Mark Clark posted:

I am starting a [Personal Log]-- yeah, for the third time-- for the lulz, lulz for which I have much need.

Have at it. I need no introduction. I'll be posting my thoughts periodically.

For those wondering what happened to me after I graduated from [redacted]in 2005, I spent a year in graduate school, took an internship on Wall Street during the summer after, and left grad school to work in New York. I worked on the Street for two years at 2 different companies. 2008 happened and needs no discussion. I'm now at a 4-person technology company in stealth mode, but our product will be really cool when it launches (hopefully spring). I have no interest in returning to finance, and will probably move to Silicon Valley if my current startup is not successful. I'm a programmer, as one must be in a startup, and currently teaching myself Haskell.

For those who knew me in my wilder days: I've calmed down a bit, as I had a beautiful, intelligent, and funny girlfriend in 2006-08. We met in [some city] and were together for 2 years, but life took us in opposite directions, and I've always been unable (and, at this age, unwilling) to handle long-distance relationships. Now I'm single in Manhattan, which is not nearly as exciting as it seems. The single American girls here are about as bad as the Roissy nightmare depicts them as being. The saving grace of New York is its internationalism and diversity, which is awesome.

Interesting fact about me: I also have a lulzy illness known as hypergraphia-- compulsive writing-- a hilarious result of which was compulsive internet trolling between 2000 and 2009. I've mostly killed this problem off by occupying myself with zany (but constructive and helpful, rather than nasty and weird, as my trolling was) freelance writing projects.

Mark Clark in the same post posted:

I'm a quiet supporter and advisor (of sorts) to the MRA (Mens' Rights Advocacy) movement. I won't "out" my pseudonym, but most of the MRA community is aware of this identity. I am trying to inject some sanity into that scene, which was traditionally the province of right-wingers and connected to an "angry white male" culture. I think it's important, if MRA is to have any hope of going mainstream and influencing policy, that MRA: (1) recognize that moderate feminism (gender equality) is not an enemy, and actually much needed in most of the world (e.g. India, China), (2) evict all vestiges of racism (including so-called "HBD" junk-science) from the movement, and (3) reconcile with the liberal cause, since both MRA and liberalism are about social justice at root.

Okay. Feel free to discuss whatever you wish. Have fun.

Mark posted:

MRA: Mens' Rights Advocacy. Essentially, it's the drive for social equality of men through opposition to man-hating practices such as (1) the "all men are rapists" attitude, when surprise sex is a disgusting crime that horrifies most men, (2) all-'is-money (often shortened to "alimony") and (3) the encouragement of female casual sex in TV shows like Sex and the City. Although the majority of women would never do so, we live in the only country in the world where a woman can decide she's "just not feeling chemistry" with her husband, divorce him unilaterally, shack up with her illiterate redneck boyfriend, steal his children, and divert the bulk of his income into the lottery-ticket budget of her new "family". (Obviously, she won't marry Biff, lest she lose alimony.)

Since gender dynamics are not zero-sum, the more moderate elements of MRA are actually quite well-aligned with moderate feminism (but not the "all sex is surprise sex" postmodernist bullshit) on the plank of gender equality. Moderate feminism's not an enemy. Feminism is much-needed in most of the world (e.g. China, India, Saudi Arabia, and even the more benighted regions of this country).

As for Roissy: taken at face value, he's a huge jerk, but I think most of what he says is tongue-in-cheek. He's an entertainer, not a serious essayist. The Roissy character is symbolic of the type of disgusting "alpha" male who prospers in an environment of sexual permissiveness.

I'm more a fan of Cless Alvein, a liberal and anti-racist MRA. I tend also to agree with him that the post-Sex and the City wave of female misbehavior is actually tied to other cultural problems, including casual racism.

Let me explain. Among college-educated women in large cities, whites tend to be more promiscuous on average than blacks, and there's a historical reason why. In the 1960s-70s, casual racism was still strong and most white men were afraid to marry interracially, so white women could get away with having 10+ sexual partners in their 20s because enough of "their men" would put up with that poo poo in order to have a white wife. Of course, this is not remotely true in 2009, and the Sex and the City girls are freaking the gently caress out, which is why they (preachin' from that white-girl pedestal) pipe out so many unflattering stereotypes about "their men" marrying women of other races (e.g. we "can't get white women" or "want submissive housewives").

For those who don't know, I'm a white American, so I don't have a bone to pick. However, I've never dated an American-born white woman (I love American/Caribbean blacks and Eastern Europeans, so it's not Americans or whites that I have a problem with) and it'll probably stay that way, statistically speaking. As with every other ethnicity, there are plenty of great white women out there, but simply not enough to match up to all our men, so many of us are going to be out-marrying if we want quality. This is fine by me, because there are so many beautiful, amazing women in the world, and New York is a fabulously diverse place, but I feel sorry for the men for whom moving abroad or to a large city is not an option.

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I am not trolling right now. I am trying to quit the addiction, and I'm actually in therapy for my mild OCD/hypergraphia.

I have a lot of valid things to say, and there's a lot of benefit in saying them in my no-punches-pulled manner, but when I engage in trolling behaviors (such as my "schticks" on troll havens such as Autoadmit, the "educated" 4chan) I only defeat my own purpose. Also, internet trolling is a massive waste of time, and I'm surprised I can afford any of it given that I work 65 hours per week.

Mark posted:

Although the "slut" epithet is worse than the "player" stigma, there are worse risks for men of casual sex (although both men and women end up losing). A man can be stuck paying 18 years of child support, while a woman can always abort-- as horrible as going through an abortion is, I think it's less gnarly than paying 18 years of child support for a person you never get to see-- and a man can be accused of surprise sex if the woman regrets the encounter later or sees it as a threat to her reputation.

Both genders lose in casual sex, because it leads to a nasty dating environment where sexual decisions are made way too early, and suspicions are present from the outset. Men can't get to know women because of their super-high defenses (and the men skilled at penetrating "bitch shields" are often the ones to worry about the most) and women complain of men who stop seeing them if they don't "put out" by date #3.

Also, the worst consequence of casual sex is what it does to the ability to form pair bonds. People who separate sexual desire from emotional intimacy are unleashing a monster that will wreck their minds for the rest of their lives. Once a woman gets a taste for casual cock, she's likely to divorce her husband as soon as her "chemistry" with him wanes, and over a lifelong marriage this is destined to happen (if the marriage is good, transiently with a quick rebound).

None of this is especially gendered. As a hard-line gender egalitarian, I think we should equalize the stigmas on casual sex, but by ostracizing "alpha" man-sluts rather than relaxing the female standard. Society is too permissive of female promiscuity, but way, way too tolerant of male promiscuity.

However, if you look at the distribution of casual sex, more women are doing it than men. In men, a few psychopaths get a lot of casual sex, leaving an inordinate number of wrecked, unmarriageable women. In women, more of them are having it occasionally, but with few "super-spreaders", to use the terminology of epidemiology, due to the slut stigma.

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Once a woman gets a taste for casual cock, she's likely to divorce her husband as soon as her "chemistry" with him wanes, and over a lifelong marriage this is destined to happen

TheLastBasselope posted:

if you're getting some kind of lib arts degree you are literally the worst person

Kimani posted:

Came in here expecting "BITCHES AND WHORES" level ramblings. But I'm not seeing anything particularly startling. The 'worst' is the last quote you posted, in which he seems to extrapolate a lot off the assumption:

Which isn't terribly accurate, no. His railing against casual sex is unfounded, but he reasonably acknowledges the slut/player hypocrisy, is opposed to the "all men are rapists" attitude, and is against the implicit favor the legal system gives to women in dispute cases. I can agree with those. He notes "Men can't get to know women because of their super-high defenses", which I can also agree with.

Not feeling it.

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we live in the only country in the world where a woman can decide she's "just not feeling chemistry" with her husband, divorce him unilaterally, shack up with her illiterate redneck boyfriend, steal his children, and divert the bulk of his income into the lottery-ticket budget of her new "family". (Obviously, she won't marry Biff, lest she lose alimony.)

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Misandrists/Feminists will tell you men who date and marry foreign women are weaklings and losers who are looking for submissive women because they can’t deal with strong women. In reality, it takes a lot of strength and courage to swim against the current, take the unconventional path, learn about foreign cultures, and travel the world for true love, and many men are finding it worth the effort.

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What I am saying is quite simple- white women will cheat on you, divorce you, act like total bitches, and make your life a living hell.

Indian women, asian women, etc- will be submissive to you, chaste, nicely mannered, graceful, and will make you life peaceful and happy.

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Feminism at it's root is an atheistic ideology. All of the different scriptures in the world say the same thing, whether it is the Bible, Qu'ran, Gita, etc: That a woman must be submissive to her husband. Failure to do so is a rejection of God. So feminism has turned women into atheistic whores incapable of raising children or being a good wife. And thus, our own strong faith in God is our greatest strength against feminism, which seeks to destroy the institution of marriage, family, and religion. Resistance to feminism is obedience to God.

BklynBruzer posted:

This guy pisses me the hell off, but extremism of any kind pisses me off - guys like this and crazy feminists piss me off equally. I'm solidly egalitarian, and I just don't understand people who think that men should be superior or women should be superior, or just that any particular group should be superior to any other.

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What I am saying is quite simple- white women will cheat on you, divorce you, act like total bitches, and make your life a living hell.

Indian women, asian women, etc- will be submissive to you, chaste, nicely mannered, graceful, and will make you life peaceful and happy.

Tony Danza Claus posted:

Dude just needs to date a bitch t'ain't crazy.

Tender Child Loins posted:

I'd feel bad for the girl.

Tony Danza Claus posted:

You're never gonna get buttsex with that attitude.

Tender Child Loins posted:

Why do I want buttsex again? I don't like where this is going

Tender Child Loins posted:

Why do I want buttsex again? I don't like where this is going

John Ra posted:

I agreed with some of his stuff.

John Ra posted:

I agreed with some of his stuff.

Tony Danza Claus posted:

Dude just needs to date a bitch t'ain't crazy.

Tender Child Loins posted:

Tell us so that we can berate you! It'll be so much fun.

Tender Child Loins posted:

Tell us so that we can berate you! It'll be so much fun.

John Ra posted:

Okay, I'll bite.

John Ra posted:

To start: "We live in the only country in the world where a woman can decide she's "just not feeling chemistry" with her husband, divorce him unilaterally, shack up with her illiterate redneck boyfriend, steal his children, and divert the bulk of his income into the lottery-ticket budget of her new "family". (Obviously, she won't marry Biff, lest she lose alimony.)"

John Ra posted:

To start: "We live in the only country in the world where a woman can decide she's "just not feeling chemistry" with her husband, divorce him unilaterally, shack up with her illiterate redneck boyfriend, steal his children, and divert the bulk of his income into the lottery-ticket budget of her new "family". (Obviously, she won't marry Biff, lest she lose alimony.)"

John Ra posted:

To start: "We live in the only country in the world where a woman can decide she's "just not feeling chemistry" with her husband, divorce him unilaterally, shack up with her illiterate redneck boyfriend, steal his children, and divert the bulk of his income into the lottery-ticket budget of her new "family". (Obviously, she won't marry Biff, lest she lose alimony.)"

John Ra posted:

Okay, I'll bite.

To start: "We live in the only country in the world where a woman can decide she's "just not feeling chemistry" with her husband, divorce him unilaterally, shack up with her illiterate redneck boyfriend, steal his children, and divert the bulk of his income into the lottery-ticket budget of her new "family". (Obviously, she won't marry Biff, lest she lose alimony.)"

John Ra posted:

Okay, I'll bite.

To start: "We live in the only country in the world where a woman can decide she's "just not feeling chemistry" with her husband, divorce him unilaterally, shack up with her illiterate redneck boyfriend, steal his children, and divert the bulk of his income into the lottery-ticket budget of her new "family". (Obviously, she won't marry Biff, lest she lose alimony.)"