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http://www.joystiq.com/2009/11/02/p...s-kind-of-good/ Well doesn't look too bad. Since it's the same team who did Pirates I think it could be a blast.
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| # ? Nov 22, 2009 10:51 |
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thingfromtheswamp posted:http://www.joystiq.com/2009/11/02/p...s-kind-of-good/ The original script was written by Jordan Mechner, who wrote the original story for the Sands of Time video game. (And also created one of the best adventure games ever made, The Last Express, not to mention designing the original Prince of Persia games.) Who knows how much the script doctors have messed with his original script, but that he's behind the original draft gives me hope.
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| # ? Nov 02, 2009 22:49 |
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This is from the same Mike Newell who directed Donnie Brasco? Weird. Looks like it could be fun.
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| # ? Nov 02, 2009 22:55 |
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does anyone else have a problem with Jake Gyllenhall being the protagonist? I just cant buy it.
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| # ? Nov 02, 2009 22:56 |
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TheTofuShop posted:does anyone else have a problem with Jake Gyllenhall being the protagonist? I'm sure this is going to break box office records in Iran.
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| # ? Nov 02, 2009 23:01 |
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I think the inclusion of Ben Kingsley just cheapens it all. Lately ive seen him as a guy who will jump into any old poo poo movie. I have some hope for this though cause I loved the first game they're basing this on.
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| # ? Nov 02, 2009 23:02 |
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I don't know.. it looks pretty drat similar to the Mummy series. Everyone except Gyllenhall seems like they're phoning it in too.
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| # ? Nov 02, 2009 23:08 |
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Mr. Flunchy posted:Everyone except Gyllenhall seems like they're phoning it in too. It's amazing that you've managed to deduce this from two minutes of footage.
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| # ? Nov 02, 2009 23:09 |
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I like Jake Gyllenhall's portrayal, but I recently played the XBox 360 game which has a similar sassy prince, so maybe that's swayed me towards that? (Is he trying to do an English accent though? I hope not.) Not liking Gemma Arterton, she seems more out of place. She's like Keira Knightley's stunt-double or something. Women never get that much interesting to say or do in these films, if she's given something above damsel/sidekick/love interest it would be a pleasant change. It reminds me of Pirates of the Carribean (the first one) in that kind of Disney-adventure-romp style.
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| # ? Nov 02, 2009 23:11 |
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Bambi posted:It's amazing that you've managed to deduce this from two minutes of footage. Seems to be phoning it in. Maybe the female lead is going to pick up an Oscar for this - but judging from her leaden delivery in the trailer, I doubt it.
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Vintersorg posted:I think the inclusion of Ben Kingsley just cheapens it all. Lately ive seen him as a guy who will jump into any old poo poo movie. I have some hope for this though cause I loved the first game they're basing this on. I hope he's getting paid well, because I cringe when I think that the only roles the man who played Ghandi can do these days are for lovely video game movies.
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| # ? Nov 02, 2009 23:26 |
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G-III posted:It's amazing how Kingsley's career seems to be a complete inverse from where it started or where it was early on. I'm not denying the man takes a role for a paycheck now and then, but in the last couple of years he's done: Elegy The Whackness Lucky Number Slevin House of Sand and Fog Sexy Beast So he does balance the lovely paycheck roles with quality ones TheTofuShop posted:does anyone else have a problem with Jake Gyllenhall being the protagonist? My opinion of Jake Gyllenhall aside, what's bullshit about this casting is that there are zero roles for Arabs to play in hollywood films, unless it's the villain. Here's a role tailor made for an Arab to play the hero, and they give it to some white guy.
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| # ? Nov 02, 2009 23:58 |
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Alexander Siddig needs more work. Although he wouldn't fit in as the Prince due to age.
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Bambi posted:This is from the same Mike Newell who directed Donnie Brasco? Weird. More like this is from Mike Newell who directed the 4th Harry Potter movie. I dunno. I absolutely loved the game this is based on, so I'm hoping it's fun at least, but considering Ben Kingsley's the main bad guy and he gets literally 1 second of screen time in this trailer, I have a feeling I might be stifling some laughter in the theater when this finally comes out. Also, since when do Persians have British accents? Might as well just let Jake do his normal American accent.
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| # ? Nov 03, 2009 00:19 |
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qbert posted:More like this is from Mike Newell who directed the 4th Harry Potter movie. All foreigners (non-American) have British accents. This looks like it could be fun cos of awesome debris sliding.
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| # ? Nov 03, 2009 00:24 |
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This looks like fun; the game was a big spectacle and the film seems to be following suit. I hope they have some proper parkour/freerunning scenes that aren't completely accented by speed-ramping slo-mo, like they showed in the trailer. So much of what was fun in the game was getting from one place to another using what was in the environment, until you were precariously placed on a ledge way up somewhere and had to jump across hoping that you judged the angle right. Why do the same complaints come up in any movie set in the past in a foreign land? "The actors are all white, they are all speaking vaguely accented English, etc." Almost all big Hollywood movies do this, even the great ones like Lawrence of Arabia.
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| # ? Nov 03, 2009 01:20 |
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Useless Rabbit posted:This looks like fun; the game was a big spectacle and the film seems to be following suit. I hope they have some proper parkour/freerunning scenes that aren't completely accented by speed-ramping slo-mo, like they showed in the trailer. So much of what was fun in the game was getting from one place to another using what was in the environment, until you were precariously placed on a ledge way up somewhere and had to jump across hoping that you judged the angle right. Yea, last time I looked Sir Alec Guinness wasn't Arabian.
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| # ? Nov 03, 2009 01:24 |
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It doesn't actually make any sense why they're white, so these movies are ridiculed for it. All the Arab actors I can think of in Hollywood are character actors. Omar Sharif was famous in his time, sure. But at least this movie is ignoring it. It's the "Pointless White Protagonist" of Edward Zwick movies that are so cringe-inducing.
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| # ? Nov 03, 2009 01:31 |
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theblackw0lf posted:The original script was written by Jordan Mechner, who wrote the original story for the Sands of Time video game. (And also created one of the best adventure games ever made, The Last Express, not to mention designing the original Prince of Persia games.) I absolutely loving adore August's blog, but the trailer just screams box office disappointment at me. I'm reminded more of Sahara than Pirates.
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the boy in a well posted:It doesn't actually make any sense why they're white, so these movies are ridiculed for it. All the Arab actors I can think of in Hollywood are character actors. Omar Sharif was famous in his time, sure. But at least this movie is ignoring it. It's the "Pointless White Protagonist" of Edward Zwick movies that are so cringe-inducing. I don't think that's an apt comparison. Edward Zwick movies have main characters who are white who probably should have been otherwise; this movie has white actors playing non-white, which isn't odd for Hollywood movies at all. Edit: now that I re-read your post, I think I misunderstood what you were saying, which is what I was arguing too. Nevermind my idiocy. Useless Rabbit fucked around with this message at Nov 03, 2009 around 01:56 |
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Elijya posted:My opinion of Jake Gyllenhall aside, what's bullshit about this casting is that there are zero roles for Arabs to play in hollywood films, unless it's the villain. Here's a role tailor made for an Arab to play the hero, and they give it to some white guy.
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Useless Rabbit posted:I don't think that's an apt comparison. Edward Zwick movies have main characters who are white who probably should have been otherwise; this movie has white actors playing non-white, which isn't odd for Hollywood movies at all. Sorry, all this minstrelsy confused me for a moment. However, where are the non-white actors playing white? Hollywood = Racist EDIT: OK, I read your edit, and yes, this indeed confusing... the boy in a well fucked around with this message at Nov 03, 2009 around 02:02 |
| # ? Nov 03, 2009 01:58 |
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Am I the only one who thought the trailer was a little... confusing? I might just be getting old. What the surprises me the most about this movie though, is that it's more or less done already and will just be sitting on a shelf for 6 months. How long ago have this happened with a big summer release? Trump fucked around with this message at Nov 03, 2009 around 02:18 |
| # ? Nov 03, 2009 02:12 |
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Did they just show the entire movie in the trailer? It looks terrible.
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| # ? Nov 03, 2009 02:20 |
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Trump posted:Am I the only one who thought the trailer was a little... confusing? I might just be getting old.
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| # ? Nov 03, 2009 02:20 |
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I just watched the trailer and I feel like they gave the whole movie away in 3 minutes. Looks extremely predictable. I wish they didn't use Jake as the main character. I guess I'll go see this movie if I really want to see CGI sand.
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Super_Lore posted:I just watched the trailer and I feel like they gave the whole movie away in 3 minutes.  
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| # ? Nov 03, 2009 03:30 |
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Elijya posted:SAND Alright I guess I don't need to see the movie! Problem solved.
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| # ? Nov 03, 2009 03:32 |
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SyRauk posted:Did they just show the entire movie in the trailer? It looks terrible. To be fair Pirates of the Caribbean did the exact same sort of trailer. It's Prince of Persia. It has sand, running, jumping, cheesy quips and a dagger of time. All the parts are there and it looks promising.
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| # ? Nov 03, 2009 03:42 |
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I think Jake is just trying to sound like the VA from Sands of Time, and he does a pretty good job. If it was up to me he'd play him in the movie, but Yuri Lowenthal just doesn't look anything like the character should. The chick's delivery isn't remotely as good as Fara's. The trailer did seem very cliche, so we'll see.
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| # ? Nov 03, 2009 03:55 |
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Pablo Gigante posted:Here's a hint: Persians are not Arabs Yeah, Iran means "Land of the Aryans" and they speak an indo-european language, unlike the Semitic Arabs. It's actually more appropriate for them to be played by Caucasian actors than Arab actors. I mean, poo poo, look at where the Caucasus Mountains are. That being said, Jake Gyllenhaal weirds me out, I wish they had picked someone else. For whatever reason it just takes me out of the experience.
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| # ? Nov 03, 2009 04:06 |
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I remember there was a shortlist a couple years ago that they were polling people on for their thoughts on who should play the prince. I'm pretty sure Gyllenhaal was on there as well as Zac Efron, a couple other younger stars and another actor who looked somewhat like the character and actually is a Persian prince in real life who has been trained in horseback riding and swordsmanship. edit: Found it, his name is David Zandi quote:David K. Zandi is a movie executive with an interesting background - he's a genuine Persian prince. http://www.darkhorizons.com/news/10...nted-for-persia Dacap fucked around with this message at Nov 03, 2009 around 04:14 |
| # ? Nov 03, 2009 04:10 |
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I guess I'll be the one to state the obvious: Didn't the first couple scenes imagery completely rip off Assassin's Creed eagle view or whatever, even down to the jumping off the banner pole?
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| # ? Nov 03, 2009 05:22 |
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Alferd Packer posted:I guess I'll be the one to state the obvious: Yeah, I was like ASSASSINS CREED! No wait, this is supposed to be Prince of Persia.
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| # ? Nov 03, 2009 05:44 |
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Useless Rabbit posted:Why do the same complaints come up in any movie set in the past in a foreign land? "The actors are all white, they are all speaking vaguely accented English, etc." Almost all big Hollywood movies do this, even the great ones like Lawrence of Arabia. The complaints are extra funny this time since the Prince character in the original Sands of Time game was clearly a barely-mocha dude with that same haircut and a vaguely British accent. He was about as "Persian" as Jake Gyllenhaal. Hell if you want to get really anal, let's complain that the lead in this movie isn't a barefooted white guy with blonde hair wearing a white sleeveless jumpsuit. At any rate the movie looks like dumb summer fun. I'm happy they took a game that at least had a decent basic plot, a fun historical-fantasy location and a cool gimmick to finally spend some serious studio money and talent on rather than dropping $300 million on a Call of Juarez movie or whatever lame videogame franchises are ripe for the picking.
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| # ? Nov 03, 2009 05:46 |
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It'd be interesting if they kept the same ending as the game. The Prince uses the sands of time to reverse everything that happened to before the start of the game.
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| # ? Nov 03, 2009 06:03 |
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Archilochos posted:Yeah, Iran means "Land of the Aryans" and they speak an indo-european language, unlike the Semitic Arabs. It's actually more appropriate for them to be played by Caucasian actors than Arab actors. I mean, poo poo, look at where the Caucasus Mountains are. No, they aren't white. The idea of the word Aryan pertaining to race is a Nazi one about white people. There is no actual "Aryan race".
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| # ? Nov 03, 2009 06:07 |
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Alferd Packer posted:I guess I'll be the one to state the obvious: They're both Ubisoft properties so maybe it's intentional.
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| # ? Nov 03, 2009 06:38 |
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I'm just a little disappointed that this movie isn't based off of the original Prince of Persia game. There would be so many great moments, like the scene where the mirror prince steals your potion or where the prince has to fight the really fat palace guard! That game rocked.
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| # ? Nov 03, 2009 07:09 |
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I can't be the only one who had a good laugh at the awkward positioning of the movie's subtitle on the poster: "The Sands Of Tim"
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