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My dad was chosen to go on an episode of Dr. Phil for 'rude people' and I was chosen (by default, after the rest of my family refused) to go with him. My reasoning was more along the lines of 'Free Trip to Hollywood' and 'Holy crap, they actually have real people on these shows? No way!'. We flew out Tuesday, and came back Wednesday, staying the night in the Hollywood Renaissance (an obscenely priced hotel next to the Chinese Theater, the Walk of Fame, and all that other nonsense tourist crap. I consider this bribery, since the next day they took a bunch of stuff out of context and made my dad the villian of the episode, which we had expected anyway, but oh well. Also, the best part is that BILL FREAKIN' NYE was in the audience that day, just hanging out. This was the best part of that entire trip. Questions? In a bit, when I find my camera, I will take pictures of out 'goody bag's' from the show - a pen, notebook, and mug.
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| # ? Nov 07, 2009 23:01 |
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| # ? Nov 20, 2009 22:18 |
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You do know Dr. Phil isn't a real doctor right?
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| # ? Nov 07, 2009 23:02 |
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Did he get paid or anything?
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| # ? Nov 07, 2009 23:08 |
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When do you expect the episode to air?
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| # ? Nov 07, 2009 23:09 |
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satiat posted:I consider this bribery, since the next day they took a bunch of stuff out of context and made my dad the villian of the episode, which we had expected anyway, but oh well. Why did you guys go on the show when you knew it was going to make your dad look bad? Just for the free trip/experience?
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| # ? Nov 07, 2009 23:17 |
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Dr. Phil is a hack. How much are these shows scripted, anyway? Are you told the sorts of things that will be asked? Or is it all just a big surprise as it happens?
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| # ? Nov 07, 2009 23:19 |
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not meme its you posted:You do know Dr. Phil isn't a real doctor right? Pretty sure this isn't true. How was your dad chosen for the show? Can you give some examples of how things were taken out of context in the episode? Did Dr. Phil interact with you or your dad during breaks or before/after the show and if so, how did he act?
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| # ? Nov 07, 2009 23:19 |
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not meme its you posted:You do know Dr. Phil isn't a real doctor right? I've heard people talk about this, but I'm not buying it unless I see some legit source say the same (and I don't care enough to look myself). Maybe we need to get a law that requires one to be a real doctor before they can call themselves one. Or maybe Phil is a doctor but in same other field...like Philosophy, or Spanish.
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| # ? Nov 07, 2009 23:30 |
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not meme its you posted:You do know Dr. Phil isn't a real doctor right? He has a PhD in clinical psychology. Hes not a medical doctor if thats what you mean.
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| # ? Nov 07, 2009 23:35 |
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EDIT: ^^^^ Thank you, come again. I understood that Phil has a PhD in psychology, not psychiatry. And that psychology is about holding hands and not prescribing drugs because you're not a medical doctor. Someone please correct me. What's Dr. Phil like backstage? I get the feeling that he's a smug and obnoxious guy full of himself just because he's Oprah's bottom bitch.
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| # ? Nov 07, 2009 23:49 |
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Dr. Phil does have a PhD in clinical psychology, but he isn't currently licensed to actually practice anywhere (he used to be licensed in Texas). edit: How was your dad chosen? Did you apply to go on, or did someone you guys know nominate you or something? orangeyousunny fucked around with this message at Nov 08, 2009 around 01:26 |
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Were there many reshoots of scenes, if any? How is the air conditioning? I've noticed that on the show everyone's hair is flowing quite a bit.
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| # ? Nov 08, 2009 01:33 |
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Malaleb posted:Pretty sure this isn't true. He got his PhD from a lovely rural college in Texas that's pretty much half a step up from Phoenix University and isn't licensed to practice. I have no idea how he started going on Oprah but basically he's scum
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I Am a Keg. posted:He got his PhD from a lovely rural college in Texas that's pretty much half a step up from Phoenix University and isn't licensed to practice. University of North Texas isn't that bad of a school and its located in the DFW metroplex, its not some fly by night rural college. He doesn't have a license to practice because he doesn't need one in what he does, it takes a lot of effort to maintain a professional license (continuing ed.) and its easy to renew an inactive one. That does not make any conclusions about his advice, which from what I've seen him do is pretty terrible, misguided or naive.
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| # ? Nov 08, 2009 04:18 |
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What's the episode called? Can we watch it online?
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| # ? Nov 08, 2009 05:02 |
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Dr. Dre has a doctorate in economics v  v
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| # ? Nov 08, 2009 05:04 |
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why is your dad rude?
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Granpa Cuddles posted:why is your dad rude? How is your dad SO rude that he had to be flown across the country and shamed in front of a live audience and millions of people across the country?
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| # ? Nov 08, 2009 05:09 |
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Do you realize "Dr. Phil" is kind of like "Are You Smarter Than A Fifth Grader?" For example, are you smarter than a fifth grader? If you watch the show, then you have already answered the question: no. Can Dr. Phil help you (or your dad)? If you agree to appear on the show (or watch the show), then the answer is no. There is no help for you. Throwing in my two cents about what I have heard about how he sold his soul to the devil and appeared on daytime television. Supposedly, he was working for some large law firm doing jury selection or something else with his PhD and that is how he met Oprah. She apparently has a radar for over-inflated-self-worth personalities that can be marketed to the masses.
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| # ? Nov 08, 2009 05:35 |
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osukeith161 posted:Throwing in my two cents about what I have heard about how he sold his soul to the devil and appeared on daytime television. Supposedly, he was working for some large law firm doing jury selection or something else with his PhD and that is how he met Oprah. She apparently has a radar for over-inflated-self-worth personalities that can be marketed to the masses. ....so apparently at what point in his life did he do something wrong, because he seems to have made a name for himself in life, have tons of followers, was taken under the wing of television queen Oprah and has tons of money. I mean, I don't sit around jerking off to his bald head, but really - where's the hate coming from? Just don't watch his show.
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Dr. Video Games 0050 posted:....so apparently at what point in his life did he do something wrong, because he seems to have made a name for himself in life, have tons of followers, was taken under the wing of television queen Oprah and has tons of money. If his wikipedia article and other news stories are to be believed, he is mostly a huge hypocrite based on his marriage history and conflicts of interest regarding his practice.
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Sylink posted:If his wikipedia article and other news stories are to be believed, he is mostly a huge hypocrite based on his marriage history and conflicts of interest regarding his practice. Any examples? I took a cursory glance at his Wikipedia page and did'nt see anything out of the ordinary.
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The problem is not Dr. Phil's credentials, the problem is that tv shows are not a substitute for actual counselling. If Dr. Phil were a good psychologist, he wouldn't have the stupid show.
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Trillian posted:The problem is not Dr. Phil's credentials, the problem is that tv shows are not a substitute for actual counselling. If Dr. Phil were a good psychologist, he wouldn't have the stupid show. You're telling me that if Oprah's production company came to you and offered a multi-million dollar contract for your likeness and services to provide general psych help you'd say no? Cool dude! Good luck in life!
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Dr. Video Games 0050 posted:You're telling me that if Oprah's production company came to you and offered a multi-million dollar contract for your likeness and services to provide general psych help you'd say no? Funny, I missed where Trillian said he or she would decline such an invite. In fact, most people would accept such an offer (myself included). The caveat would be that we would be tossing away all professional credibility and open ourselves to mockery and shame. It is a trade off. Dr. Phil made his choice, and he is, rightfully so, lambasted for it. It isn't very complicated. Example of appropriate behavior for a medical professional posted:One of the girls charged in the vicious beating of a classmate was bailed out of a Florida jail by television talk show host Dr. Phil McGraw, the show confirmed in a statement on Saturday. Dr. Phil’s spokeswoman Terri Corigliano confirmed that the show’s producers were in the process of booking guests for a program about the case. The talk show host allegedly posted bond, which was set at $33,000, for one of the eight teens that was arrested for severely beating another teenager in Florida. The highly publicized case has been in the news for over a week now, and Dr. Phil must have wanted some of that action. Apparently Dr. Phil didn’t learn anything from his interference with Britney Spears. Jerry Springer exploited messed up people/families for television ratings. There is nothing new about that. The big issue people have with Phil is the whole "Dr." slant of it. What do troubled people need most? Oh yea, that is right, a plane ticket out to a national audience to be edited and portrayed in whatever way will garner the best ratings. That is certainly acting in the "patients" best interests. He is a joke, and that is why people point out his educational and licensing shortcomings.
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| # ? Nov 08, 2009 18:51 |
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Trillian posted:The problem is not Dr. Phil's credentials, the problem is that tv shows are not a substitute for actual counselling. If Dr. Phil were a good psychologist, he wouldn't have the stupid show. I'm pretty sure Dr. Phil makes more money than your averave psychologist. A lot more. He may not be a good psychologist but he is hardly a failrue of a human being as some of you portray him.
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DR. PHIL IS A NAZI
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Namarrgon posted:I'm pretty sure Dr. Phil makes more money than your averave psychologist. A lot more. MORE MONEY = BETTER THAN
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artard posted:MORE MONEY = BETTER THAN I was considering whether to clarify, but I figured it would be obvious. Maybe Dr. Phil cares more about making money than being a good psychologist?
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| # ? Nov 08, 2009 19:30 |
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Namarrgon posted:I was considering whether to clarify, but I figured it would be obvious. I don't think anyone can blame him for wanting to make a quick buck. But--and that's key--that doesn't make him good at what he portrays himself as being. He IS a great media darling somehow. Just not a great, good, or even respectably mediocre psychologist. To measure him as being good because he rakes in the dough is the issue. He seems like he's really not a great human being and just a fantastic cash cow. I mean, Jenny McCarthy is one of Oprah's chosen ones, and are you going to say she's fine too?
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| # ? Nov 08, 2009 20:27 |
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Did Dr. Phil advise your father to "get over it" and generally pull himself up by the bootstraps?
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| # ? Nov 08, 2009 21:12 |
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How does it feel to know that you will entertain bored middle-aged housewives (such as my mother) for an hour?
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| # ? Nov 08, 2009 21:31 |
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We were told, maybe 20 minutes before the show, to alter our stories to make it more melodramatic - instead of being amused by my dad's lack of social sensitivity, I was supposed to be horrified and embarrassed by it (which was hard, I had to keep myself from laughing on the show) and my dad was supposed to 'want to learn'. I think we both failed in these roles. We weren't told what they would choose to bring up, apparently, he keeps it secret until they are actually taping. I don't know if it was intentional or not, but we had to be at the studio at 6am (8 am our times, so not too bad) before any restaurants or anything opened. They said they would serve breakfast, and only gave us a bagel and a muffin. My dad is 300 pounds and diabetic, so he was not doing too great by the time taping happened at nine. He thinks slower, and was completely off his game. It wasn't until after the show that he was able to eat something like a turkey sandwich - and was immediately doing better. He had asked the breakfast deliverer where he could get something like a breakfast taco, and she replied "We don't have that here, this is L.A., we're healthy, we're carb conscious."...as she handed us a meal consisting of a bagel and a drat muffin. They took 5 examples out of maybe a hundred we had given them - instead of one of my favorites when my boyfriend went to grab a mexican coke - "You eat our food, screw my daughter, and now you're going to drink one of my cokes?", those chose where he made a waitress cry - ignoring the reasons why he was mean to her (brought food to the table when there was physically no room - and then proceeded to sneeze over everything and acted like it was totally normal and ok, why are you such a tight rear end, god its just a sneeze). He isn't an rear end in a top hat - he holds the door, he says please and thank you, he just says things insanely inappropriate because he thinks they are funny. He calls it 'fixing stupid'. Sometimes I agree. The main advice he gave was 'EMPATHY EMPATHY EMPATHY, and tried to give examples on how to not hurt other people's feelings, which was completely empty, because Dr. Phil admitted (off stage and off camera) he does the exact same thing, and in other circumstances they would be great friends. The actual advice was maybe 5 minutes total out of a 43 minute show - the rest was him making fun of everyone. Not even close to a valid psychological approach. THe show is definitly only for entertainment purposes. The other guests seemed to have the same train of thought - this is a joke, but wanted to see behind the scenes anyways - there was a girl who interrupted everything, an insanely hypocritical author, and a fairly amusing comedienne. The author, Amy Alkon, was full of poo poo. She acted outraged by my dad's behavior - but is one of the most condescending people I have ever met. While I was in 'make-up', I could hear her being horrid to the hair dresser in the next room, bragging about how she is so nice to telemarketers - and then calls the head of the telemarketing company at their home, and charges them an obscene amount ($2000 dollars or so) for her time. Apparently one did not pay up, and she took them to court in an incredibly non-professional manner. I think think is a hilarious method, but by no mean is she the paragon of polite society she tries to portray herself as. We still don't know when the episode will be aired - they are supposed to call us. We didn't get payed, though I was entirely expecting it. The main reason I wanted to go (other than a free mini vacation from hectic classes) was to see what it actually is like behind the scenes of exploitative shows. I almost wish it was Jerry Springer, because everyone was just fake nice on Dr. Phil, which may just be Hollywood. The producer just laughed when I asked about how they handle 'I've got a secret' episodes. As for the bored housewives and national audience - the whole taping even took maybe two hours, wasn't traumatizing, and neither of us did anything to damage any prospective careers. They paid roughly $3000 to fly us out, got two nice rooms in a fairly fancy hotel, and almost bent over backwards to make things convenient. Niether of us expected anything major or groundbreaking or even useful, only something amusing, and a good story to tell. satiat fucked around with this message at Nov 09, 2009 around 00:34 |
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How did they hear about your dad to begin with? Did your family submit some tapes of him being a prick, or did you guys just write and they sent a 'secret' crew to follow him in his normal life?
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I honestly don't know - I think my dad wrote in (he has a lot of free time and ADD), I only found out when I called my parents to ask what they were doing for dinner, and my mom answered the phone, and said my dad was talking to producer of dr Phil. I didn't believe them until the producer called to interview me. They only did phone interviews, and we didn't actually meet anyone until the morning of - I have a feeling we were just filler for the topic they wanted to do. One disgusting thing about Hollywood - everyone thought I was sleeping with my dad. He is my step dad, so I call him by his first name, and we look nothing alike - but I am 20, he is 44. I had to explain to everyone that no, I assure you, I do have a hotel room reserved just for me, look under my name, and no, I promise you, I am not sharing a dressing room with my dad. (As in they shoved clothes at us and closed the door, not just me being prissy.)   The sticker on the mug reads "PROP 65 :This product contains chemicals known to the State of California to cause cancer and/or birth defects or other reproductive harm." I live in Texas, and to see this for the first time on a drinking mug was unsettling.
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Your family are the type of people that go onto shows like those - ones that are loving retarded. You're complaining that you were abused for ratings when a member of your family writes in to the show and asks to be on it. I'm sorry, but any person who feels like they need to go in front of an audience of millions to air their dirty laundry deserves everything they get. You didn't have to go. Now millions of people think that you sleep with your stepdad. Consider the judge shows as well. They actually scour local small claims court cases and try to find more interesting ones. They'll fly them out to the "courtroom" and "Judge" Judy will judicate. Ever wonder why people go on these shows and make a loving embarrassment of themselves? The show will pay whatever you owe if you lose. If someone is suing you for $4,500.00 and the show picks you up, and you lose, the show pays the money and in turn everyone gets to laugh at you. Like I said before, the guy made some amazing steps in life in order to get to where he is. If you decide to listen to Dr. Phil over your actual physician or psychiatrist then it's your own drat fault. There's other shows like The Doctors, Dr. Oz and that whore-slut Rachel Ray out there too that all have their annoying poo poo to them, but they're at the top of their game and have achieved something in life that most of us will never experience.
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| # ? Nov 09, 2009 01:20 |
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Dr. Video Games 0050 posted:Your family are the type of people that go onto shows like those - ones that are loving retarded. You're complaining that you were abused for ratings when a member of your family writes in to the show and asks to be on it. No, tell us how you really feel.
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L5 Death posted:I understood that Phil has a PhD in psychology, not psychiatry. And that psychology is about holding hands and not prescribing drugs because you're not a medical doctor. Someone please correct me. This is true. He lost his license for sexual misconduct like 10+ years ago.
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| # ? Nov 09, 2009 02:40 |
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satiat posted:
To be fair that is on EVERYTHING in California.
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| # ? Nov 09, 2009 02:54 |
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Dr. Video Games 0050 posted:Your family are the type of people that go onto shows like those - ones that are loving retarded. You're complaining that you were abused for ratings when a member of your family writes in to the show and asks to be on it. Err. I am not complaining. I am just talking about it. We knew it was going to be a circus, and were ok with that. If I had met some who went on this kind of show before I did, I would have hundreds of questions - do they pay you, do you get a script, are you an actor. It's entertainment. And it's not like any dirty laundry was aired - my dad is rude, so what. Everyone that has ever met him knows that. No where did anyone suggest that I was sleeping with my step dad - just that relationships between young women and old men are so common in Hollywood that is assumed until corrected. I am just sharing this to make conversation - if I was pissed off or bothered by it, I wouldn't have gone on the show, or posted about it online after. The only one that seems to be upset is you. I think everyone should at least see a show like that being taped - it is a mind gently caress. The sound people sneaking around like ninjas to stay out of view of the cameras, the camera men running after the host - the best people there were the techs.
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