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MrTheDevious
May 7, 2006

Ahh nostalgia, you cruel bitch


Aafter posted:

On day 2, all I can think about is smoking. My skins on fire and I hate everyone.

This, so much this. SO much this. If I had a box full of small puppies and bunny rabbits, I would happily feed them to a wood chipper at this point

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Toucan Sam
Sep 2, 2000


Aafter posted:

On day 2, all I can think about is smoking. My skins on fire and I hate everyone.

I haven't smoked in over 2yrs but all i dream about is smoking, which helps even if i wake up feeling guilty and wanting a cigarette. Get used to it because it doesn't really go away. The government finally won, they taxed my vice so far that smoking costs more than my car payment even though i have actual health insurance that i pay for myself.

MrTheDevious
May 7, 2006

Ahh nostalgia, you cruel bitch


Toucan Sam posted:

I haven't smoked in over 2yrs but all i dream about is smoking, which helps even if i wake up feeling guilty and wanting a cigarette. Get used to it because it doesn't really go away. The government finally won, they taxed my vice so far that smoking costs more than my car payment even though i have actual health insurance that i pay for myself.

I wish humanity would figure out time travel so I could go back 6 years and beat the poo poo out of myself for ever starting

Sandweed
Sep 7, 2006

War so serious?


Every time I have a smoke I get this weird pain in my right leg just below the knee. Is this a good indicator that I should stop smoking?

Bruce Hussein Daddy
Dec 26, 2005

I testify that there is none worthy of worship except God and I testify that Muhammad is the Messenger of God


No, keep smoking.

I have an advice that helped me. Imagine the smoking craving as a battery powered smoke detector. It blinks once a minute, but every blink is weaker than the one before and as the battery dies it gets weaker and weaker and weaker. It may continue to blink for A LONG TIME but eventually it will be so weak it is imperceptible.

iostream.h
Mar 14, 2006
I want your happy place to slap you as it flies by.



Last cigarette on Friday, January 27, 2012.
I just finally got fed up, along with the prices on a pack of smokes up here (Jesus Christ how does anyone smoke at over $8.00/pack???) and having gotten pretty hardcore into bicycling just made me snap and realize I really was done.

I stopped by Wal-Mart, grabbed some of those Nicorette mint lozenges and other than the first 3-5 days I've been doing ok.

I got lots of unsweetened juice, a couple bags of blood oranges, some bananas and raw almonds and whenever I feel hungry grab those or broccoli/cauliflower and that's it.

I still have cravings (duh) but at this point it's NOWHERE near as bad as it was last week.

MrTheDevious
May 7, 2006

Ahh nostalgia, you cruel bitch


What works best for you guys when it comes to the nicotine replacement? Patches/gum/lozenges? I am going to murder the entire world with a rusty spoon if I keep trying this cold turkey and I'd rather buy something than get fired for being a huge dick

panorama_change
May 23, 2008

Inertia is a property of matter.


GodIsInTheTrees posted:

What works best for you guys when it comes to the nicotine replacement? Patches/gum/lozenges? I am going to murder the entire world with a rusty spoon if I keep trying this cold turkey and I'd rather buy something than get fired for being a huge dick

I think it's just a matter of finding what works for you. All nicotine replacement I tried (e-cigs, gum, snus) just made it harder for me to quit. Cold turkey is the only method I've tried that works. Gum and flavored toothpicks helped tremendously with the oral fixation. Good luck!

kolider
Sep 25, 2007


GodIsInTheTrees posted:

What works best for you guys when it comes to the nicotine replacement? Patches/gum/lozenges? I am going to murder the entire world with a rusty spoon if I keep trying this cold turkey and I'd rather buy something than get fired for being a huge dick

Yeah, it really varies from person to person. Personally, I couldn't stand the replacement stuff. I tried patches for a few days - didn't work. Tried gum for a couple of weeks - didn't work. Tried the inhaler for a little while - didn't hold.

Cold Turkey was really the only way I could do it. 3 days and the nicotine is out of your system then it just becomes a mental battle. Always remember that smoking is two addictions in one: nicotine (drug dependance) and in the mind (a mental thing/a general habit) that needs breaking.

If you can at least get one of the two completely out of the way (in a matter of days) then it gives you a much better chance of kicking the habit altogether. At least in my eyes.

JackRabbitStorm
Apr 24, 2008

Bitch betta have my money!


iostream.h posted:


I stopped by Wal-Mart, grabbed some of those Nicorette mint lozenges and other than the first 3-5 days I've been doing ok.


I did the gum and the lozenges.

Gum didn't work for poo poo, the lozenge sort of kind of worked, but I still slipped up quite a few times.

Ended up getting an eCig, and thats working great for me so far on the step down program.

iostream.h
Mar 14, 2006
I want your happy place to slap you as it flies by.



GodIsInTheTrees posted:

What works best for you guys when it comes to the nicotine replacement? Patches/gum/lozenges? I am going to murder the entire world with a rusty spoon if I keep trying this cold turkey and I'd rather buy something than get fired for being a huge dick
I love the Nicorette mint flavored lozenge. The other flavors and brands just tasted like rear end to me.

KingEup
Nov 18, 2004
I am a REAL ADDICT
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Please ask me for my google inspired wisdom on shit I know nothing about. Actually, you don't even have to ask.


GodIsInTheTrees posted:

What works best for you guys when it comes to the nicotine replacement? Patches/gum/lozenges? I am going to murder the entire world with a rusty spoon if I keep trying this cold turkey and I'd rather buy something than get fired for being a huge dick

Why not try a mouth or nasal spray?

http://www.nicotinedirect.co.uk/

grendelspov
Jun 12, 2008



kolider posted:

Yeah, it really varies from person to person. Personally, I couldn't stand the replacement stuff. I tried patches for a few days - didn't work. Tried gum for a couple of weeks - didn't work. Tried the inhaler for a little while - didn't hold.

Cold Turkey was really the only way I could do it. 3 days and the nicotine is out of your system then it just becomes a mental battle. Always remember that smoking is two addictions in one: nicotine (drug dependance) and in the mind (a mental thing/a general habit) that needs breaking.

If you can at least get one of the two completely out of the way (in a matter of days) then it gives you a much better chance of kicking the habit altogether. At least in my eyes.

Agree with this. I started smoking again after having quit for 6 years (divorce, gently caress you). Pack a day, plus, right now. I told my (new) wife that, when I quit, which will be soon, I need a weekend to detox and be left the gently caress alone. Want to go to Michael's, lunch, the grocery store, anything? No. gently caress you.

I quit cold turkey last time and I felt like I had spiders in my blood for about two days. After that, it's all good. Smoke smells nasty. After one day.

I had to not light up when I got into my car, ate, hosed, had a bad day at work. Habit. Not addiction.

If you can make it two days, and you're me, you're golden. That's my experience, anyway. During the first two days, I'll punch your granny in the face for a drag. After that, it's all about changing habits. The chemical addiction seems to break pretty quickly.

rxcowboy
Sep 13, 2008

I have slipped the surly bonds of Earth; fucked both a chick and her mom

I will get anal. Oh yes.

24 hours without a smoke. I went all day without one yesterday, then smoked a half last night when I got off work. Now it's been a full 24 hours without one.


I want to murder the entire eastern seaboard, and I've been eating everything in site. I'm eating like I'm pregnant, my girlfriend told me "Even if you get really fat I'll still love you." Thanks for the vote of confidence babe, apparently I'm eating so goddamn much that I'm just going to sail right into Fat Bastard territory and by pass all other stages.

My dinner was a turkey wrap with double meat and double cheese, a family size bag of potato chips, a king size Almond Joy, and a bag of coconut M&Ms. And two gatorades, but they are the Lo-Cal ones so it's cool. The best part? I'm 6'3 and maybe 170 (for the next 15 minutes). I had a sandwich for a late night snack last night, woke up hungry 2 hours later and had another one. I've been skinny all my adult life, and I think i just found out why. loving cigarettes.

I can deal with the pissed off bit, a little meditation and I can work through it, and my coworkers are supportive as hell so that's cool. I just don't want to gain weight. Going to buy a shitload of vegetables like carrots and celery tomorrow, and more gum. Dear god am I blowing through gum.

KBD
Mar 24, 2010

get a butt


Start running or doing any type of aerobic exercise! You have a lot of anxious energy build up once you quit and no new routine to release it with, exercise helps you do exactly this while motivating you to stay smoke free. Also, getting hotter instead of fatter.

Tip
Mar 21, 2006

Your move, creep.


It's been over a month since I smoked my last cigarette. I thought after the first week was over that I was pretty much free and clear but I think I've come the closest to smoking in the last week. A couple days ago I was pretty inebriated and my friend was smoking and asked if I wanted one. I said no, and then fought with myself for about 10 seconds and then said, "Actually yes, give me one now please," and my friend refused to give me one.

If he had given me one I would have smoked the gently caress out of it. I was really tempted to ask another friend of mine for a drag off her cigarette yesterday, but I didn't. How is it that I'm more tempted now than I was weeks ago?

Ryuichi
Nov 4, 2004


E: Nevermind Going to pick up some Chantix and hopefully avoid the crazy w/d. In a month hopefully I'll be quit for good.

Ryuichi fucked around with this message at Feb 11, 2012 around 05:22

whoredog
Apr 10, 2002



I took a ride on the Chantix wagon again to quit smoking. Yah, it makes you a bit of a zombie. Yah, i'm sure it dulls your brain from being able to be happy about anything. Yah, the dreams were amazingly vivid. No other side-effects. I had actually quit a couple years ago but then while in my zombied/unable to feel happy mood my wife cheated on me and so i caved and started smoking again.

I feel like a bit of a cheater using chantix. I didn't get all RAAARGH!!! when quitting, it was just really loving annoying how often the idea came up that i wanted to smoke.

It's been a month since i've smoked, and i still get the thoughts to smoke a bunch, but my mantra is "whatever, the craving will be gone in 5 min".

Aafter
Apr 14, 2009

A is for After.

I ended up getting into stupid fight with my wife and bought a pack of smokes. On the upside, they tasted terrible. Where can i get some cheap nicotine anything? As I recall its all terribly expensive.

whoredog
Apr 10, 2002



Aafter posted:

I ended up getting into stupid fight with my wife and bought a pack of smokes. On the upside, they tasted terrible. Where can i get some cheap nicotine anything? As I recall its all terribly expensive.

Any drug store? Most grocery stores with a pharmacy will have some nicorette behind a case.

CanAm
Jan 4, 2009

Eh.


To any of those needing a push in the right direction-

I was a moderate to heavy smoker for 7 years. I quit January 4th, and I have never felt better.

My cardio improves every day, my immune system has been stronger, and I have tons more money in the bank.

Also, ecigs (disposable or rechargeable) are great to make that transition.

MegaGatts
Dec 12, 2004


Aafter posted:

I ended up getting into stupid fight with my wife and bought a pack of smokes. On the upside, they tasted terrible. Where can i get some cheap nicotine anything? As I recall its all terribly expensive.

I use snus for quitting. Camel makes tins that have 15 packets. Where I live they cost 3.07 after tax and you can get them at most gas stations.

Aafter
Apr 14, 2009

A is for After.

Snus seems a little counterproductive. A friend of mine was telling me they had nicotine gum at the dollar store. Cheap but awful. Is nicorette all that expensive these days?

High_Life
Sep 19, 2004

The Champagne of Goons

Aafter posted:

Snus seems a little counterproductive. A friend of mine was telling me they had nicotine gum at the dollar store. Cheap but awful. Is nicorette all that expensive these days?

I would disagree. I smoked between 1 and 2 packs for the last 10 years and quit with SNUS this January 1st. I'm 41 days in without a smoke and I've gone through about 1.5 cans of Snus. People will probably think it's gross, but I'll use the snu for more than a few days for about 10 minutes at a time or so. I had an empty can from a pack I used when traveling on planes and I use the empty tin to keep em going. Haven't used one for a few days now, and If i do it's going to be one that probably has all the nicotine sucked out of it over 3 days.

Aafter
Apr 14, 2009

A is for After.

Hm. Alright. Ill give it a shot.

Look Under The Rock
Oct 20, 2007

you can't take the sky from me


Aafter posted:

I ended up getting into stupid fight with my wife and bought a pack of smokes. On the upside, they tasted terrible. Where can i get some cheap nicotine anything? As I recall its all terribly expensive.

How's your health insurance? I called my doctor and he prescribed nicotine patches without me even needing to come in. With the prescription, I only had to pay my copay, which is evidently free for smoking cessation materials. Pretty sweet.

MrTheDevious
May 7, 2006

Ahh nostalgia, you cruel bitch


KingEup posted:

Why not try a mouth or nasal spray?

http://www.nicotinedirect.co.uk/

This actually looks like a legit solution. I can't do nasal sprays due to weird sinus issues, but mouth I could definitely go for. Though at this point it feels like I've already passed the peak of hatred for the world and am getting better, so I'm leaning toward just toughing it out for another few weeks

Aafter
Apr 14, 2009

A is for After.

Look Under The Rock posted:

How's your health insurance? I called my doctor and he prescribed nicotine patches without me even needing to come in. With the prescription, I only had to pay my copay, which is evidently free for smoking cessation materials. Pretty sweet.

I have fantastic health insurance. I'll see into that, too.

For now, I need the smoking to end.

Aafter fucked around with this message at Feb 11, 2012 around 08:27

Micromancer
Apr 17, 2002

He went out to the store
and when he got back
Roll-marks said .22 Short, jack.
If anything I could say that
this gun was rare
Its covered it sweat,
toilet water, and hair


Im 6 days clean after taking Welbutrin again. No panic, no withdrawl. It's a shame it doesn't help supress the triggers, but at least I answer them with oh, I quit rather than lighting up. This is my third time quitting like this, last two times I was 7 and 9 months before making dumb decisions. All it takes is 1 and I'm back to buying them at a pack and a half a day. If I can remember that, I should be able to keep this up.

WarrenH
Feb 19, 2010

derelict


XK posted:

I smoked 2 packs per day for 13 years. I spent a few months short of 13 years trying to quit smoking. After countless failed attempts, I quit cold-turkey 4.5 years ago, and haven't had one since.

Here are the winning strategies, as I experienced it.

1. Cold-turkey is powerful because it gives you a dividing-line between smoking and not smoking; leverage that line by considering yourself to be a non-smoker as soon as you cross it when you decide to quit.

2. It's easier to not smoke that next cigarette when you're a non-smoker, rather than an attempting-to-quit smoker. The attempting-to-quit smoker can always rationalize another smoke.

3. Don't make any excuses to have one cigarette on special occasions. Why would a non-smoker have a cigarette on some occasions?

4. Don't let yourself trick yourself into having just one because you are doing so good at not smoking. Pause to think about how retarded that logic is: having a cigarette to celebrate not having a cigarette. This makes even less sense for a nonsmoker.

5. Avoid drinking or other high-smoking-risk activities or situations for at least the first 2 weeks. For me this included things like large, indulgent meals, and smoking weed since I often subconsciously used tobacco as a cover smell. The longer you avoid high risk situations the better; I managed around 3 months.

6. Build momentum. The longer you go without smoking, the more time you've wasted if you smoke again. Every day you go without is an investment into the quit; if you gently caress up and smoke again, all that effort is wiped out. Think of it as a bank account. Once you get several months in, the momentum builds to such an extent that the loss you would experience by failing the quit become tangible. This momentum is one of the reasons why it's important to not make any excuses to smoke rarely, or on special occasions. It only takes one cigarette to break the momentum. If you're doing it right, when you have using-dreams, you'll feel incredibly guilty during, and even for a while after waking-up. Feeling awful about using-dreams is a great sign you are on the way to success.

7. There's a lot of mind trick to pulling off a cold-turkey quit. The night I started my cold-turkey quit, I mentally split myself into two entities, a smoker and a non-smoker. I identified me as the non-smoker, and the smoker as a rogue intruder who I banished to eternal imprisonment because he was trying to rob (expensive cigarettes) and murder (cancer) me through trickery. I actually spent several hours doing this, talking to myself. I invested effort in convincing myself about how terrible smoking is, how un-enjoyable it is, and facing and accepting all the real-world negative consequences of smoking, putting the smoker in me on a virtual trial before his banishment. There is a lot of denial about the consequences of smoking involved in being a smoker; if you force yourself to really face the reality of smoking, it becomes much harder to remain a smoker. I've never read the Carr book, but, from what I've heard, it would fit in really well here.

8. You have to really want to quit, for you, not anyone else. You have to really want it. If you aren't doing it for you, don't even bother, you will fail. You have to commit totally, and accept that any lingering desire is merely you torturing yourself. There's no sense in even entertaining the suffering of cravings if you have no intention of ever relenting to them. That smoker is yelling out from his imprisonment, but you pay no mind to it.

I believe all those withdrawal effects after the first day are almost entirely psychological. I refused to allow myself to acknowledge any withdrawal cravings, because I had no intention of failing, so it would be foolish to waste any energy toward them. I believe it is because of this that I did not experience any withdrawal effects what-so-ever.

Quitting smoking is one of the things in my life I am most proud of. I quit while living with a smoker, with constant easy access to cigarettes just a few feet away. Before I quit, but was aspiring to, I tried to imagine how I could go without cigarettes; I couldn't fathom it, the thought felt impossible and crushing. I've now come to the point where I NEVER think about smoking.

After so many years of failure, quitting smoking actually ended up being one of the easiest things I ever did, after my mind was in the right place.

This. Absolutely. Last week was my two year non-smoker anniversary after 20 years of smoking and a million failed quit attempts. It was all about getting my head in the right place, pulling the trigger, and not looking back.

Aafter
Apr 14, 2009

A is for After.

Snus for three days. Not a single cigarette. Found a flavor that (mostly) doesn't taste like poo poo.

InEscape
Nov 10, 2006

stuck.


Cold turkey. Day four.


Someone please remind me why it's incredibly stupid to be like "oh okay no I'll ONLY smoke when I'm drinking, and I'll make sure to limit my drinking to once a week or so " because I know it's dumb but my nicotine-craving-brain thinks it's the best idea in YEARS and that bottle is looking so inviting.

JackRabbitStorm
Apr 24, 2008

Bitch betta have my money!


Slipped up, went out heavy drinking Tuesday night for my brothers birthday and to celebrate my very recent engagement.

The fiancee and I ended up bumming a poo poo ton of smokes off my brother as we were trashed and it seemed like a good idea.

No cigarettes since then though, so thats good

nippythefish
Nov 20, 2007

Not such a bad gar, after all.


I quit being a pack-a-day smoker on January 1st because my wife decided to quit (piggybacking a New Year's resolution removes all notions of hypocrisy for thinking New Year's resolutions are retarded). Two weekends ago I had four smokes during a heavy drinking binge and I am now having a single cig a day at work. I know this is a horrible idea considering my past attempts at quitting and that I need to quit completely...but goddamn, if I don't just enjoy having that one. Urrgh.

KingEup
Nov 18, 2004
I am a REAL ADDICT
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Please ask me for my google inspired wisdom on shit I know nothing about. Actually, you don't even have to ask.


InEscape posted:

Cold turkey. Day four.


Someone please remind me why it's incredibly stupid to be like "oh okay no I'll ONLY smoke when I'm drinking, and I'll make sure to limit my drinking to once a week or so " because I know it's dumb but my nicotine-craving-brain thinks it's the best idea in YEARS and that bottle is looking so inviting.

That is the evil smoking man trying to manipulate you into feeding it nicotine. Tell him to shut up and that you're going to starve him to death for sabotaging your health and financial situation. This is going to be uncomfortable (for a short time) but it's the only way you'll learn to enjoy alcohol again - there's another good reason to kill the smoking man, he ruined your ability to enjoy it.

RaoulDuke12
Nov 9, 2004

The race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, but to those who see it coming and jump aside.

I've been lurking this thread for a year, but I finally up and quit January 21st, and i've only had one since then - a week later.

I went the patch route, and it's actually been really helpful because it separated the nicotine craving from the craving to smoke so that I could fight the two addictions one at a time. Now I can tell when I'm craving nicotine, but I associate it with a patch rather than a cigarette.

I step down to Step 3 on the patches on Saturday, and then I'm off nicotine on March 1. Wish me luck!

Oh and I feel great, by the way. I never had any of the shortness of breath or hacking stuff up, but my energy level is a lot more consistent and my clothes don't smell!

Micromancer
Apr 17, 2002

He went out to the store
and when he got back
Roll-marks said .22 Short, jack.
If anything I could say that
this gun was rare
Its covered it sweat,
toilet water, and hair


Aafter posted:

Snus for three days. Not a single cigarette. Found a flavor that (mostly) doesn't taste like poo poo.

The free snus with purchase of a pack of Marlboro is what got me back on them in the first place.

InEscape posted:

Cold turkey. Day four.


Someone please remind me why it's incredibly stupid to be like "oh okay no I'll ONLY smoke when I'm drinking, and I'll make sure to limit my drinking to once a week or so " because I know it's dumb but my nicotine-craving-brain thinks it's the best idea in YEARS and that bottle is looking so inviting.

You get trashed, smoke like hell. The next day you convince youself well I still have some left Ill just finish these off and then Im done til I drink again. The problem is, youll either find a reason to drink when you get low/run out to continue buying or youll find any number of reasons to NOT drink and still smoke. Quit or don't, special occasions just means the time you spend not smoking is miserable.

nippythefish posted:

I quit being a pack-a-day smoker on January 1st because my wife decided to quit (piggybacking a New Year's resolution removes all notions of hypocrisy for thinking New Year's resolutions are retarded). Two weekends ago I had four smokes during a heavy drinking binge and I am now having a single cig a day at work. I know this is a horrible idea considering my past attempts at quitting and that I need to quit completely...but goddamn, if I don't just enjoy having that one. Urrgh.

For me, I know I can't bum one smoke. One is all it takes to make my lungs cry for more and bring the cravings back full force. The first time you try to rationalize a second smoke in a day, remember that what you should be doing is not smoking at all.


My nose is already coming back and I can smell the stale smoke on everything in my room. I've already dropped the Welbutrin and things are normal for the most part. Just hope I can keep with it.

weede catte
Dec 23, 2010



I quit four months ago today. I tried smoking twice since when I was drunk but each time I was like "gently caress this" and tossed it in the gutter. Gum was what helped me quit. Best wishes, dudes... being able to smell stuff is pretty cool, although it came back gradually.

Look Under The Rock
Oct 20, 2007

you can't take the sky from me


KingEup posted:

it's the only way you'll learn to enjoy alcohol again - there's another good reason to kill the smoking man, he ruined your ability to enjoy it.

I actually find it a lot harder to enjoy alcohol since I quit smoking -- drinking upsets my stomach and I'd chain smoke to settle it. Since I quit I've had four beers at the most when drinking, just the tiniest buzz. It's making me a little crazy.

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KingEup
Nov 18, 2004
I am a REAL ADDICT
(to threadshitting)


Please ask me for my google inspired wisdom on shit I know nothing about. Actually, you don't even have to ask.


Look Under The Rock posted:

I actually find it a lot harder to enjoy alcohol since I quit smoking

Maybe it wasn't clear, but that was my point. It takes a while before you can enjoy it by itself again because the evil smoking man ruined it.

KingEup fucked around with this message at Feb 17, 2012 around 04:20

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