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I think I'm set, seeing as how I don't really want to put to much time into this. Thanks for all help  Couldn't find a previous thread for this  : The Norton license that came with my netbook runs out in two days and I will be needing free security to replace it with. I don't really know where to start because I always just used whatever was installed on computers I've used. So I have a few questions:A) What are the essential components of security for a home computer that may or may not occasionally browse a porn site but isn't really used to download torrents or fileshares and isn't used by someone stupid enough to click those fake "You need to install this now" buttons on pop-ups? Firewall? Anti-virus? Whatever Norton Internet Security is an example of? B) What are some good products you guys recommend? Are Adaware or Spybot still considered good? C) Do all the good programs generally do the same job. Or should I get and use two of each type of program (e.g. two different anti-viruses) to be safe? Thanks a lot for any help guys!
aunaturale fucked around with this message at Nov 03, 2009 around 05:25 |
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Norton slows down a desktop and laptop bad enough as it is. I can't imagine what it does to a netbook. Download and install Microsoft Security Essentials. It's free and it's good. It'll take care of anti-virus and malware/spyware for you. edit - Run this Norton removal tool to make sure to get Norton completely removed from your system.
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| # ? Nov 03, 2009 04:27 |
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Mr. Apollo posted:Norton slows down a desktop and laptop bad enough as it is. I can't imagine what it does to a netbook. Download and install Microsoft Security Essentials. It's free and it's good. It'll take care of anti-virus and malware/spyware for you. Seconding this.
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The new versions of Norton are actually good. It's hard to believe but Symantec rewrote the whole engine. It's lighter on resources than NOD is right now.
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Mr. Apollo posted:Norton slows down a desktop and laptop bad enough as it is. I can't imagine what it does to a netbook. Download and install Microsoft Security Essentials. It's free and it's good. It'll take care of anti-virus and malware/spyware for you. Do this. MSE is the best free antivirus I've seen. A really good product, and this is coming from someone who has really been satisfied with Avast! for years now.
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| # ? Nov 03, 2009 04:35 |
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Thanks guys. I'm using the Removal Tool now and have an install of MSE lined up. Do I need anything else? Is there a point of stacking Avast! on top or would that do more harm than good? Should I get a firewall with outbound-data monitoring? ZoneAlarm maybe? aunaturale fucked around with this message at Nov 03, 2009 around 05:24 |
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aunaturale posted:Thanks guys. I'm using the Removal Tool now and have an install of MIE lined up.  Don't stack antivirus!A firewall is generally unnecessary beyond a NAT or the standard windows firewall, both of which excel at dropping unsolicited packets.
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I think I'm set, seeing as how I don't really want to put to much time into this. Thanks for all help
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AdAware and Spybot have way for Windows Defender and MalwareBytes for me, btw. Here's a review of MSE for those that are interested: http://www.downloadsquad.com/2009/1...ity-essentials/ It beat all free A/Vs and only lost out to three pay A/Vs.. not too shabby!
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| # ? Nov 03, 2009 05:42 |
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Thanks for the tip on MSE. Just installed it at home to see how it works and it's looking pretty slick so far.
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Wrar posted:The new versions of Norton are actually good. It's hard to believe but Symantec rewrote the whole engine. It's lighter on resources than NOD is right now. I don't know if it's just me, but I'd feel dirty recommending the Norton suite even if they did improve. It's unreasonable, it's irrational, and I can't stop hating (post-DOS) Norton.
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Midelne posted:I don't know if it's just me, but I'd feel dirty recommending the Norton suite even if they did improve. It's unreasonable, it's irrational, and I can't stop hating (post-DOS) Norton. I hear ya and totally agree, but I'm itchin to try 2010.. I'm like a battered wife; I keep going back because they swear they've changed. They never change 
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Accipiter fucked around with this message at Nov 03, 2009 around 18:31 |
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Wow, I had no idea MSE was so well-regarded. I'll almost certainly install it first thing when I get home because I'm getting annoyed at AVG's obtrusive upgrade nag screens.
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Well Norton will never be as cheap to deploy as Nod32 is 
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crazyfish posted:Wow, I had no idea MSE was so well-regarded. I'll almost certainly install it first thing when I get home because I'm getting annoyed at AVG's obtrusive upgrade nag screens. The newest release has been pretty snazzy. It is slightly more anal than other programs, there was an article on Ars about how it reads codes in .vbs files, even when it is written in a .txt document and attempts to block it (http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/ne...-essentials.ars) but other than that, it does pretty good.
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Just to chime in with more anecdote about MSE. I've been running it since release day and I've not had too many issues with it except for one major one. I ran a full scan of my system and it choked really hard. It used 5.5GB of memory (Of my 6) and forced me to painfully page everything. The machine was pretty much unworkable. I believe it was scanning my MSDNAA downloads directory at the time. That directory is filled with HUGE ISOs so perhaps it loads what it is scanning into memory fully? I have no idea. Strangely it didn't show up in Task Manager. I just had some mysterious invisible process using gigabytes of RAM. I stopped my full scan and all of it was released. I'm going to try a full scan again tonight and do a little process exploring. If my hunch turns out I'm probably going to ditch MSE and go back to being unprotected.
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NotHet posted:I'm going to try a full scan again tonight and do a little process exploring. If my hunch turns out I'm probably going to ditch MSE and go back to being unprotected. I haven't dinked around with the settings at all, but can you not set up an exclusion for that folder hierarchy?
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| # ? Nov 03, 2009 19:49 |
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I liked MSE, but I had some serious CPU hogging issues going on with it. I've recently upgraded so I might give it another try, but it wasn't all roses for me.
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Yup.
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Weinertron posted:
What about behind the NAT, if a relative with an infected laptop/etc goes to visit and plugs in?
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Elected by Dogs posted:What about behind the NAT, if a relative with an infected laptop/etc goes to visit and plugs in? Windows Firewall, unless it's been configured to be full of holes or turned off, will stop unsolicited inbound traffic from the local network just fine.
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Elected by Dogs posted:What about behind the NAT, if a relative with an infected laptop/etc goes to visit and plugs in? Make sure your client machines have AV and are well-patched, and don't allow anonymous users access to shares.
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Twiin posted:I liked MSE, but I had some serious CPU hogging issues going on with it. I've recently upgraded so I might give it another try, but it wasn't all roses for me. Same here. I moved a folder with a few thousand files in it. Mostly JPG/GIF/PNG and Zip files. MSE was set to not scan compressed files. A completely harmless file-move process that didn't warrant any kind of scan. Well, MSE scanned every single loving file, bottle-necking the entire system with all the disk activity. It completely killed system performance. I went and took a nap waiting for it to stop I think. It also would pop up dialogs for EXE files it didn't recognize (Dropbox.exe, etc). It wanted me to submit them or something. MSE is great, except for that whole popping dialogs boxes up to submit unknown EXEs, popping up dialog boxes with multiple false alarms for the same file (even after I've told it to ignore it), and the performance killing scans it does. I tried AVG 9.0 on my system, but it has a known bug where it does unnecessary scans as well, with no way to stop them. If it does it one more time, I'll put Avast! back on.
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Xenomorph posted:Same here. This is depressing to hear. I had moved from Avast! to MSE because of all the positive reviews and love for it here. It has been good to me so far, I'll keep an eye out for any weird behavior. I do some big filecopys often, they just don't involve my C: drive. Could this be why I haven't seen slowdowns yet?
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