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Just like Left 4 Dead 2, the Sequel is here earlier than expected From the match director, TJ: quote:Tiger Valley 4-man tactical team match
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| # ? Nov 03, 2009 16:17 |
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| # ? Nov 21, 2009 23:17 |
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We need a 100% goon squad. But then we'd all show up with Mosin Nagants.
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| # ? Nov 03, 2009 17:05 |
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foghorn posted:We need a 100% goon squad. The shooting challenges at this match are not as important as working as a team effectively and overcoming physical challenges. 2009 Match: Arizona Action Shooters (my team) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EN_ycVrJGGY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SvMdcA0fp4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQxy5bGKQPg If the OTF Nation can field a team, you guys certainly can as well. Team OTF: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTIhhOny4gM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxGNAMRxh5w http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMHB7oaeWS8
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| # ? Nov 03, 2009 17:11 |
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Looks like a lot of fun, but as always this stuff is hosted somewhere in the South West.
TheStig fucked around with this message at Nov 03, 2009 around 18:51 |
| # ? Nov 03, 2009 17:40 |
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TheStig posted:Looks like a lot of gun, but as always this stuff is hosted somewhere in the South West. There are events in other parts of the country, I just generally don't go to them as traveling that far is harder.
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| # ? Nov 03, 2009 17:44 |
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Jesus those OTF videos a horrible. Did they actually own all that gear or was some of it borrowed/rented?
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| # ? Nov 03, 2009 18:23 |
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SeamusMcPhisticuffs posted:Jesus those OTF videos a horrible. Did they actually own all that gear or was some of it borrowed/rented? Shawn equipped them with about half the stuff they used. Considering they had never met before the match or trained together at all, they did ok. They weren't even last place on all the stages.
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| # ? Nov 03, 2009 18:26 |
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SeamusMcPhisticuffs posted:Jesus those OTF videos a horrible. Did they actually own all that gear or was some of it borrowed/rented? I would be pretty lost doing a competition like that for the first time, but watching the first 5 seconds of that OTF video where the guy is telling him "the beep means go..." is pretty insane. Him grunting about going prone on a ramp is also pretty disgusting. They would probably do better if they weren't wearing so much tacticlol poo poo. Is a competition like this scored on time only? Or amount of shots taken? Can you explain the format a bit more?
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| # ? Nov 03, 2009 18:37 |
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iceslice posted:I would be pretty lost doing a competition like that for the first time, but watching the first 5 seconds of that OTF video where the guy is telling him "the beep means go..." is pretty insane. Him grunting about going prone on a ramp is also pretty disgusting. They would probably do better if they weren't wearing so much tacticlol poo poo. Shawn doesn't take this stuff very seriously; he's mostly there to have fun. he also has a knee injury from the first Gulf War, so he doesn't like to go prone if he can help it. The rest of the team consisted of; Active Duty Marine (non combat arms), Active Duty Canadian Army Armorer, and a random internet jackass that had been crippled in a car accident 2 years earlier. The reason I posted it, wasn't to hack on them, but to show you guys that you could field a team of people with Mil-Surp Mosins and Makarov pistols if you wanted to. And let me reiterate; they were not last on most of the stages I wore less gear than I normally do for this thing due to the increased number of physical challenges; didn't want to get caught on anything. It was also 105 with hellacious humidity. Simply staying hydrated was a challenge. The 2010 match in march should be cooler, but I hear it rains like a mother fucker then. quote:Is a competition like this scored on time only? Or amount of shots taken? Can you explain the format a bit more? It is based on time; Fastest time wins. Generally you can shoot as much as you need to, to hit the targets. Penalties are added in the form of time for 1) Unhit targets 2) Shooting hostage/no-threat targets 3) skipping/not completing physical obstacles 4) violating stage procedures i.e. the order in which you do things
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| # ? Nov 03, 2009 18:45 |
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Well this sounds fantastic but making a trip to Arizona will be a moderate expenditure. I finally have all the gear together for one of these, but it'll be a stretch to make it out there for the event, let alone for training with the group.
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| # ? Nov 03, 2009 20:55 |
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I have to do something like this, if only to have room to point and chuckle at those OTF fellows. Also, gently caress Nagants. I'd be going US milsurp all the way. ArcMage posted:Well this sounds fantastic but making a trip to Arizona will be a moderate expenditure. What kind of gear is needed?
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| # ? Nov 03, 2009 21:22 |
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ArcMage posted:Well this sounds fantastic but making a trip to Arizona will be a moderate expenditure. It's in Waco, Texas not Arizona Fog Tripper posted:What kind of gear is needed? Pistol Rifle Ammo for both Holster that can retain your pistol climbing over walls and stuff Sling for the rifle Mag pouches help that's all you need.
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| # ? Nov 03, 2009 22:00 |
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I'm interested, but either the Tiger Valley website doesn't have any info on it, or I'm blind.
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| # ? Nov 03, 2009 23:58 |
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Would it be a terrible mistake for me to go to this event having never been to any sort of competitive shooting event?
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| # ? Nov 04, 2009 00:38 |
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you gotta start someplace, this is as good as a place as any...
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| # ? Nov 04, 2009 01:06 |
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SinistralRifleman posted:Pistol What are the limitations of the rifles/pistols? All optics/ammo/actions fair game?
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| # ? Nov 04, 2009 01:09 |
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Fog Tripper posted:What are the limitations of the rifles/pistols? All optics/ammo/actions fair game? The only limitation is that you have to use the same guns the whole time, and no armor piercing ammo/tracers.
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| # ? Nov 04, 2009 01:18 |
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Numlock posted:Would it be a terrible mistake for me to go to this event having never been to any sort of competitive shooting event? shoot some local pistol matches first if you can to get used to moving safely with a gun.
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| # ? Nov 04, 2009 01:21 |
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SinistralRifleman posted:The only limitation is that you have to use the same guns the whole time, and no armor piercing ammo/tracers. What were folks shooting the 500 yard target with?
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| # ? Nov 04, 2009 01:22 |
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Fog Tripper posted:What were folks shooting the 500 yard target with? Primarily AR15 in SPR type configurations. Some people had bolt guns.
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| # ? Nov 04, 2009 01:58 |
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What does OTF stand for? Or, whats the backstory on that team? Did they know each other beforehand?
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| # ? Nov 04, 2009 02:19 |
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c355n4 posted:What does OTF stand for? Or, whats the backstory on that team? Did they know each other beforehand? Off Topic Forum...it once was the FireArms mod for half life forum, then it became the World at War mod forum, and when that mod went bust it became The OTF Nation. http://forums.otfnation.com/showthread.php?t=55475 http://forums.otfnation.com/showthread.php?t=58220
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| # ? Nov 04, 2009 03:36 |
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SinistralRifleman posted:Pistol quote:This year you can expect at least 1 medium range shot (500 yards), but added this year, everyone will need a shotgun for both door breaching and target engagements. Could you clarify this, please?
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| # ? Nov 04, 2009 05:35 |
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ArcMage posted:Could you clarify this, please? One person on your team will need a shotgun, one person will need a rifle that can hit a 12" plate at 500 yards. One individual does not need to have all that stuff.
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| # ? Nov 04, 2009 05:49 |
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SinistralRifleman posted:One person on your team will need a shotgun, one person will need a rifle that can hit a 12" plate at 500 yards. One individual does not need to have all that stuff. So you will be blowing apart doors at point blank range? cool!
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| # ? Nov 04, 2009 19:26 |
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iceslice posted:So you will be blowing apart doors at point blank range? cool! they usually have a wood block in the lock section of the door, or dowel rods you shoot. You won't be blowing doors apart.
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| # ? Nov 04, 2009 19:43 |
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SinistralRifleman posted:they usually have a wood block in the lock section of the door, or dowel rods you shoot. You won't be blowing doors apart. If their door systems are anything like the ones used at the MI shoot, it's 90% as cool as blowing a door apart.
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| # ? Nov 04, 2009 19:52 |
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Skyssx posted:If their door systems are anything like the ones used at the MI shoot, it's 90% as cool as blowing a door apart. Which is still 300% cooler then anything most of us will do this weekend.
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| # ? Nov 04, 2009 20:17 |
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Scarecrow411 posted:Which is still 300% cooler then anything most of us will do this weekend. Well I'm going to the American Heroes Team Challenge in Vegas this weekend, and I'm going to try to not look like a retard in front of all the SF/SWAT teams...
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| # ? Nov 04, 2009 20:22 |
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Fog Tripper posted:I have to do something like this, if only to have room to point and chuckle at those OTF fellows. Also, they indicated a Shotgun would be needed by one of the team members assigned to a breacher role. In addition to the physical gear they imply that you need to be in some semblance of physical condition. Goons, drop those spoons. Also, if we could quite seriously get a team together I think I could spring for the trip. Might require a vacation spot to get my time freed up though. I run a Sig Sauer P220 in .45 and a Stag Arms AR-15. I would be willing to set up an SPR upper config but my long range shooting is extremely unpracticed.
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| # ? Nov 05, 2009 11:08 |
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I understand why you linked to the OTF videos, but watching them side by side makes your team look outstanding! Do all the members of your team use Cavarms lowers? I've said it before, I love your posts, they always get me so excited to get out there and compete! I want to say that I would be down for a Goon Team, but I have no idea what I'll be doing or how much cash I will have come March next year.
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| # ? Nov 05, 2009 13:00 |
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I really want to participate in a match like this but don't have much experience in shooting matches. Just some rimfire slow-fire when I was a little kid. Does anybody know of any east coast/north east matches where I could get all of the procedurals down before trying my luck at a major event like this?
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| # ? Nov 05, 2009 16:05 |
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djdanno13 posted:I understand why you linked to the OTF videos, but watching them side by side makes your team look outstanding! Our team was 7th out of 18 teams, which I was fairly happy with considering two of our rifles were run over by a truck and pretty well hosed before we got to the real long range stages. Mine kept working, but accuracy was screwed. The CAV-15 lower can flex and take some abuse that will just bend aluminum lowers; my partner's rifle was out of action entirely (he was the designated marksman on our team). His buffer tube bent and his scope cracked in half. Order of importance for performance 1) Effective communication; Let your team mates know what you're doing, let them know if you need help. 2) Take initiative; If you see something that needs to be done, do it and let your team mates know you're doing it. 3) Physical endurance; Be able to go non-stop for 10 minutes, over obstacles and such without getting too winded 4) Individual shooting skill. You may laugh at this, but playing Left 4 Dead or Operation Flashpoint online together can help a lot with team communication and coordination; so long as you play with the same guys you're going to the match with. quote:Do all the members of your team use Cavarms lowers? I was the only one this time. Everyone went on their own dime, so they were free to use whatever they wanted; most used Cav Arms furniture on their aluminum guns. When we sponsor people for events, I expect them to use one of our lowers.
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| # ? Nov 05, 2009 17:08 |
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LavistaSays posted:I really want to participate in a match like this but don't have much experience in shooting matches. Just some rimfire slow-fire when I was a little kid. Well this is different than anything else you'd find locally, but just shooting some local pistol matches will get you comfortable moving and shooting and familiar with range safety rules.
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| # ? Nov 05, 2009 17:12 |
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One question. Is M855 considered "armor piercing" and disallowed?
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| # ? Nov 05, 2009 19:17 |
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Skyssx posted:One question. Is M855 considered "armor piercing" and disallowed? yes, it will put holes through steel targets.
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| # ? Nov 05, 2009 19:34 |
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SinistralRifleman posted:yes, it will put holes through steel targets. YOUR STEEL TARGETS SUCK!
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| # ? Nov 05, 2009 20:13 |
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it might not penetrate right away, but if everyone shot it, it would significantly reduce the life of the target.
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| # ? Nov 05, 2009 20:24 |
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Well, I got a shirt... 
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| # ? Nov 06, 2009 04:13 |
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No dude, Awful Shooting Squad. rear end.
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| # ? Nov 06, 2009 04:17 |
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