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lampey
Mar 27, 2012


The chromebooks are nice I'd you can get by with limited functionality.

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JumpyMonky
Jul 30, 2010

CORN


QuarkJets posted:

How long are these videos going to be? If most of your time is spent editing then you won't really gain anything from having a badass GPU and you should probably just buy a Haswell. If most of your time is spent waiting for encoding to finish because your videos are super long, then you need a combination of a badass GPU and "use a faster video encoder, maybe try to cut down on frame rate and frame size"

About 5 to 10 minutes give or take. They have to be in 1080p. I can take the wait time for rendering...but I easily get frustrated when working with large videos and having to wait when I have to move it around in the timeline.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006

HYPER-THREADING


lampey posted:

The chromebooks are nice I'd you can get by with limited functionality.

Closer to a tablet, really. Which is fine for a lot of people.

Mug
Apr 26, 2005


I got a Samsung chromebook the other day. It's good, but the CPU is so poo poo you can't have like 4 tabs open with a youtube video playing in one of them. I use youtube to listen to music a lot and it just stutters and goes to poo poo if it's in a background tab.

Calidus
Oct 31, 2011

Stand back I'm going to try science!

OutsideAngel posted:

I need a new computer but am on an extremely tight budget, the $300 range is about the best I can swing at the moment.

Fortunately I don't need anything fancy, just an internet/office/Netflix machine. My one sticking point is cooling; my previous computer was a Lenovo something-or-other and I got burned hard with constant overheating, to the point where I could barely make it through a streaming movie without the drat thing almost bursting into flames. Granted, I live on a tropical island on the equator in a sunward apartment with no AC, but still...

I know I'm not going to get anything even close to "nice", but I really just need "reliable". What's a good machine for a working-poor grad student with only $300 to spend?

Lenovo's and Dell's outlet is going to be the best place for you to look.

$300 will get you a i3

http://outlet.lenovo.com/SEUILibrar...5&Code=57RF0027

$400 will get you an i5

http://outlet.us.dell.com/ARBOnline...2&puid=fe77862c


Edit: wow wrong thread, thought i was int he desktop thread. Refurbished x131e is about $320.

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QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

We're on a mission from God

JumpyMonky posted:

About 5 to 10 minutes give or take. They have to be in 1080p. I can take the wait time for rendering...but I easily get frustrated when working with large videos and having to wait when I have to move it around in the timeline.

For 5-10 minute videos I don't think that you're going to save that much time in your production process by buying a gaming laptop, but you'd know the answer to that question better than me. If you feel like you need to shave off as many seconds as possible from your encoding process, then by all means go purchase some GPU power. For me, encoding is always the shortest piece of my video production process, and integrated graphics work fine for me, but maybe you're not making that many edits

Megaman
May 8, 2004

Thanks mods, peace. Still, this guy Megaloman is kind of a "special helmets" retard case, no?

I'm not sure if this the wrong thread, but I'm wondering about netbooks. I have a 1000ha, and I absolutely love it. It's older, which isnt' a problem because I run a very minimal debian install. But sometimes I just wish it had more horsepower. I don't want to get a regular size laptop because I hate them. Can someone recommend me a powerful/the most powerful netbook ever made? I googled for one with quite a bit of horsepower and couldn't seem to find one.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006

HYPER-THREADING


Megaman posted:

I'm not sure if this the wrong thread, but I'm wondering about netbooks. I have a 1000ha, and I absolutely love it. It's older, which isnt' a problem because I run a very minimal debian install. But sometimes I just wish it had more horsepower. I don't want to get a regular size laptop because I hate them. Can someone recommend me a powerful/the most powerful netbook ever made? I googled for one with quite a bit of horsepower and couldn't seem to find one.

There are quite a few 11.6" ultrabooks out there from Acer, Asus, and Apple. You can get them with the i7 CPU.

Megaman
May 8, 2004

Thanks mods, peace. Still, this guy Megaloman is kind of a "special helmets" retard case, no?

Bob Morales posted:

There are quite a few 11.6" ultrabooks out there from Acer, Asus, and Apple. You can get them with the i7 CPU.

I guess I'm looking for a netbook, I don't think an ultrabook is a netbook, no? Plus I don't want that giant mousepad on the ultrabook, it's such wasted space.

e- ah ok, it looks like 11.6 is the direction I want to look, thanks so much!

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Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006

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Megaman posted:

I guess I'm looking for a netbook, I don't think an ultrabook is a netbook, no? Plus I don't want that giant mousepad on the ultrabook, it's such wasted space.

e- ah ok, it looks like 11.6 is the direction I want to look, thanks so much!
They're better in every way.

edit: netbooks are dead, I think

Megaman
May 8, 2004

Thanks mods, peace. Still, this guy Megaloman is kind of a "special helmets" retard case, no?

Bob Morales posted:

They're better in every way.

edit: netbooks are dead, I think

Ok, looks like I have some good choices, but I've also noticed the keyboard style is going away from something like the 1000ha and towards more mac style chiclet clickity clack keyboard. Do these keyboard styles even exist anymore? In other words should I bother looking for the one that I like and am used to?

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006

HYPER-THREADING


Megaman posted:

Ok, looks like I have some good choices, but I've also noticed the keyboard style is going away from something like the 1000ha and towards more mac style chiclet clickity clack keyboard. Do these keyboard styles even exist anymore? In other words should I bother looking for the one that I like and am used to?

The keyboards are full sized now, no more of the 92% keyboards that you saw in the 10.1" netbooks

Megaman
May 8, 2004

Thanks mods, peace. Still, this guy Megaloman is kind of a "special helmets" retard case, no?

Bob Morales posted:

The keyboards are full sized now, no more of the 92% keyboards that you saw in the 10.1" netbooks

I can't seem to find any full size keyboards on any model sans trackpad/mousepad, can you possibly link me to any?

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006

HYPER-THREADING


You don't want a trackpad?

Megaman
May 8, 2004

Thanks mods, peace. Still, this guy Megaloman is kind of a "special helmets" retard case, no?

Bob Morales posted:

You don't want a trackpad?

Are there laptops with those little rubbery mouse nobs in the middle of keyboard with some kind of buttons to go with it? The trackpad takes up so much space.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006

HYPER-THREADING


Megaman posted:

Are there laptops with those little rubbery mouse nobs in the middle of keyboard with some kind of buttons to go with it? The trackpad takes up so much space.

The 11.6" MacBook Air has a smaller trackpad than the 13" Air. The Lenovo X230 has a trackpoint in the keyboard but it also has a touchpad.

They have to use the space for something.

Maybe you want a Sony VAIO P series?

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

If you touch him again,
I will end you!


Megaman posted:

Are there laptops with those little rubbery mouse nobs in the middle of keyboard with some kind of buttons to go with it? The trackpad takes up so much space.

How is it taking up space? What should be there instead? It doesn't hurt to have a huge trackpad.

Megaman
May 8, 2004

Thanks mods, peace. Still, this guy Megaloman is kind of a "special helmets" retard case, no?

Bob Morales posted:

The 11.6" MacBook Air has a smaller trackpad than the 13" Air. The Lenovo X230 has a trackpoint in the keyboard but it also has a touchpad.

They have to use the space for something.

Maybe you want a Sony VAIO P series?



This is exactly what I'm talking about, thank you!

Tenasscity
Jan 1, 2010


Should I wait to get a work Laptop? My budget is around 300$, I found some decent Lenovo laptops on the outlet site for around 350 with an i3, 4gb RAM and Intel HD 3000 video processor. Those laptops seem fine for my needs and a little gaming during lunchtime.

With the new bridge coming out, would it be better to wait a couple months for everything to roll down a bit or will I not see a much better deal for many months ahead.

shrughes
Oct 11, 2008

(call/cc call/cc)


Megaman posted:

This is exactly what I'm talking about, thank you!

The trouble is that the Vaio P was slow as rear end (partly due to bad engineering, partly due to size) but it did suffice as a basic text-editing and internet-browsing machine (if you used Chrome).

Its keyboard isn't quite full size, but it's comfortable to type with. It's also a couple years old by now and quite hard to find.

The most powerful "netbook" ever made (since you asked) might be the Panasonic CF-J10. A 10.1" 1366x768 screen, Sandy Bridge i5 or i7 processor, USB 3.0, an ExpressCard slot in some high-end models, a keyboard that would be a dream to type on if you had girl hands...

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FISHMANPET
Mar 3, 2007



Megaman posted:

This is exactly what I'm talking about, thank you!

No, that was a joke response posting a terrible machine. You don't want that. That runs Vista, it's not made anymore (doesn't look like the P series has been updated).

The point being made is that the trackpad isn't "taking up space" because that space is there no matter what. You can't have the top of the laptop overhang the bottom by 3 inches when the lid is closed, so there's going to be space below the keyboard. A 16x9 laptop (which is all of them) is going to have space below the keyboard, so why not put a trackpad there.

Megaman
May 8, 2004

Thanks mods, peace. Still, this guy Megaloman is kind of a "special helmets" retard case, no?

shrughes posted:

The trouble is that the Vaio P was slow as rear end (partly due to bad engineering, partly due to size) but it did suffice as a basic text-editing and internet-browsing machine (if you used Chrome).

Its keyboard isn't quite full size, but it's comfortable to type with. It's also a couple years old by now and quite hard to find.

The most powerful "netbook" ever made (since you asked) might be the Panasonic CF-J10. A 10.1" 1366x768 screen, Sandy Bridge i5 or i7 processor, USB 3.0, an ExpressCard slot in some high-end models, a keyboard that would be a dream to type on if you had girl hands...

Looks like you're right. I think I'll have to bite the bullet and buy one with a trackpad. Looks as though this is my best option for the smallest most powerful laptop: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...N82E16834215678 Acer Aspire V5-171-9661 Notebook Intel Core i7 3517U(1.90GHz) 11.6" 8GB Memory 500GB HDD 5400rpm Intel HD Graphics 4000

RVProfootballer
Apr 30, 2012

Greatest and Best Ever

Do you really want a 5400 rpm hard drive instead of an SSD? For $700, I think you should be able to find something <13" that comes with a 128GB SSD.

InstantInfidel
Jan 8, 2010

BEST I EVER SPENT

Megaman posted:

Looks like you're right. I think I'll have to bite the bullet and buy one with a trackpad. Looks as though this is my best option for the smallest most powerful laptop: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...N82E16834215678 Acer Aspire V5-171-9661 Notebook Intel Core i7 3517U(1.90GHz) 11.6" 8GB Memory 500GB HDD 5400rpm Intel HD Graphics 4000

Do not buy an Acer. If you really want to drop the trackpad, look into a T61 on ebay. They're older, but they're good machines.

Doctor Asshole
Jul 7, 2007

Chief Product Ambassador
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Why don't you get an X230? You want it to be small for portability, right? That Acer is going to fall apart if you move it around a lot. The Acer also has a ULV processor which is lower-performance than the ones you can get in the X230.
The X230 isn't much bigger, either:
Acer:
11.22" x 7.95" x 0.82"-1.09" ~ 85 cubic inches
X230
12.01" x 8.13" x 0.75" - 1.05" ~ 88 cubic inches

shrughes
Oct 11, 2008

(call/cc call/cc)


FISHMANPET posted:

No, that was a joke response posting a terrible machine. You don't want that. That runs Vista, it's not made anymore (doesn't look like the P series has been updated).

The latest Vaio P ran Windows 7, for what it's worth.

FISHMANPET
Mar 3, 2007



shrughes posted:

The latest Vaio P ran Windows 7, for what it's worth.

Yeah, Win 7 Home Premium 32 bit, (at least according to Wikipedia).

As nice as Sony hardware may be, the software is just absolute poo poo.

Megaman
May 8, 2004

Thanks mods, peace. Still, this guy Megaloman is kind of a "special helmets" retard case, no?

InstantInfidel posted:

Do not buy an Acer. If you really want to drop the trackpad, look into a T61 on ebay. They're older, but they're good machines.

Any reason why you warn against them?

InstantInfidel
Jan 8, 2010

BEST I EVER SPENT

They're cheap for a reason: poor build quality, lovely support, and awful components. They use cheap screens with poor dimension:pixel values (768p on 15.6" is a nightmare), they use cheap hard drives that will noticeably impact performance, and their support is the definition of "poo poo-tier". Some of their new ultrabooks aren't too shabby, but they're overpriced for what you get. In particular, the model he linked is especially guilty of distracting the consumer with a bunch of model numbers and flashy specs to conceal the fact that it skimps out on the display, the hard drive, and the keyboard (it sucks too).

tl;dr: never buy an Acer if anything (even an HP) is an alternative choice.

edit: oh, hey, I missed that it's a dual-core i7, which is practically a scam in and of itself in a consumer notebook. You will notice no real-time performance increase over a mobile i5, unless you're compiling code or video editing, in which case you should get a desktop or a workstation anyway.

edit2: If you want something small and awesome, get this Asus. It's almost entirely metal and it's one of the best netbook-sized laptops they've ever made. An i3 will do anything you want it to do and *might* play some older games, certainly newer Indy ones.

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unpronounceable
Apr 4, 2010

I told you already, it's pronounced ugzofdodwollicasjab!

I'm trying to figure out how much I have to earn this summer to replace my piece of poo poo HP. I've decided I'd really like a T430 or T440, but I'm mainly looking for something sturdy with a 14" screen and a resolution with more than 768 vertical pixels. I'm hoping to keep it below $700 before tax, but I can flex a bit on that.

If I'm not looking at a Thinkpad, what should I look at? If I do end up getting one, is there a discount like the Barnes and Noble one, but for Canada? What about a Canadian Lenovo outlet?

InstantInfidel
Jan 8, 2010

BEST I EVER SPENT

If you have a friend across the border who'd be willing to let you ship it to their address, do that. You'll pay out the rear end from Lenovo.ca. Otherwise, check out anything Asus makes; they're pretty good for consumer laptops and should be available in brick and mortar stores in your area (or in a major metropolitan area if you're in the middle of Newfoundland or something).

Drevoak
Jan 30, 2007


My Asus 1215n is old and I'm looking at replacing it.

Are there any laptop companies that are good on the software side? As in they don't add bloatware, keep drivers up to date (Asus was notoriously bad at this, they'd make new drivers but say they were only a few models even though they were an improvement for others), and have their laptops use the generic nvidia/ati video drivers?

Can laptops nowadays handle 1080p videos? My 1215n could handle 720p mkvs for the most part but had no chance with 1080p.

I'm just looking for a laptop that is 13" (14 if its really good), has a SSD, not meant for gaming just browsing and videos, and for $600. I've noticed that 1366x768 is still the standard resolution, going higher than that adds a lot to the price. Is that ever going to change?

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

Welcome to the Jungle


resolution: may improve with haswell, see also: ultrabooks come with touchscreens standard due to intel tightening requirements on their "ultrabook" definition

13" and awesome with good driver support: x230, macbook air

1080p: anything Sandy bridge (read: 2011 and forward) has no problem. Ivy Bridge's HD4000 rocks 1080p on an external monitor no problem, Haswell is supposed to be 50% better than that.

Protagorean
May 19, 2013


Just a few days ago, I got an Acer Aspire V5 (one of the $500-700 ones with an i5 processor and HD Graphics 4000)as a graduation gift from the grandparents, just as I was about to plug the folks for a ~$1200 custom-built gaming machine from Digital Storm. While it's been just a peach the few days I've used it, and the touchscreen with Windows 8 (which I'd never thought I'd run on one of MY machines) has endeared itself to me as well as been a hit at parties, I can't help but feel uncertain as to whether or not I've been rescued from my own impudence or once again placated with distractions at a nice price-point, as has been the case in the past.

As I'm going off to college starting in August, a good one or two thousand miles between me and home, what should my plans with this thing be? Should I be grateful for an excuse, at no expense to me, to hold off until new chips with the Haswell architecture starts showing up to be put in my dream machine? Should I feel slighted, in the way only an upper-middle class American entrenched in consumerist culture should? Or, going off previous posts on this page, should I treat this thing with the same apprehension and loathing as the last Acer we got, a little black turd of disappointment with no redeeming features whatsoever?

hooah
Feb 6, 2006
WTF?

Has anyone heard of Avatar? I was poking around Newegg and came across this ultrabook. The specs look nice, it has pretty good reviews, and this guy over here seems to think it's pretty well-made. The price is great, and I like that it comes without bloatware. Would I be crazy to get this?

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InstantInfidel
Jan 8, 2010

BEST I EVER SPENT

Protagorean posted:

Just a few days ago, I got an Acer Aspire V5 (one of the $500-700 ones with an i5 processor and HD Graphics 4000)as a graduation gift from the grandparents, just as I was about to plug the folks for a ~$1200 custom-built gaming machine from Digital Storm. While it's been just a peach the few days I've used it, and the touchscreen with Windows 8 (which I'd never thought I'd run on one of MY machines) has endeared itself to me as well as been a hit at parties, I can't help but feel uncertain as to whether or not I've been rescued from my own impudence or once again placated with distractions at a nice price-point, as has been the case in the past.

As I'm going off to college starting in August, a good one or two thousand miles between me and home, what should my plans with this thing be? Should I be grateful for an excuse, at no expense to me, to hold off until new chips with the Haswell architecture starts showing up to be put in my dream machine? Should I feel slighted, in the way only an upper-middle class American entrenched in consumerist culture should? Or, going off previous posts on this page, should I treat this thing with the same apprehension and loathing as the last Acer we got, a little black turd of disappointment with no redeeming features whatsoever?

I feel like a jerk, sorry . Let me try and remedy that: if it suits you, use it. Just understand, it won't stand up to even the moderate abuse that some machines will. Next, I was in your shoes a couple of years ago, and made the choice not to get a gaming desktop and to not play video games in college. Take my word for it, do that. You'll enjoy college a hundred times more.

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