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LaptopGun
Sep 2, 2006

All I'm going to get out of him is a snappy one-liner and, if I'm real lucky, a brand new nickname.

Waffnuffly, she/you/you both are in an OK position. She knows what she wants but isn't close minded about things. Sonys are basically one of only 2 or 3 brands I'd trust for consumer grade laptops, from what I've read anyway way. Be aware there's a lot of preinstalled crap on Sonys she or probably you would prefer to uninstall. I really did browse what Newegg had... only to discover practically every ones were glossy. Well, not the Lenovos and strangely a couple Asus gamer laptops... I'm sorry!

Cheapest warranties through manufacturers are Thinkpads (last I heard 3 years went for $80), followed by Dell. Those laptop warrenties on via Newegg probably are cheaper though. The Thinkpad might be too much bland looks for her and that Lattitude would be easy to cobble down with coupons and the upcomming "need to get rid of the old models." Actually, T500 Thinkpads are pretty cheap right now given new models will be out in the next 1-2 months.

Comedy Option: can she wait 1-2 months? New Intel CPUs means everyone will try to nuke their supplies of older generation laptops. Perhaps you two can score a Sony NW on the cheap. Not good advice, I know... Good luck

Edit, on a lark I went to the Sony website. Let's just say the asking price there for a NW was not good.

LaptopGun fucked around with this message at Dec 28, 2009 around 02:33

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Buff Skeleton
Oct 24, 2005



Thanks for that. Yeah I doubt she wants to wait 2 months, but I'll make a note of that and tell her. And I will definitely be cleaning the hell out of the machine for her when it shows up so she doesn't have all the bloat to mess with. I didn't realize Thinkpads had 3-year warranties, and for less than the Sony's 2-year as well. That might be a good bargaining chip. I'll keep looking at Latitudes and Lenovos/Thinkpads.

Anyone know of any good, reputable sites that carry the dell Latitudes? We have some at work and they are very sturdy, but oddly enough Newegg doesn't have any.

Buff Skeleton fucked around with this message at Dec 28, 2009 around 03:01

ryanbruce
May 1, 2002

The "Dell Dude"


So the Vostro V13 was released with pretty limited fanfare, but it looks like a spectacular unit for its price point. It's super thin and super super light which is rather tempting.

For $770 you get:

Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium, with Media, 32-bit, English
2.0GB, DDR3-1066MHz SDRAM, 1 DIMM
320GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive
3 Year Basic Limited Warranty and 3 Year NBD On-Site Service
Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor ULV SU7300 (3M Cache, 1.30 GHz, 800 MHz FSB)
Mobile Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 4500MHD
1.3MP Webcam with Digital Microphone
Intel Pro/Wireless 5100 802.11b/g/n
6-cell 30WHr internal battery

For an extra $169 you get 3yrs of accidental coverage too. The only flaw I can see is that it doesn't have a user-serviceable battery which could become a problem down the line. Has anyone seen any real world feedback on this notebook?

PaulC
Oct 23, 2005



ryanbruce posted:

So the Vostro V13 was released with pretty limited fanfare, but it looks like a spectacular unit for its price point. It's super thin and super super light which is rather tempting.

The ASUS UL series is the CULV standard. Compare against that. The UL30A-X5 is 699 on amazon, has 4 gb ram, 64 bit windows, 500 gb hdd, and a bigger battery.

LaptopGun
Sep 2, 2006

All I'm going to get out of him is a snappy one-liner and, if I'm real lucky, a brand new nickname.

Waffnuffly posted:

Thanks for that. Yeah I doubt she wants to wait 2 months, but I'll make a note of that and tell her. And I will definitely be cleaning the hell out of the machine for her when it shows up so she doesn't have all the bloat to mess with. I didn't realize Thinkpads had 3-year warranties, and for less than the Sony's 2-year as well. That might be a good bargaining chip. I'll keep looking at Latitudes and Lenovos/Thinkpads.

Anyone know of any good, reputable sites that carry the dell Latitudes? We have some at work and they are very sturdy, but oddly enough Newegg doesn't have any.

Not Dell Lattitudes, or even the Vostro, but HP has some Vostro-wannabe that seems to be alright in price. 4510s, makes sure you click all models to look at every config they offer. Good luck figuring out what they want for warrenty. http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/e...52-3934828.html

Notebookreview.com wasn't impressed though http://www.notebookreview.com/defau...p+probook+4510s

Regicide
May 26, 2008


Does anybody have any other reccomendations for a gaming laptop, besides this and this?

Recap: I'm in the Army, and going to Korea so I'm not going to be lugging around a desktop. I sold my custom built before I shipped to Basic and am looking to buy a comparable laptop before I go to Korea for around $800-$1500...

Super Rad
Feb 15, 2003
Sir Loin of Beef

I'm looking to get a budget laptop, ideally in the sub $500 range (will go up to sub $600 if it's a spectacular deal).

I've been eyeing slickdeals and newegg for good deal, and lenovo has some good ones going right now.

Anyhow here are the criteria I'm looking at:

#1 Durability. I want a laptop that has a good track record, and that's one of the main reasons I'm willing to go above $500; if I can get a laptop that I can expect to last a couple extra years, there's no problem in shelling out a little extra up front.

#2 Portability / battery life. Definitely looking almost exclusively in the 14-15.6" range.

#3 Extra frills. Coming with Windows 7-64 pre-loaded is a definite plus. Having a discreet video card would also be nice, although I guess this is one of the least pressing concerns.

So here's what I'm looking at so far, available through lenovo's contractor site:

Lenovo Y550:
15.6"
T6600
4GB DDR3
Windows 7-64
320GB HDD
~$600

This is an excellent deal compared to other things on the market. The Y series has a good reputation, and outside of the fact that it comes with just the intel video (and the HDMI out), it's pretty much packed to the gills with quality components.

It is outside of my price range but close enough to make the purchase worth it.

Lenove G450:
14"
T4300
4GB DDR3
Windows 7-64
320GB HDD
~$480

Within my price range, small footprint / slower CPU than the Y550. This would be my ideal choice, but I'm not sure how the overall build quality compares between the G and Y series.

Which is the better deal? Are there better offers out there that I've missed? Will it be very much worth it just to wait a couple months? Any input would be much appreciated since I'm not too familiar with laptops.

Shalinor
Jun 10, 2002

Can I buy you a root beer?


Regicide posted:

Does anybody have any other reccomendations for a gaming laptop, besides this and this?
I'm kind of looking at this, but only because I wanted a slightly more future-proofed graphics card. For rougher use in hotter climates, the ASUS is probably the safer bet. I assume the 280M runs hotter, and it overshoots your window by $100ish.

InterceptorV8
Mar 9, 2004

Would have been a shame to blow it up.


Regicide posted:

Does anybody have any other reccomendations for a gaming laptop, besides this and this?

Recap: I'm in the Army, and going to Korea so I'm not going to be lugging around a desktop. I sold my custom built before I shipped to Basic and am looking to buy a comparable laptop before I go to Korea for around $800-$1500...

How about this?

Walk into a Bestbuy and they might have one there.

Regicide
May 26, 2008


InterceptorV8 posted:

How about this?

Walk into a Bestbuy and they might have one there.

The link isn't working. I am gonna try searching for it based on the info in the url but I don't know how lucky I'll be.

ryanbruce
May 1, 2002

The "Dell Dude"


Regicide posted:

The link isn't working. I am gonna try searching for it based on the info in the url but I don't know how lucky I'll be.

Best Buy embeds their SKU into their URLs. Do a Google search for Best Buy 9556125 and it was on the front page. I'm on my cell so I didn't bother clicking through though.

Instant Stalker
Aug 8, 2002
JUST ADD RAPE


Just picked up this guy from best buy last night for 400 bux. As far as laptops go, it's crappy. However, for 400 dollars with those specs, it'll do for the girlfriend.

Godzilla07
Oct 4, 2008

back to the future.


Instant Stalker posted:

Just picked up this guy from best buy last night for 400 bux. As far as laptops go, it's crappy. However, for 400 dollars with those specs, it'll do for the girlfriend.

One warning: don't even think about unplugging that thing from the wall. All you will get is 2 hours of battery life.

InterceptorV8
Mar 9, 2004

Would have been a shame to blow it up.


Regicide posted:

The link isn't working. I am gonna try searching for it based on the info in the url but I don't know how lucky I'll be.

Asus G72GX-RBBX05

I bought it and it's pretty good so far. Also I believe you can drop another HD in it if needed.

Regicide
May 26, 2008


Wow, this is pretty drat good and for that price? That seems better than the two laptops I linked and for a much cheaper price... It seems pretty drat good...

So, now that I'm narrowing down my choices... this is my first laptop. I was pretty good at maintaining my desktop on both the hardware and software side. Is there anything else I need to know to keep my laptop in the best shape it can be?

Scaramouche
Mar 26, 2001

SPACE FACE! SPACE FACE!

Anybody get their hands on the Adamo XPS? My boss is asking me to price one out for him and I was curious if anyone had any pro/con stories. It looks insane sizewise, and apparently the keyboard actually disappears into the display. I know already that it's:

Pros:
- Incredibly small
- Stylin
- Really really small
- Nice display

Cons:
- Anemic processor
- Not much battery life gain for size reduction
- Super expensive for what you get

Anyone have any experience?

The Jizzer
Mar 19, 2003

...a man that doesn't spend time with his family can never be a real man.

So apparently the criteria I had for a business laptop are going to change now that I have a better idea of what they're installing for me:

- Good battery life (3.5+ hours)
- CD/DVD drive (netbooks and "thin" laptops are oot)
- Decent performance for running terribly bulky, poorly programmed insurance quoting software
- Budget $500-700

I really hate reading laptop reviews online because user reviews will be 80-90% while magazines poo poo all over them, or vice versa.

FISHMANPET
Mar 3, 2007



The Jizzer posted:

So apparently the criteria I had for a business laptop are going to change now that I have a better idea of what they're installing for me:

- Good battery life (3.5+ hours)
- CD/DVD drive (netbooks and "thin" laptops are oot)
- Decent performance for running terribly bulky, poorly programmed insurance quoting software
- Budget $500-700

I really hate reading laptop reviews online because user reviews will be 80-90% while magazines poo poo all over them, or vice versa.

Depending on what you need the DVD drive for, you may still be able to get a netbook. You can get a USB DVD drive for like $50, so unless it's something you'll always be using, you still have the option.

HondaCivet
Oct 16, 2005

3 elements down, 1 to go!


Augh, there are too many drat laptops out there, I need some help.

Here's an outline of what I'm looking for:

-Small and portable (~13")
-Reasonably rugged build, I won't be able to afford to replace it for awhile
-Sub-$1000 definitely, even lower than that would be good
-Fairly good performance--I don't need it to be super fast but I'd like it to still be usable for a few years

I was thinking about a Macbook but apparently their hard drive hookup is proprietary so I couldn't pop in my own SSD down the road if I wanted. Also it's only capable of holding 4GB, so if 64-bit becomes more prevalent down the road it'll get obsolete fast. And it's still $900 even with a student discount. Anyone have any ideas? Is a Macbook worth it or could I get something comparable or better for less?

HondaCivet fucked around with this message at Dec 30, 2009 around 03:06

Zero VGS
Aug 16, 2002
"It has gunfights and shit!"

InterceptorV8 posted:

Asus G72GX-RBBX05

I bought it and it's pretty good so far. Also I believe you can drop another HD in it if needed.

Speaking of which, check out what this guy just bought:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...em=170424972714

Slightly used G72GX-RBBX05.

$925 shipped on Ebay.
-$72 8% Bing Instant Cashback
-$18 2% Ebay Bucks
-$24 3% MrRebates.com rebate
-$18 2% Discover Card cashback on online purchases until the end of the week.
=
$793 shipped... hopefully this thing works! Gotta be risky on Ebay to nab the deals.

InterceptorV8
Mar 9, 2004

Would have been a shame to blow it up.


Zero VGS posted:

Speaking of which, check out what this guy just bought:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...em=170424972714

Slightly used G72GX-RBBX05.

$925 shipped on Ebay.
-$72 8% Bing Instant Cashback
-$18 2% Ebay Bucks
-$24 3% MrRebates.com rebate
-$18 2% Discover Card cashback on online purchases until the end of the week.
=
$793 shipped... hopefully this thing works! Gotta be risky on Ebay to nab the deals.

gently caress, that's a deal.

spydermn
Nov 9, 2003

Take it, you know you like it

Torn between two laptops and need advice. One of these will replace an old Dell Inspiron. I want it to be able to surf the net and to play Eve, not run Crysis at max settings. Other than that I'd really like it to last for 3-5 years without looking to replace it. I know you can't future proof any pc/laptop but my inspiron was 7 years old and still running things decently for me before the hard drive died.

Dell Studio XPS 16 1642.00
PROCESSOR Intel® Core™ 2 Duo T6600 (2MB cache/2.2GHz/800Mhz FSB)
Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium, 64bit, English
HD DISPLAY Edge-to-Edge FullHD Widescreen 16.0 inch RGBLED LCD (1920x1080) W/2.0 MP
MEMORY 4GB Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1067MHz (2 Dimms)
HARD DRIVE 128GB Solid State Drive
INTERNAL OPTICAL DRIVE 8X Slot Load CD/DVD Burner (Dual Layer DVD+/-R Drive)
VIDEO CARD ATI Mobility RADEON™ HD 4670 – 1GB
WIRELESS CARDS Dell Wireless 1520 802.11n Half Mini-Card
BATTERY 6-cell Battery

or

HP Pavilion dv7t Quad Edition 1593.00
Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
PROCESSOR Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-720QM Processor (1.6GHz, 6MB L2 Cache, 1333MHz FSB)
MEMORY 4GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm)
VIDEO CARD 1GB Nvidia GeForce GT 230M
HARD DRIVE 320GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection
HD DISPLAY 17.3" diagonal HD+ High-Definition HP LED BrightView Infinity Widescreen Display (1600 x 900)
INTERNAL OPTICAL DRIVE Lightscribe Blu-Ray ROM with SuperMulti DVD+/-R/RW Double Layer
WIRELESS CARDS Intel Wireless-N Mini-card
BATTERY 8 Cell Lithium Ion Battery

The HP has a larger lcd and comes with a blue ray player. The Dell comes with a solid state drive over the 7200rpm drive in the HP. The solid state drive isn't an option with HP yet. Also is the ATI mobility Radeon HD 4670 1GB card ALOT better than the Nvidia GeForce GT230M? Would any of you choose one over the other based on these differences? Also in the price with both of these laptops is their 3year protection plans which is supposed to cover spills, drops etc. Don't know if that helps or not but ANY advice you can give would be greatly appreciated.

Instant Stalker
Aug 8, 2002
JUST ADD RAPE


HondaCivet posted:

Augh, there are too many drat laptops out there, I need some help.

Here's an outline of what I'm looking for:

-Small and portable (~13")
-Reasonably rugged build, I won't be able to afford to replace it for awhile
-Sub-$1000 definitely, even lower than that would be good
-Fairly good performance--I don't need it to be super fast but I'd like it to still be usable for a few years

I was thinking about a Macbook but apparently their hard drive hookup is proprietary so I couldn't pop in my own SSD down the road if I wanted. Also it's only capable of holding 4GB, so if 64-bit becomes more prevalent down the road it'll get obsolete fast. And it's still $900 even with a student discount. Anyone have any ideas? Is a Macbook worth it or could I get something comparable or better for less?
Keep in mind that is DDR3 memory, and getting 4gb sticks of any laptop memory is expensive - at least it is from what I saw on amazon. Regarding, non-apple laptops, try to find 8 gb (2 dimms) of laptop ddr3 memory for cheap. That'll be 200 500 bux right there. Also, unless you're ricing up to an i7 or something, I'd recommend against shooting for a ddr3 laptop exclusively. Yes, it's better, but you wont notice it. Your most noticeable performance boost will be with that solid state drive.

I'd suggest trying to get a laptop with a reasonable amount of ram already in it, unless you have spare ram or patience lying around. 3+ gigs of ddr2 is just fine

Also, OCZ makes some "mac" solid state drives link to newegg listing. That'll be 200 bux. But, your ssd price is going to be around 200-300 bux for that size non-crappy ssd anyway.

700-800 bux left

As far as macbook prices go (i'm assuming you're not interested in a macbook pro?) you could've got a new one for 728.00 earlier if you were from the university of maryland. But at the moment, they're 849.00 as refurbs. IMO a mac refurb is just as good as a new mac - same warranty.

If it's a mac you're after, godspeed. But, since you're going for good build quality in your PC or your MAC you might find yourself slightly .. sliiightly over your budget (200 bux or so after taxes?) with that SSD, unless you find some great deals. I can't tell you if the SSD is worth it right now, but I've heard nothing but awesomeness when they're ever mentioned - I just picked one up from amazon yesterday and haven't gotten it yet though.

As far as pc laptops go in the 13.3 range. I know there's the dell studio xps 13 which is pretty "rugged" I guess.

edit: I wasn't sure if your 1000 dollar range was for just the laptop or for the laptop with upgrades. I assumed you meant with the upgrades.

Instant Stalker fucked around with this message at Dec 30, 2009 around 09:59

Skywalker OG
Apr 5, 2009


Alright I was researching laptops for a month or so straight because I was basically ignored by the previous iteration of this thread for 2 months straight.
I'll try to help you guys out as much as I can with my limited knowledge and tremendous stupidity.

I finally chose a 14 in. Sony Vaio VPC-CW18FX/B. Looks to be pretty good, my friend has one and I basically got a better version of his for 899.
P7450 at 2.1ghz, and a Geforce 230M. Hopefully it is nice. It's coming in the mail today sometime, so I'll post something up about it later. Problem is the version with the 230M for some strange reason is discontinued or something, and they only come with 210M now.

Was between this and a Lenovo y450, a 14 in. with a semi-glossy screen, a P8700 at 2.53ghz, and a 240M, battery at 2.5-3 hrs, at closer to 1000, but couldn't get this at express shipping.

Godzilla07
Oct 4, 2008

back to the future.


spydermn posted:

Torn between two laptops and need advice. One of these will replace an old Dell Inspiron. I want it to be able to surf the net and to play Eve, not run Crysis at max settings. Other than that I'd really like it to last for 3-5 years without looking to replace it. I know you can't future proof any pc/laptop but my inspiron was 7 years old and still running things decently for me before the hard drive died.

Dell Studio XPS 16 1642.00
PROCESSOR Intel® Core™ 2 Duo T6600 (2MB cache/2.2GHz/800Mhz FSB)
Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium, 64bit, English
HD DISPLAY Edge-to-Edge FullHD Widescreen 16.0 inch RGBLED LCD (1920x1080) W/2.0 MP
MEMORY 4GB Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1067MHz (2 Dimms)
HARD DRIVE 128GB Solid State Drive
INTERNAL OPTICAL DRIVE 8X Slot Load CD/DVD Burner (Dual Layer DVD+/-R Drive)
VIDEO CARD ATI Mobility RADEON™ HD 4670 – 1GB
WIRELESS CARDS Dell Wireless 1520 802.11n Half Mini-Card
BATTERY 6-cell Battery

or

HP Pavilion dv7t Quad Edition 1593.00
Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
PROCESSOR Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-720QM Processor (1.6GHz, 6MB L2 Cache, 1333MHz FSB)
MEMORY 4GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm)
VIDEO CARD 1GB Nvidia GeForce GT 230M
HARD DRIVE 320GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection
HD DISPLAY 17.3" diagonal HD+ High-Definition HP LED BrightView Infinity Widescreen Display (1600 x 900)
INTERNAL OPTICAL DRIVE Lightscribe Blu-Ray ROM with SuperMulti DVD+/-R/RW Double Layer
WIRELESS CARDS Intel Wireless-N Mini-card
BATTERY 8 Cell Lithium Ion Battery

The HP has a larger lcd and comes with a blue ray player. The Dell comes with a solid state drive over the 7200rpm drive in the HP. The solid state drive isn't an option with HP yet. Also is the ATI mobility Radeon HD 4670 1GB card ALOT better than the Nvidia GeForce GT230M? Would any of you choose one over the other based on these differences? Also in the price with both of these laptops is their 3year protection plans which is supposed to cover spills, drops etc. Don't know if that helps or not but ANY advice you can give would be greatly appreciated.

The HP comes with a quad-core i7. But I'm not too keen on recommending HP consumer laptops as they're unreliable junk. Drop the SSD in the Dell, get a faster processor and get a 500 GB 7200 RPM drive instead if possible. If you want a SSD in your laptop, just go with the base drive that's configurable and get an aftermarket OCZ or Intel SSD.

spydermn
Nov 9, 2003

Take it, you know you like it

Godzilla07 posted:

The HP comes with a quad-core i7. But I'm not too keen on recommending HP consumer laptops as they're unreliable junk. Drop the SSD in the Dell, get a faster processor and get a 500 GB 7200 RPM drive instead if possible. If you want a SSD in your laptop, just go with the base drive that's configurable and get an aftermarket OCZ or Intel SSD.

Thanks man. I guess the HP looked a little better on paper and the reviews I checked out were ok so I was leaning that way. Are all HP consumer laptops pretty crappy these days?

The Jizzer
Mar 19, 2003

...a man that doesn't spend time with his family can never be a real man.

The Jizzer posted:

So apparently the criteria I had for a business laptop are going to change now that I have a better idea of what they're installing for me:

- Good battery life (3.5+ hours)
- CD/DVD drive (netbooks and "thin" laptops are oot)
- Decent performance for running terribly bulky, poorly programmed insurance quoting software
- Budget $500-700

I really hate reading laptop reviews online because user reviews will be 80-90% while magazines poo poo all over them, or vice versa.


I ended up getting a T400 (on sale @ SPP, plus 10% off coupon).
Decently configured for $731 including tax and shipping.

Figured that since my old T42 was probably the best PC laptop I've ever owned, and reviews on the new ones are just as good, I can't go wrong.

LaptopGun
Sep 2, 2006

All I'm going to get out of him is a snappy one-liner and, if I'm real lucky, a brand new nickname.

spydermn You can get lucky with HP. The problem is they seem physically incapable of designing a reliable cooling system so their laptops run hotter than average. In my opinion that leads to a lot of issues like fans dying, parts busting, plastic casing warping (note the rash of screen hinge failures they had two years ago), etc. Hell, is it any wonder that the first laptops anyone knew about to have the incredible melting Nvidia graphics cards fail were HPs?

I got a friend who swears by HP over Dell. He's had 2 fail on him and I'm wondering when he'll figure it out.

Graphics wise, Notebookcheck ranks the ATI 4670 ahead of the Nvidia GT230. I guess it's a small but noticeable difference.

Random notes: as already stated, buy your own SSD if you want one. As far as the Studio wireless cards go, make sure it's the Intel branded one. The Dell ones aren't as good. Upgrade the Studio's CPU to the P8400, 8600, or 8700. Trust me, if you were seriously considering a quad core, you'll appreciate the better performance and battery life of those C2D's

spydermn
Nov 9, 2003

Take it, you know you like it

LaptopGun posted:

spydermn You can get lucky with HP. The problem is they seem physically incapable of designing a reliable cooling system so their laptops run hotter than average. In my opinion that leads to a lot of issues like fans dying, parts busting, plastic casing warping (note the rash of screen hinge failures they had two years ago), etc. Hell, is it any wonder that the first laptops anyone knew about to have the incredible melting Nvidia graphics cards fail were HPs?

I got a friend who swears by HP over Dell. He's had 2 fail on him and I'm wondering when he'll figure it out.

Graphics wise, Notebookcheck ranks the ATI 4670 ahead of the Nvidia GT230. I guess it's a small but noticeable difference.

Random notes: as already stated, buy your own SSD if you want one. As far as the Studio wireless cards go, make sure it's the Intel branded one. The Dell ones aren't as good. Upgrade the Studio's CPU to the P8400, 8600, or 8700. Trust me, if you were seriously considering a quad core, you'll appreciate the better performance and battery life of those C2D's

Thanks for this! I was never entirely sold on the HP and after your post I'll definitely get the Dell. I've built pcs since the early 90's, would it be hard to order a dell compatible SSD from newegg or somewhere and put it in the laptop myself? Could anyone recommend the OCZ or the Intel SSD as Godzilla suggested? I don't consider myself a dell fanboy but I was really pleased with how long my old inspiron lasted me. I got 7 years out of it and just want to make sure the next one I get lasts close to that long. I did look at an ASUS that bestbuy had last fall. Several people in the old laptop thread said there were problems with the vid card overheating though so that turned me off.

edit - This is funny. Since typing this reply, I've gone back to both websites to see if anything was different and found that HP is now offering the 1GB ATI Mobility Radeon(TM) HD 4650. Guess not having the ATI card was hurting their sales or the nvidia card wasn't doing well in the laptop build?

spydermn fucked around with this message at Dec 30, 2009 around 20:06

HondaCivet
Oct 16, 2005

3 elements down, 1 to go!


Instant Stalker posted:

Keep in mind that is DDR3 memory, and getting 4gb sticks of any laptop memory is expensive - at least it is from what I saw on amazon. Regarding, non-apple laptops, try to find 8 gb (2 dimms) of laptop ddr3 memory for cheap. That'll be 200 500 bux right there. Also, unless you're ricing up to an i7 or something, I'd recommend against shooting for a ddr3 laptop exclusively. Yes, it's better, but you wont notice it. Your most noticeable performance boost will be with that solid state drive.

I'd suggest trying to get a laptop with a reasonable amount of ram already in it, unless you have spare ram or patience lying around. 3+ gigs of ddr2 is just fine

Also, OCZ makes some "mac" solid state drives link to newegg listing. That'll be 200 bux. But, your ssd price is going to be around 200-300 bux for that size non-crappy ssd anyway.

700-800 bux left

As far as macbook prices go (i'm assuming you're not interested in a macbook pro?) you could've got a new one for 728.00 earlier if you were from the university of maryland. But at the moment, they're 849.00 as refurbs. IMO a mac refurb is just as good as a new mac - same warranty.

If it's a mac you're after, godspeed. But, since you're going for good build quality in your PC or your MAC you might find yourself slightly .. sliiightly over your budget (200 bux or so after taxes?) with that SSD, unless you find some great deals. I can't tell you if the SSD is worth it right now, but I've heard nothing but awesomeness when they're ever mentioned - I just picked one up from amazon yesterday and haven't gotten it yet though.

As far as pc laptops go in the 13.3 range. I know there's the dell studio xps 13 which is pretty "rugged" I guess.

edit: I wasn't sure if your 1000 dollar range was for just the laptop or for the laptop with upgrades. I assumed you meant with the upgrades.

A Macbook Pro would be fine I guess but they all seem to be outside of my budget. Is there some significant difference between the two that is important? The specs seem to be about the same and I won't really miss Firewire.

That Dell looks nice but it's pretty pricey, especially compared to the Macbook.

I don't need the SSD right away but I'd just like to add one eventually I guess, maybe after prices go down a bit more. But that's cool that you can buy your own Mac SSDs, I didn't know that.

Godzilla07
Oct 4, 2008

back to the future.


spydermn posted:

Thanks for this! I was never entirely sold on the HP and after your post I'll definitely get the Dell. I've built pcs since the early 90's, would it be hard to order a dell compatible SSD from newegg or somewhere and put it in the laptop myself? Could anyone recommend the OCZ or the Intel SSD as Godzilla suggested?

You should be able to clone the drive image from the hard drive that comes with the laptop and put it onto the SSD. I'd rather get a 7200 RPM hard drive at the moment because I think that SSDs are still maturing. But if you want one, here's the advice from SH/SC's own SSD megathread.

SH/SC SSD megathread OP posted:

Which is the best consumer SSD? :

The top, in order of what's considered best, by consumer level performance/support first:

1.) Intel X-18/X-25M Line (Intel Controller) Comes in 40 GB (sold by Kingston), 80 GB and 160 GB capacities. Generation 2 drives introduced TRIM support. Kingston also sells re-badged versions of 80 GB and 160 GB drives.
2.) OCZ Vertex (Indilinx Barefoot Controller) Comes in 30GB, 60GB, and 120GB capacities.
3.) OCZ Agility (Indilinx Barefoot Controller) Comes in 30GB, 60GB, and 120GB capacities.
4.) All other Indilinx Barefoot Controller based SSDs

Intel SSDs give the best overall performance while OCZ comes in close. I think the OCZ drives are cheaper. Also, don't buy a SSD from Newegg. Their prices are terrible for SSDs.

s0j
May 17, 2003

get fucked, round-eye


I'm in the market for a high-end laptop and thought I might draw on the collective knowledge here.

Basically, I'm in grad school for architecture and therefore do a ton of 3D rendering/graphical production that really demands a lot of computing power. The benchmark for these types of machines seems to be Boxx, but their mobile workstation starts at $3500, and that's a bit steep for me. At school, I also have access to a render farm, so I can offload some of the heavier jobs. However, I think I'm going to need at least the following:

-Quad core (I7 is the new thing I guess?)
-At least 6gb of ddr3 ram. Ability to upgrade this would be a plus.
-1gb graphics card
-64-bit system architecture

Does anyone here work in a similar field and have any particular insights? I've been looking at HP computers, which seem to meet these requirements. The Envy 15 seems like it'd be able to handle the demands.

Anyway, any input would be much appreciated.

The_Angry_Turtle
Aug 2, 2007

BLARGH

Apparently I'm getting a Dell Studio 15 as my Christmas gift to replace my 7 year old Vaio and I'm a bit worried as to whether or not I'll be able to play any games at all on it.

The processor is a "Intel® Core™ 2 Duo T6600 (2.2GHz/800Mhz FSB/2MB cache)" and the video card is an "Intel Graphics Media Accelerator X4500HD". Will I be able play ANYTHING on this?

Regicide
May 26, 2008


InterceptorV8 posted:

Asus G72GX-RBBX05

I bought it and it's pretty good so far. Also I believe you can drop another HD in it if needed.

My mind is zeroing in on this laptop. It seems really loving good for the price. How's the battery life? And what do you not like about the laptop?

PaulC
Oct 23, 2005



The_Angry_Turtle posted:

Apparently I'm getting a Dell Studio 15 as my Christmas gift to replace my 7 year old Vaio and I'm a bit worried as to whether or not I'll be able to play any games at all on it.

The processor is a "Intel® Core™ 2 Duo T6600 (2.2GHz/800Mhz FSB/2MB cache)" and the video card is an "Intel Graphics Media Accelerator X4500HD". Will I be able play ANYTHING on this?

Sure, old stuff. Think Deus Ex, Max Payne. The graphics is too weak to play anything remotely modern.

Aargh
Sep 8, 2004



s0j posted:

I'm in the market for a high-end laptop and thought I might draw on the collective knowledge here.

Basically, I'm in grad school for architecture and therefore do a ton of 3D rendering/graphical production that really demands a lot of computing power. The benchmark for these types of machines seems to be Boxx, but their mobile workstation starts at $3500, and that's a bit steep for me. At school, I also have access to a render farm, so I can offload some of the heavier jobs. However, I think I'm going to need at least the following:

-Quad core (I7 is the new thing I guess?)
-At least 6gb of ddr3 ram. Ability to upgrade this would be a plus.
-1gb graphics card
-64-bit system architecture

Does anyone here work in a similar field and have any particular insights? I've been looking at HP computers, which seem to meet these requirements. The Envy 15 seems like it'd be able to handle the demands.

Anyway, any input would be much appreciated.

I posted after something similar a page or so ago and didn't get any responses. What I've gone through and have worked out so far is that you're pretty right on with specs there, there's an ASUS M60J which ticks most of those boxes as well as the Dell Studio XPS 16 which also has similar specs. The HP Envy's seem to be of similar spec but are significantly more expensive and they're made by HP so the quality is a bit dubious.

Godzilla07
Oct 4, 2008

back to the future.


HondaCivet posted:

A Macbook Pro would be fine I guess but they all seem to be outside of my budget. Is there some significant difference between the two that is important? The specs seem to be about the same and I won't really miss Firewire.

That Dell looks nice but it's pretty pricey, especially compared to the Macbook.

I don't need the SSD right away but I'd just like to add one eventually I guess, maybe after prices go down a bit more. But that's cool that you can buy your own Mac SSDs, I didn't know that.

You really don't have to buy a "Mac Edition" SSD. You can just pop in any SSD really into a MBP. Many people have done this in the SSD megathread with the Intel SSDs. For the MBP, look at the Apple refurb store. Get a 13'' refurb MBP, and add your own RAM and hard drive. For about the cost of a stock 13'' brand new MBP, you can get a 13'' MBP with 4 GB of RAM and a 500 GB 7200 RPM hard drive. It's pretty easy to upgrade RAM and the hard drive in the MBP from what I've seen.

Instant Stalker
Aug 8, 2002
JUST ADD RAPE


I've read that Macbooks have the problem, not Macbook Pro's ...

I don't have either one so I couldn't tell you for certain which is true or not.

LaptopGun
Sep 2, 2006

All I'm going to get out of him is a snappy one-liner and, if I'm real lucky, a brand new nickname.

Get the Intel G2 either 80 or 160GB. Hope you got the budget. The Vertex and other Barefoot drives are great too. Minor caveat: those drives just need to set SATA hard drive to compatibility mode in your BIOS to install Windows. After that, you can set it back to AHIC or however you spell it. On second thought, don't listen to me about installing a drive I don't own and just go read the SSD megathread.

I hate to keep bashing HP. Yet I have to. All non-business class laptops tend to be crapshoots. I' just give Dell better odds to not have stupid stuff go wrong (I say this knowing full well I've had a friend get screwed over on a Dell warranty)

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InterceptorV8
Mar 9, 2004

Would have been a shame to blow it up.


Regicide posted:

My mind is zeroing in on this laptop. It seems really loving good for the price. How's the battery life? And what do you not like about the laptop?

Battery life? It drops my truck batteries pretty quick, but that's a mix of loving cheap rear end Volvo batteries and diesel fired heater...

Oh wait, you mean the laptop? I just use the battery as a built in UPS. Problem areas, uh keyboard is a little bit different, and has a huge loving trackpad. Also I use a nano wireless mouse and the usb covers won't close on that side now.

It also has a monster sized power brick.

Still, it rocks.

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