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"nydailynews.com posted:Memorial arson: Drunk out-of-towner sets fire to sacred WTC area  I don't know Brian, but he went to high school with a group of my friends, where he was valedictorian. He went to Duke for undergrad, then Harvard Law school, clearly he's always been very hardworking and ambitious and he's got to pretty smart. But apparently he blows off steam by getting trashed in NYC and setting fires. This is maybe the worst thing you could manage to get arrested for doing without physically hurting anybody. Everybody's pretty blown away by it.
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| # ? Nov 03, 2009 06:41 |
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| # ? Nov 22, 2009 00:31 |
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People do stupid poo poo when they're drunk. Hell in high school my friends and I would drive around and throw beef at street signs for some reason. Couldn't even tell you why but it seemed like a good idea at the time. Wait we weren't even drunk for that.
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| # ? Nov 03, 2009 06:46 |
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Maybe he did it to protest the positive remembrance of the technocrats of imperialism.Ward Churchill posted:As for those in the World Trade Center... Well, really, let's get a grip here, shall we? True enough, they were civilians of a sort. But innocent? Gimme a break. They formed a technocratic corps at the very heart of America's global financial empire - the "mighty engine of profit" to which the military dimension of U.S. policy has always been enslaved - and they did so both willingly and knowingly. Recourse to "ignorance" - a derivative, after all, of the word "ignore" - counts as less than an excuse among this relatively well-educated elite. To the extent that any of them were unaware of the costs and consequences to others of what they were involved in - and in many cases excelling at - it was because of their absolute refusal to see. More likely, it was because they were too busy braying, incessantly and self-importantly, into their cell phones, arranging power lunches and stock transactions, each of which translated, conveniently out of sight, mind and smelling distance, into the starved and rotting flesh of infants. If there was a better, more effective, or in fact any other way of visiting some penalty befitting their participation upon the little Eichmanns inhabiting the sterile sanctuary of the twin towers, I'd really be interested in hearing about it.
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| # ? Nov 03, 2009 06:50 |
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burning WTC memorial > law degree from harvard
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| # ? Nov 03, 2009 06:50 |
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I hope someone flies a plane into his ivory tower. 
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| # ? Nov 03, 2009 06:51 |
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9/11!! This sonofabitch is going to fry. Terrorists flew planes into buildings, and it changed everything. Meh, I can't really talk. Every time I see a roadside memorial I want to torch it.
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| # ? Nov 03, 2009 06:51 |
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I don't know how drunk any of you guys get, but I don't get to the point where I decide to throw away the career I've built for a quarter of my life. How do I do that without blacking out first?
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| # ? Nov 03, 2009 06:53 |
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"Someone put something in my drink" is going to be a new big fad in defense cases across the U.S.
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| # ? Nov 03, 2009 06:53 |
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I can't imagine turning myself in for something I did while drunk, and then having everyone hate me anyway. That's some serious torture. The lesson here is never to turn yourself in.
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| # ? Nov 03, 2009 06:54 |
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hellotoothpaste posted:I don't know how drunk any of you guys get, but I don't get to the point where I decide to throw away the career I've built for a quarter of my life. How do I do that without blacking out first?
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| # ? Nov 03, 2009 06:55 |
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doctor 7 posted:People do stupid poo poo when they're drunk. Hell in high school my friends and I would drive around and throw beef at street signs for some reason. Couldn't even tell you why but it seemed like a good idea at the time. 
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| # ? Nov 03, 2009 07:00 |
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radiatinglines posted:I can't imagine turning myself in for something I did while drunk, and then having everyone hate me anyway. That's some serious torture. It might get you a reduced sentence, after which you could move far far away and change your name. (which you'd have to do anyway)
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| # ? Nov 03, 2009 07:01 |
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hellotoothpaste posted:I don't know how drunk any of you guys get, but I don't get to the point where I decide to throw away the career I've built for a quarter of my life. How do I do that without blacking out first? You've never woken up in a city you don't live in covered in ash and scorch marks you don't remember getting? You've never really lived.
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| # ? Nov 03, 2009 07:01 |
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He's reached a new level of drunk, that's for sure. Frat boys will be killing themselves to top that for many years to come.
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| # ? Nov 03, 2009 07:04 |
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Something about this is really satisfying to me because I hate rich kids so much.
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| # ? Nov 03, 2009 07:07 |
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He doesn't remember how or why, but he knows he did it? Curious. Of course, I've never been 'blacked-out-and-set-fire-to-a-memorial' smashed, so I don't know how blacked out memory works. It would be pretty ironic if he was pretty straight edge until that one night. "I'll go out drinking. Just this once. Nothing career-ending could possibly happen." That's a fairly sad story. Why is it always the grade-A kids who do horrible things? We're not surprised when a natural moron does something stupid, but this kid was a Harvard grad that was going places. Then he decided to become a terrorist.
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| # ? Nov 03, 2009 07:08 |
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Final Gloom posted:He's reached a new level of drunk, that's for sure. Frat boys will be killing themselves to top that for many years to come. "gently caress I'm wasted, let's go smash up the Korean War memorial."
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| # ? Nov 03, 2009 07:08 |
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Standing8 posted:"Someone put something in my drink" is going to be a new big fad in defense cases across the U.S. His confession was released and put up on Youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8LObmg_YaQ
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| # ? Nov 03, 2009 07:51 |
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CPL593H posted:Something about this is really satisfying to me because I hate rich kids so much. What did I do? 
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| # ? Nov 03, 2009 07:57 |
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Antonymous posted:What did I do? You killed his dreams
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| # ? Nov 03, 2009 07:58 |
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Antonymous posted:What did I do? Not you. You're ok.
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| # ? Nov 03, 2009 07:59 |
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break the fourth posted:Maybe he did it to protest the positive remembrance of the technocrats of imperialism. Looks like someone forgot!
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| # ? Nov 03, 2009 08:16 |
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I feel like I should be really angry, but he's white so I guess maybe he deserves a pass. I'm just so conflicted. Maybe they have the wrong guy
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| # ? Nov 03, 2009 08:20 |
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This is worse than 9/11
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| # ? Nov 03, 2009 08:38 |
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If he can't really remember doing it, how is he so sure he did it?  Also I'm willing to bet they would have had absolutely no idea who did it had he not turned himself in.
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| # ? Nov 03, 2009 08:44 |
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If he was looking for another job Iran or Libya would probably hire him...wait a sec... Apparently he was also a member of a homosexual student group (http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_..._Sept_11_Arson/) so there goes all hope getting a job within an islamic republic...
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| # ? Nov 03, 2009 08:47 |
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TheLastBasselope posted:I feel like I should be really angry, but he's white so I guess maybe he deserves a pass. I'm just so conflicted. Maybe they have the wrong guy Yes the wrong guy turned himself in
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| # ? Nov 03, 2009 08:48 |
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NOTE: Like Schroeder, Barack Obama was a summer associate at Sidley Austin (in its Chicago offices, where the firm is based). Did Obama put Schroeder up to this? Someone call Orly Taitz.
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| # ? Nov 03, 2009 08:48 |
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There's sources saying it happened because of a bet or dare, I honestly don't know how drunk you would have to be to do something that is so offensive, idiotic and horrible.
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| # ? Nov 03, 2009 08:51 |
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EvenBelieven posted:There's sources saying it happened because of a bet or dare, I honestly don't know how drunk you would have to be to do something that is so offensive, idiotic and horrible. I dare you to drink so much that you find out <  >
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| # ? Nov 03, 2009 08:51 |
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Born with a silver spoon in his mouth and he still manages to gently caress it up. Nice. Edit: Actually, good chance mom or dad is rich enough to buy him out of this. TheAmbassador fucked around with this message at Nov 03, 2009 around 08:57 |
| # ? Nov 03, 2009 08:54 |
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Schlegel Mach posted:That's a fairly sad story. Why is it always the grade-A kids who do horrible things? Because a moron doing something moronic isn't national news.
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| # ? Nov 03, 2009 08:54 |
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EvenBelieven posted:There's sources saying it happened because of a bet or dare, I honestly don't know how drunk you would have to be to do something that is so offensive, idiotic and horrible.
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| # ? Nov 03, 2009 08:54 |
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TheLastBasselope posted:I dare you to drink so much that you find out < I think you have to be a certain kind of drunk to pull poo poo like that. A few years ago a guy got drunk on Canada Day and was caught pissing on the national War Memorial in ottawa, poo poo went bad for him after that.
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| # ? Nov 03, 2009 08:55 |
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EvenBelieven posted:There's sources saying it happened because of a bet or dare, I honestly don't know how drunk you would have to be to do something that is so offensive, idiotic and horrible. Horrible? He didn't really harm anybody or do much damage beyond property damage. Offensive? Not any more so than burning down any other building. He didn't do it because of his hate for a religion. The people mostly offended by it are going to be the people who are already on soapboxes bitching about any little thing that seems to take away from the memory of 9/11.
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| # ? Nov 03, 2009 09:02 |
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TheAmbassador posted:Edit: Actually, good chance mom or dad is rich enough to buy him out of this. We only know he was Ivy League. His family could be super-rich, but they might just be kind-of-rich. They'd have to be at least very-rich to buy him out of almost drunkenly burning down a 9/11 memorial. If he was in on a scholarship he's hosed. Edit: quote:Offensive? Not any more so than burning down any other building. He didn't do it because of his hate for a religion. Are you seriously saying burning down a 9/11 memorial isn't more offensive than burning down any random building? You aren't serious. Vizin fucked around with this message at Nov 03, 2009 around 09:08 |
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EvenBelieven posted:I think you have to be a certain kind of drunk to pull poo poo like that. A few years ago a guy got drunk on Canada Day and was caught pissing on the national War Memorial in ottawa, poo poo went bad for him after that. Big whoop. Ozzy Osbourne pissed on The Alamo and was banned for a decade. How bad could it possibly have been to piss on a Canadian monument?
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Tin Can Hit Man posted:Ozzy Osbourne pissed on The Alamo and was banned for a decade. Then he went back and rocked the place.
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| # ? Nov 03, 2009 09:28 |
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Vizin posted:Are you seriously saying burning down a 9/11 memorial isn't more offensive than burning down any random building? You aren't serious. And when it comes to burning down chapels, I don't find that particularly offensive either. In bad taste? Insensitive to the burial practices of others? Unproductive use of time? Sure. Does it make me want to stand up, get angry, sue or assault somebody? Nope not one bit. He'll have his day in court. revolther fucked around with this message at Nov 03, 2009 around 09:31 |
| # ? Nov 03, 2009 09:29 |
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Vizin posted:Are you seriously saying burning down a 9/11 memorial isn't more offensive than burning down any random building? You aren't serious. Well it's a place where people were mourning the deaths of others and that ties into religion and, well, heh, religion. 
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