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Shakra
Jul 30, 2004



To stay updated on this project you can get notifications on facebook at http://www.facebook.com/dappergentlemen
Here are all the frames in order so you know where the story is. I won't be able to update this immediately after new stuff is made, so make sure to check the last page or so of the thread as well. http://dappergentlemen.com/fathersterling/
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Don't worry if you are a TERRIBLE artist. That's not what it's about. You can draw stick figures, it really doesnt matter. It's really just all about having fun and contributing.

I have run a few goon art projects in the past:
Goon city: http://www.gooncity.com (http://forums.somethingawful.com/sh...hreadid=2929126)
SPACE, goon art book: http://ryanallen.com/2009/06/new-ar...t-off-to-print/
PARANORMAL, goon art book: http://ryanallen.com/2009/10/parano...rt-book-finito/

6 months ago myself and another goon got together and started working on some ideas on how to create a large goon art project for the iphone. We had a few different ideas we came up with, but the one we both really liked was the one I am now starting here. This project is going to be a large collaborative comic book for the iPhone.



Okay cool, a large collaborative iPhone comic book. So how does this work?
I have created the first 5 frames already. It sets up the story, and the rest will be created by you, the internet using SA members. (I'm only taking work done on SA, so don't submit stuff on facebook or the website.) Once the app reaches around 10mb (the largest file you can download from the app store without being forced to use wi-fi) it will be submitted to apple for approval, and hopefully pushed out for everyone to download. For Free. And no, we will not be putting ads into this app. The point of this project is for fun, we aren't making any money with it and no one is going to get paid. The project will keep on running and new issues will be sent out to apple once they hit 10mb.

Sounds fun, how do I contribute?
This is simple. You create a frame for the comic book (tall or wide) and submit it on the forum. I will be taking frames in the order they were submitted, so whoever posts first gets their piece into the app (probably). If you have a good idea you can just submit a quick sketch to keep the story moving along and get your piece in as a place holder. You can then spend all the time you need making your frame look its best.

I plan on running this similar to how goon city was run. I will keep the project up and running for a few months (as long as their is interest really), so don't worry if you don't have any ideas right away. You will have a lot of time to work on stuff.

Alright so how do you want my files?
640 x 960 @163 DPI (ppi) - RGB color - this is twice the size of the iphone screen so people can zoom in on stuff and have it still be clear.
You can download this template and build your frames inside of it. The .zip file below has .tif .bmp and .png files, it also has the main character in vector format that I drew, the fonts you should use and some vector speech bubbles.

http://www.dappergentlemen.com/app_template_files.zip

You can do this in mspaint, pencil, watercolor, vector work, magic marker, or whatever medium you want. A few of my first frames are ink and watercolor and another is built in illustrator. Just get your final image into the correct template size and submit it as a png, tif or bmp. (dont worry about file sizes I will convert and compress everything for the final app. I'm asking for .png .bmp or .tif because the quality will be higher. I don't want you submitting an ugly artifact riddled jpg.)

In the template is the font you will use for any text. Please keep this consistent. The font is called Laffayette Comic Pro (http://www.dafont.com/font-comment....yette_comic_pro) and keep it at 10pt. The title font for Father Sterling is Romance Fatal Serif (http://www.dafont.com/romance-fatal-serif.font) Speech should be in speech bubbles, narration should be in a box with rounded corners. Keep this consistent throughout the entire app. If you change this I'll probably complain and bitch at you, and if I can't easily change it I'll just throw it out and not include it. If your submission is lovely low quality I'm not going to put it in the app either. If you aren't sure if you are doing things right just ask. If this is as popular as goon city I will be putting hundreds more hours into building and putting it all together, and I don't really want to spend an hour fixing your fonts and other stuff you did wrong.

What restrictions are there?
Remember that Apple needs to approve the app, so please be careful with what you do. Try not to put offensive stuff in. If you want to use words like gently caress, poo poo, cock etc, remember that Apple might reject the app because of it, and we might have to edit poo poo down to appease them. I'm not saying don't use 'bad' words, just be mindful that Apple might take issue. Please don't put any racist stuff in your piece(s). I figure the app is going to need to be +17 because of violence, but please don't do any racist stuff. Don't have the main character go off to kill all the jews and surprise sex their corpses for example. It won't be easy to edit stuff if Apple demands that 2/3's of the apps story needs to be deleted because of an arc created by your piece. Apple is run by a bunch of prudes, so giant cocks and sexual themes will probably get the app a ban as well.

Try and put some effort into your work
I realize that there will probably be a bunch of 30 second mspaint pieces, and that is fine really. Just be mindful that if you submit stupid poo poo it will effect how the story runs for people down the line. Your art doesn't need to be the best, so don't worry if you don't know what you're doing. Just make sure you are at least trying.

Again, no one is getting paid, but you can get publicity!
This app (and any future father sterling releases) are going out for free. We are not putting ads into the app and no one is getting paid. We spent several months building the app because it is going to be a fun project, and not as a way to make money. We did however build in a way for you to get publicity for the work that you do. When you submit your piece, submit along with it any information you want made public. Each frame has an info panel, so people can get your name, email address, facebook page, twitter page or website from it. If you don't want any of this info to show up don't submit any of it and I'll just put your forum name in the panel for credit.

If you have any questions just ask
I think that this is going to be a lot of fun. Don't hesitate if you have any questions, I'll make sure to help answer any questions anyone has.
Below are the first 5 frames I made to get the story started. It's now up to all of you to continue it all.

Here are the first 5 frames.

1 (ink and watercolor on paper)


2 (ink and watercolor on paper)


3 (ink and watercolor on paper)


4 (ink and watercolor on paper)


5 (vector art in illustrator)

Shakra fucked around with this message at Nov 06, 2009 around 02:48

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noss
Jun 10, 2003


This looks like a lot of fun, and while I dont have an iphone, I will definitely put this on my wife's.

Shakra
Jul 30, 2004



noss posted:

This looks like a lot of fun, and while I dont have an iphone, I will definitely put this on my wife's.

Oh I forgot to mention in the book of a first post. I'll have all the images put up online so people without iphones can see them all. I'm also working with another friend to convert this to an android app as well (but that could be a while still).

Ghetto Wizard
Aug 11, 2007

Yeah - I went there

What if someone's been working on a frame for a long time and that person gets hosed over because someone did a quick frame that creates a context where the frame no longer makes any sense?

Here's mine:



your name: Ghetto Wizard
email address: gravesenlasse(at)gmail(dot)com

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EDIT: not final version though
EDIT2: Updated, but it's times like these I wish I better at creative stuff, it feels like it's missing something, but I don't know what.
EDIT3: Gave texture to the wood and rock and did some atmosphere changes and I'm happier with it now.

Ghetto Wizard fucked around with this message at Nov 04, 2009 around 03:29

 elpintogrande
Sep 03, 2000


ENEMY SUBMARINE SPOTTED
ENEMY SUBMARINE SPOTTED
ENEMY SUBMARINE SPOTTED
ENEMY SUBMARINE SPOTTED

Stuck for a week. Good luck with the endeavor.

Shakra
Jul 30, 2004



Ghetto Wizard posted:

What if someone's been working on a frame for a long time and that person gets hosed over because someone did a quick frame that creates a context where the frame no longer makes any sense?

Here's mine:



Submit a quick rough draft first to get the place, then spend a lot of time polishing it.

Shakra
Jul 30, 2004



elpintogrande posted:

Stuck for a week. Good luck with the endeavor.

Thanks a lot for the sticky.

Shakra
Jul 30, 2004



Ghetto Wizard posted:

What if someone's been working on a frame for a long time and that person gets hosed over because someone did a quick frame that creates a context where the frame no longer makes any sense?

Here's mine, but this probably won't be the final version, I'll keep working on it:



EDIT: not final version though

If you want your info to be with your images submit it too. (name, website, email, facebook, twitter, whatever).

J Schniggy
Feb 27, 2007
"You hear the dogs? They are here, lots of them!"

I know the final count is gonna come to 10 MB, but about how many images/frames does that equal?

e: ALSO - Is there a limit to the number of pages per artist? Obviously I'm not expecting to write the whole thing, but can I do more than one?

J Schniggy fucked around with this message at Nov 02, 2009 around 02:14

Shakra
Jul 30, 2004



J Schniggy posted:

I know the final count is gonna come to 10 MB, but about how many images/frames does that equal?

Probably between 80 and 100.

Dred_furst
Nov 19, 2007

"Hey look, I'm flying a giant dong"

Shakra posted:

Oh I forgot to mention in the book of a first post. I'll have all the images put up online so people without iphones can see them all. I'm also working with another friend to convert this to an android app as well (but that could be a while still).

Looking at the interface mechanics, Some nice ideas but a few issues that make it feel a bit unintuitive.

A better idea for the further information section of the image is to have a slider from the bottom that you grab the handle of and drag upwards. Think of how android's notification area works.

The thumbnails, I can see the intention, but maybe if you drag the image off the side of the screen, the next page comes on. Again like HTC's ui for the album app on android.

edit: I am a retard, I see that you already do this, maybe make the thumbnail view fullscreen after a double tap.

Also if you want some help with the android version of the phone, give me a shout, I'm learning the SDK currently (And have one to try the software out on) and I am eager to learn more about the SDK.

Shakra
Jul 30, 2004



Dred_furst posted:

Looking at the interface mechanics, Some nice ideas but a few issues that make it feel a bit unintuitive.

A better idea for the further information section of the image is to have a slider from the bottom that you grab the handle of and drag upwards. Think of how android's notification area works.

The thumbnails, I can see the intention, but maybe if you drag the image off the side of the screen, the next page comes on. Again like HTC's ui for the album app on android.

edit: I am a retard, I see that you already do this, maybe make the thumbnail view fullscreen after a double tap.

Also if you want some help with the android version of the phone, give me a shout, I'm learning the SDK currently (And have one to try the software out on) and I am eager to learn more about the SDK.

I'm not sure what you mean about the thumbnails. The app works like the picture viewer where you just swipe left or right to go to the next / previous image. The thumbnail is there in case you want to go through them all fast, like if you want to go to page 50 from 1 quickly.

cowofwar
Jul 30, 2002



Shouldn't the app itself be a one time mechanism to access new issues?

So like you submit an app that comes with the first edition but that same app can then receive subsequent edition pushes. So when you load the app it's basically like a comic viewer and shows all the comic editions you currently have on your system (just the one by default), you click on that and then it takes you to the actual comic. Seems like you'd have to deal with more grief doing it the single edition per app approach.

Otherwise, looks awesome!

Shakra
Jul 30, 2004



cowofwar posted:

Shouldn't the app itself be a one time mechanism to access new issues?

So like you submit an app that comes with the first edition but that same app can then receive subsequent edition pushes. So when you load the app it's basically like a comic viewer and shows all the comic editions you currently have on your system (just the one by default), you click on that and then it takes you to the actual comic. Seems like you'd have to deal with more grief doing it the single edition per app approach.

Otherwise, looks awesome!

Yeah we were actually working on this. The problem with this however is that all the data has to be hosted and sent out by our own servers. Apple won't handle the bandwidth for 'in app purchases', which is how it would be run. If the app is free and 100,000 people are updating a 10mb app, I'm all of a sudden having to deal with a large amazon S3 bill

J Schniggy
Feb 27, 2007
"You hear the dogs? They are here, lots of them!"


Obviously not finished, just getting my entry in.

I for one am super pumped about this and will be informing everyone who I think would be interested about it.

J Schniggy fucked around with this message at Nov 02, 2009 around 04:43

Fors Yard
Feb 15, 2008

I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore.

So, I know you are requesting consistent font use (which is fine), but are the vector narration/speech bubbles required? Or can they be any medium, as long as the follow the rounded for narration, bubbles for speech?

I prefer to use paper and ink, and I noticed your watercolor used the vector speech bubbles, so I just wanted to clarify about that.

I need to go get some non-photo pencils tomorrow!

Edit: Oh, and I know you say 'frame', but can our one image be broken up any? More like a page, or part of a page? I'm just thinking at maximum two or three larger frames within the one image we submit. More to show action, I guess. If not, that's fine.

Fors Yard fucked around with this message at Nov 02, 2009 around 06:20

HardDisk
May 06, 2009


Is there a limit for how many frames a single user can submit?

icicle bob
Mar 14, 2008

Any way you want it.


I'll definitely be partaking in this. I've got the afternoon off tomorrow, so I'll get started then, but I'll do some sketches now.

Shakra
Jul 30, 2004



Fors Yard posted:

So, I know you are requesting consistent font use (which is fine), but are the vector narration/speech bubbles required? Or can they be any medium, as long as the follow the rounded for narration, bubbles for speech?

I prefer to use paper and ink, and I noticed your watercolor used the vector speech bubbles, so I just wanted to clarify about that.

I need to go get some non-photo pencils tomorrow!

Edit: Oh, and I know you say 'frame', but can our one image be broken up any? More like a page, or part of a page? I'm just thinking at maximum two or three larger frames within the one image we submit. More to show action, I guess. If not, that's fine.

No the speech bubbles can look different, I just supplied the ones in that template in case you didn't want to make your own.

You can be creative and do whatever you want in each frame, it doesn't have to just be 1 image in there.

HardDisk posted:

Is there a limit for how many frames a single user can submit?

Go nuts, make as many as you want.

Atoramos
Aug 31, 2003

Jim's now a Blind Cave Salamander!

Slowly attempting to make a kickass picture of a 'Churchzooka'.

Hungry Bit
Sep 17, 2007


Atoramos posted:

Slowly attempting to make a kickass picture of a 'Churchzooka'.

Aww shucks, I was just going to start on a a panel unveiling his deadly Super Squirt™ water pistol.

Father Sterling may not be the brightest assassin, but he's still the best

Shakra
Jul 30, 2004



Hungry Bit posted:

Aww shucks, I was just going to start on a a panel unveiling his deadly Super Squirt™ water pistol.

Father Sterling may not be the brightest assassin, but he's still the best
Go for it, he really should have an entire arsenal at his disposal.

Atoramos
Aug 31, 2003

Jim's now a Blind Cave Salamander!

Hungry Bit posted:

Aww shucks, I was just going to start on a a panel unveiling his deadly Super Squirt™ water pistol.

Father Sterling may not be the brightest assassin, but he's still the best

Yea, I didn't intend my post to be calling his weaponry, but I think it would be hilarious if the next frame does, in fact, name his weapon something ridiculous, which is why 'Churchzooka' came to mind.

Also your Super Squirt pistol must shoot Holy Water.

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007
If my stomach problems were all psychologically-based, well, I'd have nothing to worry about!

I pretty much know the answer, but I figure I'd ask anyway... there isn't a need for audio here, is there?

That's all I do...

Cool app, though!

Amandyke
Nov 27, 2004

A wha?

Any chance of getting a Pre port for this for all of us on Sprint/haven't sold our souls to Apple?

Shakra
Jul 30, 2004



Amandyke posted:

Any chance of getting a Pre port for this for all of us on Sprint/haven't sold our souls to Apple?

If someone knows how to / wants to do it I'll supply them with all my files. I don't know anyone who is working on stuff for webos. Again though I'll have the files all up online so you can go through it all on the web, for everyone sans iphone.

Atoramos
Aug 31, 2003

Jim's now a Blind Cave Salamander!



How's that?

Also as far as name goes, I'm fine with Atoramos.

Atoramos fucked around with this message at Nov 02, 2009 around 16:55

Shakra
Jul 30, 2004



Atoramos posted:



How's that?

Also as far as name goes, I'm fine with Atoramos.

This image makes me want to skip out of work early to go home and play borderlands.

HardDisk
May 06, 2009


Goddamm (sorry Father!), is there a way to preview images? I think the text on mine came out looking lovely (and small, on 10 pt), even thought it is as said on the specifications (though it is lacking anti-alias instructions).


Or I could upload the Fireworks CS3 png and you could tweak it? I dunno.


Almost Edit: Ah, gently caress, beaten, frame now made useless. I'll treasure it anyway, it was fun.

orange lime
Jul 24, 2008

Comrade! My car satisfies all of the people's needs.
I will tell you what to drive. It is in the people's interest.


Shakra posted:

Oh I forgot to mention in the book of a first post. I'll have all the images put up online so people without iphones can see them all. I'm also working with another friend to convert this to an android app as well (but that could be a while still).

The Android Market doesn't have an approval process, so you could always have the clean Apple version and the uncensored Android version full of dick butts.

fineX
Jan 17, 2008

Who let the dogs out?
Yip! Yip! Yip! Yip!


Atoramos posted:



How's that?

Also as far as name goes, I'm fine with Atoramos.

The previous panel claimed he never named it

Shakra
Jul 30, 2004



fineX posted:

The previous panel claimed he never named it

Oh no 3 frames in and the continuity is ruined.

Atoramos
Aug 31, 2003

Jim's now a Blind Cave Salamander!

Atoramos posted:

Yea, I didn't intend my post to be calling his weaponry, but I think it would be hilarious if the next frame does, in fact, name his weapon something ridiculous, which is why 'Churchzooka' came to mind.

Naming the unnamed weapon something ridiculous was the joke.

fineX
Jan 17, 2008

Who let the dogs out?
Yip! Yip! Yip! Yip!


Atoramos posted:

Naming the unnamed weapon something ridiculous was the joke.

Ah, my bad, I completely missed your post.

Hungry Bit
Sep 17, 2007


Shakra posted:

Oh no 3 frames in and the continuity is ruined.

This must be a new record.

Edit: I reading thread gud

Hungry Bit fucked around with this message at Nov 02, 2009 around 20:37

mrfart
May 26, 2004

moohahow




obviously rushed.
I'll color/improve it if you want it.

Shakra
Jul 30, 2004



mrfart posted:




obviously rushed.
I'll color/improve it if you want it.

haha, I love the bunny on the front.
Just re-save it in the larger size if you can.

Aztejang
Sep 16, 2007

Ape Lincoln



Incredibly rushed, cleanup/coloring will commence upon acceptance of submission. I just thought it'd be fun to delve a bit into his past before we get to the mission

E: those are clouds. Also, are we limited to one submission per user?

E2: added a word I had omitted

Aztejang fucked around with this message at Nov 02, 2009 around 23:18

Ensign Expendable
Nov 11, 2008


fineX posted:

The previous panel claimed he never named it

Maybe it can say "he should have named it Churchzooka". Or that it named itself. Or something.

These are hilarious.

HardDisk
May 06, 2009


Shakra, may I submit the panel I did for a sequence earlier, but it doesn't go with the main plot, so it's like fan-art or something?

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