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SweeneyTodd
May 30, 2002

Forums Barber

If any of you guys are interested in learning about using e-cigs to help quit smoking, rather than fill up the thread, I'm just gonna say shoot me a PM or email quitsmokingnc@gmail.com. I offer online education sessions, the first one's free.

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KBD
Mar 24, 2010

get a butt


SweeneyTodd posted:

If any of you guys are interested in learning about using e-cigs to help quit smoking, rather than fill up the thread, I'm just gonna say shoot me a PM or email quitsmokingnc@gmail.com. I offer online education sessions, the first one's free.

What kind of rear end in a top hat provides "online education sessions" in something that requires none?

For people interested in the details and/or hobby aspect of vaping there is a HUGE online forum where hundreds of people share information for free:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/

Gothmog1065
May 14, 2009

PREASE WORK OUT


KBD posted:

What kind of rear end in a top hat provides "online education sessions" in something that requires none?

For people interested in the details and/or hobby aspect of vaping there is a HUGE online forum where hundreds of people share information for free:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/

Or if you want to stay in your safety zone, you can try the goon thread. It's only a measly

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit.


My girlfriend hates smoking (although she knows that I do it) and so when I'm with her I stop cold turkey; no withdrawal, no irritability, no problems. Weekends together, week long holidays, three months over the summer - I don't have a cigarette and I don't want one. Yet no matter how long it's been since my last fag, the minute I get on the train back home the cravings start. Within a week I'm normally back at it. Why is my brain so broken when it comes to these little white sticks?

Knifey McSpoon
Mar 3, 2009


big scary monsters posted:

My girlfriend hates smoking (although she knows that I do it) and so when I'm with her I stop cold turkey; no withdrawal, no irritability, no problems. Weekends together, week long holidays, three months over the summer - I don't have a cigarette and I don't want one. Yet no matter how long it's been since my last fag, the minute I get on the train back home the cravings start. Within a week I'm normally back at it. Why is my brain so broken when it comes to these little white sticks?

This is genius. You put yourself in a position where smoking = no pussy. Bang, cravings and withdrawal gone. The only problems is if you wanna stay quit you gotta marry this broad.

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit.


Haha, maybe I should write a book. Stop smoking with big scary monsters' SexyWay method.

FetusOvaries
Jun 16, 2010

I'll kiss you in the rain

Anyone else notice that they have a lingering cough several weeks after losing other symptoms of a cold/flu? This has happened to me for the past few years. I'm guessing that all that smoke gets caught by mucous and then irritates the gently caress out of my throat as it goes down. It's kind of a sign to me that I should quit as soon as possible.

Goobish
May 31, 2011


iostream.h posted:

A couple of friends of mine told me to try a drastically different style of beer than what I'm used to. Worked so far.

Thank you very much for this advice. It's officially been a week since I quit! I ended up eating a nicotene mint once, and felt a little guilty for that, but honestly I'm glad it was available otherwise I probably would have given in and smoked a cig. I've noticed I only crave in the morning and then about 9pm. The cravings have gotten weaker and shorter. So I'm guessing in about another week I've probably gotten through the worst of it. I'm actually proud of myself! Good luck everyone.

Booties
Apr 4, 2006

forever and ever

7.5 days in and I'm feeling a lot better. Only really having trouble after working a long shift or when I'm home with nothing to do except watch TV. Going to the gym really makes those days easier, as does spending time with my girlfriend. The problem now is that I realize smoking was a hobby of mine and I need a few other activities to distract me from having cravings.

I really think this time will work. I've already faced major temptation and refused so I'm very happy and feeling healthy.

Booties fucked around with this message at Feb 29, 2012 around 05:00

panorama_change
May 23, 2008

Inertia is a property of matter.


One year down.

OMG LOL BUTSEKZ
Dec 2, 2003

no butsekz plz.

I'm 4 1/2 months down but it doesn't really matter. This is the last time I will quit, and it feels loving awesome to say that. So many times I posted in this thread over the years with my head half in. Quitting seems hard but it's really not. Get past the withdrawals, then you can focus on breaking all those habits you've formed over the years. Educate yourself. http://whyquit.com/NTAP_large_print_212_pages.pdf This funky dude named Joel wrote a guide and it helped. Man, I used to hate myself for not being able to quit, but now it's all good Look forward to making my year though.

Rolo
Nov 16, 2005

Hmm, what have we here?

Hit 13 months two days ago

Any of you experienced quitters find a way to get your teeth white again? I brush twice daily with Listerine post whitening rinse and floss about every other day. My teeth have gone from smoker yellow to a dingy color, but I can't seem to get them remotely white.

KBD
Mar 24, 2010

get a butt


Rolo posted:

Hit 13 months two days ago

Any of you experienced quitters find a way to get your teeth white again? I brush twice daily with Listerine post whitening rinse and floss about every other day. My teeth have gone from smoker yellow to a dingy color, but I can't seem to get them remotely white.

I use the Arm & Hammer baking soda toothpaste and used the Aquafresh white trays for one week after I quit, it worked really well. It might depend on how long you smoked, how much coffee and tea you drink, and so on. Get thee to a dentist if you really want pearly whites.

Brinny-chan
Jul 7, 2007

Namely a Sergeant Knickerless Ass-wipe and Cuntstable Fanny Batterbum.

So just posting my update, according to that QuitNow Android app linked in the thread earlier:

quote:

Since February 21, 2012
20:00: 8 days smoke free, 114 cigarettes down, $47.51 and 0d 11h 24m saved!

This is definitely the longest I've ever gone cold turkey. I'm feeling pretty happy about things I've just been buying these disposable e-cigs from a local gas station that are nicotine free to help me with the hand to mouth habit. I think I'm going to buy a quality ecig and just keep with the nicotine-less juice, because I really enjoy the act of smoking something and that's been part of why I always go back to cigarettes.

Reading all these goon stories helps, so thanks to all the previous posters for sharing

Twat McTwatterson
May 31, 2011


Brinny-chan posted:

I think I'm going to buy a quality ecig and just keep with the nicotine-less juice, because I really enjoy the act of smoking something and that's been part of why I always go back to cigarettes.



re-read what you just wrote and rethink your logic.

Brinny-chan
Jul 7, 2007

Namely a Sergeant Knickerless Ass-wipe and Cuntstable Fanny Batterbum.

Twat McTwatterson posted:

re-read what you just wrote and rethink your logic.

I suppose I should have been more clear. I mean I enjoy the hand-to-mouth, inhaling, physical action of smoking. Not the smoke or the tar or the cancer or the smell, etc etc. I'm excited that (since ecigs are quite new in Canada, and nicotine-supplying ones are still illegal) there is a healthy alternative for me to fall back on that is helping me stay nicotine free without the temptation of a cigarette. That's all.

Twat McTwatterson
May 31, 2011


No, trust me, I understood what you meant.

It's the idea that you love smoking (and let's be honest, you love smoking cigarettes, not just the abstract idea of smoking), and that you can substitute your love of smoking cigarettes with smoking some vapor. Look dude, you love smoking cigs. It's ok, everyone in this thread does, basically.

It's ok to use the e-cigs, at first nicotine and then weaning into nicotine-free, but you'd be loving retarded to just keep smoking e-cig vapor when you are independent of tobacco. It keeps you in the same world, not even on the outer limits of that world, but still fully within in it.

You either quit or you don't.

edit: your mind is playing tricks on you... it will continue to do so.

Twat McTwatterson fucked around with this message at Mar 1, 2012 around 04:32

Poohat666
Jun 15, 2011

Believe for free!!!

Still quit from my last post a week or so ago. Does anyone else get raging hunger all day , no matter how much I eat I can't seem to get full... Im a fit and can usually control and have a small appetite. I have never went through the ferocious hunger bit before when quitting smoking. I dont want fat neckbeard!!!!!

scary ghost dog
Aug 5, 2007

...


Rolo posted:

Hit 13 months two days ago

Any of you experienced quitters find a way to get your teeth white again? I brush twice daily with Listerine post whitening rinse and floss about every other day. My teeth have gone from smoker yellow to a dingy color, but I can't seem to get them remotely white.

Pure white teeth are unnatural, so don't aim for that. Ask a dentist, it's their job.

exhale lively
Apr 18, 2008


Chiming in to report raging hunger as well. Been quit for three weeks as of tomorrow, and the hunger is not fading. Is this a mental thing, or was my appetite always like this and I just suppressed the hell out of it with smokes for a few years?

njark
Apr 26, 2008

Show them the Wasteland


exhale lively posted:

Chiming in to report raging hunger as well. Been quit for three weeks as of tomorrow, and the hunger is not fading. Is this a mental thing, or was my appetite always like this and I just suppressed the hell out of it with smokes for a few years?

i ate quite a bit for about the first month when i quit. i couldn't stop eating cheeze-its but it's better than smoking. it will slow down.

KBD
Mar 24, 2010

get a butt


exhale lively posted:

Chiming in to report raging hunger as well. Been quit for three weeks as of tomorrow, and the hunger is not fading. Is this a mental thing, or was my appetite always like this and I just suppressed the hell out of it with smokes for a few years?

It's a combination of oral fixation (feeling like something is missing, you're not satisfied, you must ingest whatever makes you feel as satisfied as when smoking), loss of a coping mechanism where food becomes the replacement, and increased taste as well as appetite.

Just keep track of how much you are eating and exercise more, which asides from weight control also helps speed up lung recovery and bumps your mood up.

exhale lively
Apr 18, 2008


KBD posted:

It's a combination of oral fixation (feeling like something is missing, you're not satisfied, you must ingest whatever makes you feel as satisfied as when smoking), loss of a coping mechanism where food becomes the replacement, and increased taste as well as appetite.

Just keep track of how much you are eating and exercise more, which asides from weight control also helps speed up lung recovery and bumps your mood up.

Yeah, my theory was that it was the oral fixation replacement for when I get either bored or antsy, and it's being interpreted as a hunger trigger. Now to figure out how to tell the difference between "I'm actually hungry, feed me" and "I'm just bored with nothing to do." I can't see stuffing myself full of cheez-its for a month and being a towering lardmonster at the end of it - the idea here is to improve my lifestyle, not explode my digestive system.

On the bright side, however, the cravings were completely gone after three days or so! Much easier than I had thought it would be to quit, especially since I finally looked myself in the eye and said, you are better than this. Once the decision got made, the hard part was over. Except for the part where I'm eating myself to death, I guess!

Poohat666
Jun 15, 2011

Believe for free!!!

Last night raging hunger, went to 7-11 bought a Pizza sub ate it, 5 minutes later ate a small bag of cornuts.... Go to sleep , wake up oh god raging hungry havent eaten in days feeling, so hungry oh god fuckerlolz...

Booties
Apr 4, 2006

forever and ever

Day 11 for me. Can't believe it's been nearly two weeks. The cravings are there but it hasn't been as hard as in the past. I even went out boozing with my buddy after work at a cocktail bar and still didn't have one. Actually said no when he asked. Couldn't believe it the next day. Looking forward to my first month of 0.0%.

KBD
Mar 24, 2010

get a butt


Poohat666 posted:

Last night raging hunger, went to 7-11 bought a Pizza sub ate it, 5 minutes later ate a small bag of cornuts.... Go to sleep , wake up oh god raging hungry havent eaten in days feeling, so hungry oh god fuckerlolz...

Stock up on some gum and start tracking your calorie intake. Turn your quitting into leverage for getting more, not less, fit now that your body isn't being poisoned from within.

Brinny-chan
Jul 7, 2007

Namely a Sergeant Knickerless Ass-wipe and Cuntstable Fanny Batterbum.

Twat McTwatterson posted:

It's the idea that you love smoking (and let's be honest, you love smoking cigarettes, not just the abstract idea of smoking), and that you can substitute your love of smoking cigarettes with smoking some vapor.

Sorry, I still don't agree. I don't love smoking cigarettes, I already clearly said that. I do like the idea, so this e-cig is making all the difference for me. There's no nicotine, I now haven't had any in 9 days and haven't wanted to go buy a pack of anything since I found my delicious flavored water vapor replacement. I won't go back to smoking, and I don't understand why I'm apparently "loving retarded" for choosing to enjoy flavoured water.

Agree to disagree. I'm not arguing with you.

KBD
Mar 24, 2010

get a butt


Brinny-chan posted:

Sorry, I still don't agree. I don't love smoking cigarettes, I already clearly said that. I do like the idea, so this e-cig is making all the difference for me. There's no nicotine, I now haven't had any in 9 days and haven't wanted to go buy a pack of anything since I found my delicious flavored water vapor replacement. I won't go back to smoking, and I don't understand why I'm apparently "loving retarded" for choosing to enjoy flavoured water.

Agree to disagree. I'm not arguing with you.

Then argue with me. I successfully quit smoking the first time around by substituting it with vaping. It worked great. The problem is, it's still fundamentally a substitute, let us not kid ourselves. You still use sucking on those things as a crutch and addiction, not random enjoyment. After vaping along for months, I found myself drunk and without charged e-cigs on me. Picked up smoking again and somehow wasn't able to even try vaping again.

Insist all you want, but by not COMPLETELY severing your addiction to this behavior, you are putting yourself at great risk for future relapse.

Twat McTwatterson
May 31, 2011


Brinny-chan posted:

Sorry, I still don't agree. I don't love smoking cigarettes, I already clearly said that. I do like the idea, so this e-cig is making all the difference for me. There's no nicotine, I now haven't had any in 9 days and haven't wanted to go buy a pack of anything since I found my delicious flavored water vapor replacement. I won't go back to smoking, and I don't understand why I'm apparently "loving retarded" for choosing to enjoy flavoured water.

Agree to disagree. I'm not arguing with you.

You will eventually understand- it's a process, after all. Good job on wanting to quit and being free for 9 days, but 9 days is nothing, bro. That's the loving thing- 9 days, 9 months, 9 years, it don't loving matter. Staying quit is a matter of eternity. (Not that you should think like this when you're in the process, this is just what you come to inevitably understand).

Twat McTwatterson fucked around with this message at Mar 1, 2012 around 21:00

Schistosity
May 15, 2009



I just read the best article in a long time on the topic of will power in this week's Time magazine called "Getting to No" by Jeffrey Kluger (no online article available yet.) He writes all about the neuroscience of will power when it comes to certain addictions and lack of will power. After quitting almost a year ago, this article states exactly how I was successful.

article posted:

One paradoxical way to contain cravings is what McGonigal calls mindfulness, which is a lot less squishy than it sounds. Studies of smokers in fMRI scanners have shown that trying to deal with an urge through brute resistance exacerbates the problem, with the lower brain effectively going from orange alert to red. People who instead acknowledge their feelings and nudge them back in line with deep breathing or other relaxation exercises can calm their brains faster. "Acceptance doesn't have to mean endorsing the feelings, " McGonigal says.

Good luck all you guys.

Philosophrates
Oct 16, 2008


Quit back in September, but after a couple rough weeks I've been bumming one a day from friends and even bought a pack that I smoked half of. So instead of lying to myself I am going to count today as the new quit day, a pretty good birthday present to myself. Here's to starting from step 1 again, except easier this time.

FuriousxGeorge
Aug 8, 2007

Buddy doesn't have many rules but one of them is don't lose to the Cowboys.

I wouldn't worry too much about compensating with food unless it really gets out of hand. You are making yourself miserable in quitting so it's okay to compensate a bit with something else that gives you pleasure. Quitting smoking is a huge demonstation of willpower, if you can do it you can drop down the extra pounds later too.

MSPain
Jul 14, 2006

CALL PGM(SHTPST)


Twat McTwatterson posted:

You will eventually understand- it's a process, after all. Good job on wanting to quit and being free for 9 days, but 9 days is nothing, bro. That's the loving thing- 9 days, 9 months, 9 years, it don't loving matter. Staying quit is a matter of eternity. (Not that you should think like this when you're in the process, this is just what you come to inevitably understand).

This is so painfully true.

Before I quit for good I actually had some degree of success switching to an e-cig and then tapering that off. Then I went back to normal cigarettes because it caused me to get these horrible painful legions on the back of my throat.

Seriously, you are buying cheap chemicals from china and putting them in your god drat lungs. Granted, normally cigarettes aren't the best for you, but at least that's a known evil.

IrrevocableCascade
Oct 19, 2011



Day 1 of attempt 4, longest was 6 months.

I started running last October and have been doing it steadily and I feel like smoking is holding me back.

Over the course of the last 4 attempts I went down from one pack a day to like 6-7 a day. Been smoking for a good 15 years (15-30).

God I'm disgusting but it has to end now.

I have a pack in my office desk as we speak. Is it better to toss it or to keep it to show myself that even I do have cigs I am not smoking them?

Edit: Nm I am tossing the cigs, I just reread what I wrote -.-

Lblitzer
Mar 8, 2004

Ready to eat me, sir!


IrrevocableCascade posted:

Day 1 of attempt 4, longest was 6 months.

I started running last October and have been doing it steadily and I feel like smoking is holding me back.

Over the course of the last 4 attempts I went down from one pack a day to like 6-7 a day. Been smoking for a good 15 years (15-30).

God I'm disgusting but it has to end now.

I have a pack in my office desk as we speak. Is it better to toss it or to keep it to show myself that even I do have cigs I am not smoking them?

Edit: Nm I am tossing the cigs, I just reread what I wrote -.-

Yeah definitely throw those out, and if the fixation becomes an issue just find something to replace it like carrots or gum or something. The longest I went was 3 months and during that time I was working out quite a bit, running 5 days a week and lifting too.

I'm thinking I'll need to try patches to quit again, but I keep making excuses to buy some. I'm going to run out in a few hours and won't buy any. I'm playing boot hockey tonight and that will be some good exercise, really should start running again too.

IrrevocableCascade
Oct 19, 2011



Lblitzer posted:

Yeah definitely throw those out, and if the fixation becomes an issue just find something to replace it like carrots or gum or something. The longest I went was 3 months and during that time I was working out quite a bit, running 5 days a week and lifting too.

I'm thinking I'll need to try patches to quit again, but I keep making excuses to buy some. I'm going to run out in a few hours and won't buy any. I'm playing boot hockey tonight and that will be some good exercise, really should start running again too.

With regards to patches and nicotine gum - "someone" just released a the results of a long-term study which showed that these are completely ineffective in helping people actually quit, but I'll be damned if I can find the link. Still it seemed to be solid. Cold Turkey combined with exercise still seems to be the best option.

As for chewing regular gum to get my oral fix - I tried that but by like day 3 I get really loving sick of always having chewing gum taste in my mouth.

Anyone have any other ideas?

panorama_change
May 23, 2008

Inertia is a property of matter.


IrrevocableCascade posted:

With regards to patches and nicotine gum - "someone" just released a the results of a long-term study which showed that these are completely ineffective in helping people actually quit, but I'll be damned if I can find the link. Still it seemed to be solid. Cold Turkey combined with exercise still seems to be the best option.

As for chewing regular gum to get my oral fix - I tried that but by like day 3 I get really loving sick of always having chewing gum taste in my mouth.

Anyone have any other ideas?

Flavored toothpicks are a good alternative to gum. There's an effervescent aspect to them plus it's not as hard on the jaw from constant chewing. I used both to help me quit, but I still chew about 5 or 6 pieces of gum per day. The toothpicks were great, for me, to help with the cravings while driving. It satiated my oral fixation and occasionally taking the toothpick out of my mouth gave the same feeling as smoking, somewhat.

Edit: I just realized your issue was with the taste. I read it as sick of having chewing gum in your mouth, I guess you could go with regular toothpicks instead of flavored.

panorama_change fucked around with this message at Mar 2, 2012 around 14:38

Professor Oak
Jun 7, 2010


I am now at 24 hours without a cigarette and feel miserable. I'm quitting because I began coughing up black poo poo in the sink a couple of weeks ago and that's just nasty. Right now I would give my pinky for a cigarette if there were any in reach but I got rid of all of my lighters, empty packs, ashtrays etc. and stopped cold turkey. I failed once before after posting in here but this time I'm going to do it. My girlfriend can't stand me spitting gross stuff from my lungs up and I've only been smoking for two years. It was time to call it quits.

Socket Ryanist
Aug 30, 2004



I really really wish someone would develop a strain of cannabis that tasted good and smoked smooth but didn't get you high.

I would much rather ditch cigarettes for weed, but weed is like kryptonite to me.

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Hilario Baldness
Feb 10, 2005



One recurring theme of my nightmares is that I start smoking and break the quit streak that I'm on.

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