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If somebody types my name into a Google search, some embarrassingly older (and some newer) social networking posts appear. The links no longer work as I have systematically closed down everything I can find with my name attached to it but they still appear in the search along with the embarrassing snippet. I have a unique name. Some I just deleted today, others I deleted a week or so ago. Any input as to how long Google will hold on to my dirty laundry? Fake Edit: They're really not all that bad, just immature college-type stuff I want gone from my adult life. Real Edit: Let me make it clear that I recognize that this is not a big deal. In light of other things going on my family has gone insane because they don't understand the internet. That being said, now that I've learned more about this, I actually think it's both relevant and helpful to any of us who want to be more careful about what shows up when we or others search for us. And it's especially relevant to those of us with unique names. Eggza16 fucked around with this message at Nov 09, 2009 around 00:00 |
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Google updates their cache pretty frequently, as far as I can tell. At least based on new blog posts and poo poo showing up on the search results page. And nobody's searching you on Google. Relax.
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| # ? Nov 07, 2009 15:51 |
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Free Market Gravy posted:Google updates their cache pretty frequently, as far as I can tell. At least based on new blog posts and poo poo showing up on the search results page. My sentiments exactly, but apparently my brother's company showed him something I posted two months ago on a Twitter account I've used a total of 7 times. All the more reason to take it down. Of course, the one and only embarrassing, stupid Tweet I posted (something about porn stars)is what appears when my name is searched in Google. Now my family thinks I'm some sort of monster. All the more reason to post this in E/N. My brother works for a really big company. My parent's also think something like this will keep me out of the military. "They see something like that and they'll kick your rear end right out!" Guess which one of us is the underachiever. EDIT: To answer the inevitable question of what I posted, the actual post was something along the lines of "I got a Twitter account to read porn stars' tweets because they're great" Which is true on both accounts, that is why I got one and they are hilarious. I guess "great" wasn't the best word to choose. Eggza16 fucked around with this message at Nov 07, 2009 around 16:32 |
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the military is so desperate for living (enlisted) bodies that as long as you don't tweet about jacking an airbus and flying it into congress they won't give one quarter of a poo poo.
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decahedron posted:the military is so desperate for living (enlisted) bodies that as long as you don't tweet about jacking an airbus and flying it into congress they won't give one quarter of a poo poo. Yeah, I know that but middle-aged parents who currently hate you won't exactly hear that. Either way, it's all gone it's just in the goddamn Google search.
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| # ? Nov 07, 2009 16:30 |
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It can take a while. I work for a company where one of the exact services we provide is called "reputation management"- meaning that if there are lovely things about you on the internet, we will do...things so that it'll come up later in the search engine results pages (very few people look past page 1 of the results digging for dirt). It can take a long time, though, especially if you have a very unique name as you said you did, and a lot of it depends on how popular the sites are that your name is on- if a page has a PR of 1 and your name is on it, chances are it's going to be there for a long time because Google doesn't care very much about re-crawling and re-indexing a PR 1 page- a PR 8 page is crawled approximately every 15 minutes, while a PR 1 page might get crawled once a month if the site is structured well. It raises some interesting moral questions about the job, and the department that does "reputation management" isn't the one I work in, but for example, we have a client who lost his license to perform surgery when he fell asleep in the OR and then tested positive for being drunk in surgery. He's paying quite a lot of money to try to clear his name with the search engines, I'm talking minimum $2500 a month, and with no guarantees, so that he can get his business as a medical consultant off the ground (the person working on that campaign refused to do it any more actually, just yesterday, after having grappled with it for a while). Your best bet is to be very active on a Facebook and a LinkedIn page that use your actual name and yes, for the record, most potential employers these days for anything beyond an hourly wage are going to at the very least run your name through Google. Don't use your real name on the Internet if you care at all about your privacy. Efexeye fucked around with this message at Nov 07, 2009 around 16:34 |
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If you use privacy settings does that help? I'm actually kinda curious about this. Everything on my Facebook is set to friends only, or even a small group of friends only. Everything else I use on the internet does not use my real name and each account uses a different name.
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Facebook tells the search engines not to crawl pages (and thereby not index them) marked as private, but nothing is guaranteed. From their privacy policy: You post User Content (as defined in the Facebook Terms of Use) on the Site at your own risk. Although we allow you to set privacy options that limit access to your pages, please be aware that no security measures are perfect or impenetrable. We cannot control the actions of other Users with whom you may choose to share your pages and information. Therefore, we cannot and do not guarantee that User Content you post on the Site will not be viewed by unauthorized persons. We are not responsible for circumvention of any privacy settings or security measures contained on the Site. You understand and acknowledge that, even after removal, copies of User Content may remain viewable in cached and archived pages or if other Users have copied or stored your User Content. It's widely suspected that Facebook offers special accounts to corporate companies that can see through privacy settings but it has never been confirmed. Bottom line, don't put anything on the Internet if you don't want anyone to see it, I know at least one member of SA has been denied a job because he had a picture of himself hitting a bong on his non-private FB page. Once the bits are out there they are very, very hard to get back. EDIT: OP, you picked the worst possible service to post on and at the worst possible time, Google and Bing just signed deals with Twitter to allow Tweets to appear in their search index. It hasn't been fully incorporated into Google yet, but Twitter is getting a lot of attention from the search engines right now, Tweets have an unusually high amount of authority. That said, is what you Tweeted really that embarassing? It's legal to look at porn, it's legal to read porn stars Tweets, and I'd think you'd be able to explain to a potential employer fairly easily that you were just screwing around... Efexeye fucked around with this message at Nov 07, 2009 around 16:52 |
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I imagine geocities finally pulling the plug has resulted in a lot of relieved people. But as Efexeye says, if you don't want the world at large to know something or see something then don't put it online - stupid people seem all too willing to share details on social networking sites that make their doom incredibly easy, see any number of helldump or e/n threads. My real name turns up absolutely nothing on Google and I'm going to try and keep it that way.
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decahedron posted:the military is so desperate for living (enlisted) bodies that as long as you don't tweet about jacking an airbus and flying it into congress they won't give one quarter of a poo poo. Truth. Also, your parents are aware and mortified of a ton of poo poo you've done in your life. They'll either get over it or give you odd looks from time to time, but that's not really your problem unless you're extraordinarily close to them.
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Free Market Gravy posted:Truth. I'm living with them. Efexeye posted:That said, is what you Tweeted really that embarassing? It's legal to look at porn, it's legal to read porn stars Tweets, and I'd think you'd be able to explain to a potential employer fairly easily that you were just screwing around... It's not, from the perspective of a 24 year old man-boy; however, to my brother who is dealing with lobbyists and my town being a pretty wholesome small city it's mortifying. Mainly just my family. Eggza16 fucked around with this message at Nov 07, 2009 around 18:14 |
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Eggza16 posted:It's not, from the perspective of a 24 year old man-boy; however, to my brother who is dealing with lobbyists and my town being a pretty wholesome small city it's mortifying. Mainly just my family. Are you saying that if lobbyists find out they're dealing with a man whose brother reads porn stars' tweets, they will lose respect for him? And that soon EVERYONE IN TOWN WILL KNOW ABOUT YOU? That's ridiculous.
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Eggza16 posted:I'm living with them. That's not what I meant. And you're really overreacting. To expand, what's really happened is that your parents found out you know about porn. Oh, horror of horrors. Chill out. It's not going to ruin your future, it's not going to gently caress up your career, and they already knew anyway. They don't like thinking about it and this brought the thought back up in their heads, but they'll bury it. Stop getting so worked up. Free Market Gravy fucked around with this message at Nov 07, 2009 around 18:31 |
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Free Market Gravy posted:That's not what I meant. And you're really overreacting. I have to agree with that, this is a really, really stupid thing to be worried about.
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Efexeye posted:I have to agree with that, this is a really, really stupid thing to be worried about. Right, forgive me, I'm still dealing with the initial gently caress up that brought about my brother emailing our parents the drat link. They're not really worried about the fact that I "know about porn," it's that I was stupid enough to put it on the internet like that. I'm especially thankful to Efexeye for the input too. It sucks that the page 1 Google search results will remain for an undetermined amount of time and that it'll most likely be there for awhile, it's just too bad I didn't think to remove all of that stupid poo poo immediately after putting it up. It's stupid, it's just that it's badly timed.
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It sounds like your entire family consists of paranoid, anxiety riddled pricks.
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| # ? Nov 07, 2009 18:45 |
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If you want to send me your name in an email (fximan AT yahoo.com) I may be able to give you more specific advice. (I threadshit in GBS and lost my plat  )
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Efexeye posted:If you want to send me your name in an email (fximan AT yahoo.com) I may be able to give you more specific advice. (I threadshit in GBS and lost my plat Same here. Maybe AIM? I've grown really paranoid in the past 3 weeks. I have yours on my buddy list.
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Eggza16 posted:I'm living with them. I heard that once you move out of your parent's house your life gets much better.
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| # ? Nov 07, 2009 19:54 |
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Just send google an email telling them the problem, and they'll delete your stuff from their computer.
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| # ? Nov 07, 2009 21:04 |
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I know you were kidding but I have seen that work in the past. The OP isn't in that much trouble. It's one Tweet. Twitter is a popular enough site that now that the original account has been deleted, when the search engines crawl the site they will see that the content is no longer there. Now it's a question of how often Google updates its index (constantly) for low-authority pages (not as constantly). I'd say it will likely be less than a month before the Tweet is gone for good, and it may be a good deal less than that. EDIT: Also, when YOU specifically will see it drop out of the results page depends on what time of day it is, what physical location you are accessing google from, whether or not you are logged into your gmail or adsense account at the time you perform the search, how many results you tell the engine to return at once, blahblah the list is endless. Give it a month. Efexeye fucked around with this message at Nov 07, 2009 around 21:18 |
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Efexeye posted:It's widely suspected that Facebook offers special accounts to corporate companies that can see through privacy settings but it has never been confirmed. I've always wondered about this, because I've heard it both ways. Not that I have anything bad even privately on my profile, but some people are just as adamant about those accounts existing as I've seen people working for facebook adamant about them not.
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Insurrectum posted:I've always wondered about this, because I've heard it both ways. Not that I have anything bad even privately on my profile, but some people are just as adamant about those accounts existing as I've seen people working for facebook adamant about them not. The safest thing is just to have two separate accounts, one that you use professionally and one that you use personally. I don't even use Facebook, personally, and it drives me batshit insane because my wife uses the same account to gently caress around with Mob Wars that she uses to recruit with. It's just not a good idea, some of my jackass buddies are FB friends of hers and they still don't think we're adults. A fuckup is sort of inevitable.
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| # ? Nov 07, 2009 21:30 |
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Am IRL pals with the OP. Dude I just googled you and it's nothing bad, and we both know your family is a bunch of boojy insane neurotic assholes. Do like everyone else said and calm the gently caress down, you've had a rough time lately, but if I were you this is the last thing I'd be making an E/N post about right now.
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plasmolysis posted:Am IRL pals with the OP. poo poo just got real.
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Free Market Gravy posted:poo poo just got real. I hope so. The other dramabomb thread I'm following is getting stale.
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No no no, I didn't mean it to start drama, I just meant he's dealing with a bunch of poo poo and should probably table this for now. I meant:quote:Right, forgive me, I'm still dealing with the initial gently caress up that brought about my brother emailing our parents the drat link. "The initial gently caress up." I'm not interested in dramabombs that involve people I know. Thanks tho guys!
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| # ? Nov 07, 2009 22:04 |
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That Guy needs beer dude, be a bro and go get him 8 or 9.
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Efexeye posted:That Guy needs beer dude, be a bro and go get him 8 or 9. His parents' house is way far from me and i have no car so i cannot =[
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I'm willing to help, but you don't have plat. Anyway, it can be a few days to a few months. Google is sometimes retardedly slow. I've seen results hanging out for 2 years after the fact they were gone. 
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Some rear end in a top hat posted something rather intense using my real name and my hometown on a site called "Tnfcomments's Weblog". I've never heard of this site, and only Googled my name because this threat piqued my interest. The question was asked on December 19, 2008 at 4:04 am, but it's the second result that comes up. How the hell do I get this removed?
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| # ? Nov 07, 2009 22:41 |
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It can take a few months depending on how often Google crawls the space and clears the cache. For obscurely located sites, this will not happen right away.
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mrchina posted:How the hell do I get this removed? Upon further review and the glory of anonymous blogging, you don't.
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thuvia posted:I heard that once you move out of your parent's house your life gets much better. Actually, I had to move back in with them...
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There is some larger issue than Google going on here, why not just spill the beans, it's E/N after all.
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mrchina posted:Some rear end in a top hat posted something rather intense using my real name and my hometown on a site called "Tnfcomments's Weblog". I've never heard of this site, and only Googled my name because this threat piqued my interest. The question was asked on December 19, 2008 at 4:04 am, but it's the second result that comes up. The only person who can remove it is the author of the blog. Asking Blogger or Wordpress or whoever hosts the blog will result in nothing because they have Section 230 immunity. So basically your options are these: 1. Ask the author of the blog to remove it. Might fail specially if he/she hates you. 2. Get a lawyer. This will cost you $$$. 3. Get Twitter, LinkedIn and Facebook accounts with your name so that you can push down the search results. 4. Wait until Section 230 is amended by congress. You might wait forever. 5. Ignore it.
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Free Market Gravy posted:Google updates their cache pretty frequently, as far as I can tell. At least based on new blog posts and poo poo showing up on the search results page. One summer I worked in the same position as this girl I had a crush on at the time (I actually got the job through her recommending me to her boss). I was using the computer she used, and found my name in the google search history. So apparently some people do google you, haha.
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Borsalino posted:The only person who can remove it is the author of the blog. Asking Blogger or Wordpress or whoever hosts the blog will result in nothing because they have Section 230 immunity. I can't really find any information about Tnfcomments's Weblog... It just seems like a random collection of comments. Oh well.
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Eggza16 posted:To answer the inevitable question of what I posted, the actual post was something along the lines of "I got a Twitter account to read porn stars' tweets because they're great"
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dMastri posted:This is like the lamest thing in the world to be worried about. Yeah I know, and I'm 24-loving-years old. It's retarded.
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