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West007
Apr 21, 2013

Break me down to pieces
Put me back, do it right this time


The main issues (scroll wheel, double clicking) happened just a few weeks ago.

Here in Europe it might be problematic to work directly with Razer, I have to take it to the shop I bought it in.

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HalloKitty
Sep 30, 2005

less faggotry, more rs4.

West007 posted:

I prefer to buy a bit more expensive mice, not 100€ but around 50-60€.

I've had 2 Razer copperhead mice for combined ~6 years, I broke the first one and I had the scroll wheel stop working on the other one.

Now I have a Razer Imperator 2012 since July 2012. I've had nothing but problems with this mouse. It is really comfortable to use and I love the precision but the technical side is just horrendous.
Firstly, after 2 months it just stopped working, the computer didn't recognize it, tried other computers as well. It fixed itself after a week and gets recognized just fine now.
Secondly, the scroll wheel feels loose, when I scroll down it scrolls up a bit and then down normally (and vice versa), even scrolls to the opposite direction a bit while I'm scrolling.
And now it has the double clicking problem which infuriates me to no end. Oh, and I have to plug it out at night because the light is on even after the PC shuts down.

I do have the receipt and it still has warranty. Should I just take it back and get it fixed/exchanged? I'm afraid they will just spout the usual "mechanical damage, your fault" crap and I will have just wasted my time.

For what it's worth, my girlfriend has an Imperator, she loved the shape and size and so on, but now it is just unreliable garbage, with the buttons not working properly. She had poor experience with Razer, having a Lycosa keyboard which had the awful capacitive touch section which always caused random things to occur. It was replaced, but only by the retailer, and took ages. Then it had exactly the same problem. I opened the loving thing and tore the connector off the board for it.

She bought a Roccat Kone Pure, which is a very similar size and layout, just in case you were looking at similar sized mice. Says it's excellent.

Edit:
Bonus AnandTech link: http://www.anandtech.com/show/6802/...ure-gaming-mice
Extra bonus picture she took of both mice to compare the size/layout. She prefers to grip with pinky and thumb, not by using the palm.

HalloKitty fucked around with this message at May 15, 2013 around 12:04

chippy
Aug 16, 2006

OK I DON'T GET IT

HalloKitty posted:

capacitive touch section which always caused random things to occur.

Like an infinite improbability drive?

duckfarts
Jul 2, 2010

Ask me about Alpha Protocol



Man, I kinda wish Microsoft still made gaming mice; their hardware division is pretty solid and their warranty service is loving ridiculous. (the good kind)

HalloKitty
Sep 30, 2005

less faggotry, more rs4.

chippy posted:

Like an infinite improbability drive?

If only it was that fascinating!

In reality, it sometimes required unplugging and replugging, changed volume, opened up media player, etc.

West007
Apr 21, 2013

Break me down to pieces
Put me back, do it right this time



I've had a Roccat Arvo keyboard for ~3 years now, haven't had a single problem with it, Roccat does seem reliable, might try their mouse.

OneThousandMonkeys
Oct 9, 2005

The Strangest Vengeance Ever Planned

I have had the Logitech Performance mX for a bit now.

http://www.logitech.com/en-us/produ...rmance-mouse-mx

This was part of my big plan to have a completely wireless computer experience. I took a big risk, thinking that I would probably end up hating and being disappointed by having to recharge the mouse periodically. But I only have to do that once every 2-3 days at most after heavy use, it seems to take less than an hour, and "charging" it means it's just a wired mouse for that while.

The mouse itself is really good. It alternates between a free scroll wheel and click wheel (I hate free scroll). The mouse not only works on any surface, but I can do things like use it on the seat of my couch without noticing problems. I haven't had any problems gaming with it.

It now goes for about $70 on Amazon.

Kerpal
Jul 20, 2003

Well that's weird.

I'll never use a Razer mouse. I picked up the Deathadder from Fry's and discovered that you need to sign up for an account and aggree Razer's privacy policy just so you can adjust your mouse settings. This is completely absurd, especially after $70 on something that's made mostly out of plastic. Why the hell anyone would need to backup their mouse settings to the cloud is beyond me.

I ended up using this cheap E-blue Cobra mouse found on Amazon that works great, feels good and well priced at 12 bucks. Makes me really wonder where the hell my $70 for the Deathadder...

TheQat
Oct 19, 2003



Mouse settings on a server is extremely useful for net cafes and tournament settings

duckfarts
Jul 2, 2010

Ask me about Alpha Protocol



TheQat posted:

Mouse settings on a server is extremely useful for net cafes and tournament settings
Alternatively, I'd prefer mouse settings on your mouse.

Betjeman
Jul 14, 2004

Biker, Biker, Biker GROOVE!


Etrips posted:

Razer makes you do a few things to test out, but they are generally good about sending replacements. Not Logitech good, but I don't have any complaints with them. Although I do think you have to send yours back in first. Can't remember.

Razer in the UK at least were nothing but terrible, I had the mouse not recognised issue as in the original post and they told me to get another computer because it worked fine on something else.

Kerpal
Jul 20, 2003

Well that's weird.

TheQat posted:

Mouse settings on a server is extremely useful for net cafes and tournament settings

You're telling me people bring their own mice to net cafes and tournaments? I still think it's dumb to require an internet connection and the creation of an account to modify settings for peripheral device. It's too much.

Etrips
Nov 8, 2004



Kerpal posted:

You're telling me people bring their own mice to net cafes and tournaments?

Yes.

TheQat
Oct 19, 2003



Kerpal posted:

You're telling me people bring their own mice to net cafes and tournaments? I still think it's dumb to require an internet connection and the creation of an account to modify settings for peripheral device. It's too much.

Well particularly at tournaments where money is at stake, people want to play with the settings and hardware they're most comfortable with--same way people at fighting game tournaments bring their own controller/stick. At a net cafe it could be the same reason and/or paranoia about germs. Much of Razer's marketing is geared toward that kind of competitive gaming market, and they also sponsor several competitive gaming teams that they provide with mice/keyboards/headsets, so universally available personal settings are pretty pertinent to their customers.

Storing the settings in the device is another option, but it seems to have fallen by the wayside for some reason. I had a Steelseries with that option. It was nice but it's also somewhat important to have visual confirmation that the correct settings are in place, which is something that so far only software can really provide.

PRADA SLUT
Mar 14, 2006

Fierce. Fabulous. Fearless.

Everybody wants this. Everybody wants to be us.

Which wireless mouse is closest to the Logitech MX518 / G500?

Ragingsheep
Nov 7, 2009


PRADA SLUT posted:

Which wireless mouse is closest to the Logitech MX518 / G500?

Probably the G700

signalnoise
Mar 7, 2008

i'm your lady machine
cybernetic supreme
sweet as peaches and cream
i'm your lady machine


Is there another mouse with a ridiculously far thumb button distance from palm like the RAT is capable of? Just wanna be aware of my options

PRADA SLUT
Mar 14, 2006

Fierce. Fabulous. Fearless.

Everybody wants this. Everybody wants to be us.

Ragingsheep posted:

Probably the G700

Is that a clicky or smooth scroll wheel?

Martytoof
Feb 25, 2003



Awesome.

Awesome to
the MAX.



PRADA SLUT posted:

Is that a clicky or smooth scroll wheel?

It has both, switched by clutch.

berzerker
Aug 18, 2004
"If I could not go to heaven but with a party, I would not go there at all."

OneThousandMonkeys posted:

I have had the Logitech Performance mX for a bit now.

http://www.logitech.com/en-us/produ...rmance-mouse-mx

This was part of my big plan to have a completely wireless computer experience. I took a big risk, thinking that I would probably end up hating and being disappointed by having to recharge the mouse periodically. But I only have to do that once every 2-3 days at most after heavy use, it seems to take less than an hour, and "charging" it means it's just a wired mouse for that while.

The mouse itself is really good. It alternates between a free scroll wheel and click wheel (I hate free scroll). The mouse not only works on any surface, but I can do things like use it on the seat of my couch without noticing problems. I haven't had any problems gaming with it.

It now goes for about $70 on Amazon.

I'm on my third of these, but not because I buy new ones. Each of the others had to be replaced, the first because the spring under the left button lost resistance and started sending double-clicks instead of single, then the second mouse just started acting erratic. Logitech replaced them easily enough, to their credit, but it has durability issues.

Now it's doing this weird thing where it won't highlight text in Word (but just Word) for some reason. Ugh.

Vidaeus
Jan 27, 2007

Cats are gonna cat.


berzerker posted:

I'm on my third of these, but not because I buy new ones. Each of the others had to be replaced, the first because the spring under the left button lost resistance and started sending double-clicks instead of single, then the second mouse just started acting erratic. Logitech replaced them easily enough, to their credit, but it has durability issues.

Now it's doing this weird thing where it won't highlight text in Word (but just Word) for some reason. Ugh.

I am getting pretty frustrated with this now. This is my fourth Logitech mouse that has died due to the left click sending double/triple/quintuple clicks all the time. The first two I didn't bother with warranty as I didn't know it was 3 years. The third one however I did get warranty on. However they hosed it up, the address they gave me to send it to was incorrect, so I had it sent back to me after like 2 weeks. Tried to get them to sort this issue out. Took around another month or so before they sent me the correct address, then I said gently caress this, I already paid for shipping once and it was to the wrong loving place due to them loving up. After another 2 or 3 weeks they sent me another mouse. It is loving dying again after like 6 months.

This is for Logitech Australia. The last 2 mice were Logitech Performance MX's. Can't remember the two before but they were pretty similar. Older models of the same type of things.

I am not going to buy another logitech mouse again. Been hosed around too much. Are there any other mice out there that have that hyperscroll function, as that is pretty much the only reason I keep buying the logitech's, it is really cool.

I don't mind spending $100, priorities are: hyperscroll, wireless, 2 thumb buttons as well as back/forward, comfort, build quality. I game a bit, but don't really care for all the super l33t LEDs, adjustable DPI, 1000GHz polling rate poo poo.

Lanky Coconut Tree
Apr 7, 2011

An angry tree.

The angriest tree


Does the RAT 7 still have those horrible tracking issues?

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The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007


Vidaeus, Australian retailers have a legal obligation to provide you with a refund or replacement if a product doesn't last a reasonable amount of time, there is no reason to deal directly with Logitech. The retailer should also be paying any shipping expenses you incur.

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