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ghostwritingduck
Aug 26, 2004

"I hope you like waking up at 6 a.m. and having your favorite things destroyed. P.S. Forgive me because I'm cuter than that $50 wire I just ate."


On November 11, 2009, former Ghost Hunters team member Donna LaCroix appeared as a guest on the internet paranormal radio show Ghost Divas where she claimed that some evidence on both Ghost Hunters and Ghost Hunters International was faked and that the producers had a staging crew. She said she could not specify which evidence was faked at the risk of legal repercussions, but also added that the producers of the show had requested her to "act" in certain scenes.

http://ghostdivas.mypodcast.com/200911_archive.html

I know many people already assumed the show was fake, but I still think this is a major blow to the show's presumed credibility. Donna was an original cast member and with the show for an extended period of time.

I'm hoping we hear something from the other original cast members who are suspiciously missing from the show: Brian Harnois and Andy Andrews.

Like I said, none of this is too surprising so far, but hopefully it leads to something larger.

EDIT: Before you attack me for thinking the show was real, reread this post and reflect on your lack of reading comprehension.

ghostwritingduck fucked around with this message at Nov 14, 2009 around 22:32

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sants
May 17, 2003

free beavis


"presumed credibility" from who exactly?


MY ELECTROMETER IS OFF THE CHARTS!!!!!!!!!!!

bonestructure
Sep 25, 2008

He who is not impatient is not in love

"Did you hear that? Oh God, did you just hear that?"

Color me really, really surprised.

kazmeyer
Jul 26, 2001

Oh! He aint pretty no more!


ghostwritingduck posted:

I know many people already assumed the show was fake

People with brains not made out of Silly Putty and bailing wire, you mean?

Biplane
Jul 18, 2005

Alt for Norge


WHAT DO YOU MEAN IT WASN'T REAL

Toclafane
Sep 14, 2007

The skies are made of diamonds.

It's still real to me, dammit.

max4me
Jun 15, 2003

if my writing looks like work of a dyslexic monkey, well I am one of the two

of course its fake, now the other siders on CN real....

blue_korat
Nov 13, 2009


I always figured the scenes where she's calling them with a case is staged as well as their little meetings where she explains what the case is. What always got me was the info they would get at that first meeting and what they shared in their drive to said location were almost always different. Same with the set up. What they shared then sounds different than what they shared in the first meeting or the drive.

joe944
Jan 31, 2004

Oh stop! That tickles..

Anyone who thought that show was real is very, very dumb.

bonestructure
Sep 25, 2008

He who is not impatient is not in love

I flipped past it the other night and they were doing some kind of Ghost Hunters academy thing, and the subject was EVP.

Instructor: (plays garbled static noise) See, that's a communication... listen.. he's saying "WHY ARE YOU HERE!"

Newbie Trainee: Oh, oh, I have one too! (plays identical garbled static noise)

Instructor: No, that's just background.

Newbie Trainee:

hall n oates mom
Jul 17, 2000

- and I no longer smack kufis; I only smack skullies, and pirate hats


I must have traces of protohuman ESP potential, because I knew this the second I read the premise of the show

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004



What is really funny to me is that she says only some of the things on the show are fake. How about the entire thing? Mainly the part about ghosts which is the entire point of the show.

 Lincoln`s Wax
May 01, 2000
Cereal has no respect for royalty!

Of course it's all fake but it was never as bad as those british shows they run on the Travel channel that use psychics and all that. I tried watching the International one but it's all run by even bigger douches and between that stupid irish guy and the dick from Boston seeing "shadow people" running around, that kinda rung the final bell for the show being even remotely fun.

The best episodes were the ones where they called people on their poo poo, like the "blue lady" one where the place had secret speakers and poo poo installed everywhere and the one on that Queen Mary ship where the staff of the ship broke into their rooms and tried to make it look like the sheets were being taken off the beds by ghosts.

Devor
Nov 30, 2004
Lurking more.

What next, will they tell me that mythbusters don't use rigorous and scientifically sound methodology?

Kraustofski
Jun 21, 2007
Final Fantasy Sucks! LOL!

Anyone who gives any sort of Ghost Hunting show any credibility is very, very misguided about how the world works.

"OH MY GOD DID YOU JUST SEE THAT OH gently caress RUN"

Later on:

"Yeah we totally saw a ghost tonight our advanced HP laptop with a webcam stuck in it detected the ghosty."

Tornado Lazers
Mar 04, 2008
VAGINA AVOIDER AND LEADER OF THE BIBLE STUDY GROUP.


I said come in! posted:

What is really funny to me is that she says only some of the things on the show are fake. How about the entire thing? Mainly the part about ghosts which is the entire point of the show.

Well they are still creeping around in spooky locations, that's not faked!

Chilly McFreeze
Mar 04, 2007

Or perhaps Ice Dagger.

Chilly McFreeze fucked around with this message at Nov 16, 2009 around 23:09

OdorousTobacco
Oct 17, 2005
I get the chills thinking that one day this fuckwit may be right

Oh God, the GBS sperg brigade is already present and accounted for.

I always liked Ghost Hunters as a show, but I'm not surprised that it's staged. That doesn't mean I'm going to rage "GHOSTS AREN'T REAL GUYZ" on the internet.

I've never watched that Paranormal State show, but I just found out that it's completely staged, and made to be like a combination of The Hills and Ghost Hunters. Unsurprising, it's produced by the creators of Laguna Beach.

jngshin
Feb 16, 2005
D'evils

OP fails. You're hopelessly naive if you saw this show as anything less than 100% fake/staged/acted. Also, watch the South Park episode.

ghostwritingduck
Aug 26, 2004

"I hope you like waking up at 6 a.m. and having your favorite things destroyed. P.S. Forgive me because I'm cuter than that $50 wire I just ate."


I said come in! posted:

What is really funny to me is that she says only some of the things on the show are fake. How about the entire thing? Mainly the part about ghosts which is the entire point of the show.

The use of EMF meters and EVPs may be misguided, but it's not outright deception. This is more of an accusation of intentional fakery.

kazmeyer
Jul 26, 2001

Oh! He aint pretty no more!


OdorousTobacco posted:

I always liked Ghost Hunters as a show, but I'm not surprised that it's staged. That doesn't mean I'm going to rage "GHOSTS AREN'T REAL GUYZ" on the internet.

Nobody's raging, we're just making fun of the people whose brains don't work properly.

Georgia Peach
Jan 07, 2005

SECESSION IS FUTILE

Give me a break, OP.

The next thing you'll try and get me to believe is that John Edward can't commune with the dead!

Sup Bro
Nov 01, 2008


Wait, it's on the sci-fi channel, and some people think it's real?

ghostwritingduck
Aug 26, 2004

"I hope you like waking up at 6 a.m. and having your favorite things destroyed. P.S. Forgive me because I'm cuter than that $50 wire I just ate."


jngshin posted:

OP fails. You're hopelessly naive if you saw this show as anything less than 100% fake/staged/acted. Also, watch the South Park episode.

I never gave my opinion actually.

Nekodoshi
Aug 04, 2007
As a misunderstood child with severe ADHD and easily an IQ higher than that of all my classmates (130, I shit you not.),

OdorousTobacco posted:

Oh God, the GBS sperg brigade is already present and accounted for.

I always liked Ghost Hunters as a show, but I'm not surprised that it's staged. That doesn't mean I'm going to rage "GHOSTS AREN'T REAL GUYZ" on the internet.

I've never watched that Paranormal State show, but I just found out that it's completely staged, and made to be like a combination of The Hills and Ghost Hunters. Unsurprising, it's produced by the creators of Laguna Beach.

Nooooo, really? Does that mean that Chip is only pretending to be blatantly gay? Was the whole Psychic Kids thing also a load of bull? My mother shall be devastated because she loves that show!
Of course, my mom also likes Maury and all those stupid TV court shows.

Spermy Smurf
Jul 02, 2004
Viva la Malarky




Chilly McFreeze posted:



I dont get this... Black guy talking, then runs away for no reason? Or does the guy behind him poke him or something?

pacman
May 07, 2003


PARADOL EX FAN CLUB

Pretty much believing in ghosts and anything else that is considered paranormal or supernatural in the first place is a litmus test of stupidity.

anathenema
Apr 08, 2009


It's fake, yeah, but I'm less irritated about that than I am about how poorly the stage is set. I love ghost stories, ghost movies, ghost shows, such as the Discovery channel's A Haunting (apparently, everyone is much more attractive when they're being haunted than when they give their witness accounts). Those all have the idea in common that it's one man or woman or family against something supernatural, unobservable and unstoppable.

When you come in with a game plan, portly fellows, a lot of paranormal activity readers and technology like that, it sort of ruins the haunting vibe. All it is, at that point, is Ghostbusters without anything funny. It's about as menacing as a David Attenborough documentary except without the imminent possibility of an elephant seal attack.

Mr. Blastaway
Jun 23, 2004



Devor posted:

What next, will they tell me that mythbusters don't use rigorous and scientifically sound methodology?
Hey, don't compare Mythbusters to this horseshit.

Spermy Smurf posted:

I dont get this... Black guy talking, then runs away for no reason? Or does the guy behind him poke him or something?
I'm guessing they paid this guy to act like a stereotypical black person from the 30's and 40's.

Mr. Blastaway fucked around with this message at Nov 14, 2009 around 22:41

Happy Hippo
Aug 08, 2004



People actually believe in ghosts

Ape Agitator
Feb 19, 2004

Soylent Green is Monkeys

Well, as long as wrestling is real I can deal with this news.

gnarstache
Sep 17, 2008



I know who's responsible...

Affe mk2
Mar 09, 2004

Chicks dig giant robots

Sup Bro posted:

Wait, it's on the sci-fi channel, and some people think it's real?
No, it's on the SyFy channel.

Super Aggro Crag
Apr 23, 2008


Even if Ghost Hunters is fake, I love the show regardless. I like to suspend my disbelief when watching shows like that, and since I believe in entities to some extent it makes it all the better. Most of the investigations take place in New England where I live, and since they've even done some episodes in the city I live in, its awesome to watch. I also happen to like all the investigators. During the first few seasons they had cast members I didn't really like, but they replaced them all with better people. Steve and Tango are pretty funny, and from what I hear, good people (my friend met Tango at a bar and he bought my friend a few drinks). Kris is also cute as hell and she lives about 45 minutes from me.

Plus, in comparison with other paranormal shows, like the one with the British cast or even the new Ghost Lab on the Discovery Channel, I think Ghost Hunters reigns supreme. Any show that uses psychics instantly loses credibility with me. I had high hopes for Ghost Lab, but its too unrealistic for me (even though Mike Rowe is the narrator). It seems like in every episode of Ghost Lab they catch some amazing piece of evidence, while in Ghost Hunters sometimes they don't catch anything an entire episode. Not to mention that they try to disprove things as opposed to blindly accepting them. Ghost Lab tried to say they caught an EVP of John Wilkes Booth last week, give me a break.

One cool thing that I notice though, are the different beliefs between Ghost Hunters and Ghost Lab. In GH they dismiss things if there are high EMF ratings due to wiring or whatever due to it causing paranoia, nausea, etc. But in GL they believe that if there are high EMF ratings it can provoke entities by giving them "more juice" to use.

RazorBunny
May 23, 2007

Sometimes I feel like this.



The audience for this show are the same people who caused the engines to be removed from the bowels of the Queen Mary so they could install a bunch of projectors and poo poo. The only tour you can take of the engineering section is the stupid haunting tour.

Likewise when I was trying to take pictures of old tombstones in Boston I kept having to dodge the "Ghosts and Hauntings" tour idiots.

Can't we just enjoy historical sites without having to imagine they're full of ghosts?

 Lincoln`s Wax
May 01, 2000
Cereal has no respect for royalty!

Mr. Blastaway posted:

Hey, don't compare Mythbusters to this horseshit.
I'm guessing they paid this guy to act like a black stereotypes.

Adam and Jamie hate each other in real life and they ran out of ideas a few seasons ago so they just blow up a car every episode to distract people.

modeski
Apr 21, 2005

The less you know the better, under the circumstances.

While this is little surprise, I blame the American TV industry and the way they make their shows. Something always has to be going on, it has to be exciting. It's all rapid editing, punchy music and over-dramatisation. A proper ghost-hunting show (if you'll indulge me), would be quite content with there being no spooky goings on. I'd be more than happy if the crew showed up at a haunted house, whipped out all their gear and recorded nothing out of the ordinary. Of course, most people (advertisers) wouldn't see that as good TV.

Mr. Blastaway
Jun 23, 2004



Super Aggro Crag posted:

Even if Ghost Hunters is fake, I love the show regardless. I like to suspend my disbelief when watching shows like that, and since I believe in entities to some extent it makes it all the better.
See, I could understand this for shows that have the goofy reenactments of stories, but Ghost Hunters is far too idiotic for me to suspend my disbelief for even a moment. The second they bring out and kind of meter or audio recorder I tune out. I've only watched a little bit of it, but do they believe in orbs?

nau
Jun 26, 2003


News flash everyone! There's no such thing as the supernatural!

Kid Awesome
Sep 24, 2009

by Fistgrrl


Mr. Blastaway posted:

Hey, don't compare Mythbusters to this horseshit.


Yeah! Ghost Hunters might actually be worth watching once in a while!

RazorBunny posted:

Can't we just enjoy historical sites without having to imagine they're full of ghosts?

Try going to New Orleans, I'd like to think you would explode in rage.

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