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Borderview
Sep 1, 2011



jax posted:

Re-read this thread



This. This thread is what got me through the first couple days when I was a real loving prick to everyone b/c I wasn't getting my fix -- this thread, and horrible stories about young people dying from smoking related cancers. That poo poo is heart-breaking and makes you realize that smoking is just loving dumb and not at all worth it.

Day 18, 303 cigs not smoked, $98.65 saved!

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old dog child
May 21, 2008

are perry'd jokes still funny or did I just waste 10 bucks?

Had my last cigarette at 6:55am on July 7 after a long, long taper from 1 pack a day. So far so good. Thanks for the advice everyone; I started running and lifting weights more often to deal with stress. Believe it or not, I ran 4-5 miles a day while smoking, heh. Chewing gum all the time helps with that oral fixation thing, too. The QuitNow! app on Android owns, too. I have so far saved $53 and not smoked 212 cigarettes.

Almost two weeks!

rivid
Jul 17, 2005

Matt 24:44

RentCavalier posted:

I don't like asking for help very often, but this thread seems to have produced a lot of success stories. Any advice?

Finding out that my cravings only lasted a few short minutes and then would go away meant that if I could physically or mentally occupy myself for that amount of time, I was fine. Drop to the floor and do push-ups, or go to the kitchen and make yourself some chocolate milk or a cup of coffee. Being around people who smoke was sort of a mental inner struggle, especially when people would offer you one. In cases like these I took deep breaths (which simulates inhaling), focused on that and what we were gonna do once everyone's done smoking. Alternatively if we were outside I would step out the circle and check out the night sky/whatever.

edit- I also wanna say don't get into the mindset of "well smoking gave me a sore throat and I still have one, so gently caress it". You might get a dry scratchy throat for a few days after quitting, and that's perfectly normal. I hear in person from lots of people that say the reason why they started smoking again was because they were still coughing up pflem, not realizing that it's cilia growing back.

rivid fucked around with this message at Jul 18, 2012 around 10:13

thebushcommander
Apr 16, 2004
HAY
GUYS
MAKE
ME A
FUNNY,
I'M TOO
STUPID
TO DO
IT BY
MYSELF


I just quit on Sunday, honestly wasn't even planning to quit, but I randomly bought a nicotine free e-cig and after 2 days just puffing on that every now and then I didn't even want a real cigarette. Obviously it's only been about 5 days, but I feel good and decided I am going to keep it up.

Things that have changed in just these short days. Real cigarettes smell bad. My brother got into my car smoking per-usual and it was almost overbearing, especially at 8am. My appetite seems to be normalized. I've been used to eating 5-6 small meals a day for awhile now per my workout schedule etc. However it wasn't until yesterday that I actually seemed to be hungry for the smaller snack times or even dinner where I'd normally just kind of force myself to eat because it was part of the schedule.

I haven't run in like 5 years and even then I was doing C25K style runs and barely could go over 2 miles without wanting to die simply because I couldn't breathe. I plan to get at it again on my off days from the gym. Also looking forward to doing DL's without having to catch my breath for 2 minutes between sets.

Aside from that, when should I expect all of the nasty poo poo in my lungs to work it's way out? Other people I know that have quit told me the second week was the worst in that they constantly were coughing up gunk.

Edit: I should note that I am still smoking the e-cig when I get a craving to go smoke, which is 3-4 times a day, but literally 2-3 "drags" on the ecig is good. Also, I smoked for 15 years, and I thought it would be harder than this, kind of waiting for it to kick in and my body to wonder wtf is going on.

thebushcommander fucked around with this message at Jul 19, 2012 around 15:19

Babybufallo
Apr 13, 2012


I took this up last week and have been going cold turkey since then. I gained a couple of pounds (Terrible since i am currently 235 Pounds). It was hell the first couple of days and i still get that terrible craving whenever i am in a bar or a club; or just plain sitting down with my buddies who all smoke excessively. I'm reluctant to try nicotine patches and so forth, anyone had any success with them?

blackmet
Aug 5, 2006

I believe there is a universal Truth to the process of doing things right (Not that I have any idea what that actually means).

Oh, wow. It's officially been a year.

Still get the occasional craving, but it's usually just stress, and I'm able to overcome it by diverting my attention to something else for a while or just getting away from the situation.

I'm not going to lie and say I've been perfect...there have been a few times, all after having atleast three drinks, that I've bummed a cigarette or two from friends. Even that is losing it's appeal...the last time I did that, about a month ago, my heart was pounding for two hours afterwards while I sobered up before going to bed. Still, I consider a total of 5 cigarettes in a year to be a major improvement over 5 cigarettes in an hour, which I used to do easily when drinking.

Have put on a bit of weight, so I think I'm going to make it a goal to get back into shape and eat a bit better. But I've saved a ton of money, I breathe better, and (most of all) it's nice to not have to plan my life around my next nicotine fix.

RentCavalier
Jul 10, 2008

I mean, who dreams about taking a shit with another guy?


Babybufallo posted:

I took this up last week and have been going cold turkey since then. I gained a couple of pounds (Terrible since i am currently 235 Pounds). It was hell the first couple of days and i still get that terrible craving whenever i am in a bar or a club; or just plain sitting down with my buddies who all smoke excessively. I'm reluctant to try nicotine patches and so forth, anyone had any success with them?

Patches work, but they aren't perfect. Gum is good for oral fixation, but gently caress that. Gum tastes like acid death and will make your mouth tingle. Every time I chewed it I just felt like I was getting WAY too much Nicotine and that I'd much rather just smoke than have to taste this foul business any more.

Patches are my preferred method, since they don't have all the weird effects associated with that nicotine-receptor-blocking stuff and it's a tried and true method. The problem is that they don't fully eliminate cravings--they tend to reduce them down to a dull roar, then a whisper, and then a murmur.

With patches, the best tactic I find is: where the patch for the first three days, three patches (you get 7 a box for about 24-25 dollars). The first day will be fine, the second and third days will suck. You will really really want to smoke in those second and third days, usually between after wearing the patch for 12-16 hours. The longer it is on you, the less nicotine it starts providing, and your body starts craving again.

That's why it is important to STOP wearing the patch for awhile after those first three. After 3 days, depending on the strength of your patch and your own nicotine habits, you should be able to go a day or two without any really serious cravings before your body, now having felt a dearth of Nicotine, starts demanding it again. Slap on a patch and chew gum.

After that, your last three patches will be useful for days down the line, when you suddenly start craving again out of nowhere. The best time to wear the patch is when you are drinking, since you can't smoke on the patch unless you want a heart attack. Even still, it's best to avoid drinking for the first week, or drink things besides beer--in my case, the taste of beer just makes me want a cigarette, whereas mixed drinks and wine don't give me nearly as strong of cravings.

Gum is your best friend. Chew gum and you'll be amazed at how much it helps. I've managed to "quit" several times using this method, and only started smoking again a month or two later, largely due to drinking with my smoker friends or undergoing a lot of stress.

I'm on day 4, and so this is my first day this week without a patch. So far so good.

Buy a video game or something that can eat up many hours of your day when you are at home, so you don't dwell on your cravings. The chemical addiction is easier to get over than the psychological one.

Borderview
Sep 1, 2011



RentCavalier posted:

Gum tastes like acid death and will make your mouth tingle. Every time I chewed it I just felt like I was getting WAY too much Nicotine and that I'd much rather just smoke than have to taste this foul business any more.



I love the gum. The nicotine rush that it gives is awesome. Now I crave that poo poo like I did smokes. I'm slowly trying to wean myself off of it, though. The first couple days, I was eating two 2mg pieces at a time, probably 10+ times a day. Now I'm down to about 6 pieces a day.

20 days smoke free. I'm never going back to it. I was nervous with the gum because of its low success rate; but I think, really, the number one predictor of successfully quitting is just the amount you desire to quit. Whether cold turkey, or with nicotine replacement, you just have to really want to never be a smoker again.

Black Cat
Mar 22, 2012


RentCavalier posted:

Patches work, but they aren't perfect. Gum is good for oral fixation, but gently caress that. Gum tastes like acid death and will make your mouth tingle. Every time I chewed it I just felt like I was getting WAY too much Nicotine and that I'd much rather just smoke than have to taste this foul business any more.

Patches are my preferred method, since they don't have all the weird effects associated with that nicotine-receptor-blocking stuff and it's a tried and true method. The problem is that they don't fully eliminate cravings--they tend to reduce them down to a dull roar, then a whisper, and then a murmur.

With patches, the best tactic I find is: where the patch for the first three days, three patches (you get 7 a box for about 24-25 dollars). The first day will be fine, the second and third days will suck. You will really really want to smoke in those second and third days, usually between after wearing the patch for 12-16 hours. The longer it is on you, the less nicotine it starts providing, and your body starts craving again.

That's why it is important to STOP wearing the patch for awhile after those first three. After 3 days, depending on the strength of your patch and your own nicotine habits, you should be able to go a day or two without any really serious cravings before your body, now having felt a dearth of Nicotine, starts demanding it again. Slap on a patch and chew gum.

After that, your last three patches will be useful for days down the line, when you suddenly start craving again out of nowhere. The best time to wear the patch is when you are drinking, since you can't smoke on the patch unless you want a heart attack. Even still, it's best to avoid drinking for the first week, or drink things besides beer--in my case, the taste of beer just makes me want a cigarette, whereas mixed drinks and wine don't give me nearly as strong of cravings.

Gum is your best friend. Chew gum and you'll be amazed at how much it helps. I've managed to "quit" several times using this method, and only started smoking again a month or two later, largely due to drinking with my smoker friends or undergoing a lot of stress.

I'm on day 4, and so this is my first day this week without a patch. So far so good.

Buy a video game or something that can eat up many hours of your day when you are at home, so you don't dwell on your cravings. The chemical addiction is easier to get over than the psychological one.

I've ramped back up to a pack a day because life is being pretty stressful and lovely right now. The patch is the only recourse I really have when I do kick the habit temporarily.

The patch makes it so I can somewhat fight the cravings, instead of turning into some crazed-junky. With no nicotine I'll get blurry vision and studder like hell.

I start a new life in mid-August, and I don't want to carry this addiction with me.

pastorrich
Jun 7, 2008

Keep on truckin' like a novacane hurricane


Day 1 on the patch. Last time I tried (two months ago) I lasted a month and then there was a party at my place, alcohol was involved and I bought a bag of rolling tobacco. It was all downhill from there, and I got back to a pack a day regular cigs.

This time my girlfriend (who smokes a pack a week) says she quits whenever I do so hopefully this time is right. I got three weeks worth of patches, gum and I'm determined not to drink for 1-2 months as I'm dead set on not gaining any weight and hopefully losing weight.

This is like the fourth time I quit this year but it feels right. But that's how I felt every time I quit. Oh well, time will tell.

RentCavalier
Jul 10, 2008

I mean, who dreams about taking a shit with another guy?


I had one cigarette last night, after a goodly amount of drinking. It kind of felt gross, and I haven't had any real cravings today, but I've a patch on just as a precaution. Luckily, there's plenty of stuff to keep my mind occupied, so hopefully this'll just have been a momentary lapse of judgment.

Ariza
Feb 7, 2006


The lozenge was perfect for me. It made my breath smell good, it was an active source of nicotine - unlike the patch, and it made me not shove a bunch of food in my mouth. Since I quit using the lozenge about 4.5 weeks ago, after 3 or 4 years of using it, I've been getting weird nicotine withdrawal type headaches. If I suck on something, like a sugar free cough drop, it goes away. So now I crave cough drops and mints like nicotine. I get very cranky and my head starts hurting if I don't have any. I don't like how my brain became wired to think - not sucking on something? let's constrict some blood vessels in your head! I know it's probably psychosomatic but it is very annoying. At least cough drops cost me about $4 a week vs $15-20 I was spending on the nicotine lozenges.

Black Cat
Mar 22, 2012


RentCavalier posted:

I had one cigarette last night, after a goodly amount of drinking. It kind of felt gross, and I haven't had any real cravings today, but I've a patch on just as a precaution. Luckily, there's plenty of stuff to keep my mind occupied, so hopefully this'll just have been a momentary lapse of judgment.

Its amazing how quickly cigarettes start to taste gross. Its also amazing how people, including myself, will keep pushing back into the addiction until they're enjoyable again.

It works like this:

I haven't smoked for a while, I'll just have one cigarette.

Well, that was pretty gross, not what I remembered. I guess I'm just not used to it.

I better buy a pack and keep smoking them until they feel good again.

Black Cat fucked around with this message at Jul 20, 2012 around 20:01

RentCavalier
Jul 10, 2008

I mean, who dreams about taking a shit with another guy?


Black Cat posted:

Its amazing how quickly cigarettes start to taste gross. Its also amazing how people, including myself, will keep pushing back into the addiction until they're

It works like this:

I haven't smoked for a while, I'll just have one cigarette.

Well, that was pretty gross, not what I remembered. I guess I'm just not used to it.

I better buy a pack and keep smoking them until they feel good again.

God, story of my life. It always starts with drinking and I bum two or three. By the third, I'm enjoying myself again.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007


Black Cat posted:

Its amazing how quickly cigarettes start to taste gross. Its also amazing how people, including myself, will keep pushing back into the addiction until they're

It works like this:

I haven't smoked for a while, I'll just have one cigarette.

Well, that was pretty gross, not what I remembered. I guess I'm just not used to it.

I better buy a pack and keep smoking them until they feel good again.

drat, that's how I ended up with the last two packs. I would go about a week without smoking at or only smoking one or two bummed at work. I would kind of start to feel a small bit of pride in myself for abstaining, but then I instantly am overwhelmed with a desire for a cigarette and spiteful urge to take myself down a peg. I smoke the first cigarette from the pack, start coughing and get nauseous and light-headed and think "why do I even like these or want to do this?" and end up smoking the whole pack in a few days. Luckily, the gas station and atendee I like to visit knows I'm "quitting" and one of my attempts to go in there were thwarted by shame because he was working so I bought a cream soda instead. I don't think relying on shame from this one guy at a Texaco is going to be enough to avoid ever buying another pack.

Also, those people who give a way free or 1 dollar cigarettes at a bar are not helpful.

nerdzrool
Aug 30, 2004

omg cake

83 days today. My life is great. Filling in all of the time and energy I spent smoking means I ride my bike 4-10 miles a day, 3-5 days a week. Working out and losing weight. Feeling stomach muscles I've never felt in my whole life.

Quitting just put everything in perspective. Besides not dying early, I want to make the most of the time I do have. I could spend life encumbered by an addiction and a body type that I hate, or I can be healthy and break addictions to cigarettes AND food. Once the cigarette part was over everything else seems really easy.

edit: and the lung capacity felt like a bonus handicap (in a good way) for working out. Everything felt so easy after struggling to breath for so many years.

KingEup
Nov 18, 2004
I am a REAL ADDICT
(to threadshitting)


Please ask me for my google inspired wisdom on shit I know nothing about. Actually, you don't even have to ask.


InEscape posted:

For the gum chewers: do you actually have to do what it says on the box?

Ive been trying to quit for ages. I slipped up again on the same drat trigger and decided to grab some Nicorette just for those moments. It's really helped, I've only needed a couple pieces in the last four days but it's really made a difference. But the box tells me I should chew 9 pieces/day for six weeks. That's crazy talk! That's more cigarettes than I smoked a day and definitely way more gum than I've ever chewed in my life (and this stuff is foul!) Are they right and I'm just kidding myself or are they just trying to get me to buy $100 worth of gum?

No harm in chewing 9 pieces a day. You aren't meant to chew it like regular either. Chew, taste, flatten and park. One 4mg piece of gum gives you a much lower dose of nicotine than one cigarette:



If you're smoking 4-5 cigarettes a day, 9 pieces of gum is good place to start.

KingEup fucked around with this message at Jul 24, 2012 around 07:45

thebushcommander
Apr 16, 2004
HAY
GUYS
MAKE
ME A
FUNNY,
I'M TOO
STUPID
TO DO
IT BY
MYSELF


Ahhhh just coming into what 9 days since I quit. Was fine up until today and now I am extremely agitated with everyone and at everything for no reason. I have to willpower not to smoke, but this is crazy. I feel paranoid and psychotic at the same time.

Kill Whitey
Dec 27, 2010

Be provocative, be organized.

nerdzrool posted:

83 days today. My life is great. Filling in all of the time and energy I spent smoking means I ride my bike 4-10 miles a day, 3-5 days a week. Working out and losing weight. Feeling stomach muscles I've never felt in my whole life.

Quitting just put everything in perspective. Besides not dying early, I want to make the most of the time I do have. I could spend life encumbered by an addiction and a body type that I hate, or I can be healthy and break addictions to cigarettes AND food. Once the cigarette part was over everything else seems really easy.

edit: and the lung capacity felt like a bonus handicap (in a good way) for working out. Everything felt so easy after struggling to breath for so many years.

This is almost exactly my experience, even the same amount of time since quitting. I don't think I would have been able to successfully quit smoking if I hadn't picked up a daily exercise routine around the same time. I started biking anywhere from 5-20 miles, 6 days a week, and it didn't take long before I found the willpower to quit, since smoking was so counter intuitive against my attempt at building a healthy lifestyle. The exercise helped even more with the actual process of quitting, since it was the only thing that could take my mind off the cravings. And also like you, it feels amazing to be able to push myself without being inhibited by lovely smoker's lungs. I'm actually starting to feel like a conditioned and fit person, for the first time in my life.

Anyways, good luck dudes.

BelgianWaffle
Aug 25, 2002
damn Belgian

nerdzrool posted:

83 days today. My life is great. Filling in all of the time and energy I spent smoking means I ride my bike 4-10 miles a day, 3-5 days a week. Working out and losing weight. Feeling stomach muscles I've never felt in my whole life.

Quitting just put everything in perspective. Besides not dying early, I want to make the most of the time I do have. I could spend life encumbered by an addiction and a body type that I hate, or I can be healthy and break addictions to cigarettes AND food. Once the cigarette part was over everything else seems really easy.

edit: and the lung capacity felt like a bonus handicap (in a good way) for working out. Everything felt so easy after struggling to breath for so many years.

I tell you, today I am 228 days smoke free and this feels even better than 83!

What if I have noticed while not smoking is that I subconsciencely replaced my cigarette addiction with an alcohol one. I tend to drink more while I am alone (playing videogames, surfing etc) as a result I have become more fatter around the waist although I am doing much more sports than when I was still smoking.

Oh well, you cannot have it all I suppose.

Aafter
Apr 14, 2009

A is for After.

40 hours without smoking: The cravings are painful. My mother left some cigarettes out last night and I was able to walk away and say "gently caress naaaw."

My girlfriend still smokes, she says she's quitting soon but man, every time she goes outside to smoke, I end up breaking the toothpick (toothpicks help a ton, by the way). My sense of smell is coming back. Girlfriend is stinky.

Fake edit: THE CRAVINGS. OH GOD. THE CRAVINGS.

InEscape
Nov 10, 2006

stuck.


Aafter posted:

40 hours without smoking: The cravings are painful. My mother left some cigarettes out last night and I was able to walk away and say "gently caress naaaw."

My girlfriend still smokes, she says she's quitting soon but man, every time she goes outside to smoke, I end up breaking the toothpick (toothpicks help a ton, by the way). My sense of smell is coming back. Girlfriend is stinky.

Fake edit: THE CRAVINGS. OH GOD. THE CRAVINGS.


Go get some Nicorette and calm down. You'll be fine. The cravings only last 3-5 minutes and then they're gone, so make a list of things you can do to distract yourself for that period. Remember that even if your brain starts lying to you that it's just chemicals and you're going to be fine.

We've all been where you are. You can do it!!

Hogarth Hughes
Apr 16, 2006

"As for me, people will be pleased to escape from me in one piece."



thebushcommander posted:

I just quit on Sunday, honestly wasn't even planning to quit, but I randomly bought a nicotine free e-cig and after 2 days just puffing on that every now and then I didn't even want a real cigarette. Obviously it's only been about 5 days, but I feel good and decided I am going to keep it up.

Things that have changed in just these short days. Real cigarettes smell bad. My brother got into my car smoking per-usual and it was almost overbearing, especially at 8am.


Edit: I should note that I am still smoking the e-cig when I get a craving to go smoke, which is 3-4 times a day, but literally 2-3 "drags" on the ecig is good. Also, I smoked for 15 years, and I thought it would be harder than this, kind of waiting for it to kick in and my body to wonder wtf is going on.

I know I'm just going by one tiny anecdote of a person I've never met and don't know anything else about, but your brother sounds like a real rear end in a top hat. He knows you are trying to quit and still goes ahead and smokes in YOUR car? Don't put up with that poo poo. I mean, you sound like you are doing really well, but it's really goddamn insensitive of him to do that. Be firm with these people in your life who don't care if you fail in your very important goal.

Smoking the e-cig is great, you sound like you are going exactly down the route I went down, and I'm just now almost 1 year into being an ex-smoker and I feel loving awesome. I too was shocked how easy it actually was for me to quit with e-cigs and a switch turned off in my brain and I realized that smoking is loving stupid and I never wanted to do it again.

Oh and yes, exercise is really great for keeping you off the cigs. I ride my bike a minimum of 10-12 miles a day and I couldn't have done that while I smoked, my lungs would have totally died.

I carried the e-cig around for about 5 months but hardly ever used it for the last month. One day I forgot to take it with me and I didn't even notice it until I got home from work and emptied my pockets out. Haven't even used that since, and I don't miss smoking one bit. I can get absolutely poo poo-faced and I don't waver at all, I don't even think about them. It's really cool. You can do it.

SpannerX
Apr 26, 2010


Last weekend we had a party at my house, and I had a couple of beers, didn't even feel the need to smoke, but I didn't get drunk (there were hours between beers too). But I also didn't feel the need to drink at the party either. Here's to getting more healthy, and not spending money on stuff I shouldn't.

And yes, I do still get cravings, but they go away really quickly. Just have to occupy my hands a brain.

T Fowl
Feb 6, 2006

Shut up DUMMY

I am not a super regular smoker, been bumming them for years from friends during drinking sessions or lengthy conversations. Now that I have moved away though, I've found myself buy a 3rd pack in the last month and feel I am on the brink of not being able to control it. I keep saying this is for sure the last pack, and then go several days without buying one until I cave and end up buying another, like I did this morning. It doesn't help that I was a long time marijuana user and have no access to it and have stopped it pretty much. Whenever I have weed, I don't feel the urge to smoke a cigarette as much I guess cause I am getting that ritual of smoking something from the weed instead.

I am promising myself this is the last pack, and I really should throw it out but I know I won't because I just spent money on them and they are fulfilling. I will come here constantly to reassure myself, this is a great thread. It also takes me about 5-7 days on average to actually smoke an entire pack.

Boner Slam
May 9, 2005


Day 50 free, 10 years 1 pack+ per day

had no problem quitting whatsoever and haven't changed anything about my daily routine or company or party habits, using mostly insights from the Carr book. I am completely convinced it's the way to go just because how easy it was to quit and how hard it was before when I tried other methods.
Have also completely quit drinking caffeine, which helps my sleep a fuckton.

It is really obvious how almost everything related to cigarettes in psychological.
You tell yourself you need cigarettes because of stress, when in reality it makes it worse.
You tell yourself you need cigarettes to completely enjoy a party or alcohol, when in reality the only reason for that is that you tell yourself that.
You tell yourself smoking is some kind of integral part of your beeing, when in reality it does nothing for you.
You tell yourself you actually enjoy cigarettes, when you really don't.
You also underestimate how great everything is once you quit.


I am also mildly annoyed by people that do not quit cold turkey and then cry about cravings and how hard it is.
As long as you shovel nicotine in your body, you are addicted - an addiction that your brain connects with smoking, forever.
If you realize that neither smokes nor nicotine do anything positive for you and every positive effect you think they have is because the withdrawals have brought you down before - then you just need to make the decision to be a not smoker.
You can literally tell your brain that you don't need to smoke and it works, because you only get cravings because you have been telling yourself that you need to smoke.



You know the guy who gets up at 6am and is full of energy during the day? I am that guy now.
Quit smoking. It's easy and everything is amazing.

T Fowl posted:

I am not a super regular smoker, been bumming them for years from friends during drinking sessions or lengthy conversations. Now that I have moved away though, I've found myself buy a 3rd pack in the last month and feel I am on the brink of not being able to control it. I keep saying this is for sure the last pack, and then go several days without buying one until I cave and end up buying another, like I did this morning. It doesn't help that I was a long time marijuana user and have no access to it and have stopped it pretty much. Whenever I have weed, I don't feel the urge to smoke a cigarette as much I guess cause I am getting that ritual of smoking something from the weed instead.

I am promising myself this is the last pack, and I really should throw it out but I know I won't because I just spent money on them and they are fulfilling. I will come here constantly to reassure myself, this is a great thread. It also takes me about 5-7 days on average to actually smoke an entire pack.

I will tell you this: you will hate yourself forever because you have the chance to stop now very easily and without much harm to your body.
Cigarettes are not fulfilling. Stop bullshitting yourself about nicotine withdrawals, which is what it is.

Boner Slam fucked around with this message at Jul 28, 2012 around 13:14

T Fowl
Feb 6, 2006

Shut up DUMMY

Boner Slam posted:

Day 50 free, 10 years 1 pack+ per day

had no problem quitting whatsoever and haven't changed anything about my daily routine or company or party habits, using mostly insights from the Carr book. I am completely convinced it's the way to go just because how easy it was to quit and how hard it was before when I tried other methods.
Have also completely quit drinking caffeine, which helps my sleep a fuckton.

It is really obvious how almost everything related to cigarettes in psychological.
You tell yourself you need cigarettes because of stress, when in reality it makes it worse.
You tell yourself you need cigarettes to completely enjoy a party or alcohol, when in reality the only reason for that is that you tell yourself that.
You tell yourself smoking is some kind of integral part of your beeing, when in reality it does nothing for you.
You tell yourself you actually enjoy cigarettes, when you really don't.
You also underestimate how great everything is once you quit.


I am also mildly annoyed by people that do not quit cold turkey and then cry about cravings and how hard it is.
As long as you shovel nicotine in your body, you are addicted - an addiction that your brain connects with smoking, forever.
If you realize that neither smokes nor nicotine do anything positive for you and every positive effect you think they have is because the withdrawals have brought you down before - then you just need to make the decision to be a not smoker.
You can literally tell your brain that you don't need to smoke and it works, because you only get cravings because you have been telling yourself that you need to smoke.



You know the guy who gets up at 6am and is full of energy during the day? I am that guy now.
Quit smoking. It's easy and everything is amazing.


I will tell you this: you will hate yourself forever because you have the chance to stop now very easily and without much harm to your body.
Cigarettes are not fulfilling. Stop bullshitting yourself about nicotine withdrawals, which is what it is.


Oh I will, I am for sure making this the last pack. I can't imagine how hard it must be for many people though who have smoked much, much more than I ever have if I get these kinds of cravings.

The key is what you said, just quit. No more accepting cigarettes from buddies (who I don't think want you to be addicted with them, but more just want someone to smoke with them.)

The easiest way is to just stop smoking all together, and avoid smoking sessions with friends and family all together until you are confident the smoking that's going on what give you a real craving.

Jankk
Jul 24, 2012



Aafter posted:

40 hours without smoking: The cravings are painful. My mother left some cigarettes out last night and I was able to walk away and say "gently caress naaaw."

My girlfriend still smokes, she says she's quitting soon but man, every time she goes outside to smoke, I end up breaking the toothpick (toothpicks help a ton, by the way). My sense of smell is coming back. Girlfriend is stinky.

Fake edit: THE CRAVINGS. OH GOD. THE CRAVINGS.

It's going to be significantly harder for you to quit with a smoker nearby that has easily accessible cigarettes. I was only able to quit when my chain smoking roommate went to Germany for a month, leaving me all alone and unable to bum smokes from him. Keep gnawing those picks, dude, I used tea-tree sticks and they helped a ton. After the first week, it becomes significantly easier to both ignore the cravings and to resist the temptation of bumming cigs from SO's/friends.

Just be careful about getting drunk at first, because for me, it's really drat easy to say "gently caress it" when you're hammered. Good luck.

Borderview
Sep 1, 2011



Boner Slam posted:


I am also mildly annoyed by people that do not quit cold turkey and then cry about cravings and how hard it is.


Because, you know. . . everyone's physiology and mental processes work exactly like yours do. I get mildly annoyed by people who quit cold turkey and believe that because they did it cold turkey, anyone else can do it.

The important thing is to not smoke. Saying poo poo like that may make people who are tying to quit with other methods lose hope because they may believe that the only REAL way to quit is cold turkey.

Boner Slam posted:

As long as you shovel nicotine in your body, you are addicted - an addiction that your brain connects with smoking, forever.

Is this out of Carr's book? It's pretty disconnected from the reality of addiction. I guess, if that mindset gets people to quit, all the power to it.

But, I digress -- Congrats on Day 50.

Twat McTwatterson
May 31, 2011


Jankk posted:

Just be careful about getting drunk at first, because for me, it's really drat easy to say "gently caress it" when you're hammered.

This is correct on more than one level.

Norton Ghostride
Apr 30, 2006

by Y Kant Ozma Post


Quit cold turkey 3 days ago, been smoking daily for almost 10 years. Threw out everything tobacco related, and even trashed my water pipes so I wouldn't be tempted to do poo poo like sneak tobacco with pot. Gave up my awful energy drink habit too and have been fighting cravings by working out and lifting weights.

Other than the sleeplessness and hot flashes, not too bad, really.

Jankk
Jul 24, 2012



Norton Ghostride posted:

Quit cold turkey 3 days ago, been smoking daily for almost 10 years. Threw out everything tobacco related, and even trashed my water pipes so I wouldn't be tempted to do poo poo like sneak tobacco with pot. Gave up my awful energy drink habit too and have been fighting cravings by working out and lifting weights.

Other than the sleeplessness and hot flashes, not too bad, really.

In my experience, Day 3 is the hardest day. Top of the hill, if you will. I actually found that smoking pot really really helped me quit smoking tobacco, but then I couldn't quit smoking weed (which was never an issue for me previously) because I had essentially just swapped addictions. So basically, good show dude, you've got your poo poo covered, it would seem. I used to go for really long bike rides when I felt like my lungs were eating themselves with craving so I know how well exercise works as a distraction/replacement activity.

Success makes me a happy dude, keep it up and good luck.

xan!
Aug 17, 2004

by elpintogrande


So I quit cold turkey like 5 months ago after watching Allen Carr's Easy Way to Stop Smoking DVD, and I'm pretty proud of that, but lately I've been wanting a can of Copenhagen Wintergreen. I've been hanging out with some old Marine buddies (who dip), and dipping is so strongly associated with the military for me that I think I'm regressing and I want some fresh Cope in and around my mouth.

$3.10 Copenhagen Wintergreen is tempting me every time I go to the convenience store, especially since poo poo is normally like $7-8 in Boston

catpowerd
Jan 9, 2008

swinging your guitar around
Cause they wanted to hear that meow

I haven't had a smoke in 150 days but now I'm hooked on these goddamn nicotine lozenges woops.

Bruce Hussein Daddy
Dec 26, 2005

I testify that there is none worthy of worship except God and I testify that Muhammad is the Messenger of God


Xanieth posted:

So I quit cold turkey like 5 months ago after watching Allen Carr's Easy Way to Stop Smoking DVD, and I'm pretty proud of that, but lately I've been wanting a can of Copenhagen Wintergreen. I've been hanging out with some old Marine buddies (who dip), and dipping is so strongly associated with the military for me that I think I'm regressing and I want some fresh Cope in and around my mouth.

$3.10 Copenhagen Wintergreen is tempting me every time I go to the convenience store, especially since poo poo is normally like $7-8 in Boston

You know what will happen if you start dipping.

4-5 months seems to be the longest I can go without smoking. Then I'll break down and have a cigar. Then another one. Then I've been smoking for a week and have to quit AGAIN.

ryan_woody
Aug 26, 2005

I find your lack of faith disturbing.

It's time for me to quit smoking (again). The short of it is: I have 7 weeks, maximum, to go from not having run in a year to running 2 miles in 16:36. Today is day one, tomorrow I start running.

gently caress my life, this is going to suck.

BelgianWaffle
Aug 25, 2002
damn Belgian

Today I'm 7 months and 20 days clean.

Any people who relapsed several years after quitting? If so, what were the reasons for taking up the smoking again?

gep
Aug 4, 2007



Borderview posted:

Because, you know. . . everyone's physiology and mental processes work exactly like yours do. I get mildly annoyed by people who quit cold turkey and believe that because they did it cold turkey, anyone else can do it.

The important thing is to not smoke. Saying poo poo like that may make people who are tying to quit with other methods lose hope because they may believe that the only REAL way to quit is cold turkey.


Is this out of Carr's book? It's pretty disconnected from the reality of addiction. I guess, if that mindset gets people to quit, all the power to it.

But, I digress -- Congrats on Day 50.

Not everyone can quit cold turkey. I'm still using an e-cig after 3+ years. I've decreased the amount of nicotine I use, but I'm still not ready to give up the "hand to mouth" neurosis. I may never give it up. And while the e-cigs are not proven absolutely safe, my health is better.

I think bottom line is every cigarette you don't smoke is a victory and it's gonna take as long as it's gonna take for each individual to break the habit.

To all who have quit completely: Great Job!
To those still struggling: Keep on trying.

pastorrich
Jun 7, 2008

Keep on truckin' like a novacane hurricane


Today is the gazillionth time I try to quit but this time it feels right. I have to get my wisdom tooth removed and I smoked two packs while drinking last saturday and I think it got inside my tooth that's coming out and it hurts like hell.

Earlier I had a little panic attack/cancer scare and I became convinced I had throat cancer. It's 95% my tooth that's coming out but it made me realize I don't want to live a cancer diagnosis for real because cancer sucks balls. So I'm switching over to cough drops as craving substitutes and the patch for that sweet slow nicotine severage.

Does anyone know if you can actually take too many herbal cough drops?

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WILDTURKEY101
Mar 7, 2005

Incredible

Hit one year smoke free on the 11th. Smoked a pack of Kools every day for 3 and a half years before that, smoked for 5 years total. All that I kept telling myself in the beginning was that any idiot can NOT do something. Doing things is hard, but not doing something? Anyone can do that. I also had to stop watching Mad Men.

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