Strikeforce: Fedor vs. Rogers GDT - An Artist vs. a Tire Salesman on CBS

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kensei: Dec 27, 2007; Non-addictive Personality

Strikeforce: Fedor vs. Rogers

wikipedia.org posted:

Strikeforce: Fedor vs. Rogers is an upcoming mixed martial arts event which is co-promoted by Strikeforce & M-1 Global, to be held on November 7, 2009 at the Sears Centre in Hoffman Estates, IL. The event will air live on CBS in the United States and will be streamed live on Omnisport.tv in all countries in which there is no exclusive television deal in place.

This card is on CBS live at 9 PM ET Saturday November 7th. It is tape delayed for the West Coast. ~~Sadly the treasured WAMMA belt is not being defended.~~ The WAMMA Belt is now being defended tonight!

Main card

Heavyweight bout:

Fedor Emelianenko, WAMMA and Pride Champion

(bonus Gegard Mousasi

)

vs.

Brett Rogers

Middleweight Championship bout:

Jake Shields

vs.

Jason Miller

Light Heavyweight bout:

Gegard Mousasi

vs.

Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou

Heavyweight bout:

Fabricio Werdum

vs.

Antonio Silva

Undercard

Women's bout (145-lb): Marloes Coenen vs. Roxanne Modafferi

Welterweight bout: Mark Miller vs. Deray Davis

Bantamweight bout: Jeff Curran vs. Dustin Neace

Middleweight bout: John Kolosci vs. Shamar Bailey

Middleweight bout: Louis Taylor vs. Nate Moore

Welterweight bout: Christian Uflacker vs. Jonatas Novaes

However, because it is not a PPV, we can have some links:

One

Two

Three

Four

Chat with goons in #mma on synirc.org

e: updated Fedor/Brett for Wamma belt.

kensei fucked around with this message at Nov 07, 2009 around 19:46

# ? Nov 07, 2009 00:48

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# ? Nov 21, 2009 04:17

kensei: Dec 27, 2007; Non-addictive Personality

Weigh in results, from Colonel Korn's awesome B-League Thread:

code:

MAIN CARD

* 265: Fedor Emelianenko (232) vs. Brett Rogers (264)
* 185: Jason "Mayhem" Miller (184) vs. Jake Shields (184.5)
* 205: Gegard Mousasi (205) vs. Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou (204)
* 265: Antonio Silva (263) vs. Fabricio Werdum (242)

PRELIMINARY CARD

* 145: Marloes Coenen (145) vs. Roxanne Modafferi (140)
* 170: Deray Davis (170.5) vs. Mark Miller (171)
* 135: Jeff Curran (145) vs. Dustin Neace (150.5)*
* 170: Shamar Bailey (170) vs. John Kolosci (171)
* 185: Nate Moore (184) vs. Louis Taylor (185.5)
* 155: Jonatas Novaes (155.5) vs. Christian Uflacker (156)

# ? Nov 07, 2009 00:50

Coitus_Interruptus: Feb 27, 2006; Because you are always by my side... I will fight!

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say we should avoid linking MMA-TV when SAS is public. I'd hate to lose that resource for MMA.

# ? Nov 07, 2009 01:05

cortXbomb: Jun 27, 2003; streetdoctors.com
Yes, we are hybrid rappers.

Fyodor over Rogers- Hilarity
Mayhem over Shields- Some kind of karate kick
Mousasi over Sokoudjou- Arm triangle
Werdum over Bigfoot- Armlock
Marloes Coenen vs. Roxanne Modafferi- I was going with Roxy but I saw Coenen do a rolling toe hold so Coenen by TEEP to rolling toe hold

kensei posted:

STREAMS

# ? Nov 07, 2009 01:30

fatherdog: Feb 16, 2005; I am HATED by EXTREMELY UNFUNNY posters

kensei posted:

Fedor Emelianenko, YAMMA and Pride Champion

King Mo is going to be very upset about your misattribution of his lineal YAMMA Championship

# ? Nov 07, 2009 01:33

Steve Winwood: Sep 22, 2009

Two fatties swinging like bums.

# ? Nov 07, 2009 01:35

POOR MANS HROLF: Apr 09, 2009; Drowning cannot hurt a man. Fire cannot hurt a man. Not the government man.

Fedor is not the Yamma champion he is the Wamma champion. Plus I hope you get banned for stream linking.

# ? Nov 07, 2009 01:36

cortXbomb: Jun 27, 2003; streetdoctors.com
Yes, we are hybrid rappers.

Also that team Mousasi Tony Montana logo shirt rules and I want to buy one.

# ? Nov 07, 2009 01:36

Bundt Cake: Aug 17, 2003; ;(

cortXbomb posted:

at least get the fucken delicate flower out of there you know jesus

# ? Nov 07, 2009 01:54

JiveHonky: May 12, 2001; fancy that. now.

Silva holds up the drawing so nice it got drawed twice.

# ? Nov 07, 2009 01:59

kensei: Dec 27, 2007; Non-addictive Personality

Coitus_Interruptus posted:

Link stuff

Good point.

# ? Nov 07, 2009 02:03

Wise Learned Man: Apr 22, 2008; 'Tis an ill wind that blows no minds.

So is there any way to catch the undercard, or are those matches just not being televised anywhere?

EDIT: Yeah, this is why I was curious. I was hoping Showtime would be airing them or something.
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Wise Learned Man fucked around with this message at Nov 07, 2009 around 02:11

# ? Nov 07, 2009 02:06

1st AD: Dec 03, 2004; Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu: sometimes passing just isn't an option.

Hope that someone near cageside brought a camera. The CBS/Showtime EXC and Strikeforce shows always have a ton of filler and promos when fights end early, instead of showing actual fights.

# ? Nov 07, 2009 02:09

Coitus_Interruptus: Feb 27, 2006; Because you are always by my side... I will fight!

kensei posted:

Good point.

Yes it is, but not mine. Fatherdog made the exact same point when I suggested we link those same things in a new K1 thread. He made a good case (usually does

)

cortXbomb posted:

Mayhem over Shields- Some kind of karate kick

You losing the picking edge son, Shields is gonna tap Mayhem.

# ? Nov 07, 2009 06:38

1st AD: Dec 03, 2004; Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu: sometimes passing just isn't an option.

Shields: I'm going to beat him standup.
Miller: I'm going to kick him in the face.

Reality: 5 rounds of grappling

# ? Nov 07, 2009 06:41

A Pale Horse: Jul 29, 2007; The most punches
The slickest subs
The dirtiest urine
Ain't no bitch

So picks I guess:

Fedor KO
Shields Decision
Gegard Submission
Werdum Submission
Coenen Decision

# ? Nov 07, 2009 17:22

Bundt Cake: Aug 17, 2003; ;(

Coitus_Interruptus posted:

You losing the picking edge son, Shields is gonna tap Mayhem.

i really really doubt this

# ? Nov 07, 2009 18:39

Whoa Now: Dec 20, 2008

CBS seems to have gone all out with promotion for this one , with all those 3 second late night commercials and the airing of the Fight Camp 360 at 2am last night.

# ? Nov 07, 2009 18:49

Bundt Cake: Aug 17, 2003; ;(

i performed an experiment where i would see if my dad would hear about strikeforce without me telling him. he didn't. i should probably tell him about it.

Bundt Cake fucked around with this message at Nov 07, 2009 around 18:59

# ? Nov 07, 2009 18:55

Droopy Goines: Aug 02, 2003; Presented in DTS ES 6.1 where available.

Picks :
Fedor - submission
Mayhem - decision
Gegard - KO
Werdum - decision

# ? Nov 07, 2009 19:00

Buforana: Feb 01, 2006; Is it a frog? Is it a toad?

- Fedor by quick armbar. Don't necessarily think the fight will end quickly, but I see Rogers somewhat clipping Fedor or pushing him down and making the mistake of pouncing straight into an armbar.
- Mousasi by round 2 KO. Close first few minutes, then Mousasi turns Sokoudjou into a punching bag.
- Shields by TKO in the waning seconds of round 3 CONTROVERSY ENSUES
- Werdum by decision

# ? Nov 07, 2009 19:21

El Roncho: Oct 15, 2006; The Texican

Saying Shields is going to sub Mayhem is pretty silly.

# ? Nov 07, 2009 19:31

1st AD: Dec 03, 2004; Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu: sometimes passing just isn't an option.

Saying Shields is gonna TKO Mayhem is even sillier.

# ? Nov 07, 2009 19:40

Buforana: Feb 01, 2006; Is it a frog? Is it a toad?

If Trigg can do it then I have faith any old metrosexual off the street could do it. Hence why I am picking Shields.

# ? Nov 07, 2009 19:47

kensei: Dec 27, 2007; Non-addictive Personality

POOR MANS HROLF posted:

Fedor is not the Yamma champion he is the Wamma champion.

You are right it's the WAMMA belt, not the YAMMA belt. The YAMMA was the pit I think.

Updated the OP with the news that the WAMMA belt will be up for grabs.

# ? Nov 07, 2009 19:48

MassRayPer: May 26, 2001; Fundamentals as sound as the WNBA

Tonight's event would be so much more interesting if it was Fedor in YAMMA.

# ? Nov 07, 2009 19:57

AXE BODY SPRAY: Aug 16, 2000

But YAMMA belts were presented at WAMMA shows? So the YAMMA and WAMMA were connected, right?

# ? Nov 07, 2009 20:18

hall n oates mom: Jul 17, 2000; - and I no longer smack kufis; I only smack skullies, and pirate hats

How long has this poo poo been on deck? Either way it's more watchable than a lot of fight nights. Guaranteed comedy and maybe 1 or 2 solid fights!

# ? Nov 07, 2009 20:35

1st AD: Dec 03, 2004; Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu: sometimes passing just isn't an option.

The fight's been booked for a couple months now. I don't know what you are talking about in reference to the Fight Nights - those have generally been solid and much more entertaining than some UFC PPV cards.

# ? Nov 07, 2009 20:41

Captain Log: Oct 02, 2006; Fear? I know not fear. There are only moments of confusion.

Could someone please tell me about the women's MMA match? I don't know anything about those two.

Are either of them good? Why does one of them look like she just got out of band camp?

# ? Nov 07, 2009 20:46

1st AD: Dec 03, 2004; Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu: sometimes passing just isn't an option.

That fight isn't going to be on the televised card.

# ? Nov 07, 2009 20:53

Coitus_Interruptus: Feb 27, 2006; Because you are always by my side... I will fight!

Bundt Cake posted:

i really really doubt this

El Roncho posted:

Saying Shields is going to sub Mayhem is pretty silly.

Yes, it is highly unlikely that the man with a strong grappling background could win by submission. Its not like he ever wins matches via submissions.

Its much more likely that they will instead choose to have a lovely loving kickboxing match and Jason Miller wins with the amazing striking he has shown so often.

# ? Nov 07, 2009 20:59

1st AD: Dec 03, 2004; Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu: sometimes passing just isn't an option.

I can't remember the last time Mayhem even got submitted.

# ? Nov 07, 2009 21:02

Coitus_Interruptus: Feb 27, 2006; Because you are always by my side... I will fight!

Jason Miller also has fought literally one dude with grappling skills. He lost.

He might not get subbed but expecting a kickboxing match is kind of retarded, neither of them have the skills. expecting Jason Miller K.O. is even crazier.

Coitus_Interruptus fucked around with this message at Nov 07, 2009 around 21:10

# ? Nov 07, 2009 21:07

1st AD: Dec 03, 2004; Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu: sometimes passing just isn't an option.

I agree, I think we're in for 5 rounds of grappling. But if Jacare couldn't submit Mayhem I don't see why Shields would.

# ? Nov 07, 2009 21:12

El Roncho: Oct 15, 2006; The Texican

Miller didn't get subbed by Jacare in their fights. If Shields pulls one off I'll poo poo myself.

Edit: God drat it.

# ? Nov 07, 2009 21:18

E2M2: Mar 02, 2007; yase.

didnt wamma close their office awhile ago or something?

# ? Nov 07, 2009 21:25

Typo92: Nov 06, 2009

Fedor TKO-GnP
Shields Dec-Lots of grappling, stalemating
Moosashi Sub-GnP, then RNC
Werdum Sub-Heel Hook

# ? Nov 07, 2009 21:32

Coitus_Interruptus: Feb 27, 2006; Because you are always by my side... I will fight!

I think some of it has to do with the fact that a successful competitive grappling pedigree doesn't always translate into a successful submission game in MMA.

Ive only seen Souza sub all of two guys. Zelg "Rip My leg off please" Galesic and some dude in his first professional fight. I'm not convinced he's the grappling beast in MMA he was in ADCC's

Considering Souza is the only strong submission guy we've seen Miller face, and the fact that Jake Shields has been very successful with submissions in MMA. I have no idea why you dudes think Miller being submitted by shields is laughable.

Coitus_Interruptus fucked around with this message at Nov 07, 2009 around 21:44

# ? Nov 07, 2009 21:34

JiveHonky: May 12, 2001; fancy that. now.

It's just much more likely that if Sheilds wins it will be by decision. Besides the Jacare fight I remember Miller being completely dominated by GSP and laughing at GSP's sub attempts.

If Miller gets subbed tonight you will look like a genius though.

# ? Nov 07, 2009 21:47

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