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Bob Shabazz: Oct 21, 2008; My father played for redskins briefley. Our coach. Nuthn.

Getting this week off with some of the best things to happen today.

Browns retain Mangini, fire their GM: http://www.seattlepi.com/scorecard/...rticleID=267098

quote:

The Cleveland Plain Dealer reported that Kokinis, who was in his first year as the Browns GM, was escorted out of the Browns facility in Berea by security Monday. However, the Browns organization denied those reports in a statement Monday night.

Football is bigger than the World Series: http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com...PKR&located=rss

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The part of Green Bay Packers-Minnesota Vikings game that spilled into prime time --- after 6 p.m. – collected a 13.9 million rating and 22 share on Fox.

Viewing peaked for World Series game between the New York Yankees and Philadelphia Phillies peaked at the start of the game. It had a 13.1 rating and 20 share on Fox.

And of course, Lloyd swears off the Falcons, again. Again.

# ? Nov 03, 2009 05:41

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# ? Nov 22, 2009 10:53

adaz: Mar 07, 2009; Offensive Genius

more browns news.

quote:

George Kokinis is out as general manager of the Cleveland Browns after less than one year on the job. The manner in which he will make his official exit was in dispute Monday, according to team and league sources.

Kokinis refused to resign when pressed by owner Randy Lerner, who then persisted in seeking a dismissal "for cause," citing Kokinis for failing to meet the specific standards as dictated by his contract, the sources said. The team's security and legal department were reviewing phone records to build its case against Kokinis, a team source said.

There also were discussions of whether the two sides could reach a financial settlement, sources said.

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Ernie Accorsi, former general manager of the New York Giants, Baltimore Colts and Browns, is being sought by Lerner as a consultant, a league source said. Accorsi could not be reached for comment. Accorsi has served in a consulting capacity on numerous occasions for teams and has an alliance with former Browns quarterback Bernie Kosar, who was hired by Lerner as a consultant on Oct. 17.

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Lerner has independently investigated professional and personal conduct by Kokinis, head coach Eric Mangini and director of football operations Erin O'Brien, who left the organization within the past few days, sources said. Mangini said Monday he had spoken with Lerner and was told his job was safe for now.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4616312

# ? Nov 03, 2009 06:01

adaz: Mar 07, 2009; Offensive Genius

I think Ham must be at work, but I can't wait for his take on all this. Just seems so loving terrible and the worst way to blow up a franchise.

# ? Nov 03, 2009 06:03

Weebly: May 06, 2007; General Chaos wants you!

Ugh, since it's the Browns I just know that the investigator was either Inspector Clouseau or Gadget (without Penny and Brain).

# ? Nov 03, 2009 06:05

Blackula69: Apr 01, 2007; If the easy way is to walk around something, you walk through it

Eric Mangini is the worst.

Larch posted:

Eric Mangini is a retarded rear end in a top hat with a massive ego problem. He will destroy teams forever because he failed to learn some critical things from his scorned master. Worse, he then went and betrayed his scorned master over something that every loving team was doing. He does not know how to run a team, he does not know how to coach a team. He is a giant bloated gently caress knuckle of unimaginable dimension.

He should have stayed with the Pats and studied harder, humbled himself. Why was he not able to do that? See my first paragraph. The one pats employee he managed to take with him has now been fired from the browns, for being an insufferable stinkyhole. Eric will eventually suffer the same fate.

Honestly, I would rather see the guy pull his head out of his rear end, stop acting like the second coming of Lord Belichick, and do something right. But I say to you that it will never happen. He is a worthless weasel faced fuckball and he will stay that way. No players will trust him, no staff will trust him. He is a turdball flying.

Duck.

# ? Nov 03, 2009 06:11

Nodoze: Aug 17, 2006; Can't post for 320 hours!

Saints own, Drew Brees owns.

# ? Nov 03, 2009 06:25

Kurt_Cobain: Jul 09, 2001

How many personnel decisions has Kokinis been responsible for? It seems like a guy in that position would need longer than less than one season to do a bad job. He came into a lovely team and organization. Not really trying to defend him, it just seems like an odd move.

Maybe he just sucked

# ? Nov 03, 2009 06:26

The Robins Taley: Apr 03, 2006; I'd bone her.

Kurt_Cobain posted:

How many personnel decisions has Kokinis been responsible for? It seems like a guy in that position would need longer than less than one season to do a bad job. He came into a lovely team and organization. Not really trying to defend him, it just seems like an odd move.

Maybe he just sucked

Well, he pretty much sat by passively and let Mangini be a gay rear end faggot about the QB position debacle that is, to everyone else, a no loving brainer. As an angry Cleveland fan (our natural state of being), this alone is good enough for me to fire his dumb rear end.

# ? Nov 03, 2009 06:29

Blackula69: Apr 01, 2007; If the easy way is to walk around something, you walk through it

The Robins Taley posted:

Well, he pretty much sat by passively and let Mangini be a gay rear end faggot about the QB position debacle that is, to everyone else, a no loving brainer. As an angry Cleveland fan (our natural state of being), this alone is good enough for me to fire his dumb rear end.

But not before firing Mangini.

e: vvvv i think people have more to complain about than just the QB situation

Blackula69 fucked around with this message at Nov 03, 2009 around 07:43

# ? Nov 03, 2009 07:35

DO YALL WANT A HAM: Sep 01, 2007

Grragh!! Lets fire Eric Mangini for Not Handling The QB Situation When He Is Working With Derek loving Anderson And Brady loving Quinn!

# ? Nov 03, 2009 07:38

savetheclocktower: Sep 23, 2004; You wait and see, Mr. Caruthers. I will be president! I'll be the most powerful president in the history of America. And I'm gonna clean up this country!

Nodoze posted:

Saints own, Drew Brees owns.

Yeah, anyone who missed the game needs to watch the highlights. Half the plays in this goddamned game are worth putting in a highlight package.

Speaking as a Saints fan, the Falcons are pretty good, and without a doubt the best three-loss team in the league. There's a good reason why this was the narrowest margin of victory the Saints have had all season.

# ? Nov 03, 2009 07:45

Mornacale: Dec 19, 2007; Talent. Skill. Stanley Cup.

The situation with the Browns makes me really sad. I can only imagine what it must be like for the team's fans, supporters through thick and thin.

I can remember, as a little kid, getting all excited when the Browns game was coming up. I didn't know too much about football, but by god I knew that we hated them and we were going to see two teams pull out all the stops for each other. Now the only tension in the matchup is being worried about keeping the streak alive. The Ravens have managed to steal even the best rivalry in the NFL.

One of these years, maybe, things will change. The Browns will get it figured out, and I'll get a chance to hate them again. Until then, stay strong Clevelanders. You're better men than I.

# ? Nov 03, 2009 07:54

TheHock: Jul 03, 2008; I have altered my retirement plans. Pray I do not alter them any further.

Bob Shabazz posted:

Football is bigger than the World Series: http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com...PKR&located=rss

Something ridiculous like 76% of all TVs in Minnesota were tuned to the Vikings/Packers game.

# ? Nov 03, 2009 07:59

adaz: Mar 07, 2009; Offensive Genius

TheHock posted:

Something ridiculous like 76% of all TVs in Minnesota were tuned to the Vikings/Packers game.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...asts_since_2000

You have to go to #12 to see something that isn't NFL football.

4 of the top 10 all time ever in the history of everything are NFL football.

# ? Nov 03, 2009 08:03

diarrhea for girls: Mar 13, 2003

adaz posted:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...asts_since_2000

You have to go to #12 to see something that isn't NFL football.

4 of the top 10 all time ever in the history of everything are NFL football.

XLIII - 98.7 million viewers

Daaaamn. No wonder the ad spots sell for so much these days.

# ? Nov 03, 2009 08:07

SteelAngel2000: Feb 22, 2007; Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to win the AFC West, Kyle.

I know we're only through week 8 right now, but at this moment there are 10 quarterbacks who are on pace to throw for 4,200+ yards this year:

code:

Player              Current         Projected
Peyton Manning        2,227            5,090
Ben Roethlisberger    2,062            4,713
Matt Schaub           2,342            4,684
Philip Rivers         2,036            4,654
Tom Brady             2,032            4,645
Aaron Rodgers         1,989            4,546
Drew Brees            1,698            4,528
Kurt Warner           1,914            4,375
Tony Romo             1,908            4,361
Joe Flacco            1,849            4,226

Note: Does not include Brees' yardage tonight

# ? Nov 03, 2009 10:00

PizzaDelivery: Jun 25, 2007; Not delivering pizzas since 1988

I'm forced to root against the Saints in the battle for home field advantage in the playoffs. If they don't lose at least one in-conference game, they'll have home field advantage, because nobody is going to top their margin of victory.

# ? Nov 03, 2009 12:53

Parlett316: Dec 06, 2002

SteelAngel2000 posted:

I know we're only through week 8 right now, but at this moment there are 10 quarterbacks who are on pace to throw for 4,200+ yards this year:

code:

Player              Current         Projected
Peyton Manning        2,227            5,090
Ben Roethlisberger    2,062            4,713
Matt Schaub           2,342            4,684
Philip Rivers         2,036            4,654
Tom Brady             2,032            4,645
Aaron Rodgers         1,989            4,546
Drew Brees            1,698            4,528
Kurt Warner           1,914            4,375
Tony Romo             1,908            4,361
Joe Flacco            1,849            4,226

Note: Does not include Brees' yardage tonight

Thank you rules that neuter defenses. The only new rule in the past 10 years that I can think of off the top of my head that helps a defense is the "no force out" rule.

# ? Nov 03, 2009 12:56

Monkey Fury: Jul 10, 2001

Parlett316 posted:

Thank you rules that neuter defenses. The only new rule in the past 10 years that I can think of off the top of my head that helps a defense is the "no force out" rule.

Sorta, but looking at the names on that list, it's really stacked with some very talented quarterbacks

# ? Nov 03, 2009 13:14

Regnevelc: Jan 12, 2003; I'M A GROWN ASS MAN!

diarrhea for girls posted:

XLIII - 98.7 million viewers

Daaaamn. No wonder the ad spots sell for so much these days.

Arizona involved with the #1 game

# ? Nov 03, 2009 13:29

BlackCircle: Oct 21, 2005; I've never been a part of a tie. I never even knew that was in the rule book

SteelAngel2000 posted:

I know we're only through week 8 right now, but at this moment there are 10 quarterbacks who are on pace to throw for 4,200+ yards this year:

code:

Player              Current         Projected
Peyton Manning        2,227            5,090
Ben Roethlisberger    2,062            4,713
Matt Schaub           2,342            4,684
Philip Rivers         2,036            4,654
Tom Brady             2,032            4,645
Aaron Rodgers         1,989            4,546
Drew Brees            1,698            4,528
Kurt Warner           1,914            4,375
Tony Romo             1,908            4,361
Joe Flacco            1,849            4,226

Note: Does not include Brees' yardage tonight

I really wonder how much higher Rodgers yardage could be if had an actual line around him.

# ? Nov 03, 2009 14:36

Regnevelc: Jan 12, 2003; I'M A GROWN ASS MAN!

BlackCircle posted:

I really wonder how much higher Rodgers yardage could be if had an actual line around him.

They'd probably run more.

# ? Nov 03, 2009 14:54

b0ng: Jan 16, 2004; Entering: World 4-12

savetheclocktower posted:

Speaking as a Saints fan, the Falcons are pretty good, and without a doubt the best three-loss team in the league. There's a good reason why this was the narrowest margin of victory the Saints have had all season.

Texans!

(will also listen to arguments for the Ravens)

# ? Nov 03, 2009 15:03

SirPablo: May 01, 2004; Dummy!

TheHock posted:

Something ridiculous like 76% of all TVs in Minnesota were tuned to the Vikings/Packers game.

quote:

Locally, TV ratings better for Brett Favre's return to Lambeau Field than past 3 Super Bowls

The Minnesota Vikings moved their record to 7-1 by beating the Green Bay Packers on Sunday at Lambeau Field. But FOX was the big winner.

Brett Favre's return to Lambeau was the highest-rated regular season NFL game on FOX in Minneapolis ever, according to the network, with a 47.0, which represents the percentage of Twin Cities' households that tuned into the game, and a 76 percent rating (representing the percentage of households with TVs tuning into the game).

At least locally, that latter figure was higher than the past three Super Bowls.

Nationally, the Packers-Vikings game did an 18.3 and a 34 percent rating, the network's best since Week 13 of the 2006 season. The game also did better than Game 4 of the World Series (15.6/ 25 percent rating), which was the best overnight numbers in five years.

Combined with the Carolina Panthers-Arizona Cardinals game, FOX'S NFL doubleheader ratings were the best in 13 years.

"Other than Super Bowl Sundays, November 1, 2009, goes down as the biggest day in the history of FOX SPORTS," the network said in a statement.

Views:

# ? Nov 03, 2009 15:16

Regnevelc: Jan 12, 2003; I'M A GROWN ASS MAN!

SirPablo posted:

Combined with the Carolina Panthers-Arizona Cardinals game, FOX'S NFL doubleheader ratings were the best in 13 years.

Arizona does it again!

# ? Nov 03, 2009 15:21

Intruder: Mar 05, 2003; Ask about our fine careers in dentistry

Regnevelc posted:

Arizona does it again!

Not on the field

# ? Nov 03, 2009 15:24

Regnevelc: Jan 12, 2003; I'M A GROWN ASS MAN!

Intruder posted:

Not on the field

You can just go ahead and blow me

# ? Nov 03, 2009 15:38

bewarefriend: Oct 18, 2009

Blackula69 posted:

Eric Mangini is the worst.

I love you Larch.

# ? Nov 03, 2009 15:55

Hilario Baldness: Feb 10, 2005

quote:

After scoring his first touchdown of the season in Week 8, Deion Branch said "Y�all come find me. Anybody want me, come find me," into the camera.
Branch has made no secret that he isn't happy with his role as the No. 3 receiver on the team and wants to be traded. Perhaps he fails to realize that the trading deadline has passed and he is still working on a ridiculous six-year, $39 million contract that runs through 2012. He's not going anywhere and isn't a fantasy option.

I think Rotoworld might have taken this out of context a bit.

Hilario Baldness fucked around with this message at Nov 03, 2009 around 17:15

# ? Nov 03, 2009 17:05

bewarefriend: Oct 18, 2009

DO YALL WANT A HAM posted:

Grragh!! Lets fire Eric Mangini for Not Handling The QB Situation When He Is Working With Derek loving Anderson And Brady loving Quinn!

Clearly thats all thats wrong with the team.

# ? Nov 03, 2009 17:17

SaxMaverick: Jun 09, 2005; The stuff of nightmares

Hilario Baldness posted:

I think Rotoworld might have taken this out of context a bit.

No!

Not Rotoworld!

# ? Nov 03, 2009 17:23

pasaluki: Feb 27, 2008; UNWANTED

Dead or Alive

DO YALL WANT A HAM posted:

Grragh!! Lets fire Eric Mangini for Not Handling The QB Situation When He Is Working With Derek loving Anderson And Brady loving Quinn!

The main thing with Mangini is he was pretty much given free reign to make even FO decisions. I think they need a commanding GM brought in from outside the organization. I feel they should let Mangini be the coach for at least 1 more year, because I'm not convinced he's a bad coach just in way over his head. By replacing him the team isn't magically going to start winning again it will take time.

And let's face it, it's not just the Browns and who suck with new coaches. Raheem Morris nobody still knows who the gently caress that is. Spags has the same number of wins as the Browns, but he's not on the hot seat and shouldn't be. Maybe Mangini does stupid things and pisses off players, but look at McDaniels. He did that too and me the vast majority of others, thought he was a madman with how he handled Cutler, Marshall, and the Draft and right now they are looking like the best team in their division. The Browns everyone thought had a bad team with questions at Quarterback: and they are.

And I don't think their former GM was the problem so much that he was hired basically by Mangini. Hell hope the Bills hire the guy he had a decent draft I thought.

# ? Nov 03, 2009 17:28

DO YALL WANT A HAM: Sep 01, 2007

bewarefriend posted:

Clearly thats all thats wrong with the team.

I just don't get what people's hopes are exactly. More creative offensive playcalling and not starting Quinn are about the only real faults I can find with the coaching staff. And I have already kind of excused the playcalling because I think Mangini's basically doing what Bill Belichick did, calling plays for players he doesn't have yet.

More than anything Mangini's done, I'm surprised by the reaction from fans. We have a 1-7 team because we have fuckin 1-7 talent, how is anybody shocked by this.

# ? Nov 03, 2009 17:29

crumshot: Dec 07, 2007; #1 sweater vest in the nation

Honestly, how do you fix the Browns? They're an absolute dumpster fire. I say this as a Cleveland fan too. You can't just gut the management every couple years and hope one of them sticks. I really don't know whether to think giving the GM the boot was the right move or not. I'm just at a loss for what they could possibly do that would make a difference.

# ? Nov 03, 2009 17:34

Gendo: Feb 25, 2001

Move them to Baltimore apparently.

# ? Nov 03, 2009 17:36

DO YALL WANT A HAM: Sep 01, 2007

Kinda like the North Stars......................................

# ? Nov 03, 2009 17:38

Gendo: Feb 25, 2001

Boom.

# ? Nov 03, 2009 17:39

DO YALL WANT A HAM: Sep 01, 2007

Pretty large take, I know. Huge maybe.

# ? Nov 03, 2009 17:39

momtartin: Jul 22, 2007; Not to be confused with poptartin

Browns fire a GM, and hire Erni Accorsi as the new guy the same day apparently:

quote:

George Kokinis was fired Monday as general manager and escorted from Browns headquarters, according to league sources. The Browns are not confirming the reports.

Hours later, sources said Ernie Accorsi was hired as the team's GM. The move is a blast from the past for Browns' fans. Accorsi was the Browns' GM from 1985 to 1992.

He also served as GM of the Colts from 1982 to 83, and also worked in the Giants' front office from 1994 to 2004, including a stint as New York's GM from 1998 and on.

In 2004, he spearheaded a trade to get No. 1 pick Eli Manning from the Chargers.

Kokinis has been on the hot seat for more than three weeks, the source said. The ax falls one day after Browns owner Randy Lerner said he plans on hiring a strong football personality to run the Browns.

The firing comes at the start of the bye week.

Kokinis was hired Jan. 23 at the urging of Browns coach Eric Mangini. Lerner has said Mangini's job is safe for now.

Not sure how I feel on this one yet

# ? Nov 03, 2009 17:45

Gendo: Feb 25, 2001

I thought Accorsi was just going to be a consultant. I didn't realize he was taking the reigns.

# ? Nov 03, 2009 17:46

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