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 bad movie knight
Dec 30, 2002




Welcome to the Never-Ending Film Festival!

When does it start? Monday, November 16!

When does it end? Never!

That's right -- each day, the members of Cinema Discusso will hand-pick a quality film for you to enjoy and discuss. The goal is to collectively watch a poo poo-ton of great movies, spanning all different genres, eras and countries, and, in a first for Cinema Discusso, not exclude anyone.

Whoa there big daddy, how's it going to work?
We'll schedule movies two weeks in advance. Selections will tend toward films available online (Netflix Play It Now, Hulu, Crackle, YouTube in a pinch), and there will be no pressure or mandatory viewing. Watch what you're interested in and have time to view, avoid what you're not or can't. It's that simple.

How will films be selected?
When slots are available, I will open and sticky the (separate) selection thread. Each goon is entitled to propose one movie per week. Act fast, though, because I will close the thread when slots are full, and you will have to resubmit your selection the following week.

What films can I propose?
Any of them, within reason. At the minimum, they have to be between 60-180 minutes long, not count as a television episode and be readily available on DVD or online -- bonus points if it's available to watch legally online. I'd like this to remain at a nice balance of art and entertainment, if at all possible.

Are you making GBS threads me? I can just, like, suggest movies and other goons will watch them?
Well, maybe. Don't get discouraged if few goons respond to your suggestions, at least at first. I imagine this will need to build up steam, and we might have some things to iron out early on. But hopefully we can get a nice rhythm of good-movie-watching going.

Are we watching them simultaneously or...?
There will be no requirement to watch them simultaneously. However, if you feel like being part of a dedicated core of movie-watchers, anyone with a loose schedule should aim to watch the day's selection at 8 p.m. PST. For this reason, I ask that all spoilers be rigorously tagged, so those who haven't seen a given movie yet don't have it spoiled by the early birds. (Unlike the Drive-In, standard GBS rules will be in effect so we can stay classy.)

How do I submit a movie?
Cobble together a brief, spoiler-free pitch of a movie you think all of SA should see. Include some relevant information (at the minimum, year, genre, country, a brief plot synopsis, an IMDb link and links to any sites playing it online), but feel free to spice it up with some eye-grabbing screenshots. If you whet another goon's appetite for the film, it's more likely he or she will watch it and join in the discussion. Post this in this here suggestion thread. I will try to keep a prominently displayed calendar of upcoming movies at the bottom of this OP, and in the dedicated weekly threads I will be creating.

What will become of the other community events?
They'll largely remain the same; if anything, this will just streamline the suggestion process for the Drive-In, the Netflix Parties and Movie of the Month. Suggestions for these will also come through this thread from now on, and will be voted on accordingly.

Drive-In (Thursdays @ 8 p.m. PST) - Bad movies. The worst. Must be available for online viewing. Might diverge into discussions of Dakota Fanning's creepy IMDb fanbase, Jason/Obama slash fiction or Eli Roth's upcoming projects.

Netflix Party (Sundays @ 3 p.m. PST, subject to change) - Movies that would be fun and easy to follow with a very vocal crowd, more of an MST3K approach to communal viewing.

Movie of the Month - Bona fide classics, contemporary classics, movies of significance deserving of extended analysis. Any goon suggesting a candidate for Movie of the Month should be prepared to write a fairly in-depth essay about their chosen movie.

All three of these events will have their own threads, in keeping with tradition. However, all selection should happen here.

OK, but I have another question...
Ask in this here thread, and I'll make every attempt to clarify your answer in a personal response and (if necessary) an edit to the OP. If it's closed at the time, toss me a PM and I'll clarify in an addendum to the thread and (if necessary) an edit to the OP.

Upcoming Films

11/16 - The Proposition (Western, 2005, Australia) - IMDb | Netflix Play It Now
11/17 - Forgotten Silver (Comedy, 1995, New Zealand) - IMDb | Netflix
11/18 - Hanyo (Drama, 1960, Korea) - IMDb | The Auteurs
11/19 - Linda Linda Linda (Comedy, 2005, Japan) - IMDb | Netflix | The Auteurs | Trailer (No Subs)
Drive-In - Plan 9 from Outer Space (1959, Sci-Fi, USA) - IMDb | Netflix Play It Now
11/20 - Kontroll (Thriller, 2003, Hungary) - IMDb | Netflix | Trailer
11/21 - The Emperor's Naked Army Marches On (Documentary, 1987, Japan) - IMDb | Netflix
11/22 - Forbidden Planet (Sci-Fi, 1960, USA) - IMDb | The Auteurs

11/23 - Onibaba (Horror, 1964, Japan) - IMDb | Netflix | Trailer
11/24 - Batman: Mask of the Phantasm (Action, 1993, USA) - IMDb | Netflix Play It Now
11/25 - Dr. Strangelove or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb (1964, Comedy, UK) - IMDb | Netflix Play It Now
11/26 -
Drive-In - Cheerleader Ninjas (Action, 2002, USA) - IMDb | Hulu
11/27 -
11/28 -
11/29 -

December Movie of the Month -

bad movie knight fucked around with this message at Nov 19, 2009 around 01:06

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the
Jul 18, 2004

We Gronks have mouths in our stomachses and speak through our noses





The Proposition (2005) - Netflix | IMDB

Aussie director John Hillcoat helmed this gripping, epic-scale Western set in the thick of the 1880s outback. When no-nonsense lawman Capt. Stanley (Ray Winstone) apprehends the notorious Charlie Burns (Guy Pearce) and his younger sibling, Mikey (Richard Wilson), Stanley makes Charlie an unsavory proposition: If he murders his outlaw brother, Arthur (Danny Huston), Mikey will escape the hangman's noose. Emily Watson plays Stanley's genteel wife.

FitFortDanga
Nov 19, 2004

Nice try, asshole



I am extremely confused by the OP. What's going on? If I want to do a MOTM, nine other goons have to vote for it too?

Bacon55555
Jan 21, 2008

Desert Heat? I thought it was Dessert Heat. No wonder it tastes so bad.



Just to clarify a few things as soon as possible to avoid any terrible disasters...

Will Drive-In, Netflix Party, and Movie of the Month still have their own separate threads for the event or will they be combined into the weekly thread?

Also, you list that Drive-Ins are required to be available online. I know that in the past some of our best ones have been on DVD only so can the 3/5 vote still apply to Drive-Ins?

Is this the proper thread to post suggestions?

After watching Uwe Boll's Bloodrayne do you have a better idea about the mythology surrounding vampires?

Might people get one special suggestion and one normal suggestion a week? A special suggestion would go to Drive-In, Netflix Party, or Movie of the Month and a normal suggestion would go to the day to day movies.

Jay Dub
Jul 27, 2009




Forgotten Silver
Directed by: Peter Jackson, Costa Botes
Length: 70 minutes
Year: 1995

Synopsis: In the early 1990s, director Peter Jackson stumbled across a chest filled with old film reels dating back to the early years of silent cinema. Upon further examination, it was discovered that the techniques and film processes used in these reels predated conventional film history by many years. Jackson's documentary details the life and times of New Zealand's most forgotten filmmaker, Colin McKenzie, with commentary from such film luminaries as Sam Neill, Leonard Maltin and Harvey Weinstein. The film also comes with the unspoken but implied caveat that  it's a complete hoax. 

It's available on DVD from Netflix, but I've not been able to find it streaming online anywhere. I realize that means I'll need more votes, but I'm willing to fight for this one.

 bad movie knight
Dec 30, 2002




FitFortDanga posted:

I am extremely confused by the OP. What's going on? If I want to do a MOTM, nine other goons have to vote for it too?
Fixed. Check the OP.

 bad movie knight
Dec 30, 2002




Bacon55555 posted:

Just to clarify a few things as soon as possible to avoid any terrible disasters...
OK...

quote:

Will Drive-In, Netflix Party, and Movie of the Month still have their own separate threads for the event or will they be combined into the weekly thread?
Separate threads, but selection will happen in this thread.

quote:

Also, you list that Drive-Ins are required to be available online. I know that in the past some of our best ones have been on DVD only so can the 3/5 vote still apply to Drive-Ins?
No. I thought about this a lot last night, and we've had at least one disastrous failure because the DVD, while available on Netflix, was in such limited supply. I just figured it's easier for everyone involved if we make them online-only.

quote:

Is this the proper thread to post suggestions?
Yes.

quote:

After watching Uwe Boll's Bloodrayne do you have a better idea about the mythology surrounding vampires?
I have no idea what the gently caress we just watched.

quote:

Might people get one special suggestion and one normal suggestion a week? A special suggestion would go to Drive-In, Netflix Party, or Movie of the Month and a normal suggestion would go to the day to day movies.
I think this is making it too complicated, so I'll leave the OP the way it is in this case, but I'm fine with people submitting two suggestions, one for the Never-Ending Film Festival and one for a special event.

Peaceful Anarchy
Sep 18, 2005
sXe
I am the math man.



quote:

Any of them, within reason. At the minimum, they have to be between 60-180 minutes long, not count as a television episode and be readily available on DVD. Bonus points if it's available to watch legally online (and, as mentioned above, fewer goons will have to back your selection if this is the case.) I'd like this to remain at a nice balance of art and entertainment, if at all possible.

Does it have to be readily available on DVD if it's readily available, legally, online?

I would like to suggest The Housemaid which is legally available on line but not released on DVD, in the US, as far as I know.

Hanyo
1960
110 minutes
Korean Drama

It's a really cool dark comedy/drama about a composer who works at a factory and hires one of the young women there as his housemaid which causes tension and drama in his life.

 bad movie knight
Dec 30, 2002




Peaceful Anarchy posted:

Does it have to be readily available on DVD if it's readily available, legally, online?
You are correct, sir. I will edit the OP to reflect this.

 bad movie knight
Dec 30, 2002




Hey I know everyone's excited to throw their own recommendations out, but don't forget to vote on other movies you'd like to see featured. You can only submit one movie per week, but you can vote as often as you'd like. Help each other out!

Peaceful Anarchy
Sep 18, 2005
sXe
I am the math man.



So is the Taste-Stapo thread over with or what?

FitFortDanga
Nov 19, 2004

Nice try, asshole



Really, between MOTM, Drive-In, and Netflix Party, don't we already have enough movies to watch as a community? I dunno about anyone else, but at any given time I've got 2-10 movies on deck waiting to be watched.

I really, really like the effort you've put into breathing life into this forum, and most of your ideas have been quite successful. But having a new "festival" movie every day is overkill. Plus, the whole process of suggesting/ratifying seems needlessly complicated.

Might I suggest a compromise? MOTM has been pretty successful, but discussion tends to peter out quickly. The "Two-Week Movie" didn't fly because it was confusing. So how about just changing "Movie of the Month" to "Movie of the Week"? Just announce each MOTW several days in advance to give people a chance to procure and watch the movie. And none of this voting/ratifying business. Let everyone take a turn who wants one, just ensure that no one member dominates it (*cough* Magic Hate Ball *cough*).

 bad movie knight
Dec 30, 2002




Peaceful Anarchy posted:

So is the Taste-Stapo thread over with or what?
Yep. Only a couple Taste-Stapo were actually participating in the acceptance/rejection portion, so we couldn't act. Plus, several goons expressed confusion or reservation due to the complexity.

FitFortDanga posted:

Stuff.
This is basically just a polite suggestion/minor daily discussion. If you're not interested in the film, don't watch it...it's basically a synthesis of Recommend Me, Rate the Latest Movie You've Seen and The Film Dump, to help goons find better movies.

The selection process is fairly easy, I think. If it's available online, it requires three votes. If it's not available online or it's for Movie of the Month, five votes. People can vote as often as they like. What's so wrong with that?

The focus of this isn't Movie of the Month-quality movies. More like exceptional minor gems that often go overlooked (i.e. Timecrimes). Also, it would cut down on flash-in-the-pan threads for movies like Pontypool, which captivated goons for a few days before disappearing into the nether.

Or, look at it this way: Take the Pontypool example. Cranking out a suggestion blurb takes less work than a whole OP, and a similar level of discussion will have happened, all with a reduced amount of clutter.

bad movie knight fucked around with this message at Nov 06, 2009 around 23:18

Peaceful Anarchy
Sep 18, 2005
sXe
I am the math man.



I think you're overestimating the potential participation. I watch a whole lot of movies but I've already got a huge list of what to watch, the problem here is not only that people will elect not to watch some movies, but that the ones they want to watch may fall on a day they can't. So potential participation will splinter heavily.

A weekly movie with one or two weeks notice would work much better. It gives people time to procure it and watch. Weeks start on Saturday with potential communal watching at 6PM PST and discussion continues for a week.

If we do stay with movie of the day then I think there'll be enough slots for everyone and I'm not really sure why the 3/5 vote rule is necessary, perhaps a second to a suggestion should be enough. Otherwise you're either going to not have enough votes or you're going to have people voting just to help each other out which would be the same end result as a single vote.

 bad movie knight
Dec 30, 2002




Peaceful Anarchy posted:

I think you're overestimating the potential participation. I watch a whole lot of movies but I've already got a huge list of what to watch, the problem here is not only that people will elect not to watch some movies, but that the ones they want to watch may fall on a day they can't. So potential participation will splinter heavily.

A weekly movie with one or two weeks notice would work much better. It gives people time to procure it and watch. Weeks start on Saturday with potential communal watching at 6PM PST and discussion continues for a week.

If we do stay with movie of the day then I think there'll be enough slots for everyone and I'm not really sure why the 3/5 vote rule is necessary, perhaps a second to a suggestion should be enough. Otherwise you're either going to not have enough votes or you're going to have people voting just to help each other out which would be the same end result as a single vote.
I agree with this. Look, I respect both of you and appreciate your contributions to the forum, but not everyone who visits the forum has a Netflix queue chock full of movies they want to watch, and I'm really trying to get outsiders/newcomers to have something they can get excited about, a reason to visit Cinema Discusso, if only for a brief recommendation.

There's really nothing to lose; at worst, it's a thread for you guys to ignore, at best it's a way to see some overlooked movies that other goons really, really like.

I will cut it down to seconding of a suggestion for everything, including Movie of the Month.

bad movie knight fucked around with this message at Nov 06, 2009 around 23:46

FitFortDanga
Nov 19, 2004

Nice try, asshole



Okay well, I'll give it a shot.

I haven't seen The Proposition, Forgotten Silver or The Housemaid but they all sound pretty good so I'll second those (although I probably won't have time to watch any of them soon).

I'll submit Linda Linda Linda:



Year: 2005
Genre: Coming-of-age dramedy/musical
Country: Japan
iMDB Netflix Auteurs trailer (no subs on trailer)

Plot:

Netflix posted:

It's three days before the big school talent show and Kyoto, Kei and Nozumi are in a fix when their lead singer quits over artistic differences. Their only candidate to fill the spot is a Korean foreign exchange student who can barely speak any Japanese. Time for some all-night rehearsals! Directed by Nobuhiro Yamashita and featuring a score by former Smashing Pumpkins member James Iha, this lighthearted comedy stars Du-na Bae and Yu Kashii.




My review:

Completely charming. The Japanese really seem to get it right when it comes to films about adolescence/young adulthood. The protagonists of Linda Linda Linda are fully-formed, normal individuals who are treated with dignity. No histrionics, no madcap adventures, no embarassing existential brooding. They're wholly genuine teenagers, very sympathetic in their everyday struggles, negotiating the social minefield that is high school. One thing I look for in a movie is strong characterization, and this movie has it in spades. These four girls have wonderful, distinct personalities, without ever being reduced to a single character trait. There isn't "the sassy one" or "the slutty one"... there's Kei, Son, Kyoko and Nozomi, and each one feels entirely like a real person. This is such an enjoyable movie, simple in its premise and executed without much flash, but richly rewarding. And the music (including the James Iha score) is dynamite, too.

 bad movie knight
Dec 30, 2002




Hey, I just removed all seconding requirements, so now it's a race from when the thread is opened until we're full each week; I'll try to stagger it to make it fair for everyone, and make sure no one goon gets a disproportionate number of slots.

Peaceful Anarchy
Sep 18, 2005
sXe
I am the math man.



bad movie knight posted:

There's really nothing to lose; at worst, it's a thread for you guys to ignore, at best it's a way to see some overlooked movies that other goons really, really like.

I'm good with this. And I don't want to make it sound like I'm not interested in participating, I just want to make sure it gets off the ground and doesn't stall like the Two Week movie did. I'll definitely try to watch at least one a week.

I'll second Linda Linda Linda.

Also to clarify something. Since there's a weekly thread, am I correct in assuming that discussion of all the films for a week will be interspersed throughout the thread and the days really just refer to the day for the 8PM communal watching?

 bad movie knight
Dec 30, 2002




Peaceful Anarchy posted:

I'm good with this. And I don't want to make it sound like I'm not interested in participating, I just want to make sure it gets off the ground and doesn't stall like the Two Week movie did. I'll definitely try to watch at least one a week.

I'll second Linda Linda Linda.

Also to clarify something. Since there's a weekly thread, am I correct in assuming that discussion of all the films for a week will be interspersed throughout the thread and the days really just refer to the day for the 8PM communal watching?
Pretty much. I'd like the majority of discussion to happen on the scheduled day, but it's a laid-back thread, and I don't mind if discussion overlaps. Creating a weekly thread is just to kind of keep that week's discussion contained, if that makes sense.

Peaceful Anarchy
Sep 18, 2005
sXe
I am the math man.



bad movie knight posted:

Pretty much. I'd like the majority of discussion to happen on the scheduled day, but it's a laid-back thread, and I don't mind if discussion overlaps. Creating a weekly thread is just to kind of keep that week's discussion contained, if that makes sense.
I think allowing the discussion to overlap would be a good idea, so as to encourage people to participate even if they can't watch it on a particular day. Also, if the communal watching gets anywhere, I'd expect discussion to actually occur on the following day since more people will have seen it then. I guess it'll depend on how fast moving the thread actually becomes.

I'd also suggest not closing the thread after the week so that if people want to continue discussions they can.



Edit: For the Hanyo Auteurs link you should put (free) beside the link so people know it's one of the free movies.

Peaceful Anarchy fucked around with this message at Nov 07, 2009 around 00:27

MAJOR STRYkER
Jan 02, 2008

FIFTY THOUSAND PEOPLE USED TO LIVE HERE...

Where is the discussion thread? I couldn't wait and watched Proposition already heh. Also I have a suggestion but I'm going to have to re-watch the movie again first so I can tell you what it is about.

 bad movie knight
Dec 30, 2002




MAJOR STRYkER posted:

Where is the discussion thread? I couldn't wait and watched Proposition already heh. Also I have a suggestion but I'm going to have to re-watch the movie again first so I can tell you what it is about.
It'll be posted next week.

Bacon55555
Jan 21, 2008

Desert Heat? I thought it was Dessert Heat. No wonder it tastes so bad.



Kontroll

IMDB
Netflix
Trailer
Year: 2003
Running Time: 106 minutes
Country: Hungary

Netflix posted:

In the dismal world of the Budapest subway system, ticket inspector Bulcsú (Sándor Csányi) and his crew cope with everything from freeloaders to a hooded killer, while reaffirming their ability to survive each day by engaging in competitions with other crews. First-time director Nimród Antal helms this Hungarian box office smash hit and winner of the Prix de la Jeunes award at the 2004 Cannes Film Festival.

FitFortDanga
Nov 19, 2004

Nice try, asshole



Since the Taste-stapo thread got gassed, I'll re-use my recommendation here:

The Emperor's Naked Army Marches On



Year: 1987
Genre: Documentary
Country: Japan

allmovie posted:

The Emperor’s Naked Army Marches On is a brilliant exploration of memory and war guilt, a subject often ignored in modern Japan. In this controversial documentary, Kazuo Hara follows Kenzo Okuzaki in his real-life struggle against Emperor Hirohito. He proudly declares that he shot BBs at the Royal Palace, distributed pornographic images of the Emperor, and once killed a man for the sake of his strange crusade. As the film progresses, Okuzaki reveals a gruesome mystery: why were some Japanese officers killing their own soldiers during WWII? What happened to their bodies? Okuzaki begs, cajoles, and occasionally beats the story out of elderly veterans. When these old men do break down and talk, their testimonies are some of the most chilling, riveting descriptions of wartime desperation ever committed to film. In his desire to unearth these horrors, Okuzaki’s behavior grows increasingly extreme and bizarre. By the film’s end, Hara seems to ask whether the terrible nature of this buried incident is worth the violence of Okuzaki’s methods.

iMDB Netflix

My review:

me posted:

This documentary would make a perfect companion to Fires on the Plain. Kenzo Okuzaki is a man with a mission: to uncover the truth of what happened to two soldiers in his regiment just after the end of the war. As the story unfolds, it takes on a disturbing twist and speaks volumes about the horrors of war. But what really makes this film is Okuzaki, an unbelievable and compelling individual. He is utterly determined, and his confrontations are fueled by his fanatical righteousness, as well as his threats, and occasional acts, of violence ("I came here to beat you up"). The man is a whirlwind of paradox. He demands nothing less than total honesty from those he accuses, but thinks nothing of using stand-ins to pretend to be the relatives of the victims (when the relatives themselves aren't vigilant enough to keep up with his ardor). Even in the midst of a violent attack, he's cordial and humble, as if to say "I'm sorry, but this is what must be done". He's anti-authoritarian (he did prison time for firing a slingshot at Hirohito, and also for a murder which is never explained) and yet cooperative with the police. He's a hero and anti-hero, whose quest for justice is admirable and effective, but whose methods are highly questionable (though incredibly entertaining and riveting). Amazing and unforgettable. Rating: 9


I don't know if this is a viable choice, I'm guessing Netflix doesn't have that many copies. Some public libraries might have it. There are, of course, other ways....

FitFortDanga
Nov 19, 2004

Nice try, asshole



Oh, I'll also second Kontroll. I think it's a little overrated, but it's still good and this thread needs more action anyway.

penismightier
Dec 06, 2005

I've heard that you're a low-down Yankee liar.



I'll second the empire of naked people or whatever, because I've been meaning to watch it for forever.

penismightier
Dec 06, 2005

I've heard that you're a low-down Yankee liar.



Forbidden Planet

1956
Directed by Fred M. Wilcox
Science Fiction


Synopsis: A kind of interstellar adaptation of The Tempest. A spaceship checks up on the survivors of an earlier crashed vessel. They find a super-intelligent robot, the ruins of a civilization that reached god-like technological abilities, and some kind of a monster.





I picked this one because it's been a favorite of mine since childhood and, unlike most of those, actually gets more and more impressive each time I see it. It's beautiful - bright, vivid Cinemascope; surprisingly intelligent and witty; and has that keen sense of wonder that makes truly effective science fiction. It's got all of the virtues of gee-whiz 50s scifi without most of the pitfalls (most - there's some misogyny). It's the kind of movie that just misses Movie of the Month material, but is absolutely essential viewing.


IMDb (7.8/10) | Rotten Tomatoes (94%)

Bacon55555
Jan 21, 2008

Desert Heat? I thought it was Dessert Heat. No wonder it tastes so bad.



I can second Forbidden Planet. It will give me enough of a reason to watch it again and it is pretty awesome.

FitFortDanga
Nov 19, 2004

Nice try, asshole



Love it. I've seen Forbidden Planet at least 5 times, but I don't currently own it because I'm still waiting for a Blu-Ray release (loving WHEN?)

Peaceful Anarchy
Sep 18, 2005
sXe
I am the math man.



The Emperor's Naked Army Marches On is loving fantastic, such a strange setup for a documentary and it works really well.

 bad movie knight
Dec 30, 2002




Hmm...I'm not seeing anywhere with Forbidden Planet available. It's even marked to save on Netflix.

Yabanjin
Feb 13, 2007

Saving the world, one stereotype at a time!

First of all, thanks for making this thread. The taste-apo thread was a little intimidating to me, as I am rather new to participating in the Cinema forum. I really like the theme of this thread, however, and look forward to watching as many recommendations as I can. Anyway, without further ado, my recommendation (there's a glut of Japanese movies here, but this is the one I wanted to recommend):

Onibaba (1964)
Director: Kaneto Shindô

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0058430/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5mFJGSbdYs

(I don't recommend watching the trailer unless you want to get a feeling for the movie, because it gives away too much.)

Akutogawa Ryonosuke is regarded as the one of the best writers of Japanese classical literature, if not the greatest. The imagary of his writing was viceral and engaging, and held you fixed in your imagination. One of his most famous stories was "Kumo no ito", which involves a spider's weblike thread decending into a pit that leads to hell. A thief climbs the web to escape from hell, but when others try to climb as well he becomes afraid that the slender thread might break, and starts yelling for everyone to get off, demonstrating his selfishness in trying to save himself. At that moment, the strand breaks, sending everyone back to hell.



While this movie is not directly related to the story above, the central theme of a pit leading to hell, the rope leading out, and the corruption of the soul through reliance on animal-like desires is central to this movie. The dark pit that contains the bodies of the unfortunate dead who have been slain by the movie's main characters is ominous and ever-present throughout the movie, almost becoming one of the main characters itself with its ability to foment a sense of dread upon the viewers. It is a place of death and malicious intentions, and the filmaker is fixated on its brooding nature. It is also hidden in rush reeds, disguising its true nature until it is too late.

The cinematography is at once beautiful and yet desolate in nature. The imagery is evocative and symbolic - reeds mirror the characters emotions, moving more frantically as the character's emotions begin to race. It is also adept at showing the ugliness of a people who are forced to do whatever they can just to make it to the next day.

This movie is film noire. There is no clear "hero", and every character has any many flaws. The line between good and evil is blurred beyond all recognition. There is a prize to be sought but once it is within grasp, it is not what it once seemed to be. Actions are taken out of pure selfishness, but in a world that has been torn apart by war and famine, selfishness is an act of preservation. This is a world where only those who live by their wits will survive, and might is overcome by guile. Civilization, at least in the remote areas, no longer exists and those who survive are ruled by rawest of emotions, lust and greed. Samurai with all of their martial training are no match for savages such as these. There is also the theme of sex, and its connection to power, and how it can destroy everything with its unyielding grip.



But this is also a horror movie. The other central symbol of the film is the mask of the demon. It is an object of evil, and those who use it are doomed to suffer misfortune. In typical Japanese fashion, this is not a horror movie with monsters prowling about, but a movie about how the horror bought upon the victims is something that they have to live with, as opposed to typical hollywood horror movies where the victims are summarily dismissed and don't have to live with what has happened. Eventually, one of the main characters is transformed into the demon by their own desire, or so they believe. The transformation is more psychological than physical, not unlike a Japanese version of Norman Bates. As time goes on the psychological begins to take over the physical without the host of the demon realizing it. It is the corruption of man unchecked by carnal desires that causes the destruction of the human soul.



The films ending is the payoff that will leave you thinking. Some people hate movies that leave you with more questions than answers, but if the questions are thought-provoking, then the filmaker has done his job. Many people complain that the shortcoming of film as a media is its inability to challenge the viewer to use their own imagination. Yet, when you have an ending such as this, it seems easy to refute such claims. No ending can be better than the one you make for yourself.

This movie may be hard to get outside of Japan, but it seems to be on Netflix. Also Criterion has made a DVD of it, as well.

Jay Dub
Jul 27, 2009


I'll second Onibaba; it's a great, creepy film. I really love the way Shindo shoots the grassy marshes, particularly the night scenes.

Bacon55555
Jan 21, 2008

Desert Heat? I thought it was Dessert Heat. No wonder it tastes so bad.



Drive-In Nomination
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Plan 9 From Outer Space

IMDB
Netflix
Year: 1959
Running Time: 78 minutes
Country: USA
Genre:Horror, Sci-fi, Bad

netflix posted:

After the embarrassing failure of the first eight plans, a group of evil aliens enacts plan nine -- resurrecting the dead to take over the Earth. Bela Lugosi makes his final film appearance -- along with Vampira, Tor Johnson, Criswell and a chiropractor acquaintance of director Ed Wood -- in one of the most popular cult classics of the 20th century, a two-time winner of the Golden Turkey Award for Worst Film and Worst Director of all time.

This is the definitive classic in terrible awesome movies, and I figure that this should be a nice and easy way to start up the endless movie festival for the Drive-Ins.

mod sassinator
Dec 13, 2006


This might make a good drive in movie, Cheerleader Ninjas available on Hulu. I haven't seen it but it looks bad:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUWK15uwE0U

Peaceful Anarchy
Sep 18, 2005
sXe
I am the math man.



Come on, surely we can get more suggestions in here. I just realized these don't have to be obscure movies so I'm going to recommend one I'm sure many of us have seen.

Dr. Strangelove This should be available everywhere, and frankly you should probably own it because it's a fantastic film that's also a lot of fun to watch. Dark comedy at it's best, Peter Sellers plays several characters as the world races towards an unstoppable nuclear war. If you've seen it this is a great chance to watch it again and if you haven't then you can rectify that. I really hope participation picks up because this really would be a lot of fun to watch together.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

what you tryna kick knowledge?


Onibaba is incredible. I haven't seen that movie in a long while, but I remember being awestruck at how stylish it was.

Slvbarek
Apr 08, 2006

Bring in the logic probe!



I present the underrated animated classic, Batman: Mask of the Phantasm. IMDB - Netflix
Year: 1993
Genre: Action/Mystery
Running Time: 76 minutes



Made in the wake of the success of the animated series of unparalleled quality, this film not only captures the essence of the Batman mythos, but is one of the best examples of film noir from the 90s. It is, in my humble nostalgia-biased opinion, better than The Dark Knight.



The film uses a non-linear narrative, showing scenes from Bruce Wayne's vigilante origins while also weaving an intricate mystery around the Phantasm, a murdering ghostly villain who is framing Batman for his crimes. Shirley Walker's music is brilliant as always; her themes trump those of Danny Elfman's for me.



The voice of Kevin Conroy makes for a perfect Batman, while Mark Hamill's Joker masterfully blends hilarity with insanity.



As with the TV show, the environments were painted on a black canvas to give Gotham City its dark, moody atmosphere.



It shows why he is truly the greatest of superheroes, and also why his loneliness is an unfortunate inevitability.

Need more convincing? How about approval from the Dynamic Duo of critics: Siskel and Ebert's Review.

It's on Netflix's Play It Now, it's only 76 minutes, and it's loving great. Please enjoy.

 bad movie knight
Dec 30, 2002




Added the most recent submissions.

Jay Dub
Jul 27, 2009


For our festival consideration, and your viewing pleasure:

The Hudsucker Proxy



Directed by: Joel & Ethan Coen
Length: 111 min. (for real, this time)
Genre: Screwball Comedy
Year: 1994
IMDb | Netflix Play it Now

The Coen Brothers' first crack at a big-time studio picture is, in a word, strange. Of course, calling any Coen film strange is kind of pointless. Anyway, after the president of Hudsucker Industries decides to shuffle himself loose the mortal coil...



...his second in command (Paul Newman) decides to drive the company into the ground in order to make bank on all of Hudsucker's leftover shares. Enter Norville Barnes (Tim Robbins), a business student fresh out of school looking to make a name for himself. Newman's character sees a ripe opportunity to destroy the company quick, and immediately hires Norville on as the new president of Hudsucker Industries.



Hijinks inevitably ensue.

Often overlooked in the Coen canon, The Hudsucker Proxy is easily one of my favorites. It features some really great, fun performances from Tim Robbins, Paul Newman, and Jennifer Jason Leigh, as well as brief appearances by Bruce Campbell and co-writer Sam Raimi. It's a well-played screwball riff on Frank Capra and I think it's one of their best looking flicks to boot.

Also, I'll second the hell out of Mask of the Phantasm. It is indeed the best Batman movie.

edited for syntax.

Jay Dub fucked around with this message at Nov 19, 2009 around 05:16

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