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permanoob
Sep 28, 2004
unacceptably retarded

I am in dire need of expanding my computer-related certification lineup. My employer is willing to purchase any learning materials to accomplish these goals, as it obviously helps them too. I've started with some MS Server 2008 materials; books, videos, etc. I can't seem to focus on them, or absorb the info.

I've tried note taking. I've tried locking myself in my office with no music, no monitors, no distractions. Nothing seems to help and I'm beginning to get frustrated. Does anyone have any thoughts or tips on getting back into the process of learning?

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rearadmiral.rowboat
Apr 11, 2009

And ev'ry last inch of me's covered with HAIR!


When learning something new, I always find examples and then mimic them.

What exactly happens when you lock yourself in a room and try to study?

permanoob
Sep 28, 2004
unacceptably retarded

I can't focus on the task. I float off in my head, thinking of something else or getting the notion to do something else. Like I have ADD or something. And I'm quite sure I don't have ADD, because of how well I did in school, growing up. Unless that's something you can just develop later in life.

Saucy Tuna
Jan 13, 2007

dee dee dee


I think you're poo poo out of luck. You have to know how to learn if you want to learn how to learn.

ADHD can become more apparent later in life, but just because you did well in school doesn't mean you can't have ADHD, which to me it sounds like you may. Find a psychiatrist, NOT a psychologist, and tell them exactly you've said here. I've never been officially diagnosed or tested for ADHD, and I'm on adderall; I just went to a psychiatrist who I will admit is script happy.

e: I do have legit ADHD symptoms btw, I'm not a speed junkie like my tag might seem to indicate. Also, ADD and ADHD are considered the same, and ADHD is the accepted term

Saucy Tuna fucked around with this message at Nov 06, 2009 around 04:47

xopher.white
Aug 18, 2005

everything, all the time

this is the world

Set a goal, one which is somehow related to the learning, and one which is not trivial. Fix an achievement at a specific and reasonable time in your future and tell your family and friends, or whoever will keep you accountable to your goal, about what you intend to do. Keep a journal of your progress towards your goal over time, and this can be the catalyst for your learning.

For example: permanoob wants to own a Porsche 911 in X years. In order to buy/put a downpayment down/make payments on a Porsche 911, permanoob needs to make $Y per year. In order to make $Y, permanoob needs to take courses a, b, and c. Once you have linked the learning to your goals, you have a reason to focus on them. If other things are more interesting than the materials in front of you, you are either disinterested in the subject matter or not properly incentivized.

So besides make money, what do you really want, spiritual, material, or otherwise? When you can answer that, you'll have a reason to learn.

rearadmiral.rowboat
Apr 11, 2009

And ev'ry last inch of me's covered with HAIR!


Saucy Tuna posted:

I think you're poo poo out of luck. You have to know how to learn if you want to learn how to learn.

ADHD can become more apparent later in life, but just because you did well in school doesn't mean you can't have ADHD, which to me it sounds like you may. Find a psychiatrist, NOT a psychologist, and tell them exactly you've said here. I've never been officially diagnosed or tested for ADHD, and I'm on adderall; I just went to a psychiatrist who I will admit is script happy.

e: I do have legit ADHD symptoms btw, I'm not a speed junkie like my tag might seem to indicate. Also, ADD and ADHD are considered the same, and ADHD is the accepted term

My mind wanders sometimes too. Should I get a scrip???

NightShroud
Jun 06, 2008


Start regularly reading books that interest you, no matter what those said books are about. Just sitting around, taking a breather, and taking in a really fascinating book can get your mind in gear and just keep your mind in check overall. At least it always did for me..

Zhongchao84
Jul 06, 2006


Read this website, it helped me concentrate in my studies:

http://www.studygs.net/concen.htm

Follow the instructions!

permanoob
Sep 28, 2004
unacceptably retarded

Zhongchao84 posted:

Read this website, it helped me concentrate in my studies:

http://www.studygs.net/concen.htm

Follow the instructions!

Pretty good ideas in that link there. Thanks a ton for that. There's some other good suggestions here. Thanks guys. Keep them coming if you have them. Hopefully I can find one that works for me. I need to earn more money and that poo poo hinges on my ability to be able to accomplish this stuff.

NightShroud
Jun 06, 2008


Also, if you dind't mind it, it would also help to tell how old you are. As people get older and get on in age, it get's progressively harder for your mind to grasp knowledge and information as easily as if you were say, 16 again.

yatagan
Aug 31, 2009


rearadmiral.rowboat posted:

My mind wanders sometimes too. Should I get a scrip???

Sure. Sometimes you just need a boost to get poo poo done.

SiliconCow
Jul 14, 2001


If it's computer related then set yourself up a citrix xen or esx box and actually create VMs that mimic what you're reading about. Not only does this help you make sense of the text in front of you, but you'll actually become better at doing what the certification is supposed to demonstrate in the first place.

Also, sometimes some minor distraction like music helps. After awhile your thinking actually starts flowing with the song and it's kinda cool.

Veritron
Sep 14, 2004



Books are inefficient for learning computer material - it's useful to have them for reference, but you'll pick stuff up a lot faster if you have things you need to get done.

Dangbe
Dec 02, 2008


SELECT * FROM dbo.ReadingMaterial WHERE Content = Relevant

If only that worked. But yea, for sql stuff you are going to want to try and build your own database and mess with it from there. The only way you are going to learn is to actually see the data being assembled yourself.

If you are trying to learn something in addition to sql, like C# or something, build your own web page that uses a database back end or build your own windows app. It is such a fast way to learn because you will run into problems and solve them as you go.

permanoob
Sep 28, 2004
unacceptably retarded

I'm 30, almost 31. I'm going to try and requisition a couple of computers and get a lab going. I think that I will learn better with the video training I have, over books. Books, I have no problem with as reference points, but I seem to hold onto those less than I do watching video training.

Zhongchao84
Jul 06, 2006


I'm sure you can do it. Anyone can re-learn how to learn.

Just keep in mind that it's all about developing good habits. Try to catch yourself when you 'drift' and re-balance yourself immediately after. Once you pick up this habit, you will have no problems at all!

orange
Sep 30, 2002


rearadmiral.rowboat posted:

My mind wanders sometimes too. Should I get a scrip???

It's quite obvious that you have ADHD. Get help!

rearadmiral.rowboat
Apr 11, 2009

And ev'ry last inch of me's covered with HAIR!


yatagan posted:

Sure. Sometimes you just need a boost to get poo poo done.

I was being sarcastic. The guy diagnosed the OP with ADHD based on the fact that his mind wanders.

DarthJeebus
Apr 08, 2006
The awesomeness is strong in this one.

permanoob posted:

I've tried note taking. I've tried locking myself in my office with no music, no monitors, no distractions. Nothing seems to help and I'm beginning to get frustrated. Does anyone have any thoughts or tips on getting back into the process of learning?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yerkes-Dodson_law

tinselt0wn
Aug 24, 2006


orange posted:

It's quite obvious that you have ADHD. Get help!

My mind ocassionally wandering when reading dry, technical material has been the plague of my existence.

Now I take amphetamines daily, and my god, I'm a whole new man.

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I wanted to know more about managing exchange so I set up a vmware box with a dc, and a few exchange 2010 machines covering different roles.

sanchez
Feb 26, 2003


Try booking the test for a few months from now, fear of failure motivates me quite well.

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