|
I was recently charged $25 by my apartment complex for throwing a bag of trash on top of the big trash container instead of putting it in the drawer you're supposed to. My question is, is it legal for the apartment people to open our trash and dig through it? I'd like to not have to pay $25.
|
| # ? Nov 05, 2009 23:00 |
|
|
|
| # ? Nov 21, 2009 16:22 |
|
|
yes trash is public property, however they probably didnt dig through it, a staff member probably saw you do it. But ask how did they know it was you, demand proof.
|
| # ? Nov 05, 2009 23:02 |
|
|
joebuddah posted:yes trash is public property, however they probably didnt dig through it, a staff member probably saw you do it. But ask how did they know it was you, demand proof. I called them and they said they dig through the trash to find something indicating which apartment its from (and then keep said evidence in their office).
|
| # ? Nov 05, 2009 23:05 |
|
|
The complex can dig through your trash all they want. There's no reasonable expectation of privacy with stuff you throw away (from private parties or the cops). In the future, you can always just use your trashcan as a toilet. That way, even if there's something in there indicating whose apartment it's from, the management won't bother to dig through it!
|
| # ? Nov 05, 2009 23:16 |
|
|
Why didn't you just throw it in the dumpster in the first place?
|
| # ? Nov 05, 2009 23:23 |
|
|
Just don't throw anything away that has your name or address on and poo poo in the bag for good measure...
|
| # ? Nov 05, 2009 23:26 |
|
|
Brennanite posted:Why didn't you just throw it in the dumpster in the first place? You can throw it on top of the dumpster right after getting out of your car, but to put it in the receptacle you have to walk around to the side of it. My question has been pretty much answered though, looks like I'm out $25.
|
| # ? Nov 05, 2009 23:41 |
|
|
Narciss posted:You can throw it on top of the dumpster right after getting out of your car, but to put it in the receptacle you have to walk around to the side of it. You're an rear end in a top hat. Sounds like you deserved it.
|
| # ? Nov 05, 2009 23:54 |
|
|
You should definitely call your management company, and tell them that you are planning legal action against them for the violation of your trash-privacy rights, as enumerated in the constitution.
|
| # ? Nov 06, 2009 00:02 |
|
|
Narciss posted:You can throw it on top of the dumpster right after getting out of your car, but to put it in the receptacle you have to walk around to the side of it. Holy poo poo dude! You have to walk all the way around to the side of it? Hope that 10 seconds of your life was worth 25 bucks.
|
| # ? Nov 06, 2009 00:05 |
|
|
Slo-Tek posted:You should definitely call your management company, and tell them that you are planning legal action against them for the violation of your trash-privacy rights, as enumerated in the constitution. How should I approach them with this? Should I sit down with a lawyer first, or just straight-up tell them that?
|
| # ? Nov 06, 2009 00:09 |
|
|
Narciss posted:How should I approach them with this? Should I sit down with a lawyer first, or just straight-up tell them that? Yeah, you should sit down with a lawyer first. Luckily, I'm a lawyer. Send me a PM telling me how much money you have and we'll see if we can do some business.
|
| # ? Nov 06, 2009 00:12 |
|
Earwicker
|
Narciss posted:How should I approach them with this? Should I sit down with a lawyer first, or just straight-up tell them that? I'm voting troll. No American should be so stupid as to think they actually have "trash-privacy rights as enumerated in the constitution"
|
| # ? Nov 06, 2009 00:14 |
|
|
I fully support suing over $25 after you admitted fault
|
| # ? Nov 06, 2009 00:38 |
|
|
The next time you decide to be a lazy rear end in a top hat think about the guy whose job it is to dig through the garbage of lazy assholes.
|
| # ? Nov 06, 2009 00:47 |
|
|
drat, I thought I was lazy, but you've just boosted my self confidence. Thanks!
|
| # ? Nov 06, 2009 00:49 |
|
|
I know when I've lugged several bags of smelly garbage to my dumpster, there's nothing I'd want more than to have to drop my poo poo and throw away some other rear end in a top hat's garbage for them first.
|
| # ? Nov 06, 2009 01:48 |
|
|
You should go through other people's trash and collect identifying info, then include it in your trash and throw the bag wherever you want. Then the management will go through the bag and go nuts trying to figure out whose bag it really is! It'll be hilarious. Also put a riddle in the trash. Apartment managers love riddles.
|
| # ? Nov 06, 2009 02:12 |
|
|
TheTarrasque posted:I know when I've lugged several bags of smelly garbage to my dumpster, there's nothing I'd want more than to have to drop my poo poo and throw away some other rear end in a top hat's garbage for them first. I got pissed off just thinking about this scenario.
|
| # ? Nov 06, 2009 02:21 |
|
|
Garbage is considered abandoned property, therefore you don't own it anymore.
|
| # ? Nov 06, 2009 02:35 |
|
|
DELETED posted:Garbage is considered abandoned property, therefore you don't own it anymore. That's not true, you can be arrested for stealing garbage.
|
| # ? Nov 06, 2009 02:42 |
|
|
Civic Dare posted:The next time you decide to be a lazy rear end in a top hat think about the guy whose job it is to dig through the garbage of lazy assholes. OP is creating jobs, I think he should be saluted for that
|
| # ? Nov 06, 2009 02:57 |
|
|
Mulletstation posted:I fully support suing over $25 after you admitted fault I never *actually* said I did anything, just in case I did go forward with seeing a lawyer.
|
| # ? Nov 06, 2009 03:24 |
|
|
I am that guy that has to pick up that trash. If I find some garbage that was not thrown in the compactor and it's clearly a specific resident (seriously that junk mail you threw away has your name and address on it) I usually take it back the people's apartment and act like it's a bike and they must have misplaced it. Making people take trash out twice is more effective that charging them money in my opinion. EDIT: A good way to be sure that they don't go through your trash is to actually throw it away. It could have been someone else going through it and you could have got identity thefted and be out more than 25 bucks. bigperm fucked around with this message at Nov 06, 2009 around 03:28 |
| # ? Nov 06, 2009 03:25 |
|
|
Earwicker posted:That's not true, you can be arrested for stealing garbage. Strangely not wrong. Some places have such laws to stop trash-pickers.
|
| # ? Nov 06, 2009 04:20 |
|
|
Your are an rear end in a top hat for not throwing your garbage away. You are also an rear end in a top hat for not recycling. 
|
| # ? Nov 06, 2009 04:28 |
|
|
skipdogg posted:I'm voting troll. No American should be so stupid as to think they actually have "trash-privacy rights as enumerated in the constitution" It's right there on Wikipedia dude. The internet does not lie.
|
| # ? Nov 06, 2009 07:05 |
|
|
This is why I am glad I have a cat... Anyone wanting my personal stuff out of my trash will have to dig through a couple days worth of cat poop.
|
| # ? Nov 06, 2009 12:39 |
|
|
Narciss posted:How should I approach them with this? Should I sit down with a lawyer first, or just straight-up tell them that? I'm a special lawyer and you don't even have to leave your car for a consult!
|
| # ? Nov 06, 2009 12:43 |
|
|
In a court of law, they could maybe argue that it wasn't trash because it wasn't placed in the trash receptacle. It was almost as if you just left the trash in any other common area.
|
| # ? Nov 06, 2009 13:54 |
|
|
Ask for a copy of your lease and read it  Chances are it most definitely grants them the right to charge you for such asinine moves...
|
| # ? Nov 06, 2009 16:01 |
|
|
Earwicker posted:That's not true, you can be arrested for stealing garbage. This depends on where you are. In some places, trash is your property until the garbage removal people remove it, in which case the OP would have a (weak) case. It's also used to prosecute dumpster divers. In other places, though, this isn't true, and dumpster diving is legal, and the OP has no case. Talk to a lawyer if you really want to find out how the law is where you live (and have money to burn)
|
| # ? Nov 06, 2009 18:01 |
|
|
Mill Town posted:This depends on where you are. In some places, trash is your property until the garbage removal people remove it, in which case the OP would have a (weak) case. Yes and I'm sure getting his $25 back would cover any legal fees
|
| # ? Nov 06, 2009 18:02 |
|
|
Earwicker posted:Yes and I'm sure getting his $25 back would cover any legal fees I know it's totally not worth it. Apparently my sarcastic "if you have money to burn" was too subtle.
|
| # ? Nov 06, 2009 19:01 |
|
|
At the complex I live in there is no assigned parking unless you pay for it, so if there aren't spots available directly in front of the building I live in, people started double parking, parking in the fire lane, and parking in handicapped spots. There are plenty of spots, people just didn't want to walk an extra 50 feet to them. So I started calling the police. That stopped pretty quick. Cost of assigned parking in a carport? $40/month Cost of assigned parking in a garage? $60/month Cost of being a douche and parking wherever the hell you want? $150/night You sir, paid the douche tax. Hope you learned your lesson. Edit: Made post more clear. Sieg fucked around with this message at Nov 06, 2009 around 22:48 |
| # ? Nov 06, 2009 19:21 |
|
|
Sieg posted:You sir, paid the douche tax. Hope you learned your lesson.  That's pretty much it. You don't have a case as it's well within reason that they can do whatever the hell they want as stated in the lease that you signed. Worse, is that these complexes often have legal teams and will challenge you without hesitation. Your BEST bet is to go to the office and kindly explain that you made a mistake and if they could, this one time, waive the fee. Anything else is going to either cost you or make you look stupid.
|
| # ? Nov 06, 2009 22:20 |
|
|
This thread hurts my brain, I can't tell who's the bigger retard.
|
| # ? Nov 06, 2009 22:35 |
|
|
The Beavis posted:
I just looked at my lease. They can charge me $50 for leaving trash outside my apartment door. They can also charge me $25 for not picking up after my pet (if I had one). I am sure these things are pretty common, and probably is in the OPs lease.
|
| # ? Nov 06, 2009 22:47 |
|
|
Sieg posted:At the complex I live in there is no assigned parking, so if there aren't spots available directly in front of the building I live in, people started double parking, parking in the fire lane, and parking in handicapped spots. That's funny. At my apartments they have a towing company's number posted for us to call. No need to involve the police at all.
|
| # ? Nov 06, 2009 22:49 |
|
|
The Beavis posted:
What if I entered the office, asked to see the paper evidence they have on file (which they said they keep), and then ate it when they handed it to me? They probably don't keep photocopies of the evidence, and even if they did, photocopies aren't admissible as evidence in a court of law (although, ironically enough, *photos* of the original document are). I saw this in a TV show.
|
| # ? Nov 06, 2009 23:49 |
|
Rate Thread:
