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Fusion Restaurant posted:What is a good FPS gaming mouse for someone with really large hands? Ideally I'd like a wired mouse with switches like the FK1+, the FK1+ is just too narrow for me to hold comfortably, even with claw grip. I've never been able to palm grip any mouse. I've been using the Sensei, and it's not bad, but still is a bit uncomfortable to hold for long periods, and way too short to ever not claw grip. Watch this guys reviews on mice. He has the best out, and goes into everything you actually need to know including hand size and in game tests. http://www.rocketjumpninja.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMxPhAusHJQ RBX fucked around with this message at 13:17 on Sep 23, 2016 |
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I need a new mouse, looking for recommendations. I've been using a 5-ish year old Logitech Performance MX, or whatever its precursor was called. Laser, wireless, AA batteries. Looks like this but has a rocker switch to the left of the index finger button for dpi adjustment that I've never used. It has worked really well for years, but at this point both top buttons double click, the battery contacts are loose and cut out all the time (I've bent them to make better contact, but it's still getting really flaky), and it's just getting old-looking, rubber surfaces starting to break down etc. I am almost 100% on a mac these days and prefer wireless, so a good bluetooth implementation would be ideal to free up a USB port. I have AA rechargeable batteries pretty much always sitting in a charger and don't mind swapping batteries every once in a while. I think I'd prefer that to having to plug in a mouse to recharge, but that's not a deal-breaker. I get a month or two of typical use out of Eneloop AAs with my current mouse. I game a little, but probably not enough to get a specialized gaming mouse. I looked at the MX Master, but the side scroll wheel and over-under thumb buttons look kind of ridiculous. I don't think I'd really use the second scroller, and I use the thumb buttons all the time. I've really gotten used to the tall curved MX form factor, though. Does the MX Master suck? Is there something else that's good?
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Sep 24, 2016 04:01
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ufarn posted:Logitech support is absolute poo poo now. It was indeed one of the best at one point, but now they're absolutely one of my worst customer experiences. +1 Just following up on my last posting, after 5 weeks they sent me a boilerplate email stating that my mouse is defective. They also stated in no uncertain terms that replacement will be handled by the retailer. logitech google translated from german posted:A device replacement is performed at Logitech within the two-year dealer warranty by the retailer where it was purchased. Since Logitech ships only to wholesalers and not directly to retailers, the service performance of the dealer is not in our control. Discuss with him if a replacement unit is available for the period or if he can offer a similar solution. Aka "take a hike". I used to specifically buy Logitech hardware to avoid annoyances like this. I now have a Zowie EC2-A and like it a lot. Very reminiscent of the old Intellimouse Explorer. No extra buttons, no 1GB driver software required, no colored lighting, just a simple mouse that does its job well. I don't game enough to comment on things like accuracy and response time. Build quality could be a bit better considering the price.
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Sep 24, 2016 08:51
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hamsystem posted:I actually just bought a scimitar to replace a naga. It's bigger than the naga for sure, but the keypad can be moved forward or backward roughly an inch so it was pretty easy to find a comfortable spot for it. The biggest plus and the thing that made me buy it was the buttons themselves. They're mechanical and I find them much nicer to press vs. the naga. They also make a satisfying click. Build quality seems really nice. The only beef I've had with it so far is that the numpad keys aren't mapped out of the box and you have to go to the corsair website to get the software. Other than that I really love it so far. How's the overall shape of the Scimitar compared to the G600?
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Sep 24, 2016 09:40
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Green Gloves posted:I did a search on Reddit and people who ordered on Logitechs website said that theirs had shipped a few days ago. Logitech seems to use Digital River for their distribution which, uh, doesn't have a good reputation.
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Sep 25, 2016 05:03
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Argas posted:How's the overall shape of the Scimitar compared to the G600? No idea, I've never had one and they didn't have any on display when I got the scimitar.
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Sep 25, 2016 05:55
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Megalixir posted:From late 2009 to mid 2015 I went through 4 deathadders. there's no reason to buy their stuff now that Zowie exists. My 4th just died today. 4 in 6 years. (1) double left click, (2) wheel stopped clicking + double left click, (3) wheel stopped clicking + not scrolling (4) wheel stopped clicking. Purchase dates = 24 November 2010, 13 August 2011, 13 February 2014, 08 March 2015 scroll wheel assembly partially salvaged from (2) and (3) but they died quickly. I have a drawer with all of them stuffed in for spares. Its a deathadder graveyard. Guess its back to ambidextrous now (left handed).
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Sep 25, 2016 18:14
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I'm particularly excited for the G403 to drop because it's basically Logitech's crack at the Zowie EC1/2A except without the shaky huano switches. So if you've liked Deathadders but can't tolerate their poor build quality, check it out because the EC1 and DA were always really similar in shape and feel if you don't have small hands.
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Sep 25, 2016 19:29
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Dear Goo: I reinstalled windows today, and in the course of that, I installed the latest version of the Logitech gaming software (a much newer version than I was previously using). Now, I'll admit that I was multitasking, and just clicking next without really paying attention during the install process, but when it was done, I discovered software called 'overwolf' installed on my PC, and I just wanted to say how unbelievably scummy it is for an installer to install totally unrelated software on an opt out, rather than opt in basis, and I expect considerably better from a major, reputable company like Logitech.
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Sep 26, 2016 08:37
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The Lord Bude posted:Dear Goo: I loving hate gaming overlays and view them as the browser toolbars of gaming software. Every loving gaming related company is pushing their own flavor of low-bid bought-out poorly optimized screen-capture/social media/chat/recording app and they're not going to be happy until we have UI's that look like 2006 WoW UI's.  Also I'm gonna laugh my tits off when any of them get Microsoft'd and sued in the EU for pushing this poo poo. Apparently you can't even OPT OUT of installing Overwolf; you have to uninstall the crapware after. Wasabi the J fucked around with this message at 09:09 on Sep 26, 2016 |
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Sep 26, 2016 09:06
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Wasabi the J posted:Apparently you can't even OPT OUT of installing Overwolf; you have to uninstall the crapware after. Yeah that's not good.
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Sep 26, 2016 09:49
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poo poo like this is the sort of thing that would make me actively consider not buying a logitech mouse in the future, on general principle, even if their mice are the best products on the market hardware wise (which I genuinely believe they are, at least at the moment)
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Sep 26, 2016 10:13
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can anyone recommend one of those xl mousepads? I'd prefer black with no logos and fairly smooth, probably 90cm x 40cm or so. I'm in the UK.
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Sep 26, 2016 15:58
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well why not posted:can anyone recommend one of those xl mousepads? I'd prefer black with no logos and fairly smooth, probably 90cm x 40cm or so. I'm in the UK. Just get a playing card mat
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Sep 26, 2016 16:44
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well why not posted:can anyone recommend one of those xl mousepads? I'd prefer black with no logos and fairly smooth, probably 90cm x 40cm or so. I'm in the UK. Or you can spend nearly forty bucks (or eurodollars ??) for a custom thing: http://www.inkedgaming.com/products/panoramic-desk-pad-36-x-11 Nevermind, found a blank one, but good luck if the thing actually comes to you without a logo somewhere: https://amzn.com/B014OOWMHQ
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Sep 26, 2016 17:26
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Lungboy posted:Yeah that's not good. Yeah that's pretty poo poo. Apparently it just auto-installs if it you try to update your gaming software, doesn't even prompt you if you want it or not. The actual installer supposed has an opt-out but that's still really scummy.
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Sep 26, 2016 17:46
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The Lord Bude posted:poo poo like this is the sort of thing that would make me actively consider not buying a logitech mouse in the future, on general principle, even if their mice are the best products on the market hardware wise (which I genuinely believe they are, at least at the moment) I've always bought Logitech but I'm actively seeking a viable replacement wireless mouse that's half decent. Razor has a couple wireless options but they're insanely expensive. Unfortunately my MCSE barely holds a charge anymore so the day where I have to find a new mouse is coming
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Sep 26, 2016 19:11
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My Logitech gaming pro shipped from Newegg today. Excited to try it out.
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Sep 26, 2016 20:19
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well why not posted:can anyone recommend one of those xl mousepads? I'd prefer black with no logos and fairly smooth, probably 90cm x 40cm or so. I'm in the UK. Akasa Venom XXL 890 x 450 x 3mm Mionix Alioth XL 90cm x 40cm x 0.3cm
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Sep 26, 2016 20:55
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The Overwolf dialog in the installer is not well designed and will be fixed in a future revision. Sorry for the poor experience. This is not what we want to do. Many people find it valuable, but we absolutely do not want to force it on people. The Lord Bude posted:Dear Goo: Wasabi the J posted:I loving hate gaming overlays and view them as the browser toolbars of gaming software. Lungboy posted:Yeah that's not good. The Lord Bude posted:poo poo like this is the sort of thing that would make me actively consider not buying a logitech mouse in the future, on general principle, even if their mice are the best products on the market hardware wise (which I genuinely believe they are, at least at the moment) Gwyrgyn Blood posted:Yeah that's pretty poo poo. Apparently it just auto-installs if it you try to update your gaming software, doesn't even prompt you if you want it or not. The actual installer supposed has an opt-out but that's still really scummy.
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Sep 26, 2016 22:15
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Wasabi the J posted:
I got this one about 6 months ago now. No logos and pretty good quality. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0199GE7RC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s02?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Sep 26, 2016 22:20
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Goo posted:The Overwolf dialog in the installer is not well designed and will be fixed in a future revision. Sorry for the poor experience. This is not what we want to do. Many people find it valuable, but we absolutely do not want to force it on people. Users are reporting they can't click it; sorry Goo I actually am not bitching about your instance specifically -- I was only venting my frustrations for "default on" installs of stuff we didn't want. Like I know you're not the marketing team or the software team. It's just a holy crap annoying thing that a LOT of software branches are doing.
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I don't see anyone in there saying they can't click it - just that it looks like it's unclickable because of the color choice. Again, it's a poor design, our software team is aware, and it will be fixed in the future. However, if it is actually unclickable or there's a way to install that it's unskippable that's absolutely unacceptable. I'd be happy (though irritated that it's happening) to forward such cases to our software team.
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Sep 26, 2016 23:52
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Goo posted:I don't see anyone in there saying they can't click it - just that it looks like it's unclickable. Again, it's a poor design, our software team is aware, and it will be fixed in the future. However, if it is actually unclickable or there's a way to install that it's unskippable that's absolutely unacceptable. I'd be happy (though irritated that it's happening) to forward such cases to our software team. So it's just deceptive. 
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Sep 27, 2016 00:01
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It's a poor design, our software team is aware, and it will be fixed in a future version.
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Sep 27, 2016 00:10
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right click uninstall
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Sep 27, 2016 00:21
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Goo posted:I don't see anyone in there saying they can't click it - just that it looks like it's unclickable because of the color choice. Again, it's a poor design, our software team is aware, and it will be fixed in the future. However, if it is actually unclickable or there's a way to install that it's unskippable that's absolutely unacceptable. I'd be happy (though irritated that it's happening) to forward such cases to our software team. sorry i misread it. it's greyed out and looks unclickable. It still sucks. Thank you for being responsive man. I'm not gonna hate on you like you did it to me.
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Sep 27, 2016 00:32
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How silly would it be for me to buy an MMO mouse with all the buttons?
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Sep 27, 2016 00:52
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PerrineClostermann posted:How silly would it be for me to buy an MMO mouse with all the buttons? If you play a lot of MMOs I think you definitely should. Sure they look stupid, but imo they make a world of difference. The one big downside is that once you acclimate to using one it's difficult to go back. If you're unsure try a cheaper option like a Red Dragon Perdition to see if you like it.
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Well, the thing is I don't. But Arma uses all the keybindings. And I'm tired of trying to find a mouse that has side buttons far enough back for me to use easily. I figure at least two of the buttons on an MMO mouse ought to be reachable...
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Goo posted:The Overwolf dialog in the installer is not well designed and will be fixed in a future revision. Sorry for the poor experience. This is not what we want to do. Many people find it valuable, but we absolutely do not want to force it on people. Thanks for the response. To clarify my position - even if the dialogue is redesigned, it's unacceptable for the default result for a user who blindly clicks next to be 'overwolf gets installed'. Only crapware does that. Someone who wants to install overwolf should have to explicitly tick a box to make it happen, and the installer should make it clear that overwolf is seperate software unrelated to the Logitech gaming software. The Lord Bude fucked around with this message at 03:32 on Sep 27, 2016 |
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The Lord Bude posted:Thanks for the response. I agree, and I have been told that the next version will.
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PerrineClostermann posted:Well, the thing is I don't. But Arma uses all the keybindings. And I'm tired of trying to find a mouse that has side buttons far enough back for me to use easily. I figure at least two of the buttons on an MMO mouse ought to be reachable... I still miss my G600/Razer Naga at times for games with lots of keybinds; you really do get used to having so many around.
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Wasabi the J posted:I still miss my G600/Razer Naga at times for games with lots of keybinds; you really do get used to having so many around. Yeah, I love my g602, I think 6 buttons are more than enough for me. Its compact, the battery lasts a long time, but I think its taken a few to many hits and seems to snap out of the profile Im using at the time back into the default one and screws me sometimes. I dont know if its the mouse or just logitechs software loving up.
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Goo I know you're bound by your employment to phrase things the way your employer requires you to but we know you're more than smart enough to understand that the gray box isn't a "poor design choice," it's deliberately deceptive and Logitech knew drat well that it was deliberately deceptive when they added that shitware to the installer.
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Sep 28, 2016 15:08
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I've never saved a post before but that's the nerdiest example of rude I've ever seen. I'll call this scrapbook "Disconnected Nerds"
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Sep 28, 2016 16:42
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This is what the new dialog will look like. If everything goes well it should go live in the next few days.
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Sep 28, 2016 19:46
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I was finding it impossible to choose between the G Pro mouse and the G403, so my trusty G9 decided by dying, forcing me to buy the G403 as the Pro isn't available yet. Thanks for all the fun, G9!
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The latest version of Logitech's Gaming Software is missing another key feature that used to be present: It's no longer possible to manually select the installation language. My system is set to English, but Gaming Software still insists on displaying in the local language. Very annoying.
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quote:angry ranting FFS, chill. It is being changed. You know I could be doing the same thing you're doing demanding answers as to why Logitech decided they were going to make the G400 and G400s with some planned obsolesence into it, but you should be able to tell by Goo's answers that there is a line of "I have to be a professional face of my company" and not "we are shooting the poo poo over beers and yeah, I'll go and yell at the programmers to unfuck their poo poo when I get in on Monday."
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