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Toast Museum
Dec 3, 2005

30% Iron Chef


Josh Lyman posted:

Well poo poo, looks like I'll be holding off on my sorely needed Ivy Bridge laptop purchase until Intel changes this: http://www.overclockers.com/ivy-bridge-temperatures

Were you planning to do a lot of overclocking on your laptop?

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Toast Museum
Dec 3, 2005

30% Iron Chef


Out of curiosity, are there any complications with reformatting a Macbook and installing Windows on it? Maybe issues with the EFI or something like that?

Toast Museum
Dec 3, 2005

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I don't know if I'd call ultraportables a fad. Unless the average user's hardware needs increase sharply, I don't see any reason for most people to prefer bulkier designs.

Toast Museum
Dec 3, 2005

30% Iron Chef


Ample posted:

This is a repost, but can someone help me out:

My friend bought his laptop 7 years ago and he has finally decided to buy a new one for Diablo 3. His only requirements are a 15 inch screen, capable of running Diablo 3 on high settings and a nice screen. He wants to spend $500.00 - $800.00 on it. Size, battery life mean very little to him. I normally suggest Lenovo but the Y570 has disappointing screen resolution.

Maybe I'm overestimating Diablo 3 or underestimating current hardware, but that budget sounds kind of low for what he's expecting.

Toast Museum
Dec 3, 2005

30% Iron Chef


Hamburglar posted:

Should I be turning off pagefile with that much RAM?

If you've got an SSD, you can drop it down to a couple of GB. Otherwise don't mess with it.

Toast Museum
Dec 3, 2005

30% Iron Chef


etalian posted:

The only weakness of the concept is the keyboard and somewhat weak video cards due the size limitation.

It sounds like Ivy Bridge's graphics should be plenty for most people. Obviously they're a silly choice for high-end games though I think the same applies to ridiculous giant laptops

I've heard complaints about the keyboards on ultraportables, but I'm not clear on what exactly the issue is or how much it has to do with size limitations. Is it just antipathy towards chiclet keyboards, or is there something worse about those particular chiclet keyboards? My only recent hands-on with an ultraportable was about 90 seconds on a 13" Zenbook, and it didn't seem noticeably different from the keyboard on my aging Asus U80, but I didn't exactly have time to find problems.

Edit: re: tablets, they seem more niche to me than their popularity would indicate, but I'm on a computer all day anyway, so I'm not the target demographic at all. One thing that's changed my mind a little bit, though, was an article I read a few weeks ago about the larger touchscreen smartphones that are coming out. If you stop thinking of them as giant phones and start thinking of them as mini-tablets that you might occasionally take a call on, they start to make more sense.

Toast Museum fucked around with this message at May 17, 2012 around 02:25

Toast Museum
Dec 3, 2005

30% Iron Chef


Do we have any recent stats on how often various brands/models are sent in for service under warranty? The last figures I saw are pretty dated by now.

Toast Museum
Dec 3, 2005

30% Iron Chef


Saw this in the Intel thread, apologies if it's already been posted here: Anandtech review of the 11.6" UX21a Zenbook Prime.

Anand posted:

I don't know that I've ever seen a faster turn around on implementing reviewer and user feedback into a product. The Zenbook Prime fixes nearly every issue I had with the original Zenbook. From keyboard to display, it's all significantly better with the Zenbook Prime.

If this is any indication of the Zenbook Prime line as a whole, there's no way I'm not getting one of the 13.3" models.

Toast Museum
Dec 3, 2005

30% Iron Chef


Rescue Toaster posted:

(hopefully coming later this year) external GPU's.

I just realized that what I really want is a Thunderbolt display with a PCIe slot.

Toast Museum
Dec 3, 2005

30% Iron Chef


On paper, at least, the only thing that doesn't thrill me about the Zenbook is the keyboard layout. It's partly a matter of familiarity, but I really like the layout on my U80A:



Aside from preferring full-size arrow keys, I don't love the idea of putting the power button on the keyboard. I'd rather have a small button that's separate from (and much stiffer than) the keyboard keys.

Toast Museum
Dec 3, 2005

30% Iron Chef


Bob Morales posted:

You have to hold it down to turn the machine off, or at least pick 'Shut down, reboot, cancel' if you bump it, don't you?

I assume it'll be hold to turn off plus software-configurable tap behavior. In Windows 7, the options are sleep, hibernate, shut down, or do nothing, with no prompts for any of them.

On my current machine I've disabled going to sleep when the lid closes (so I can tuck away the laptop when it's connected to my TV) and rely on the power button for sleep. It works well because it's hard to do accidentally. On a Zenbook I'd have to rethink that.

It's a non-issue for most users, of course, and it's far from a dealbreaker for me. This is also assuming that there's not some custom behavior for the key, which there easily could be.

Toast Museum
Dec 3, 2005

30% Iron Chef


Gilg posted:

If I go with a higher resolution display but toggle it to 1366x768 when they use it be really ugly?

I hate to suggest a lazy solution, but lots of average users run their displays at non-native resolutions and never even realize there's a problem. poo poo, look at all the people who stretch 4:3 content on their widescreen TVs and don't notice that everything's in funhouse mirror mode.

Toast Museum
Dec 3, 2005

30% Iron Chef


evilweasel posted:

I am a gigantic computer nerd, and I need a laptop for business: that means it needs to be able to internet, word process, use pdfs, etc. It also needs to be portable: the less it weighs the better. An ultrabook is optimizing a laptop for the features I actually want and need, not ones I could care less about.

Yeah, pretty much this. The relatively old Asus U80A I'm on right now does everything I need it to do for work. A Zenbook Prime would do it all a little better while being a lot lighter and having better battery life. Sure, it's less user-serviceable, but laptops aren't particularly user-serviceable anyway, so that doesn't really bother me.

Toast Museum
Dec 3, 2005

30% Iron Chef


shodanjr_gr posted:

To anyone who's got a W530 with Win8, are you left with two unrecognized devices (a "base system device" and an "unknown device") in device manager?

I've installed pretty much every single driver from Lenovo's site (Win7 and Win8) and I cant get rid of those two...

In device manager, go to properties -> details -> hardware IDs for both devices and get the vendor number and device number e.g. PCI\VEN_1969&DEV_1063&SUBSYS_18201043&REV_C0 (vendor 1969, device 1063). Using those, you can go to PCI Database and at least find out what they are.

Toast Museum
Dec 3, 2005

30% Iron Chef


shodanjr_gr posted:

One of them was the Ricoh SDXC card reader.

I fuckin' knew it! Ricoh card readers almost always show up as "base system device" for whatever reason.

Edit: for that second device, try ACPI/power management drivers. Those often have odd Hardware ID info.

Toast Museum fucked around with this message at Oct 18, 2012 around 01:17

Toast Museum
Dec 3, 2005

30% Iron Chef


WienerDog posted:

Which is stupid if I want to install it on a new computer. I would have to install Windows 7 first, then upgrade to 8?

If you could use this $15 key to install Win8 on a new PC with a disk it would be a great deal, but I don't think that's the case.

I have done exactly this. You just have to:
  • Open regedit
  • Go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Setup\OOBE
  • Change mediabootinstall from 1 to 0
  • Go to the command prompt, type slmgr /rearm
  • Restart.
It'll activate after that.

Toast Museum
Dec 3, 2005

30% Iron Chef


Space Gopher posted:

7 (which also wouldn't let you just do a straight clean installation with an upgrade key).

It will, actually, just not with upgrade media. Upgrade key + standard media works, as does upgrade key + upgrade media + regedit.

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Dec 3, 2005

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Space Gopher posted:

There's no such thing as "Win7 upgrade media;" that's determined by the key alone. You can get a full install with an upgrade key, but you have to jump through some hoops with a keyless install to do it.

I have (legit) installers that will reject upgrade keys without registry editing, and I have installers that won't. I had assumed the former were what was distributed with upgrade keys, but maybe it's something else that makes the difference.

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