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Nate Silver did a thing on the distribution of fans across different sporting leagues. http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/the-distribution-of-fandom-in-pro-leagues/ I find some of it flawed when thinking about the premier league but it does make a good point that there is no middle class in football.
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Fists Up posted:Nate Silver did a thing on the distribution of fans across different sporting leagues. That was more pointless stat wankery and the busting out of the gini coefficient just took the piss. loving hell, that article.
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No you see Google searches are like a sports team's currency, furthermore
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St Evan Echoes posted:No you see Google searches are like a sports team's currency, furthermore \ 
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Nate Silver, 2010 posted:Did you know that labour are hosed and future elections will be between the tories and lib-dems? Is Ritchie King the climate change denier?
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Why are they using Google and not Twitter? Someone give me a PhD in stats and a six figure job please
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Strawman posted:Is Ritchie King the climate change denier? He is. He's also a real twat in real life. I was at a conference that had him and Richard Littlejohn on the same panel, and I swear the smugness that came off the two was overpowering.
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BeIn Sports (aka Qatar Sports Investments) is on a global crusade to own all of the football: http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/apr/03/psg-world-cup-football-tv-rights-qatarquote:The trajectory blazed by PSG since the club was bought in April 2011 by Qatar Sports Investments, an arm of the $115bn Qatar Investment Authority that has stakes in a global portfolio that stretches from Credit Suisse to the owner of Heathrow airport, is even steeper than those other grand projects at Stamford Bridge and Manchester City's Etihad Stadium. 
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greazeball posted:BeIn Sports (aka Qatar Sports Investments) is on a global crusade to own all of the football: http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/apr/03/psg-world-cup-football-tv-rights-qatar to be fair if they go via the NBC model I'm not going to complain also gently caress Murdoch he represents everything wrong with modern media
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quote:the establishment player that believed the brash newcomer was being run at an uncompetitive loss. The BeIn Sports channels massively undercut the existing player but it insists it has long‑term ambitions to become profitable – the rhetoric is not unlike that surrounding PSG. Ah yes the Wal-Mart strategy of undercutting all the local competition then raising prices when you have a monopoly.
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Peanut President posted:Ah yes the Wal-Mart strategy of undercutting all the local competition then raising prices when you have a monopoly. At the end, Fox Soccer Channel was so bereft of programming that they didn't even get a sign-off; Fox just decided that 6:00 a.m. on their last day programming would change from whatever it was they had left to reruns of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia (the channel was being changed into FXX).
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Other than the announcers, which are a problem on any American football show, beIn has some quality coverage. I just wish they'd straighten out their online rights and do the thing that NBC does with the Prem streaming wise because that is really fantastic. e: It was annouying as poo poo for the half season or so that I didn't have the loving channel though.
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I wish BeIn would improve their coverage of the non-Spanish leagues, but I suppose that's to be expected. At least La Liga is actually really fun to watch this year.
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 Season ticket boycott is on http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26995469 quote:Dave King: Rangers board have acted in bad faith Rather than give your club the money for your season ticket you should pay it into a fund controlled by someone just convicted of fraud, who will give it to the club when they give him security over the stadium. The club will still agree to let you in to games because ........ It's impossible for a listed company to give security over their main asset to some random malcontent  If the fans take this up in any great numbers it will almost certainly lead to admin 2 - rangers 3 quote:Rangers' recent finances
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Fag Boy Jim posted:I wish BeIn would improve their coverage of the non-Spanish leagues, but I suppose that's to be expected. At least La Liga is actually really fun to watch this year. The Serie A coverage isn't terrible, just pray that RM or Barcelona aren't playing in anything remotely important at the same time as the Serie A games. I mean it's not great but it's better than nothing, and it's in HD.
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I say this every time Rangers are mentioned, but it's never not incredible that they are going bankrupt again while getting 50,000 attendances and only having to beat literal amateur and semi-pro teams. It's one thing going bankrupt competing to get into Europe, it's another to go bankrupt against teams for who the criteria for getting a game is "has two legs and is willing to live in Brechin".
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FullLeatherJacket posted:I say this every time Rangers are mentioned, but it's never not incredible that they are going bankrupt again while getting 50,000 attendances and only having to beat literal amateur and semi-pro teams. When you're being run by actual gangsters and people whose idea of a good business plan is "repeat the 'for every fiver Celtic spend, we will spend ten' model that got Oldco Rangers bankrupt in the first place", it's not that hard to imagine.
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Troy Queef posted:When you're being run by actual gangsters and people whose idea of a good business plan is "repeat the 'for every fiver Celtic spend, we will spend ten' model that got Oldco Rangers bankrupt in the first place", it's not that hard to imagine.
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I'm a newbie to finances of football, but I've seen Rangers mentioned a lot in here, both an English side and a Scottish one (I think). It feels like both have been loving up mightily, but how hosed are each compared to a normal side?
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Great White Hope posted:I'm a newbie to finances of football, but I've seen Rangers mentioned a lot in here, both an English side and a Scottish one (I think). It feels like both have been loving up mightily, but how hosed are each compared to a normal side? Queens Park Rangers are an English side and they're more hosed than most premier league teams. Rangers are a Scottish side and they're probably in the worst financial shape of any team in the world.
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Great White Hope posted:I'm a newbie to finances of football, but I've seen Rangers mentioned a lot in here, both an English side and a Scottish one (I think). It feels like both have been loving up mightily, but how hosed are each compared to a normal side? Glasgow Rangers are run by crooks and have at least the second highest outgoings of any team in Scotland despite being in their third tier. They are properly hosed.
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Just for added confusion there is also a Scottish team called Queens Park but I don't know anything about their financial situation
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Blue Screen Error posted:Just for added confusion there is also a Scottish team called Queens Park but I don't know anything about their financial situation
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Great White Hope posted:I'm a newbie to finances of football, but I've seen Rangers mentioned a lot in here, both an English side and a Scottish one (I think). It feels like both have been loving up mightily, but how hosed are each compared to a normal side? The original Glasgow Rangers went completely bust due to crazy overspend and were liquidated. The v2 version started again in the bottom division and have amazingly been worse run than the original and have a 99% wages to turnover ratio to win a part time league with literal plumbers and postmen as the opposition.
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So ESPN has a headline saying UEFA was going to value PSG's at half of what it was signed on. I'll believe it when I see it. http://www.espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1802680/uefa-halves-value-paris-saint-germain-sponsorship-deal-qatar-tourism-authority?cc=5901
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Akileese posted:So ESPN has a headline saying UEFA was going to value PSG's at half of what it was signed on.
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tetsuo posted:Still more than I expected given the original story about "settlements" for Man City and PSG. I figured it would only be direct monetary penalties, effectively transparent bribery. No, that's still where we are. This article is just saying that PSG won't get credited with all the income from their endorsement deal when they're calculating FFP.
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This is brilliant. It turns out FFP is actually a clever scheme to get really rich clubs to pay a bunch of money to UEFA. Fair play indeed.
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blue footed boobie posted:No, that's still where we are. This article is just saying that PSG won't get credited with all the income from their endorsement deal when they're calculating FFP. edit: I mean, yeah it's still pretty sketchy and not at all a great "punishment", and won't be until things like competition bans go into effect.
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Agree with FFP or not, it's all kind of irrelevant, the first time a club gets a 'ban' in a few years, they'll be a huge court case and it'll all fall apart.
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City will have to pay a £50m fine to UEFA for breaking FFP rules and they will only be able to register 21 players for the CL next season instead of the usual 25 man squad. http://news.sky.com/story/1256043/man-city-fined-50m-for-breaking-finance-rules
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The fine is meaningless to city, and the squad limit fairly pointless. But what does "the team will have to freeze their Champions League spending." mean, do we think.
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FFP is a great scheme to line the pockets of all the UEFA executives
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They have to include 8 home grown in that 21, plus It'll have a wage cap and the fine is spread over 3 years so I suspect will be included in their ffp spending going forward. City could have been disbanded and people would still piss and moan about FFP.
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Loving Africa Chaps posted:They have to include 8 home grown in that 21, plus It'll have a wage cap and the fine is spread over 3 years so I suspect will be included in their ffp spending going forward.
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euroboy posted:City will have to pay a £50m fine to UEFA for breaking FFP rules and they will only be able to register 21 players for the CL next season instead of the usual 25 man squad. I love how FFP has just turned into blatant racketeering by UEFA.
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It's a massive penalty if it stands. Massive enough that City are surely going to drag it into a real court. How are Real and Barca avoiding falling foul of any of this stuff?
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peanut- posted:It's a massive penalty if it stands. Massive enough that City are surely going to drag it into a real court. Legitimate revenue?
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peanut- posted:It's a massive penalty if it stands. Massive enough that City are surely going to drag it into a real court. Something about Rossell and FIFA delagate's children's bank accounts.
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peanut- posted:It's a massive penalty if it stands. Massive enough that City are surely going to drag it into a real court. 
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