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I'm looking into a new car, which does AI recommend, a Honda Civic Coupe or a Honda Fit? Looking primarily at expense and gas mileage.
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| # ? Nov 07, 2009 16:50 |
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| # ? Nov 21, 2009 01:47 |
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Drive both. Pick whichever one you like better.
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| # ? Nov 07, 2009 17:05 |
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ParrotPatrol posted:I'm looking into a new car, which does AI recommend, a Honda Civic Coupe or a Honda Fit? Looking primarily at expense and gas mileage.
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| # ? Nov 07, 2009 17:11 |
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So it's pretty much the same car, just different looks? I'm incapable of making any major life decision without consulting the wisdom of the goons.
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| # ? Nov 07, 2009 17:12 |
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ParrotPatrol posted:So it's pretty much the same car, just different looks?
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| # ? Nov 07, 2009 17:12 |
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destructo posted:No. Then?
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| # ? Nov 07, 2009 17:12 |
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One is a compact, the other a sub-compact? The Fit is substantially smaller. Drive them both. See which one you like better.
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| # ? Nov 07, 2009 17:14 |
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Get the cheaper one that gets better gas mileage?
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| # ? Nov 07, 2009 17:15 |
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Having driven and owned both I am going to say go with the Fit unless you do a lot of high speed interstate driving. The Fit is light, feels very "tossable", and has a great gearbox and quick ratio electric power steering. It's very roomy on the inside and you'll be amazed at what you can fit (hurr) in the back. I got about 32-34 mpg in the city in mine (2008) and about 32 on the highway due to the fact the car is geared very short and at 80mph you're doing about 4000 RPM. I think the new models are a bit more aerodynamic, but they're still geared short. The Civic coupe gets comparable highway mileage and has a larger gas tank which allows for much longer distances between fillups. It's also geared taller so the engine isn't screaming so much. It definitely feels like a larger, heavier car to drive, though. The steering isn't as quick and the gearbox doesn't feel like it likes to be shifted fast. I can't comment on the automatic transmissions for either of these cars.
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| # ? Nov 07, 2009 17:18 |
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Previa_fun posted:Having driven and owned both I am going to say go with the Fit unless you do a lot of high speed interstate driving. Precisely what I was looking for. I'm driving a Grand Am GT right now, how do these compare to this?
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| # ? Nov 07, 2009 17:20 |
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ParrotPatrol posted:Precisely what I was looking for. I'm driving a Grand Am GT right now, how do these compare to this? Seriously just go drive them.
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| # ? Nov 07, 2009 17:29 |
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I've owned my Civic sedan for just over 3 years and 35K miles, and coming from driving V6 FWD cars like yours growing up, you notice the lack of torque, but despite being down on power, it's a pretty solid car. About the only time I find power really lacking is maintaining highway speed up steep grades and the automatic has to drop down 2-3 gears just to keep up with traffic. Visibility up front takes some getting used to with the long dashboard in between you and the front of the car being so short that when I'm pulling out of tight parking spots, I have much more room than I think I have and the windshield pillars are wide enough to be a blind spot sometimes because of the side airbags that are in them, but again, all that stuff takes little adjusting if you're driving a lot. I average about 34-35 mpg, purely highway driving I could push 40 mpg at about 70 mph. Commuting about 60 miles a day to school, filling up one less time each week was such a relief. When buying the Civic, I was looking at a Fit as my second option, but the ridiculous markups coupled with low inventories when I was looking to buy forced my hand into a Civic. I like the new Fits, it's a little down on power and the gearing is short so the fuel economy may not be as good as the Civic, but for the added utility and simplicity, it's a fun round-the-town car. I don't think you can really go wrong with either, so just go drive them already.
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| # ? Nov 07, 2009 18:02 |
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Both will be different from your Grand Am. Drive them, and then post back your thoughts. Maybe you just really really hate the way Honda's cup holders sit or you're 8" taller than the midget the car was designed for and your knees are splayed terribly, and you go with something else entirely. Civic and Fit are both great cars, but maybe not for you. This is what test drives are for, and why it's little use to have these discussions before driving them. Just whatever you do, don't be suckered in, do NOT buy anything when you test drive! Take your time. superdylan posted:Get the cheaper one that gets better gas mileage? grover fucked around with this message at Nov 07, 2009 around 18:35 |
| # ? Nov 07, 2009 18:31 |
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Have you looked at other car companies as well? If not, why don't you go check out Toyota. They are about the same build quality and same price range. go check out the toyota yaris and compare that with the honda fit (although I suggest the fit more) as for the civic coupe, compare it with toyota corolla like grover said, all of those cars are perfect for completely different people. Maybeee you will like Hyundai Accent or Hyundai Elantra. I drive hyundai and I feel miserable driving it everytime. However, I can vouch for their build quality improving significantly over the last 7 years or so. Since you are going for the econobox type of cars, you might like hyundai's offering as well. Maintenance and parts costs for hyundai's are significantly cheaper than honda's and toyota from my experience.
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| # ? Nov 07, 2009 20:08 |
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ParrotPatrol posted:I'm incapable of making any major life decision without consulting the wisdom of the goons. And the rules! OP: go drive a bunch of cars, drive home with one. vvv - he obviously didn't do any research between the two Phone fucked around with this message at Nov 07, 2009 around 20:35 |
| # ? Nov 07, 2009 20:22 |
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Phone posted:And the rules! Was gonna say...yes this person has narrowed it down to two cars, but they're "boring econoboxes" as described in the rules. I'm not gonna backseat mod though.
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| # ? Nov 07, 2009 20:24 |
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I have a 2008 Honda Fit and used to drive a 2007 Civic coupe. I'm 5' 10" and my head hit the back window/roof in the back seat of the Civic, depending on how I sit. The Fit feels much bigger inside, and of course the can seats fold up for more cargo room. Visibility in both cars takes some getting used to. I can't see the hood at all on either of them, and both have giant A-pillars. Like Captain Libido said, parking both is really easy, since you have a lot more space than you think. The Civic I drove is an automatic, which Honda gears much lower on the Fit and the Civic, but I like the feel of the shifter on my Fit enough that you should try for a MT if you know how. The clutch is also very forgiving. The Civic doesn't really feel much faster, despite its bigger engine. Your best bet is to test drive both and see which one you like more. They're both safe and economical cars.
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| # ? Nov 07, 2009 20:37 |
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Okay, I test drove both. I love drat near everything about the fit except for the dash readout. There is a pointless and distracting MPG digi readout in the center of the dash and I have a gigantic dial dedicated to RPMs, which is poo poo I don't need to know or care about. It has an absurd amount of room inside, it's like a rolling bag of holding. I loved everything about the interior of the Civic, but it felt kinda loose and unresponsive, whereas the Fit could turn on a dime, the Civic didn't feel tight. So in short, the Fit drives like I want it to but the interior leaves something to be desired, but the Civic drives like I'm slightly drunk and has a fantastic interior. Also, the Fit doesn't have cruise control available on the cheaper model, not even as an option. Phone posted:vvv - he obviously didn't do any research between the two I did, however, I'm kind of torn between the simplicity and ease of the Fit and the ergonomics, look, and price of the Civic. Does anyone know if the Fit has the kind of longevity that the Civic does?
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| # ? Nov 07, 2009 21:39 |
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If you are going to drive on the highway much, make sure you take both on the highway before making a final decision. They will both last forever.
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| # ? Nov 07, 2009 21:48 |
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Helmet Jap posted:Maintenance and parts costs for hyundai's are significantly cheaper than honda's and toyota from my experience. If you can find them. Around here it takes at least a few days to get any kind of replacement part in for a Kia or Hyundai. A Honda or Toyota (especially a Honda) can be had within an hour. For example, today at work. I needed a front motor mount for a 2003 Accord. I had an original Honda mount in my hands in 45 minutes, from Carquest. The very next car I worked on was a 2005 Kia Rio that I found needed a new power steering pump. I won't have it until Wednesday. The Fit motor is basically indestructible. They are a relatively new car, so I haven't seen but a few with six figure mileages, but all of them have been totally solid. Typical Honda longevity. The base model Civic uses a 1.8L I4 which I don't know a whole lot about, but I know the Si uses basically the same engine my RSX Type S, which I know can go at least 250K with no major repairs. Treat the engine right and it will run forever.
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| # ? Nov 08, 2009 01:25 |
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JonReremy posted:If you can find them. Around here it takes at least a few days to get any kind of replacement part in for a Kia or Hyundai. A Honda or Toyota (especially a Honda) can be had within an hour. You're a car mech or engineer I take it? The Fit is relatively new and the Civic has been around longer than I've been alive. Longevity was a deciding factor. Price is similar between the two and the fact that cruise control doesn't come on the base model for the fit period really pissed me off, but style aside, I think I would go with the Fit if it has the kind of lasting power that the Civic does, as this was definitely a deciding factor.
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| # ? Nov 08, 2009 01:53 |
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Do you live in a city, suburbs or rural areas? How many miles do you drive a year and how fast do you drive on highways? The Fit is a very good city car, but on highways its kind of jumpy and unsettled especially over 60+ mph at 75+ its pretty awful. Also I assume you have tested the Kia Forte EX, Ford Focus SE and Nissan Versa 1.8 SL which are excellent cars with way better value for the dollar then the kinda overpriced Honda Civic/Fit. NEVER buy a new car without testing the competition, $15,000+ is a lot of money so choose wisely.
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| # ? Nov 08, 2009 03:06 |
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ParrotPatrol posted:The Fit is relatively new and the Civic has been around longer than I've been alive. While this may be true the powertrain in the Fit is actually more established than the one in the non Si Civic. The R18 that the Civic uses now was introduced in 2006 when the 8th gen debuted, while the Fit's L series has been in use in other countries since 2001. Also, it's an SOHC Honda 4 cylinder. They've been making those well for decades, it's not likely they hosed this one up.
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| # ? Nov 08, 2009 03:12 |
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grover posted:Both will be different from your Grand Am. Drive them, and then post back your thoughts. Maybe you just really really hate the way Honda's cup holders sit or you're 8" taller than the midget the car was designed for and your knees are splayed terribly, and you go with something else entirely. Civic and Fit are both great cars, but maybe not for you. This is what test drives are for, and why it's little use to have these discussions before driving them. Pasta with fries?! Now that's the craziest thing that I've heard in AI for a while.
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| # ? Nov 08, 2009 03:20 |
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