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clearly not a horse
May 08, 2009

undue butt brutality is not a criminal offense


After having read a thread in GBS about invites to Google Wave, the much anticipated piece of Googletech, I am convinced that there are some goons out here with opinions about it.

I have dug up this link for those who have no clue as to what this Google Wave is.

I want to know a little about the features, how they can prove useful for studying and collaborating between students. How broad is the possibilities of Wave and how does it live up to the expectations? Really, I just want to know of your experiences with Wave.

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Noni
Jul 08, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 461 hours!


Google Wave should just be integrated directly into Gmail. It's stupid that it isn't.

x TOMMYBOY x
Jan 15, 2008
I'm deeply pathetic! :-D


Noni posted:

Google Wave should just be integrated directly into Gmail. It's stupid that it isn't.

This seems to be very true from my first impressions. It does seem nice, however it seems like a natural progression/evolution/addition to Gmail, not something that needs to be separate.

That being said, I do not completely comprehend it and would like it if someone gave a nice rundown on it

Dominoes
Sep 20, 2007

I AM SCUM IN AMERICA THE BEAUTIFUL MAFIA

Love, the Cop


It's a non-chronological chat program, I think. I have it, have read the SH/SC tread and watched the videos, but still don't get it.

 Earwicker
Jan 06, 2003

and to Babylon the golden.


Noni posted:

Google Wave should just be integrated directly into Gmail. It's stupid that it isn't.

I'm guessing it will be (to some extent anyway) once its more widespread

It's not so much a "chat" program as it is a real-time collaborative document editing program. Which is pretty cool for certain kinds of projects but not as useful for casual chatting.

I have an account, but I don't have any invites yet, so barely anyone I know is on there, so there's not much to do. Once I'm able to invite friends it will probably be a lot more interesting

maddison
Nov 24, 2007

What the hell am I doing here?


I have an account, and have played with it with a friend for a bit. It was fun to play with. I'm hard pressed to see what niche it fills though, where it's practical in my daily life.

Google Docs is already great for collaborative document work.
Google talk is already great for instant messaging.

The social-networky features, doing searches and reading public waves.... doesn't seem that useful to me either.


It just feels like google wave is trying to do a lot of things at once which, I feel, are better done with other applications already.

Terrible Horse
Apr 27, 2004
:I

maddison posted:

I have an account, and have played with it with a friend for a bit. It was fun to play with. I'm hard pressed to see what niche it fills though, where it's practical in my daily life.

Google Docs is already great for collaborative document work.
Google talk is already great for instant messaging.

The social-networky features, doing searches and reading public waves.... doesn't seem that useful to me either.


It just feels like google wave is trying to do a lot of things at once which, I feel, are better done with other applications already.

This is how I feel. Plus, when you get a long wave going with lots of rich media, it basically brings your browser to its knees.

Its a great idea though, and people will find uses for it in time, as its tweaked and perfected.

keykey
Mar 28, 2003
dyslexic typist with tourettes


It was neat to play with for an hour or two but I don't see it becoming a part of my daily routine. Much like most of googles offerings besides maps and of coarse the search engine.

xie
Jul 29, 2004

If you liked it, then you shoulda put a ring on it.


You guys are criticizing what is essentially a tech demo as if it's a final product.

If you use email at all, wave would be an improvement. Collaborative document editing with Google docs is alright, but real time editing with revision history would be a lot better.

It's not a chat room, but because nobody has it on a wide scale yet, that's all people are generally using it for.

Imagine running business meetings that anyone can join in late on and not have to be recapped. Questions asked via email would be visible to all, rather than Joe and Jim both emailing the same few questions.

Fausdinotoly
Jun 17, 2005

OH GOD HES RIGHT BEHI

I am under the impression that most of the benefits of using google wave are mainly for office/workplace use.

 Earwicker
Jan 06, 2003

and to Babylon the golden.


Fausdinotoly posted:

I am under the impression that most of the benefits of using google wave are mainly for office/workplace use.

Yeah, I can see a ton of great uses, if everyone on my team at work were on Wave. But until then it's fairly useless. Seems rolling it out in this way is a bit problematic - I understand that they need to make sure it works properly for the number of people on it and it's still in "preview" mode etc. - but still at a basic level, a tool for collaborating on projects with a team isn't going to be of much use unless the whole team has access to the tool.

Earwicker fucked around with this message at Nov 06, 2009 around 20:30

Twinnie
Jul 17, 2005
Lookin' goooood!

Wave is a more complicated version of Gmail with a 50% chance of disconnecting you just before you try to send something.

Noni
Jul 08, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 461 hours!


Twinnie posted:

Wave is a more complicated version of Gmail with a 50% chance of disconnecting you just before you try to send something.

That's actually a feature. It's known as "drowning in the wave." After observing such phenomena as the retarded comments people leave on youtube, post on message boards, or tweet on twitter, Google decided that its users should take more care in what messages they "float in the wave." Thus there's a small chance that the message will be forever lost at sea. If your message was indeed worth posting, then Google figures that you will probably rewrite it and try again! If, on seeing that your message was lost, you realize that you were posting nothing but idiotic bullshit and that it's not worth another go, then Google has done it's job.

Nathilus
Apr 04, 2002


Is that a joke? I sometimes have a hard time telling these days. If it's not, that's the worst feature ever.

Catenoid
Mar 03, 2008


I only care if they implement LaTeX support.

Yarrbossa
Mar 19, 2008


Catenoid posted:

I only care if they implement LaTeX support.

Hear hear! Wave would be amazing for some research I'm doing, but it's a bitch to try and type out equations without LaTeX(a problem I currently have with using a Google Site to collaborate. I'm sure someone would develop a gadget for it pretty quickly at least.

Cicero
Dec 17, 2003

Jumpjet, melta, jumpjet. Repeat for ten minutes or until victory is assured.

Email has had decades to become mature, even if Wave succeeds it's not like it's going to be super awesome and stable immediately, there's a reason they're giving out invites at a very measured pace right now. Criticizing it for instability now is like critizing DVD players for originally costing over a thousand dollars. Plus, part of the appeal is that people can add functionality via robots, so as more robots are created by coders, the more useful Wave itself becomes.

EDIT: It's like Steam or the App Store in that it's not just a protocol but also a platform, so just like Steam wasn't very useful when it was first launched but then became very useful, so shall it be with Wave.

QuartzImage
Feb 01, 2009


Pretty much agreeing with above, Wave is next to useless now, but as other sites will inevitably adopt its usage for no REAL reason other than that its the "Cool New Thing The Web 5.7 Kids Are Doing These Days" it will become obvious and we will wonder what we did without it.



Generic History of Technology Adoption:

Google Wave? I dont need it, I have Gmail and AIM.

Twitter? Why would I use that when I have Facebook?

Facebook? Why would I use that when I have MySpace?

MySpace? Why would I use that when I have GeoCities?

AIM? Why would I use that when I have ICQ?

ICQ? Why would I use that when I have IRC?

IRC? How this help ogg use stick to cook meat in fire?

Fire? How ogg make fire?

WHAT ARE ? ! OGG USE ONLY !

LOOK HOW OGG USIN CAPSLOCK

ryanmfw
Aug 06, 2005

Hebrew Hammer

Yarrbossa posted:

Hear hear! Wave would be amazing for some research I'm doing, but it's a bitch to try and type out equations without LaTeX(a problem I currently have with using a Google Site to collaborate. I'm sure someone would develop a gadget for it pretty quickly at least.

Time for a Wave Robot!

RegisteredJustNow
Oct 01, 2009


I've got the wave. I see it as a hybrid between a forum and a chat with more features. It's pretty handy when holding meetings or discussions over long periods. You get the permanence of a thread, and the aspects of live chat. I like it.

Also this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcxF...player_embedded

The ability to embed things and keep them around makes it pretty handy in my opinion. You can call votes in the middle of a wave, which again makes it nice for meetings. There are other features that wave has that forums don't, and more are being developed. As for the functionality - it's in beta - can you blame it right now?

Edit:

clearly not a horse posted:

I want to know a little about the features, how they can prove useful for studying and collaborating between students.

I think it would be useful for a student study/collaboration/meetings.

RegisteredJustNow fucked around with this message at Nov 10, 2009 around 02:13

DjirtyZ
Feb 03, 2006

Musk Ox! Get your Musk Ox! (seriously, I sell musk oxes)

Noni posted:

That's actually a feature. It's known as "drowning in the wave." After observing such phenomena as the retarded comments people leave on youtube, post on message boards, or tweet on twitter, Google decided that its users should take more care in what messages they "float in the wave." Thus there's a small chance that the message will be forever lost at sea. If your message was indeed worth posting, then Google figures that you will probably rewrite it and try again! If, on seeing that your message was lost, you realize that you were posting nothing but idiotic bullshit and that it's not worth another go, then Google has done it's job.

Originally foretold in the prophecies, mmmYes?

Nathilus posted:

Is that a joke? I sometimes have a hard time telling these days. If it's not, that's the worst feature ever.

A joke? Surely it is you who jest.

Aidrocsid
Jan 15, 2006

We're out of mustard.

Wave is going to be amazing once it gets a decent user-base. It's most useful for collaborative projects, but I could see it being a powerful social networking tool too. With the bots integrating it with other services I don't see how it won't explode with popularity. I really feel like this is going to change the face of the internet when it begins to reach its full potential.

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