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Pissflaps posted:winning things is so 2005 we've moved on from that I'm so out of touch with the contemporary football fan  Is scoring goals still good?
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| # ? Sep 26, 2010 22:48 |
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It's better to score one beautiful goal and lose than score three crappy goals and win.
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| # ? Sep 26, 2010 22:50 |
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Pissflaps posted:It's better to score one beautiful goal and lose than score three crappy goals and win.
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| # ? Sep 26, 2010 22:54 |
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Lot 49 posted:I'm so out of touch with the contemporary football fan scoring goals is the best thing! conceding goals don't matter at all so long as you score lots! it's better to draw 4-4 in a Sky Sports Classic that will enrich 'THe Premiership Years 2010/11' on SS3 Thursday afternoons forever than it is to win 1-0 with a smash and grab playing 'direct' football with... ugh... a tall striker up front and.. I can barely bring myself to type this... Players That Go In Strongly For 50/50 Challenges. Sorry. gently caress.
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| # ? Sep 26, 2010 23:01 |
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can't believe the childish responses from people who only read the first line of my post. 10, 15, 20 years from now when one or all 3 of Man U/Liverpool/Chelsea are floating in midtable mediocrity at best or have done a Leeds/Portsmouth at worse and Arsenal is still at the top and is the only club without a billionaire sugar daddy that has money to spend it'll be because of Wenger.
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| # ? Sep 26, 2010 23:10 |
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You're delusional
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| # ? Sep 26, 2010 23:16 |
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2057 AD. Detective John Spartan wakes up to find that he has been frozen in time and thawed out for a purpose. Several decades ago, all football was abolished and replaced by a new sport: Wengerball. There are no winners and losers in Wengerball, only enjoyment of the artform. A pitch the size of Luxembourg will no touchline. Passing triangles as far as the eye can see. Michelin Star standard Corporate facilities. A playing surface so smooth you could iron a shirt on it. Crabcakes with sweet chilli dip. Another child masters the backheel volley. Those who practice the barbaric form of football are driven underground to wallow in their own filth. Individuals lie screaming in agony, shinbones snapped like twigs. On every corner stands a man with bloody elbows. "He's not that sort of player" spraypainted on every broken wall. A new threat comes to the city. "Big Sam has been defrosted". Something's not right? Mastery of the 4-4-2? Expert in "hoofing it"? Big Sam has broken into the museum and unleashed a new Crazy Gang to cause mayhem on the streets. Big Kev Davies. Chris Samba. JOHN FASHANU...???! A fat Jonathan Wilson in a toga cries as Sam stands on his Inverted Pyramid, breaking it into a million pieces. The detective out of his own time speaks out to the media. Instantly...A message? Paper from the wall: "John Spartan, you are fined one credit for bringing the game into disrepute". How can Wengerball's only saviour stand in the way of Big Sam's underground rebellion when Spartan doesn't even know how to use The Three CBs?
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| # ? Sep 26, 2010 23:16 |
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EC10 posted:can't believe the childish responses from people who only read the first line of my post. 10, 15, 20 years from now when one or all 3 of Man U/Liverpool/Chelsea are floating in midtable mediocrity at best or have done a Leeds/Portsmouth at worse and Arsenal is still at the top and is the only club without a billionaire sugar daddy that has money to spend it'll be because of Wenger. truly, no club has gone from successful to midtable mediocrity over the space of a decade before, and neither have they bounced back from this. It's just as well winning things isn't important or there'd be a lot of Big Club Tears in this future. anyway, the reason Arsenal 'is' still at the top in your slightly implausible future is because of Usmanov's cash being used for turning young orphans into textbooks for the arsenal academy, so the next generation of beautiful glass sculptures can read the 'theory' behind becoming a world-class 'false nine'.
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| # ? Sep 26, 2010 23:16 |
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Arsenal is an incredibly successful team. Top 4 for 13 consecutive seasons, champions 3 times. It's a great record. People should remember that in the entire history of Arsenal there has never been a period where we have been as consistently high in the league as we are now, it's unprecedented for us. Back in the mid 90's we finished 11th, it's not so far back... Anyone who says Arsenal fans should be unhappy with our position in club football is a retard who doesn't understand football.
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| # ? Sep 26, 2010 23:17 |
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Russ posted:2057 AD. Detective John Spartan wakes up to find that he has been frozen in time and thawed out for a purpose. Several decades ago, all football was abolished and replaced by a new sport: Wengerball. There are no winners and losers in Wengerball, only enjoyment of the artform. A pitch the size of Luxembourg will no touchline. Passing triangles as far as the eye can see. Michelin Star standard Corporate facilities. A playing surface so smooth you could iron a shirt on it. Crabcakes with sweet chilli dip. Another child masters the backheel volley. Those who practice the barbaric form of football are driven underground to wallow in their own filth. Individuals lie screaming in agony, shinbones snapped like twigs. On every corner stands a man with bloody elbows. "He's not that sort of player" spraypainted on every broken wall. give him a love interest and have her be called 'Blyth'. Yeah, you *get* the reference 
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| # ? Sep 26, 2010 23:18 |
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Flayer posted:Arsenal is an incredibly successful team. Top 4 for 13 consecutive seasons, champions 3 times. It's a great record. People should remember that in the entire history of Arsenal there has never been a period where we have been as consistently high in the league as we are now, it's unprecedented for us. Back in the mid 90's we finished 11th, it's not so far back... 2057 AD. A new dystopian Earth where everyone refers to clubs in the form 'Arsenal is' 'Chelsea is'. The Americans have won. But one man may yet hold the solution to football's resurrection. His granddad sussed how things were going decades before and started work on an underground vault. He's raised his kids to play the old fashioned way, to smash taboos and bring back the tackle, outlawed in 2019 and replaced with a shot clock. He longs for a day when nicknames weren't outlawed - were in fact an official extension of a franchises' identity. Brap5 is here, he means business, and for Jack Warner, preserved on his golden throne at the heart of the FIFA empire, Wedesnday January 19 2057 has begun very poorly
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| # ? Sep 26, 2010 23:24 |
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Iggy Pop Barker posted:give him a love interest and have her be called 'Blyth'. Yeah, you *get* the reference loving genius
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| # ? Sep 26, 2010 23:27 |
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Imagine four clubs on the edge of a cliff. Say a direct copy of the ball nearest the cliff falls on hard times, does a Leeds/Portsmouth and takes the place of the first ball. The formerly first club becomes the second, the second becomes the third, and the fourth falls off the cliff into the championship. Arsenal works the same way.
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| # ? Sep 26, 2010 23:29 |
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Arsenal fans being smug about their ownership is even funnier because of how close Usmanov is to buying the club
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| # ? Sep 26, 2010 23:30 |
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2057 AD. One year to the World Cup. England's new team gets ready to lay down some beats and getchya body moving. Patriotic tunes pumping out of every jamhole in the groove district. You can't spell Xenophobic without "hip". Brooklyn Beckham Jnr steps up to the mic and prepares to spit the real. You've got to hold and give, You've got to hold and give, You've got to hold and give, You've got to hold and give, You've got to hold and give, The track skipping? Hell no. Don't be frontin' with MC Wenger in the production booth.
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| # ? Sep 26, 2010 23:32 |
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Jose posted:Arsenal fans being smug about their ownership is even funnier because of how close Usmanov is to buying the club the most hostile reaction i have ever had to my posts on SA or probably the internet was when I implied - possibly before the Usmanov thing - that David Dein was actually an amoral stinkyhole, albeit a very competent one. They pulled some dodgy poo poo to skip some steps in obtaining permission to build the Big Airline Ground and Dein is crucial to both the good and bad that the Premier League has brought to English football and also the meteoric rise of the superagent.
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| # ? Sep 26, 2010 23:33 |
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You're all just jealous because Arsenal is a classy, phenomenally successful club that isn't the toy thing of some foreign billionaire(s). Your teeth are showing.
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| # ? Sep 26, 2010 23:33 |
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Russ posted:2057 AD. One year to the World Cup. England's new team gets ready to lay down some beats and getchya body moving. Patriotic tunes pumping out of every jamhole in the groove district. You can't spell Xenophobic without "hip". Brooklyn Beckham Jnr steps up to the mic and prepares to spit the real. ugh. no 'real music'? truly this is a dystopian future. Let's ditch this synthetic nonsense and bring back World Cup songs by bands who can play live. Marcus Was Right, and his 2011 ban from the USMNT by order of Comrade Obama himself was both unconstitutional and took some perfectly harmless remarks out of context.
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| # ? Sep 26, 2010 23:35 |
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It seems more that just EC10 is a delusional Arsenal fan
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| # ? Sep 26, 2010 23:35 |
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Flayer posted:You're all just jealous because Arsenal is a classy, phenomenally successful club that isn't the toy thing of some foreign billionaire(s). Your teeth are showing. poo poo. I, a Plymouth Argyle fan, have been bested.
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| # ? Sep 26, 2010 23:36 |
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Iggy Pop Barker posted:poo poo. I, a Plymouth Argyle fan, have been bested.
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| # ? Sep 26, 2010 23:42 |
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Charlie Bucket's golden ticket made him a very lucky boy indeed! Access to The Emirates Football Factory, every child's dream. Here is where they make the beautiful, sickly sweet football that Charlie dreamed of seeing for himself one day (the poor Bucket family relied on low quality Chinese streams for their once-weekly football treat). Charlie entered the factory and gasped at the beautiful football on display. Such sweet touches! Oh, how the players caress the ball effortlessly! Charlie wished he could live on this football for the rest of his life. He never wanted to see another trophy again as long as he lived! Professor Willy Wenga himself welcomed Charlie to the inner workings of the factory. Here, Charlie was introduced to a small group of French midgets who worked behind the scenes producing the wonderful football that children all over the world craved. A very naughty boy called Harry tried to take one of the French midgets for himself. Wenga stared a hole through the cheeky cockney, who tried to defend himself. "He's a very talented young lad, and I'd love to 'ave 'im, but he's yours, and until the situation changes I'm not interested". The Professor punished the boy's greedyness by destroying his Nintendo. "Will the little French people sing for us?", asked Charlie, with a look of hope in his eyes. "My friend, zat ees impossible" laughed Wenga. "Here at ze Emirates, we do not believe in zinging...eet ees a...'ow you say...distraction?". Charlie knew then and there he would never sing in a football stadium ever again. "Wait until you get a load of my next room", cried Wenga, opening a door marked "Goalkeeper's Training Area". "I hope you're prepared to laugh..."
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| # ? Sep 26, 2010 23:44 |
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Flayer posted:Yeah, you have. It doesn't matter what team you support but when you claim that Arsenal, one of the best teams in the entire world, simply plays to "avoid disaster" then you're a clueless moron. Arsenal is a great team with world class players who play to win every match and just because we have not managed to win one of the toughest competitions there is for a few years it does not make us unsuccessful. We're still up there and we are still fighting, and we are doing it the way we know how. no I said that one fan (in this thread) (who I think i was quoting in my posts) was implying that it was pretty drat good to stay where you are, within your means, and make a healthy profit - despite them being frequent winners a few years back on a similar (real terms) budget. I also compared it to the rhetoric of bad lower league chairmen but you wouldn't know about that because they're not on Sky
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2025. Ben Richards, down on his luck, arrives at the Games Federation. He hates the way sport has gone, with players hoovered up and spat out at the wasteland of young hope that is Chelsea Aviva FOotball And Sporting Club. No matter whether you're up front in their successful grav-soccer franchise or taking part in one of the more comedy daytime sideshows, like Women's Basketball or Rugby Union, you'll be a cripple at best by the end of your first season - always discarded unwanted. Legends tell of a Terry John, who cracked the starting lineup and stayed there for nearly 15 years - but the crowd back then had laser pens, not laser guns, and the false nine wasn't a dummy rigged with explosives. With a sense of crushing inevitability Ben strolls through auditions for the gimmick shows, and as he moves into the more demanding athletic events he always just makes the cut. Now those skills he learned playing illegally in the undercity as a youth serve him well, and in a haze he finds himself holding a Chelsea Aviva FC contract. Left winger, he'll be the first target for the steel-lined forearms of the opposing defence. But he forces a smile, thinking of his beloved sick with Pulis' disease. [50 chapters later] Bruce Megabuck smiles for the first time in a week. His new star had gone AWOL and taken to sending the local tv station video messages invoking the spirit of Real True Football, which he'd worked to kill off 20 years previously. He was starting to win support from the brainwashed masses, when his fatal misstep came about. "training is not necessary". Now they'd hate him, revile his unprofessional attitude - see him as a brat. No fan would defend that unless it was in a legend of the past. And yet these audience appreciation figures.... [50 chapters more] Ben figured he had 20 seconds now before impact. As the plane hurtled towards the Ken Bates Memorial Corporate Boxes he sat back from the controls. Decked out in a symbolic Chelsea FC kit from 2010, he turned his back towards the windscreen, knowing the cameras would capture the homage that had reawakened the Real True Fans and allowed him to stay underground so long. As screams lit up the Abramovic stand, the last thing Sky TV ever broadcast was a grainy but visible epitaph. ANELKA 39. Were they miced up they'd have heard Nicolas' catchphrase mumbled over and over, a final prayer to the football gods. "big money. big prizes. i love it"
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| # ? Sep 27, 2010 00:08 |
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no, my point was that the "but, but, trophies!!1111" crowd are idiots and that Arsenal have been managed way better than other teams who have been winning things over the last few years, such as Liverpool, Inter and Man U, and as a result will be more successful in the future instead of being in 500m - 1 billion of crippling debt. but keep it up with the hilarious posts, they're way funnier than your usual "agreed, [person mentioned in previous post] out"
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| # ? Sep 27, 2010 00:11 |
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Professor Arsene Wenger believes he knows how to score the perfect goal. He wants to prove his theory. But the sinister Ryan Shawqross wants him dead!
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| # ? Sep 27, 2010 00:12 |
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Liverpool and Man Utd haven't won those things by getting themselves into crippling debt though
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| # ? Sep 27, 2010 00:12 |
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EC10 posted:no, my point was that the "but, but, trophies!!1111" crowd are idiots and that Arsenal have been managed way better than other teams who have been winning things over the last few years, such as Liverpool, Inter and Man U, and as a result will be more successful in the future instead of being in 500m - 1 billion of crippling debt. agreed, Iggy Pop Barker out
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| # ? Sep 27, 2010 00:12 |
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Jose posted:Liverpool and Man Utd haven't won those things by getting themselves into crippling debt though
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| # ? Sep 27, 2010 00:26 |
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I don't think that was his point.
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| # ? Sep 27, 2010 00:27 |
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s0meb0dy0 posted:Man U's isn't crippling yet, but it is huge. Liverpool's obviously is, seeing as how they'll be VERY fortunate to make top 6. Neither was as a result of them spending stupid money on players though. They're just in a league where there are actual results for spending vastly more than you can afford. They also manage to pay their players too.
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| # ? Sep 27, 2010 00:28 |
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you won't be laughing when Arsenal acquire Lionel Messi in exchange for Aaron Ramsey, Nacer Barazite and their 2013 1st and 2nd round picks. What good are trophies if you haven't got cap space? Answer me that, Sir Alex?
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ICA posted:I don't think that was his point. EDIT: Just looked at Man U's transfer history, and you're right, it's pretty lovely. Then how are they so far in debt? The huge wages? That's no different. s0meb0dy0 fucked around with this message at Sep 27, 2010 around 00:34 |
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Russ posted:Charlie Bucket's golden ticket made him a very lucky boy indeed! Access to The Emirates Football Factory, every child's dream. Here is where they make the beautiful, sickly sweet football that Charlie dreamed of seeing for himself one day (the poor Bucket family relied on low quality Chinese streams for their once-weekly football treat). dear god So if Leeds ever return to the prem and break an arsenal player with a Leeds Challenge will Arsene be angrier than usual or just sort of resigned because it was inevitable the sex ghost fucked around with this message at Sep 27, 2010 around 00:44 |
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also those Highbury apartments are never going to get sold for the price they are at the moment, or at least not anytime soon
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s0meb0dy0 posted:The only other thing he could have meant is that buying masses of players didn't help them win titles, which is simply ridiculous. Although I'll grant you that Liverpool hasn't won the EPL in many years. You really are that stupid. Leveraged buyouts by yank cunts.
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| # ? Sep 27, 2010 01:01 |
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Russ posted:Charlie Bucket's golden ticket made him a very lucky boy indeed! Access to The Emirates Football Factory, every child's dream. Here is where they make the beautiful, sickly sweet football that Charlie dreamed of seeing for himself one day (the poor Bucket family relied on low quality Chinese streams for their once-weekly football treat). You know this is getting hella off-topic and just straight up trolling instead of discussing finances, but then again this post was magnificent. If you think your board is perfect, reminder to Arsenal that your board forced David Dein out of the club in their greed to make a fat profit off of redeveloping Highbury into a set of overpriced condo's, the same David Dein that at the time was trying to bring Kroenke into take over the club but ended up selling to usmanov when the board went behind his back over it. David Dein also leaving happens to coincide with Arsenals trophy drought, so while the club is doing a marvellous PR exercise in trying to encourage all your supporters that "Fiscal" responsibility and the "matchday" experience is what makes Arsenal great, they are only in it till they've reaped the maximum financial potential they can from the club. Behind closed doors they are bickering and bitter towards each other and the only thing that's kept them from selling already cause of how much they hate each other is signed contracts vowing not to sell until they've got every last ounce of profit they could out of the highbury sale, think Hicks/Gilette but instead you have 4-5 different inbred family dynasties all squabbling instead trying to get the biggest price possible for their shares when the highbury sales are over. So yah, your board is worse than a bunch of Americans in terms of screwing success in order to line their own pockets and it could be another 3-4 years before they get back to where they were football wise back in the days of the invincibles, except you'll have wasted Wengers best years and Fabregas will have hosed off by then. Well Done Arsenal and everyone who laps up your boards "respect" and "vision" for the club, as soon as those last apartments are gone, Bracewell and the rest will sell to usmanov or Kroenke, whoever offers the best price and will gently caress off to the bermuda isles laughing all the way to the bank at how they wasted some of the best managerial and playing talent of the decade in order to make some real estate money. Outrespective fucked around with this message at Sep 27, 2010 around 01:13 |
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Outrespective posted:
an appropriate downfall
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Outrespective posted:You know this is getting hella off-topic and just straight up trolling instead of discussing finances, but then again this post was magnificent. Out of all the funny posts itt this is by far the most amusing.
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I made the 'Wengerball beautiful triangle passing' joke ages ago. Someone needs to make Shut up & Jam: Gaiden game but with post apocalyptic football.
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