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Water has a habit of wanting to make exposed iron and steel rust. Water inside the barrel can be bad if it builds up a great amount of pressure when a round is fired. It's not that huge of a deal unless it is absolutely pouring out or you drop the gun in a large puddle. Bring along a dry cloth to wipe it and make sure to keep it clean and oiled up after you're done shooting. Basically don't let water sit in it for extended periods of time.
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I'm planning on going to a gun show out that is out of state and purchasing my first pistol. Can I get my background check cleared before I go? If so, where should I get this done?
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| # ? Feb 23, 2010 22:19 |
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A dealer can do your background check over the phone at the show.
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| # ? Feb 23, 2010 22:26 |
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Cool so there wont be any complications from me being out of state? I have a clean record.
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| # ? Feb 23, 2010 22:35 |
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Are you a citizen? Make sure the gun is legal in your home state before you buy something. Don't you have to have the ffl send it to your ffl in your state first and then run the check in the home state? e: once in every couple of shows I go to the NICS system goes down so no approvals are going to happen. I once had to haul my way out to a store to pick up a pistol as it went down last day of the show and I had just stopped by in the last hour of it. king of the bongo fucked around with this message at Feb 23, 2010 around 22:42 |
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Edit: I've forgotten what I'm talking about.
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| # ? Feb 23, 2010 22:40 |
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EssentiallyZer0 posted:Cool so there wont be any complications from me being out of state? I have a clean record. Negative on that ghostrider, you cannot purchase a handgun out of state from a dealer. Full stop, do not pass go, do not collect $200. Federal law states that you must purchase a handgun from a dealer located in your state of residence (there are various exceptions, but they tend to be pretty narrow in scope...military members permanently assigned to a base not in their state of residence is the biggest one). Long guns (rifles/shotguns), knock yourself out. Handguns, not so much. The only way to purchase a handgun via this method would be for the dealer at the show to transfer the gun to a dealer located in your state of residence...this dealer would conduct the actual transaction (NICS background check, 4473 form, etc.), so legally speaking you would be buying the gun from the second dealer, not from the one at the show.
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| # ? Feb 23, 2010 22:42 |
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I should add, the above post only applies to dealers. Individual to individual sales (aka the infamous "gun show loophole" that the Brady idiots are always blathering on about) are okay, but only within the same state of residence. You can't buy a gun from a resident of another state without going through an FFL, long gun or handgun. Also, this is only the minimum of federal law. Depending on your state you may have more stringent requirements (certain guns being illegal for purchase, etc.) A big one you should look at is whether your state has a requirement to obtain a permit to purchase. Some states that are otherwise fairly gun friendly (like my former home, Nebraska) are for some reason retarded about handguns and still require a permit to purchase.
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| # ? Feb 23, 2010 22:50 |
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I have an EOTech, and even though I've read and read about it, I'm misunderstanding how it's supposed to work. Right now, I'm just trying to boresight it - I removed the bolt carrier, and am looking through the barrel, fixing to a point on the wall, and trying to adjust the EOTech to center on that so that I can hopefully get it on paper. So I'm sitting behind the upper assembly, looking through the sight, and every time I move my head, the reticule moves. But everything I read says this is supposed to happen, and that wherever the dot is pointing is where the bullet will go - but this doesn't make any sense to me. Even though I haven't moved the barrel at all, the reticule is now "pointing" at some other spot (because I moved my head) - and the red dot's new position is now where the bullet is going to go, despite how I haven't physically moved the barrel? It doesn't make any sense to me, and I'm missing something horribly obvious and stupid.  How does it work? Edit: I'm keeping both eyes open and looking at the target, not the reticule, too. Bachelor Numpad fucked around with this message at Feb 24, 2010 around 02:51 |
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Are you absolutely positive about that? It makes sense, and better safe than sorry, but I'm pretty sure that residents of Washington can come to Oregon gun shows and purchase handguns. I used to work for a big retailer at a lot of shows, and I distinctly recall the owner running WDLs over the phone. I think there is some exception in the rules for bordering states, pending approval by both states...or something.
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| # ? Feb 24, 2010 02:59 |
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Bachelor Numpad posted:I have an EOTech, and even though I've read and read about it, I'm misunderstanding how it's supposed to work. Right now, I'm just trying to boresight it - I removed the bolt carrier, and am looking through the barrel, fixing to a point on the wall, and trying to adjust the EOTech to center on that so that I can hopefully get it on paper.
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| # ? Feb 24, 2010 03:02 |
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... and that's why I should use common sense more often. 
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| # ? Feb 24, 2010 03:19 |
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walrusman posted:Are you absolutely positive about that? It makes sense, and better safe than sorry, but I'm pretty sure that residents of Washington can come to Oregon gun shows and purchase handguns. I used to work for a big retailer at a lot of shows, and I distinctly recall the owner running WDLs over the phone. I think there is some exception in the rules for bordering states, pending approval by both states...or something. Hmm...I do know that what I stated is the general federal rule. While there may be an exception for neighboring states, I'd kind of doubt it because the feds tend to be anal about stuff like that. I do know that Nebraska residents cannot purchase handguns in Iowa...this saved my wallet countless times while I was at college. Was the retailer selling only handguns? Because like I said, longgun purchases are totally fine, it's just handguns that the feds have the rule on. Any residents of Washington/Oregon have further insight into the situation?
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| # ? Feb 24, 2010 04:18 |
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EssentiallyZer0 posted:I'm planning on going to a gun show out that is out of state and purchasing my first pistol. Can I get my background check cleared before I go? If so, where should I get this done? Unless the vendor at the show is willing and able to send your pistol to a licensed dealer in your state, no you cannot buy a pistol at an out-of-state gun show. It's most likely any vendor there won't bother to help you with that.
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| # ? Feb 24, 2010 07:55 |
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I'm in CA and I'd like to learn to shoot with rifles. Obvious easy choice would be to research CA license laws and get a .22LR, but my dad has a .223 (don't know the brand) that he never uses that I could use. I'm assuming ammunition would be more expensive for the latter, but are there any other drawbacks? Should I just get the 22 and get used to things first or what?
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| # ? Feb 24, 2010 08:17 |
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I think the general consensus around here seems to be something like "If you have access to a .223, a few boxes of ammo for that will cost you less than a new .22 rifle, and that will help you decide if you like shooting enough to invest more and buy your own guns." That said, if you DO like shooting and decide to stick with it, most people will tell you that a .22 is the way to go for your first plinker. A passable .22 will run you less than $200. If you go nuts and shoot a TON of .223 in your first few months learning how to shoot, you pretty much just sent that .22 you might have bought down range. It's still not that expensive of a cartridge though, and I don't think it sounds like a bad one to start shooting with. Cost wise, it sounds like a pretty balanced decision either way. The only big plus I can see for either one is that if you buy your own .22, you own it, not your pops. (Although, I do hear rumors of fathers who don't ever use their guns giving them to their kids who express interest in shooting.)
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| # ? Feb 24, 2010 09:13 |
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Price comparison to buying a .22 of your own aside, .223 is a very mild round and should be fun to shoot, as well as easy to learn on. Take dad out to the range and give it a go. If you enjoy it, look into picking up a .22 or something of your own.
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| # ? Feb 24, 2010 10:33 |
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SadWhaleFamily posted:Unless the vendor at the show is willing and able to send your pistol to a licensed dealer in your state, no you cannot buy a pistol at an out-of-state gun show. It's most likely any vendor there won't bother to help you with that. I was researching a bit further and it seems that in the state of Alabama (where I'll be attending the gun show), a person thats from out of state can buy a pistol without having to acquire a special permit or have the gun transfered. Does anyone that has experience with buying a pistol out of state know for sure?
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| # ? Feb 25, 2010 02:40 |
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What's the idea behind scopes that use mil-dot reticules but use MOA for adjustments? If the reticule is uses mil-dots, then shouldn't the turrets also be adjustable in mils as well?
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Bachelor Numpad posted:What's the idea behind scopes that use mil-dot reticules but use MOA for adjustments? If the reticule is uses mil-dots, then shouldn't the turrets also be adjustable in mils as well? I wish scope manufacturers would wonder the same thing you are.
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| # ? Feb 25, 2010 03:25 |
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EssentiallyZer0 posted:I was researching a bit further and it seems that in the state of Alabama (where I'll be attending the gun show), a person thats from out of state can buy a pistol without having to acquire a special permit or have the gun transfered. Federal law overrides state law. You can buy all the guns you want, but you'd have to have the seller ship it to an FFL in your home state, who then could transfer it to you.
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| # ? Feb 25, 2010 03:28 |
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Maybe a Pennsylvania goon can help me out. I'm gonna grab my first gun pretty soon, a .22 rifle. I will be transporting it in my vehicle. It looks like to do that legally I'll need a License to Carry Firearms, right? How long does it typically take for a LTCF to go through, in your experiences?
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Rough Lobster posted:Maybe a Pennsylvania goon can help me out. You'll only need an LTCF to open carry the long gun, loaded, in your car, I believe. You need no license of any sort to store an unloaded rifle in your trunk. In terms of how long the LTCF process takes, it really depends on your county or sheriff. They have a 45-day limit to approve or deny your application.
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Rough Lobster posted:Maybe a Pennsylvania goon can help me out. Put the rifle in your trunk. Keep the ammo in the seat next to you. LTCF not needed, problem solved.
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| # ? Feb 25, 2010 04:18 |
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That's for the fast responses, guys, and for taking the time to help a perpetually clueless newbie.
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| # ? Feb 25, 2010 04:51 |
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I'm no expert but driving around with your ammo and gun separately is probably a good idea anyway if you should get pulled over or something stupid.
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So I got my first GUN the other day and I've been going through the manual so I can figure out how to break it down/clean it/put it back together again. My question is, how do I clean the barrel? I know I'm supposed to shove something through the chamber then out the end and such, but I get the feeling the cleaning kit I bought is meant for rifles since there's no way in hell the long rear end rods it came with will be able to get inside. Is there some sort of special thing I'm supposed to buy or should I just shove the rod through the front, attach a swab, and then pull it back out?
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Sojourn posted:So I got my first GUN the other day and I've been going through the manual so I can figure out how to break it down/clean it/put it back together again. My question is, how do I clean the barrel? I know I'm supposed to shove something through the chamber then out the end and such, but I get the feeling the cleaning kit I bought is meant for rifles since there's no way in hell the long rear end rods it came with will be able to get inside. Is there some sort of special thing I'm supposed to buy or should I just shove the rod through the front, attach a swab, and then pull it back out? Attach the solvent-soaked patch first to the cleaning rod, and then shove it through the barrel from the breech end. If the rod is too long, and it's multisectional, just use the one piece for the end. I have a rifle cleaning kit from Hoppe's, but for my pistols I just use the last piece and jag. Other tip for .22 guns: buy a boresnake. It's kind of like cheating.
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| # ? Feb 25, 2010 05:30 |
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SadWhaleFamily posted:Other tip for .22 guns: buy a boresnake. It's kind of like cheating. I'm so getting one of these  Thanks!
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| # ? Feb 25, 2010 05:56 |
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Sylink posted:I'm no expert but driving around with your ammo and gun separately is probably a good idea anyway if you should get pulled over or something stupid. "This one does not consent to a search of his vehicle, officer."
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omgLerkHat! posted:"This one does not consent to a search of his vehicle, officer." haha yep I'm going to commit a crime and then hope that my constitutional rights will protect me! bad idea champ. good rule of thumb in life - if you can avoid breaking laws, do it. being on the wrong side of the law no matter your rights is just a bad idea. this is one of those cases where discretion is the better part of valor.
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| # ? Feb 25, 2010 06:11 |
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Kommienzuspadt posted:haha yep I'm going to commit a crime and then hope that my constitutional rights will protect me! Unless I completely miss-interpreted what he was saying, I wasn't suggesting doing anything illegal. He was saying that in the event that a cop pulls you over, having gun and ammo separate was a good idea. This is true, but a better idea still is to not give consent to a search in the first place. Not consenting to a search isn't illegal last I checked.
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omgLerkHat! posted:Unless I completely miss-interpreted what he was saying, I wasn't suggesting doing anything illegal. He was saying that in the event that a cop pulls you over, having gun and ammo separate was a good idea. This is true, but a better idea still is to not give consent to a search in the first place. Not consenting to a search isn't illegal last I checked. no, it's not, but aggressively "asserting your rights" is a very good way to make a cop nervous and get more attention drawn to you than necessary. as lame as it is, it's better to be clean and have nothing to hide and expect to have your rights violated than the other way around.
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Kommienzuspadt posted:no, it's not, but aggressively "asserting your rights" is a very good way to make a cop nervous and get more attention drawn to you than necessary. I never said anything about aggressively asserting my rights. In fact my reply was mostly a Mass Effect joke. I don't break any firearms laws and don't plan to, and I wouldn't encourage others to do so. However, there is nothing illegal or wrong with politely declining a search of your vehicle in the event that you are pulled over for some traffic violation. If you're suggesting that not consenting to a search is 'aggressively asserting your rights' then I don't really know how to respond. 
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Kommienzuspadt posted:no, it's not, but aggressively "asserting your rights" is a very good way to make a cop nervous and get more attention drawn to you than necessary. Wrong wrong wrong. There is nothing suspicious with teling someone you would rather they not poke through your stuff because they feel like it. If they had a real reason too, they wouldn't ask. Them asking is a way to shortcut Miranda, 4th amendment rights, probable cause, actual cause, and legal precedent. Can you go and take photos of your house for me? Preferably with your wife / gf in the frame holding up her underwear or anything that looks sexy. Why not, it's not illegal, you have nothing to hide right? What are you trying to hide?
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Roundboy posted:Wrong wrong wrong. There is nothing suspicious with teling someone you would rather they not poke through your stuff because they feel like it. If they had a real reason too, they wouldn't ask. Them asking is a way to shortcut Miranda, 4th amendment rights, probable cause, actual cause, and legal precedent. except that you aren't walking up to a traffic stop, the statistically most dangerous task an officer can perform on duty, you're just being a creep. your analogy is pretty terrible. this isn't just "somebody" this is a cop, who has very specific duties to look for criminals. if before he even gets the chance to ask for your license and registration you sperg out about not consenting to any searches that's going to trip an alarm in his head. whether or not that translates into you going scott free or having your car impounded or spending 3 hours on the side of the freeway while the dogs sniff it over isn't really your choice. in practice your rights often don't mean dick and its' not a good idea to test how far they go in practice. that isnt to say you should roll over and let them gently caress with you, but you shouldn't give them any reason to think that they should be trying to gently caress with you either. i think all 3 of us are imagining very different scenarios so i'm not even sure how much of an argument there is here to it but i guess i'll just finish up with take a bite out of crime, kids. and don't get on the bad side of the law 
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SadWhaleFamily posted:You'll only need an LTCF to open carry the long gun, loaded, in your car, I believe. You need no license of any sort to store an unloaded rifle in your trunk.  NO NO NO. BAD ADVICE. In no circumstance may you have a long gun loaded in your vehicle in Pennsylvania. Period. Ever. (unless it is a cop car and you are a cop/ranger) LCTF or not. "Firearms" in the Commonwealth code does NOT refer to long guns, therefore a LTCF gives you NO MORE PRIVILEGES THAN NOT HAVING ONE for long guns.
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omgLerkHat! was making a joke. He wasn't literally suggesting that you state, "This one does not consent to a search of his vehicle, officer." Nobody here is talking about acting like some Open Carry advocate when you interact with police. All you have to do is politely use those key words "do not consent" when asked, even when you really do have nothing to hide.
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| # ? Feb 25, 2010 14:48 |
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Kommienzuspadt posted:except that you aren't walking up to a traffic stop, the statistically most dangerous task an officer can perform on duty, you're just being a creep. your analogy is pretty terrible. I don't want to split hairs, but until he is arresting you, preventing a crime, etc he *is* 'just somebody'. There is a common sense factor in play here: Child is missing, cops are looking in the mall or something, you get asked if you saw a kid with this description,etc. That is a bad time to 'speg' on rights. You get pulled over on the way to the range for speeding, etc. As the cop is giving you a ticket, he asks if you "mind if he just takes a look around the car". Maybe its your attitude, maybe its your pot leaf air purifier. But that is the time to say, "No, I don't want that" Granted, if the cop is betting on his experience and 'gut' being greater then your innocence, he will call a dog out, etc. But that doesn't mean its okay to just let them go to town. The bottom line is that yes, my examples may be out there, but the argument of "I have nothing to hide, so its cool to search me" is a horrible argument. Think of something *really* embarrassing, be it a photo, old dildo, whatever you goons have. Would you like someone going through that without reason?
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If you consent to a search you're a pussy.
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