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Yaos
Feb 22, 2003

She is a cat of significant gravy.

It's 1999, the Dreamcast is about to obliterate all the competition and Microsoft is one year away from taking over the world with Windows ME; or will they? The register has an article about how 2000 would be the year Linux would defeat Windows; simply because in the future people won't need to buy computers!
http://www.theregister.co.uk/1999/0...ux_could_screw/

Thanks to the Easy PC standard, computers will be so cheap that ISP's will be giving them away with your subscription! Linux has no cost, so it keeps the price down as low as possible. They just can't see how Windows will be able to compete in this market, after all, most people won't want a computer that can do anything more than browse the web.

If you watched TechTV back in the day they really loved these things despite never having seen one, back then Web Appliances seemed to be the way to go. If you're pumping millions into websites that don't make money you'll certainly want to waste whatever you have left on computers that are only able to view those websites. I'm not sure how they determined people would only want web access 10 years, considering today you can't do everything on the web.

What failed hardware or software predictions, or just failed hardware or software, do you remember fondly?

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JnnyThndrs
May 29, 2001

HERE ARE THE FUCKING TOWELS

"We're never gonna need more than 640K of memory"

d3rt
Jul 11, 2004
I'm not racist, I hate everyone

NES Power glove

Xenomorph
Jun 13, 2001

Serious Hardware


JnnyThndrs posted:

"We're never gonna need more than 640K of memory"

When was this ever said, really?

I've seen this line a million times, and I'm surprised people don't give Curt Cobain credit for it.

BangersInMyKnickers
Nov 03, 2004

I have an oral fixation and it's not the sexy kind

Xenomorph posted:

When was this ever said, really?

I've seen this line a million times, and I'm surprised people don't give Curt Cobain credit for it.

It actually came from Bill Gates in reference to bumping up the maximum about of allocatable memory on the 8086 from its 64k to 640k with the subsequent processors. He thought at the time that would be enough address space to last the computing field 10 years without problems.

BangersInMyKnickers fucked around with this message at Nov 06, 2009 around 21:41

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006
Fun size snacks.

Xenomorph posted:

When was this ever said, really?

Probably some IBM PC Engineer back in 1979. If I remember you could get the full 1MB upgrade kits for the PC not too soon after it came out. Probably cost some insane amount of money. But most users got by fine with 640k all the way up until the 486 days. Wasn't really until Windows 386 came out that systems with 4MB etc became that popular.

The Sponge
Sep 15, 2006



Xenomorph posted:

When was this ever said, really?

I've seen this line a million times, and I'm surprised people don't give Curt Cobain credit for it.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=need+more+than+640K

There was a wearable computer fad, also: "Everyone will own a PDA by 2001". Took years for that to happen and is finally slowly starting to happen with smartphones.

Alereon
Feb 06, 2004

For me but LEFTHANDED

BangersInMyKnickers posted:

It actually came from Bill Gates in reference to bumping up the maximum about of allocatable memory on the 8086 from its 64k to 640k with the subsequent processors. He thought at the time that would be enough address space to last the computing field 10 years without problems.
He never actually said it though, it was probably a joke someone thought up at some point.

Xenomorph
Jun 13, 2001

Serious Hardware


BangersInMyKnickers posted:

It actually came from Bill Gates in reference to bumping up the maximum about of allocatable memory on the 8086 from its 64k to 640k with the subsequent processors. He thought at the time that would be enough address space to last the computing field 10 years without problems.

Really?

Bob Morales posted:

Probably some IBM PC Engineer back in 1979. If I remember you could get the full 1MB upgrade kits for the PC not too soon after it came out. Probably cost some insane amount of money. But most users got by fine with 640k all the way up until the 486 days. Wasn't really until Windows 386 came out that systems with 4MB etc became that popular.

Really?


Really?

Like Alereon said, no one ever said 640K was enough. No one ever said "We're never gonna need more than 640K of memory". And Bill Gates never said "640K ought to be enough for anybody."

It's hardly a "hardware/software predictions that did not pan out" when it never was a prediction, just some stupid Fwd: Fw: Fwd: Snopes poo poo repeated all the time.


Avenging Dentist
Oct 01, 2005

oh my god is that a circular saw that does not go in my mouth aaaaagh

Yaos posted:

It's 1999, the Dreamcast is about to obliterate all the competition and Microsoft is one year away from taking over the world with Windows ME; or will they? The register has an article about how 2000 would be the year Linux would defeat Windows; simply because in the future people won't need to buy computers!
http://www.theregister.co.uk/1999/0...ux_could_screw/

The best part is that the article mentions BeOS.

Namlemez
Jul 09, 2003


That everyone was going to love this 3D card:

http://www.x86-secret.com/articles/...00/v56kgb-6.htm

BlackMK4
Aug 23, 2006
ohgod

Namlemez posted:

That everyone was going to love this 3D card:

http://www.x86-secret.com/articles/...00/v56kgb-6.htm
This card was ahead of the times in a lot of ways - look at current gaming cards. Huge, external power, multiple cores, etc

JnnyThndrs
May 29, 2001

HERE ARE THE FUCKING TOWELS

Xenomorph posted:

It's hardly a "hardware/software predictions that did not pan out" when it never was a prediction, just some stupid Fwd: Fw: Fwd: Snopes poo poo repeated all the time.

Goddamnit, you could suck the fun out of a wet dream

The other prediction that comes to mind were hybrid magnetic/SSD hard drives - they were supposed to be the NEXT BIG THING and ended up a footnote in the history books.

HalloKitty
Sep 30, 2005

less faggotry, more rs4.

Yaos posted:

It's 1999, the Dreamcast is about to obliterate all the competition

It did in my heart

Panzerschwein
May 08, 2009

sboobs


I'm going to go with spoken commands. Back in the old days all the visions of the future involved people telling the computer in spoken English what to do. The computing power and software are pretty much able to handle it now, but it's really a pretty clumsy way of doing most things unless you're blind or something.

Christobevii3
Jul 03, 2006


http://www.neoseeker.com/news/272-a...rbo-sound-card/

quote:

the new Turbo DSP module, the SQ3500 is the only sound card that can accelerate Aureal;s new A3D 3.0 3D audio;the most immersive 3D audio available on the PC. The SQ3500 also enables new features including studio-quality reverb effects and Dolby Digital playback.

Creative then sued them to bankruptcy and burried their tech till the xifi came out. Then microsoft took the sound card out of the kernel. Advancement!

anotherone
Feb 08, 2001
Username taken, please choose another one

quote:

No wireless. Less space than a nomad. Lame.
(Slashdot on the release of the iPod)

In a lot of ways this was valid in 2001, but it was incredibly shortsighted.

Weinertron
Jan 17, 2009


Pentium 4 clock scaling. Intel had originally planned to carry the architecture to 6GHz and beyond before running abruptly into the wall of physics. I'm searching for an article about early Pentium 4 clock scaling predictions, but for now enjoy this article:

http://news.cnet.com/Intel-kills-pl..._3-5409816.html

Personally, I would rather have a 16GHz Pentium 4 single core than the E8400 in the machine I'm on at the moment.

Edit: Apparently Intel's announced plans for the Netburst architecture was 10GHz by 2006. A 10GHz P4 would kick the crap out of the Conroes, even at 2.8GHz.

Weinertron fucked around with this message at Nov 07, 2009 around 04:47

Casao
Dec 25, 2005


Weinertron posted:

Edit: Apparently Intel's announced plans for the Netburst architecture was 10GHz by 2006. A 10GHz P4 would kick the crap out of the Conroes, even at 2.8GHz.

It would also require your own personal nuclear power plant and a dedicated air conditioner to handle.

madprocess
Sep 23, 2004

Method to the madness or madness to the method?


One word:

Ensign Expendable
Nov 11, 2008


Oh god, RAMBUS was a terrible idea.

Cybikos failed pretty horribly. I thought those things were the poo poo back when they first came out, before everyone over the age of 7 had a cellphone.

anotherone
Feb 08, 2001
Username taken, please choose another one

Ensign Expendable posted:

Oh god, RAMBUS was a terrible idea.

Cybikos failed pretty horribly. I thought those things were the poo poo back when they first came out, before everyone over the age of 7 had a cellphone.

hahaha oh man I wanted a Cybiko so badly. One guy I knew had one and I didn't even really like him but the idea that we could send messages back and forth in class was amazing. Now kids are all texting, they don't realize how good they have it...

Weinertron
Jan 17, 2009


I found an amazing article from 2004 about how Windows Longhorn would include built in support for HD-DVD, which looks more likely to win the HD format race because of their support from the DVD forum.

http://arstechnica.com/old/content/2004/07/4034.ars

As Nero Danced
Sep 03, 2009


madprocess posted:

One word:



I have some RD-Ram still in my closet from an old Dell I gutted. I guess I should put it on ebay or SA Mart, but for some reason it's still there. At least it holds its value well (though it's really worth poo poo. It's just expensive because it was abandoned.)

Standish
May 21, 2001



iKickDogs
Aug 31, 2001



Avenging Dentist posted:

The best part is that the article mentions BeOS.

BeOS was wonderful. I sincerely miss it.

Grey Area
Sep 09, 2000
Battle Without Honor or Humanity

Holographic storage is the "nuclear fusion is 20 years away" of IT.

Also, fuel cell powered laptops.

The Sponge
Sep 15, 2006



Xenomorph posted:

Really?


Really?


Really?

Like Alereon said, no one ever said 640K was enough. No one ever said "We're never gonna need more than 640K of memory". And Bill Gates never said "640K ought to be enough for anybody."

It's hardly a "hardware/software predictions that did not pan out" when it never was a prediction, just some stupid Fwd: Fw: Fwd: Snopes poo poo repeated all the time.

Bill Gates made billions. Let me have my fun.

Also, someone today I was chatting with used the term "paperless office".

MrMoo
Sep 14, 2000


madprocess posted:

One word:



The hardware was nice, it's just that too much corporate greed got in the way for it to work.

rolleyes
Nov 16, 2006


As Nero Danced posted:

I have some RD-Ram still in my closet from an old Dell I gutted. I guess I should put it on ebay or SA Mart, but for some reason it's still there. At least it holds its value well (though it's really worth poo poo. It's just expensive because it was abandoned.)

Depending on how much you've got you can get a reasonable amount on ebay for RDRAM. The same applies to any old memory tech except for the generation immediately prior to the current one. I'm currently selling 2x1GB of DDR1 and it's at £30 with a day and a half to go. A new kit of the same amount costs about £75 - the same I paid for 2x2GB of DDR3.

Heresiarch
Oct 06, 2005

There is a concept which corrupts and upsets all others. I refer not to Evil, whose limited realm is that of ethics; I refer to the infinite.

I argued extensively that Apple would never switch to Intel due to software compatibility issues.

Setzer Gabbiani
Oct 13, 2004



Namlemez posted:

That everyone was going to love this 3D card:

http://www.x86-secret.com/articles/...00/v56kgb-6.htm

Voodoo 1-3 3DFX and 4-5 3DFX were absolutely night and day

When ATI and nVidia got their poo poo together and ditched the Rage and Riva for the Radeon and GeForce, 3DFX had absolutely nothing to compete with, not even the unreleased V5 (which according to a prototype, still couldn't keep up). Had 3DFX gone the route of developing a single efficient, but powerful, GPU, instead of cramming 2-4 lovely ones onto one card, they might have lasted longer, but a merger of any kind was still bound to happen

3DFX still mostly relied on Glide and optimizing the gently caress out of certain games to keep their performance crown, which in some cases meant cutting corners on graphics quality, something the competition was being rather unforgiving on. I think they got too comfy with their dominance around the V3 era and got lazy, and I highly doubt that even if they planned ahead, would have the ability to make a single-chip card that would be able to compete with the Radeon and GeForce

If you ever wonder what the V5 6000 would've been like, someone got their hands on a prototype

http://www.sudhian.com/index.php?/a...tting_the_stage

Mill Town
Apr 17, 2006



Still waiting for my Apple tablet. It's gonna be announced any day now, I hear.

Mad Hamish
Jun 15, 2008


Weinertron posted:

I found an amazing article from 2004 about how Windows Longhorn would include built in support for HD-DVD, which looks more likely to win the HD format race because of their support from the DVD forum.

http://arstechnica.com/old/content/2004/07/4034.ars

I read fairly recently in a Sams textbook on CSS that Windows Longhorn would prevent the installation of any non-IE web browser. I wish I could remember which one so I could provide the quote.

LaptopGun
Sep 02, 2006

All I'm going to get out of him is a snappy one-liner and, if I'm real lucky, a brand new nickname.

Duke Nukem Forever would ship on time, use the Quake... I mean Quake 2... I mean Unreal... I mean a heavily costumizedUnreal... I mean its own groundbreaking graphics engine, and be the game of the decade (which decade?). Sorry to everyone that didnt turn out.

Also the Dreamcast version of Half Life would save the Dreamcast. All new graphics, promise of Counterstrike, and the exclusive Blue Shift expansion. The game was done but Valve took 1 look at the declining fortunes of the system and decided to not release the game. Valve got a healthy tax write off instead.

Stuntman Mike
Apr 14, 2007
The saucer people are coming!

Mad Hamish posted:

I read fairly recently in a Sams textbook on CSS that Windows Longhorn would prevent the installation of any non-IE web browser. I wish I could remember which one so I could provide the quote.

I remember in the early Vista days that people were saying that IT STOPPED YOU FROM DOWNLOADING TORRENTS AND WAREZ MAGICALLY IN THE OS DON'T GET IT

Ensign Expendable
Nov 11, 2008


iKickDogs posted:

BeOS was wonderful. I sincerely miss it.

I once saw a copy of BeOS at the University of Toronto store for $50, among all the other things nobody every bought, like obsolete Red Hat books and Windows NT for Dummies.

Weird Uncle Dave
Sep 02, 2003

I could do this all day.

Generally, the whole notion that all the world needs is "one more specialized gadget" seems to have failed miserably, and good riddance. Examples: CueCat, a hand-held barcode reader; the American Express home smart-card reader.

Given those two examples, I wonder if "we can give the hardware away for free to everyone and figure out how to make money later" is actually the horribly silly prediction. (Amex gave their card readers away - I remember asking for one even though I never had an American Express card, and the CueCat was freely available at Radio Shack and I think Wired magazine sent all their subscribers one at some point.)

Ryokurin
Jul 14, 2001

Wanna Die?

Mad Hamish posted:

I read fairly recently in a Sams textbook on CSS that Windows Longhorn would prevent the installation of any non-IE web browser. I wish I could remember which one so I could provide the quote.

Blowback from the .net/palladium debacle. Nobody (even microsoft) was clear on what was what, so anything based off of .net was considered DRM. There's still people to this day that refuse to install anything with the .net framework because they think its palladium, and I still heard someone the other day say that the reason why Vista failed was because it wouldn't let you play mp3s and videos due to DRM.


Getting back on topic. I remember reading in Wired circa 1997 that bandwidth would eventually end up kind of like how long distance is now, essentially free. Unfortunately I'm going to be surprised if 10 years from now there will be a such thing as unlimited internet.

Illegibly Eligible
Jul 21, 2009


I heard tell that MOO3 was going to revolutionize how people thought about turn-based strategy games. Although I must admit that one was kind of accurate since it did. It killed the genre entirely.

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