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Even as a United fan I don't want to see Liverpool cease to exist due to financial reasons. Not that it'll happen of course, but I don't understand why people would want rival clubs to implode for reasons off the pitch. I'd like to see Steven Gerrard score ninety own goals with his left knee and then get red carded for diving, but there's not much joy to be had from lovely owners loving up a club, even if they are your rivals.
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# ¿ Feb 19, 2010 09:19 |
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# ¿ Apr 24, 2024 06:04 |
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It's not strictly Redknapp to be fair. If the financial backing hadn't been so awful, there might have been possibilities for the future. Imagine if the Arabs suddenly left City. You wouldn't blame Hughes for buying all those expensive players when the club went belly-up. Although I do realize Redknapp is a self-serving oval office who signed players on ridiculous contracts. Just saying that if they'd had solid backing, it DID bring in solid results (an FA cup) compared to the costs. City are spending ten times as much and winning nothing so far.
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# ¿ Feb 25, 2010 20:58 |
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So basically we agree that there are two issues: -Redknapp spent too much on wages -The financial backers were shady scum Either of these on their own wouldn't be so bad, but combined they led to financial ruin. Had it only been one of them though, we'd be praising Pompy for breaking the monopoly on the FA cup through smart signings and fighting spirit and all that poo poo and discussing whether they could break into the top 6/7 spots next season.
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# ¿ Feb 25, 2010 21:03 |
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DickEmery posted:Key will be persuading the Glazers to sell BUT IF WE WAVE GREEN AND GOLD SCARVES IN THEM FACES THEYLL HAFTA SELL INNIT
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# ¿ Mar 2, 2010 13:47 |
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Dudley posted:Champions League group tickets are half the price they were then, so yes, actually they are, admittedly only after the Rosenberg embarrassment but still it's more than a lot of clubs have done (Blackburn was trying to get £40 for a Carling cup match last I looked). In fairness I should mention Arsenal for this, who were offering very decently priced tickets for the Carling cup match I saw there, even if their organisation (which involved allocating about 5 minutes for 20,000 people to pick up tickets from the box office and then not delaying the match when it didn't work) was hilarious. Rosenborg
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# ¿ Mar 5, 2010 13:27 |
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holybartender posted:Why has it been so difficult for him to get a passport? More importantly, why is it so important to him?
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# ¿ May 9, 2010 09:31 |
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I don't understand why Arsenal pay their players at all if they don't win things. Let's say Robin van Persie is on 100k/week. Drop him to 0 and tell him he'll get a quid for every goal he scores. To match his old salary he'll have to bang in a hundred thousand goals every weekend. Once he starts doing that, I can't see how Arsenal could do anything but win the league and the CL. I don't understand how a professional apartment company like Arsenal haven't thought of this
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# ¿ Sep 25, 2010 08:40 |
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Lot 49 posted:The PIKs are the Glazers personal debt, not the debt they dumped on United. They have probably just taken out another loan. The debt payments on this debt will have been coming straight out of Uniteds pockets anyway, so it is a load off. There's speculation that a lot of the cash used to pay off the debt has come from United as well, but I'd still rather we have no transfer budget the next couple windows but fewer long-term debt issues than spend the 80m from the Ronaldo sale and then do a Leeds.
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# ¿ Nov 16, 2010 10:03 |
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Well to be fair, the fact that it was leveraged doesn't strictly speak against him. The 591254 other points where he's being a retard do though. In bizarro world where he has an actual case, he'd be owed the difference between the market value of the club and whatever value it's sold for against his will. The debt on the club is a separate issue.
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# ¿ Feb 14, 2011 22:38 |
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The really funny sideeffect of the market value vs actual sale price dilemma happens when you're dealing with prices from both before and after the economic crisis hit. I was at a trial a couple months ago where an old lady was swindled into selling her house for £400k even though it was appraised at £520k. She backed out of the deal after signing a contract, at which point the buyer sued her. Originally he sued her for the rights to buy the house at £400k still, but the lawsuit went past the point of the crisis, at which point he changed her claim to the £120k in cash he claimed he could have made by flipping the house instantly. I don't really blame him, as the house had fallen to £330k in market value at that point.
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# ¿ Feb 14, 2011 22:43 |
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Lord Harris of Peckham walks into a bar
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# ¿ Apr 11, 2011 10:30 |
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Mickolution posted:Falls through it, surely? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IBgk05iL3Y sorry, yes
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# ¿ Apr 11, 2011 10:39 |
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MrL_JaKiri posted:I'm not a professional footballer but could be called up by england if they wanted to. err I'm pretty sure you couldn't seeing as you're a registered rower. I, on the other hand, could play for England, as I don't row. I'm not English but you get my point surely
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# ¿ Apr 23, 2011 17:34 |
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Mickolution posted:Not sure if that's still the rule. I think the team are just given x amount of medals to hand out, or maybe it's players who've played a certain amount and a few extras. If I remember right, that's how Larson got one for United. As I recall it, clubs are given one for everyone on 10 games or more (sub appearances of 1 minute included) and they can then apply for special dispensation for further medals for players they believe have aided in the campaign but not played 10 games, which is what United did for Larsson.
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# ¿ Jun 22, 2011 09:39 |
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peanut- posted:No reason for City to support it - they have all the money they want anyway, and ending collective bargaining would just serve to make their immediate rivals richer and more able to compete. They'd be allowed to spend more money in spite of FFP though, so they'd stand to gain from it. I'm glad United are saying no, it's a disgusting suggestion.
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# ¿ Oct 12, 2011 16:14 |
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Based on the last bolded bit though, EU are going to loving destroy the FCR. No way is that kosher with what the EU are doing elsewhere.
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# ¿ Dec 17, 2011 20:56 |
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Duggimon is right though, if it was changed to include foreign clubs, the EU could care less about the rest. That one point though is so severely against european treaties that I'm pretty sure I could win that case in the european courts myself.. E: NOT GOING TO, THOUGH, DON'T WORRY
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# ¿ Dec 17, 2011 21:35 |
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Jose posted:People realise that just because Redknapp can't spell and his writing is poo poo doesn't mean he can't read right? My handwriting is illegible to almost anyone else and I know loads of people who can't spell for poo poo Yes but Finn has given like 10 of us here on TRP access to edit your posts into legible English after you post them, otherwise noone would ever read, let alone reply to, your posts. You can't tell Finn I told you this though. It's part of the secret Geordie Outreach program.
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# ¿ Jan 27, 2012 14:32 |
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When was the last time Rangers was out of Scotlands top division?
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# ¿ Mar 2, 2012 22:53 |
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willkill4food posted:The truth is that a £100k a week player at Arsenal is probably a £150k a week player elsewhere. Not that I in any way agree with or care about the article as a whole but that discrepancy is clearly covered within the manager variable mentioned in the quote.
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# ¿ Jul 12, 2012 07:44 |
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Someone post that photoshop Liverpool fans did when the deal was announced where the logo said Standards Ruined, tia
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# ¿ Aug 7, 2012 19:22 |
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TyChan posted:It was "Standards Corrupted" and it was intended as a protest statement against Hicks and Gillett. Close enough eh
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# ¿ Aug 7, 2012 21:09 |
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trem_two posted:The NBC Sports tv rights deal was confirmed: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/richard_deitsch/10/28/nbc-confirms-epl-deal/index.html Am I the only one who thinks this sounds rather weird: trem_two posted:Lazarus said the remaining 180 games (EPL clubs play games that do not count toward league standings) I mean.. I can only assume they're talking about FA/League cup games because anythign else would be just entirely daft, but then neither cup is mentioned anywhere in that release at all.
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# ¿ Oct 29, 2012 12:13 |
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Bea Nanner posted:Also, does it not matter if the game is sold out? I hate to bring up the NFL, but here the game is only blacked out if there are remaining tickets. That seems a bit more reasonable. The NFL doesn't have lower leagues that needs the attendance too, which is the key reason for the blackouts.
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# ¿ Oct 29, 2012 19:58 |
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Change format entirely: Every weekend, at 8 in the morning on saturday, The Game starts. Two randomly drawn teams from the English League du Soleil commence playing eachother at Wembley. Every hour, two new teams take their place. Keep rotating this until monday morning at 8. 72 hours of non stop football! There's 20 teams in the league so each team would have to play every 9 hours, leaving plenty of time for sleep. And since The Game would be on all the time, there'd be no reason to choose between Asia and the Americas. The Game is for everyone!
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# ¿ Oct 30, 2012 08:41 |
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St Evan Echoes posted:This but winner stays on poo poo, yes.
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# ¿ Oct 30, 2012 09:21 |
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Guesstimate Crohns posted:the fa ring up your accountant and call him bad names They'll have to be careful what they call Chelsea or they'll have a complaint on their hand
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# ¿ Nov 15, 2012 23:46 |
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That puts him right about 180k/week if I'm reading it correctly, seems fairly close to those FM estimates. E: Carlos Tevez - £180,000 Yaya Toure - £180,000 David Sliva - £160,000 Samir Nasri - £140,000 Edin Dzeko - £120,000 Vincent Kompany - £120,000 Kolo Toure - £120,000 Sergio Aguero - £120,000 Javi Garcia - £110,000 Maicon - £110,000 Mario Balotelli - £100,000 Joleon Lescott - £94,000 Gael Clichy - £90,000 James Milner - £85,000 Gareth Barry - £80,000 Joe Hart - £80,000 Matija Nastasic - £75,000 Pablo Zabaleta - £70,000 Aleksandar Kolarov - £65,000 Micah Richards - £60,000 Jack Rodwell - £55,000 Scott Sinclair - £55,000 Costel Pantilimon - £20,000 John Guidetti - £10,000
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# ¿ Nov 18, 2012 23:47 |
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Chelsea saying they made £28 mil profit on their transfers seems perfectly reasonable. Now excuse me while I drive my flying car to the moon for a milkshake.
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# ¿ Nov 20, 2012 19:08 |
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willkill4food posted:They had £28m in player sales, not net. That includes Matic, Jack Cork, Zhirkov, Mancienne, Gokhan Tore, Rajkovic, Alex and Anelka. Then perhaps they should stop learning the meaning of words from Bitcoin people because the club literally used the word 'profit'.
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# ¿ Nov 21, 2012 11:46 |
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Didion posted:£100 million, which players are you guys talking of to reach that sum? I'm sorry but if you're arguing on the side of Chelsea being fiscally prudent, the burden of proof rests firmly on your shoulders. Tell me in a thousand words or less how they're anywhere NEAR a "profit" of 1 pound on transfers let alone 28 million. E: Clarification The Mash fucked around with this message at 13:14 on Nov 23, 2012 |
# ¿ Nov 23, 2012 13:12 |
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The Perfect Element posted:They were talking about David Moyes being 'the best paid Premier League manager' on Talksport yesterday. I guess that's not true then? The only way that would be true would be Wage As A Percentage Of Transfer Budget
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# ¿ Nov 30, 2012 11:26 |
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The best ever Brøndby moment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLJnd1kJRss Grouped with Bayern, Barca and United in the 98-99 CL, they managed to mega-fluke a win in their first game vs Bayern, courtesy of this brilliant Allan Ravn goal, while United and Barca drew in the other game. As a result, Brøndby were top of the group after the first round and all the Danish papers went mental with hype over how far Brøndby would go. It all came crashing down of course and Brøndby got utterly stuffed in the other five games. Bonus info: Brøndby was the only team in that group NOT represented in the final as it was played at Camp Nou between Bayern and United.
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# ¿ Feb 1, 2013 03:50 |
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FullLeatherJacket posted:If he sticks around for another 15 years? How long does it take for a burned bridge to rebuild itself? There's talks now of Mourinho returning and I reckon in another couple of years, he could just do the full Grant/Scolari/Hiddink/AVB/RDM/Benitez cycle again too
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# ¿ Feb 11, 2013 11:01 |
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Lot 49 posted:You missed out Ancelotti. oh for fucks sake It's like a revolving door isn't it
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# ¿ Feb 11, 2013 12:48 |
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Allyn posted:Portsmouth are officially out of administration, hooray! The mutilated corpse of football twitches!
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# ¿ Apr 21, 2013 00:35 |
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Hegav posted:Ok think I found the explanation for the tax credit. They registered their holding company in the Cayman Islands when they listed on NYSE. Here's their corporate structure football is dead.png
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# ¿ May 10, 2013 23:39 |
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vyelkin posted:Say you pay 100M in taxes one year, and then calculation the next year shows you really only should have paid 40M, This happens to me all the time to be fair
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# ¿ May 12, 2013 08:30 |
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Honest question, how much of the commercial revenue is from sponsorships related to Citys owners? That's always been the obvious way of getting around FFP rules and the article doesn't mention that aspect at all. Matchday and broadcasting revenue going up is definitely a good thing for City either way, at least as far as meeting FFP goes.
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# ¿ Jun 13, 2013 11:40 |
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# ¿ Apr 24, 2024 06:04 |
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Also, there's very little skill distinction when it comes to nurses. The Lionel Messi of diaper changing, spongebaths and IVs isn't going to be attractive enough to other hospitals to warrant offering outrageous salaries in order to poach him or her.
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