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ArsenicWheat
Feb 24, 2009





Please tell me how awful and unreliable it is so I may reconsider my purchase.

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TheStig
Jan 03, 2009

Resident Tamed Racing Driver


It's awful and unreliable.

brbATF
Oct 29, 2007

One day, they'll come for you.


I loved mine. Regret selling it.

e. was my first pistol

brbATF fucked around with this message at Nov 04, 2009 around 00:18

Pristine Shits
Dec 11, 2004
Subliminal (subliminal) in an unnoticable way.


Gross!

ChlorineTrifluoride
Feb 16, 2009


Ugly as sin. Sell it. Buy a Smith and Wesson J frame.

ArsenicWheat
Feb 24, 2009


ChlorineTrifluoride posted:

Ugly as sin. Sell it. Buy a Smith and Wesson J frame.

Actually I do have a taste for revolvers but I'm looking for a 50 pr 60's era Colt Detective...shame I missed the "exact" one I was looking for, priced at 350...

ChlorineTrifluoride
Feb 16, 2009


ArsenicWheat posted:

Actually I do have a taste for revolvers but I'm looking for a 50 pr 60's era Colt Detective...shame I missed the "exact" one I was looking for, priced at 350...

Yeah, that's a gun that is on my list now too. I came to the realization that I really just love revolvers. Polymer framed automatics might be good, reliable, functional guns, but they lack all class and character.

I like turtles
Aug 06, 2009

Be alert!


Hey subcompact 9mm XD buddy

My first non milsurp handgun purchase too. Sorry, I've never had a malfunction with it, even feeding it a steady diet of Blazer Brass, WWB and Wolf.

I like turtles fucked around with this message at Nov 04, 2009 around 00:18

ArsenicWheat
Feb 24, 2009


I like turtles posted:

Hey subcompact 9mm XD buddy

My first non milsurp handgun purchase too. Sorry, I've never had a malfunction with it, even feeding it a steady diet of Blazer Brass, WWB and Wolf.

The gun store I went to only had blazer 9mm, is it not decent ammo? I'm partial to Winchester's white box stuff because it's cheap and clean and runs well in my Luger and just about every other 9mm or .40 I've fired but the shop didn't carry it...


ArsenicWheat fucked around with this message at Nov 04, 2009 around 00:29

Kodo Zoku
Mar 06, 2008


ChlorineTrifluoride posted:

Yeah, that's a gun that is on my list now too. I came to the realization that I really just love revolvers. Polymer framed automatics might be good, reliable, functional guns, but they lack all class and character.

My first pistol purchase was an M&P, and although I love the M&Pc that I have now, I also recently picked up my first wheelgun, a Rossi .357. I *love* my wheelgun, and have even started carrying it as/more often than the M&Pc.

Frag Viper
May 20, 2001

Fuck that shit


GAWD Those are soooo TFR 2006.

Congrats!

ArsenicWheat
Feb 24, 2009


Frag Viper posted:

GAWD Those are soooo TFR 2006.

Congrats!

I wasn't 21 in 2006

walrusman
Aug 04, 2006

I must one-up the internets!

ArsenicWheat posted:

The gun store I went to only had blazer 9mm, is it not decent ammo? I'm partial to Winchester's white box stuff because it's cheap and clean and runs well in my Luger and just about every other 9mm or .40 I've fired but the shop didn't carry it...

Blazer is fine ammo, cheap and functional.

XDs aren't my cup of tea, but they're good working guns.

HotCanadianChick
Oct 03, 2002

Shalom!


ChlorineTrifluoride posted:

Yeah, that's a gun that is on my list now too. I came to the realization that I really just love revolvers. Polymer framed automatics might be good, reliable, functional guns, but they lack all class and character.

What about steel or alloy framed semi-autos? A Sig or Hi-Power or 1911 is pretty drat classy.

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

What will you do when the Blue Helmets come to sporterize your guns?

shoot it with a luger

ArsenicWheat
Feb 24, 2009


HotCanadianChick posted:

What about steel or alloy framed semi-autos? A Sig or Hi-Power or 1911 is pretty drat classy.


They're classy but as far as carry pieces go...I do not care for the extra weight of a metal gun or the retard high prices of sigs or hi-powers.

Why pay more when you can get a gun just as durable, lighter & just as or if not then more reliable than its more expensive "top brand all metal" counter part?

Kommienzuspadt
Apr 28, 2004

Cunt

did you get it for carry? ive never fired the subcompact but i was pleasantly surprised by the FS i tried out.

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

When I see someone tilting my table, I shoot the bastard. That's my policy.


Don't stuff the mags with mud. They don't like that.

Congrats on the retro-TFR-bandwagon purchase. I love my XD and think all the haters are just pissed because their moms used thalidomide and they now have to use GLOCKS.

Fog Tripper
Mar 03, 2008

All we need is love
Zombie Patton





ArsenicWheat posted:

retard high prices of sigs...

You could always not buy new. In many cases, a used Sig is far better than a new production Sig.
Also: resale value

ArsenicWheat posted:

Why pay more when you can get a gun just as durable, lighter & just as or if not then more reliable than its more expensive "top brand all metal" counter part?

More comfortable shooting?

Fog Tripper fucked around with this message at Nov 04, 2009 around 02:12

HotCanadianChick
Oct 03, 2002

Shalom!


ArsenicWheat posted:

more reliable

"Six for sure!"


Fog Tripper posted:

You could always not buy new. In many cases, a used Sig is far better than a new production Sig.

Both of my Sigs were bought used

I like turtles
Aug 06, 2009

Be alert!


ArsenicWheat posted:

The gun store I went to only had blazer 9mm, is it not decent ammo? I'm partial to Winchester's white box stuff because it's cheap and clean and runs well in my Luger and just about every other 9mm or .40 I've fired but the shop didn't carry it...

As was said, both Blazer Brass and WWB are fine ammo, they're just cheap and run fairly dirty. In my ownership of it, I've never shot any premium ammo through it.

DrakeriderCa
Feb 03, 2005

Irish Biathlon Champion

Fog Tripper posted:

More comfortable shooting?

More specifically - better trigger, better control locations, and they point better in the hand. For the SIG and Hi Power at least.

Sorry OP, I'm not trying to poo poo on your thread. Good purchase of an XD - I recommended one for a friend of mine who's new into shooting, and he's loved it.

Fog Tripper
Mar 03, 2008

All we need is love
Zombie Patton





HotCanadianChick posted:

"Six for sure!"


I wasn't going to go there, but when I hear a goon mention " durable... reliable..." as if they are going to put down the cheetos and walk into a high-speed/low drag situation, my eyes start getting all rolly. Especially when they are thinking they might need more durable/reliable than the previously mentioned Sigs and Hi Powers...


I'm a big old pansy. I like a little weight to my pistols to soak up a little bit of the recoil. The added bonus of being able to crack the skull of an insurgent gives me piece of mind as well, as I walk these mean streets of Pittsburgh.

Edit: I'd carry my Model 10 heavy barrel, if only it concealed better.

_firehawk
Sep 12, 2004

And you can count, on me, waiting for you in the parking lot.

Frag Viper posted:

GAWD Those are soooo TFR 2006.

Congrats!

More like 2004-5. I hopped on the XD in late '05 and I considered myself late.

edit for content: Unlike many goons I still have my stainless XD service model. And it pretty much sits on a shelf. That said I have put about 6000 rounds through it. I replaced the recoil spring and slide stop at roughly 5500 rounds due to failure of the slide stop while firing. All covered under warranty though. I had a thread a long time ago on the subject. Its in the archives.

_firehawk fucked around with this message at Nov 04, 2009 around 03:46

ArsenicWheat
Feb 24, 2009


Fog Tripper posted:

You could always not buy new. In many cases, a used Sig is far better than a new production Sig.
Also: resale value


More comfortable shooting?


More comfortable shooting is purely relative. But considering concealed carry, it is fairly precise to say that a lighter gun is more comfortable. 3 to 4 oz, (wild estimate, I should, but have not taken the time to compare the weights of guns with full mags) of extra steel will likely not make a difference in how recoil is felt, but it will make a big difference in how comfortable that gun is to carry hours at a time during the day.

Im not real sure what you mean about triggers being better, all the Sigs and CZs I've fired seem to have a similar breaking point, nothing extraordinary.


At the end of the day though, all semi auto hand guns are just levers and springs and bored out cylinder shaped of metal in the inside...everything else is just marketing.






ArsenicWheat fucked around with this message at Nov 04, 2009 around 02:35

walrusman
Aug 04, 2006

I must one-up the internets!

I bet I paid less for my CPO Sig with three full-cap mags and Trijicon night sights, than you paid for that XD.

Just sayin'.

Fremry
Nov 04, 2003

pissing on your crotch will actually make it cleaner than the rest of your body

I'm personally for the polymer semis for carry and home defense. They really are the perfect balance of reliability, value and capacity (especially, because in a crisis scenario, the majority of people are going to greatly reduce their accuracy).

They aren't close to as sexy as revolvers, or really, any other type of gun, but when it comes to life and death scenarios, I'd rather live with an uglier gun that has a 10-15 round capacity than die with a sexier one that has 5 or 6.

Since this is a carry piece, I can't really see anything wrong with the choice (I might have suggested an M&P compact, but I'm biased). Leave sexy and expensive guns for the range/competitions. Relatively cheap, reliable, light and high capacity guns are what you want to have for a carry piece.

Edit: But let's not lie, in the end, a new gun is better than no gun.

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SadWhaleFamily
May 01, 2007

We're sorry, but it's time to go.

Fremry posted:

Edit: But let's not lie, in the end, a new gun is better than no gun.


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(yeah, I'm a jerk.)

The Automator
Jan 16, 2009


Fog Tripper posted:

I wasn't going to go there, but when I hear a goon mention " durable... reliable..." as if they are going to put down the cheetos and walk into a high-speed/low drag situation, my eyes start getting all rolly.

Some people use guns for self defense and not just range toys.

Fremry
Nov 04, 2003

pissing on your crotch will actually make it cleaner than the rest of your body

SadWhaleFamily posted:


Click here for the full 1024x768 image.




(yeah, I'm a jerk.)

Alright. Any gun that isn't likely to blow off your hand.

walrusman
Aug 04, 2006

I must one-up the internets!

I kinda want one. They're a hundred bucks and my dad stumbled onto 300 rounds of factory .25ACP at a garage sale for like a buck a box; gotta shoot it up somehow.

snarerushjunkie
Jan 18, 2009


Bastard I want that gun


so broke....

ChlorineTrifluoride
Feb 16, 2009


HotCanadianChick posted:

What about steel or alloy framed semi-autos? A Sig or Hi-Power or 1911 is pretty drat classy.

Note I specifically said polymer framed automatics.

Sigs (with wood), Hi-Powers, US Property 1911s are all classy. But, the 1911 race guns? Not so much.

Polymer framed automatics are like hammers. You buy it because you need a tool, but you don't actually care about it. (Well, maybe when you first get it, but the honeymoon is over pretty quick)

ChlorineTrifluoride fucked around with this message at Nov 04, 2009 around 16:14

Death of Chivalry
Aug 29, 2009

DEAD


Fremry posted:

Alright. Any gun that isn't likely to blow off your hand.

Hahahah. My friend has the exact same gun. He asked me to repair it for him because it wouldn't eject rounds when hand-cycling. Turns out THE FIRING PIN is the ejector. So the whole year he had it tucked away in penis carry mode was actually safe because it wouldn't have shot anyways. I lathed him a new firing pin so hopefully he he can finally blow his wang off.

On a more related subject... Does anyone know if the XDMs can take the same mags as the regular XDs?

Pvt. Public
Sep 09, 2004

I am become Death, the Destroyer of Worlds.

Death of Chivalry posted:

On a more related subject... Does anyone know if the XDMs can take the same mags as the regular XDs?

They will go in, but not eject properly (this is for XDM mags going into an XD, unsure about the other way round). The OEM mags that are made by Mec-Gar (I think) will work better than the factory mags, but supposedly they aren't of good quality or something.

stangman
Mar 13, 2003



Fog Tripper posted:

More comfortable shooting?
Carry has always been a trade-off situation. My 92FS is a lot easier to shoot than my P-32, but wont look like a wallet in my back pocket. The polymer service size and compacts (of whatever brand) are great for carry, but not the best for the range.

Fog Tripper
Mar 03, 2008

All we need is love
Zombie Patton





stangman posted:

Carry has always been a trade-off situation. My 92FS is a lot easier to shoot than my P-32, but wont look like a wallet in my back pocket. The polymer service size and compacts (of whatever brand) are great for carry, but not the best for the range.

Agreed, with some exceptions like the P239. But again, I'd love to carry my Model 10 like you would your 92fs, but do not for the same reason. However, if I ever live somewhere that open carry is widely accepted, I'd be rocking the S&W wheel gun.

ArsenicWheat
Feb 24, 2009


I was able to put 200 rounds through it today.


The recoil was very manageable and there were no issues...I was able to try a couple different kinds of ammo through it. I loaded 4 wad cutters, 4 winchester white boxes, 4 blazers, and 4 handloaded expanding shells into the high cap. mag and had no issues : )

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