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Like many states, Mississippi has adopted an "Abstinence Only" form of sex education. However, being Mississippi, they decided to hold a rally to actually celebrate the fact that they are a backwards state to the point where Texas is looking advanced and liberal by comparison.The huffingtom post posted:
It amazes me that people are still supporting Abstinence Only "education" when it has so clearly failed. Mississippi has the highest teen pregnancy rate of any state, and the highest rate of out-of-wedlock births. If abstinence only education worked, this would not be the case. The thing that really bugged me, however, is the fact that most of the presenters at the conference were Christian ministers who didn't so much talk about sexuality then about the fact that Jesus hates screwing before marriage. And this rally was paid for by government funds. Clearly this is a violation of the first amendment. Really, isn't getting a bunch of young teenage girls dressed in cheerleader outfits and pointing to their crotches in front of a bunch of young teenage boys really going to help the Abstinence Only cause? I'm glad I teach in California, where we don't have this "no-no square" nonsense in our curriculum. We can talk about condoms and stuff like that.
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| # ? Nov 02, 2009 21:31 |
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| # ? Nov 22, 2009 10:52 |
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So as long as I keep it above the waist, it's cool?
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| # ? Nov 02, 2009 21:35 |
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genesplicer posted:Mississippi has the highest teen pregnancy rate of any state, and the highest rate of out-of-wedlock births. If abstinence only education worked, this would not be the case. Welp, looks like they ain't abstainin' hard enough, guess we need to increase the funding for abstinence only education!
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| # ? Nov 02, 2009 21:36 |
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They didn't even use this sort of little kid talk when I was taught about stranger danger in pre-k, IN Texas.
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| # ? Nov 02, 2009 21:36 |
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It's like anything you tell people they can't have, like candy and alcohol. Emphasis is put on it as being "bad", it's hidden or restricted, and therefore becomes something people overindulge in as opposed to doing/using responsibly. And then bad consequences happen and candy/alcohol/sex is still somehow the bad thing.  Just teach people responsibility!!
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| # ? Nov 02, 2009 21:37 |
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This chant has made it to Eastern Tennessee and has actually caught on. I hate it so much.
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| # ? Nov 02, 2009 21:38 |
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Yargh posted:It's like anything you tell people they can't have, like candy and alcohol. Emphasis is put on it as being "bad", it's hidden or restricted, and therefore becomes something people overindulge in as opposed to doing/using responsibly. And then bad consequences happen. Also they don't know what the gently caress STDs/condoms/birth control are. That's another reason.
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nucleicmaxid posted:Also they don't know what the gently caress STDs/condoms/birth control are. That's another reason. Goes along with not teaching responsibility. Sigh.
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Millard Fillmore posted:This chant has made it to Eastern Tennessee and has actually caught on. I hate it so much. Every time I hear poo poo like this, part of me dies and moves to Oregon. Or Vermont.
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Yargh posted:It's like anything you tell people they can't have, like candy and alcohol. Emphasis is put on it as being "bad", it's hidden or restricted, and therefore becomes something people overindulge in as opposed to doing/using responsibly. And then bad consequences happen and candy/alcohol/sex is still somehow the bad thing. It's possible to "overindulge" in sex?
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| # ? Nov 02, 2009 21:40 |
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Unfortunately the whole "abstinence only" policy goes far past the school in most Southern states. Most of the rural communities treat teenage pregnancy as something that only happens to whores, white trash, blacks, and non-Christians. Thus in the minds of many people who determine policy, it is okay to teach only abstinence because the good Christian folk will benefit while the godless get whats coming to them. I wish I was joking, but this was the core of the reasoning given for why this policy existed at my my high school in Alabama. It isn't a policy problem really, it's a cultural problem that seeps into political policy.
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| # ? Nov 02, 2009 21:41 |
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genesplicer posted:It amazes me that people are still supporting Abstinence Only "education" when it has so clearly failed. Mississippi has the highest teen pregnancy rate of any state, and the highest rate of out-of-wedlock births.
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| # ? Nov 02, 2009 21:42 |
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Holy poo poo even the Puritans condoned heavy petting 
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| # ? Nov 02, 2009 21:42 |
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Yargh posted:It's like anything you tell people they can't have, like candy and alcohol. Emphasis is put on it as being "bad", it's hidden or restricted, and therefore becomes something people overindulge in as opposed to doing/using responsibly. And then bad consequences happen and candy/alcohol/sex is still somehow the bad thing. Plus it an really mess with people's ideas about sexuality, that it's shameful and wrong and all that.
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Yargh posted:It's like anything you tell people they can't have, like candy and alcohol. No, not really. Sex is going to be desired by teenagers no matter what you say about it.
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Casimir Radon posted:And it finds time to be the poorest, dumbest, fattest state as well. You'll have to excuse the ignorance of a poor foreigner, but Mississippi is one of those states that is traditionally heavily Democrat, right? 
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TheSleeper posted:It's possible to "overindulge" in sex? Yes, of course, like any other fun activity/vice.
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| # ? Nov 02, 2009 21:47 |
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M_E_G. ADI. K posted:You'll have to excuse the ignorance of a poor foreigner, but Mississippi is one of those states that is traditionally heavily Democrat, right? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:R..._blue_state.svg
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TheSleeper posted:It's possible to "overindulge" in sex?
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| # ? Nov 02, 2009 21:48 |
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TheSleeper posted:It's possible to "overindulge" in sex? Uh yes? Thenipwax posted:No, not really. Sex is going to be desired by teenagers no matter what you say about it. I was getting more along the lines of "people want it, and in proper practice it's fine, but telling people 'no' or not letting them know the risks results in some pretty bad things." Except instead of diabetes or alcohol poisoning, it's babies and STDs. But yeah, teens and any human in general wanna get it on, and stuff. M_E_G. ADI. K posted:You'll have to excuse the ignorance of a poor foreigner, but Mississippi is one of those states that is traditionally heavily Democrat, right? No, try again, it's the poorest, dumbest, fattest state, so not Dem.
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| # ? Nov 02, 2009 21:49 |
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Is this like the electric slide or the locomotion? I wanna get in on this dance before it becomes a fad. Perhaps like the tootsie roll dance. "Cotton candy, sweet and low, Don't touch me in my No-no"
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| # ? Nov 02, 2009 21:50 |
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M_E_G. ADI. K posted:Welp, looks like they ain't abstainin' hard enough, guess we need to increase the funding for abstinence only education! poo poo, like that's a big deal. We'll just cut the science and math from the curriculum. Eventually K-12 education in the south and midwest is going to be reduced to bible study and "why condoms don't work" workshops. M_E_G. ADI. K posted:You'll have to excuse the ignorance of a poor foreigner, but Mississippi is one of those states that is traditionally heavily Democrat, right? Mississippi went Republican in 9 of the 10 last elections (1976 being for southern heartthrob Jimmy Carter). Or, to put it another way: Yargh posted:No, try again, it's the poorest, dumbest, fattest state, so not Dem. Tony Danza Claus fucked around with this message at Nov 02, 2009 around 21:56 |
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OK Some Butt Stuff posted:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:R..._blue_state.svg I was actually being sarcastic, I know Mississippi is red as a baboon arsehole, but thanks for the unlabelled map of US states. Tony Danza Claus posted:poo poo, like that's a big deal. We'll just cut the science and math from the curriculum. No no no, condoms cause Aids 
M_E_G. ADI. K fucked around with this message at Nov 02, 2009 around 21:54 |
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M_E_G. ADI. K posted:You'll have to excuse the ignorance of a poor foreigner, but Mississippi is one of those states that is traditionally heavily Democrat, right?
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| # ? Nov 02, 2009 21:52 |
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Nobody's 'upposed to touch me where my bathing suit covers!
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| # ? Nov 02, 2009 21:52 |
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Hey now, no need for Texas hate. I had sex-ed in 5th grade ('96) and while it was kind of simplified and toned down for a 5th grade audience they still explained the details and talked about birth control. Had it again in 10th grade ('02) and they went much more in depth about birth control, where to get it, how to use it, how to avoid getting taken advantage of, etc. Of course they stated at the beginning that "abstinence is the only way to 100% avoid pregnancy and STDs, but you little shits are hornier than jackrabbits and are going to gently caress no matter what so here's how to be safe." Well... in more polite language at least. This "No-No Square" crap is absolutely ridiculous. It baffles me every time I hear of school districts starting up new -- or continuing to use -- abstinence-only programs which have been proven time and again to be completely ineffective at deterring pregnancy and STD rates. Why do people so vehemently deny human nature and the fact that people -- yes, even your precious little angel -- love to gently caress? I was pretty lucky in that I went to a pretty nice high school. My four years there, with a steady student population of around 3000, I only recall two girls ever being pregnant (though I have no doubt there were some hush-hush abortions). It blew my mind when I went to a different high school in the same city to take the ACT and saw that they had a day-care center. A loving day-care center... in a high school!?
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| # ? Nov 02, 2009 21:53 |
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Why let facts get in the way when you have a hellofa catchy rhyme?
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| # ? Nov 02, 2009 21:53 |
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wait, I'm confused. Is the No-No Square a good touch or a bad touch?
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| # ? Nov 02, 2009 21:54 |
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Well, it sure is a good thing that telling kids not to do something and providing no information on why they shouldn't do it always works. Seriously though, "No-No Square"?? That may just be my favorite euphemism ever.
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| # ? Nov 02, 2009 21:54 |
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The combination of the 'No-no Square' and no sex education has to be resulting in some very confused teenage boys the first time they get into a girls pants. Still could be worse...I hear you can't even fit a square peg into a round hole.
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| # ? Nov 02, 2009 21:56 |
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It's supposed to go like this: STOP! Don't touch me there! This is my no-no square. R-A-P-E Get your penis out of me!
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| # ? Nov 02, 2009 21:58 |
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"Hey baby wanna find out what a yes-yes square is?" Fake Edit: Google just made me feel dirty. 
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| # ? Nov 02, 2009 21:58 |
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In Minnesota it's: Stop! Don't touch me there! This is my private square!
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| # ? Nov 02, 2009 21:58 |
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Jesus Christ posted:Hey now, no need for Texas hate. Name one time when it's not a great idea to point and laugh at Texas. 
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| # ? Nov 02, 2009 21:58 |
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I love it that the word "education" is used so poorly that it's lost all meaning. I can't wait for someone to sue abstinence-only states for disallowing the right to a proper sexual education. Freedom of Education didn't just overturn desegregation, but it means that public schools are forbidden from teachings that endorse a particular religious belief. Abstinence is part of a religious belief.
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| # ? Nov 02, 2009 21:59 |
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TheSleeper posted:It's possible to "overindulge" in sex? Sure, if your dick falls off, you know you have overindulged.
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| # ? Nov 02, 2009 21:59 |
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ColobusMonkey posted:It's supposed to go like this: In the back There's not a No-No Square A-N-A-L No one can get pregnant there!
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SopWATh posted:In Minnesota it's:
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Noni posted:Abstinence is part of a religious belief. It could be argued that it serves a secular purpose, as it's the only way to 100% certainly prevent STDs and pregnancy. That doesn't mean it's realistic or a good idea, though.
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Mississippi Rube posted:
Is it just me, or does this sound like a Gunther song?
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