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after reading this thread and the epl debt report, i kicked back with some coffee, read this and had a good laugh.FC Bayern Munich posted:
What they dont tell you is that Bayern indeed has debts around 220m €. the interests are 19m € per year plus the costs for repaying the debts, ca. 30m € per year. Bayern planned to be debt-free in 2020, but with the new money coming in from audi (90m € in 3 payments till 2011), they will achieve their goal in 2016. Sorry folks, but that is how it's done.
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# ¿ Jan 5, 2010 09:41 |
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 09:23 |
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Oceanbound posted:They've been dumping players this window to cut down the wage bill, so it's unlikely that will happen. thats right, with the exception of the articles theory of franck ribery being sold to lower the wages being complete and utter bullshit. they said that players need to be paid accordingly to their performance, so top players like ribery surely could get a raise if they sign a new contract. and IF ribery wants to stay at munich, they will pay whatever he wants them to. bayern doesnt have to sell their silverware to pay wages
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# ¿ Jan 5, 2010 11:31 |
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Jose posted:When was the last time Bayern won meaningful silverwear? 2001
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# ¿ Jan 5, 2010 11:39 |
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Scikar posted:And then some oval office will buy you out with loans secured against the club and start the process all over again! nope. 50+1 Rule posted:All Bundesliga clubs are organised as eingetragener Verein (eV), which is similar to a Non-Profit Organisation (NPO) in Britain or a Non-Profit Corporation (NPC) in the US – to give you some orientation.In 1999 the DFL (German Football League) acknowledged the growing economic relevance of football and the legal/tax issues coming with it.
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# ¿ Jan 5, 2010 19:24 |
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dailystar.co.uk posted:TROUBLED Portsmouth last night put their whole squad up for sale. Source
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# ¿ Jan 7, 2010 11:11 |
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got my new bayern munich season ticket, 120,- € in the stands
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# ¿ Jul 7, 2010 16:18 |
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Barudak posted:Well I looked into it to make sure. 600 out of 50,000 seats were affected. They put tv monitors in the area and dropped the price from 12 to 5 USD. On the other hand the stadium cost 1.5 Billion USD so its not exactly like the 600 seats saved them a ton money. hahahaha 1.5 billion for 50.000 seats what a retarded sum of money thats even more idiotic than wembley
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2010 12:52 |
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seriously i looked up that stadium and everything and i just don't see the money are the seats made of silk and platinum or what? just for a comparison, the allianz arena (69.000 pax) did cost 341 million euros.
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2010 12:58 |
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FCB posts profit for 18th year in a row 30.11.2010 The 2009-10 season was a runaway success on the field of play as Bayern claimed the double and reached the Champions League final, and the equivalent fiscal year was equally spectacular for the Munich giants. In the reporting year from 1 July 2009 to 30 June 2010, Germany’s biggest football club cracked the €300 million turnover barrier for the first time, while operating at a profit for the 18th successive year. “Our sporting success has ensured we’ve yet again made a profit. FC Bayern is ideally placed to face the future with equity capital at 65.1 percent, or €206.4 million. It means our club is and remains financially independent and unaffected by market fluctuations,” Finance Director Karl Hopfner told 2,807 club members gathered at the Olympic Hall in Munich for Tuesday evening’s Annual General Meeting. FC Bayern München AG posted turnover of €312.0 million, up by almost 16 percent on 2008-9 (€268.7 million). Profit after tax rose some 20 percent to €2.9 million (2008-9: €2.5 million). Operating profit (Ebitda) rose to €61.2 million (2008-9: €45.0 million). FC Bayern München AG boasts equity capital totalling €206.4 million (€2008-9: 177.5 million). A similarly positive trend applied to the figures presented for the FC Bayern München AG group (consolidated accounts for FC Bayern München AG and Allianz Arena München Stadion GmbH). The profit after tax was the same as for FC Bayern München AG at €2.9 million (2008-9 €2.5 million), on turnover of €350.2 million (2008-9: €303.8 million). Operating profit (Ebitda) was €86.5 million (2008-9: €65.5 million). All the 2009-10 figures represent new records.
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# ¿ Nov 30, 2010 22:36 |
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The Top 20 Deloitte Football Money League clubs: http://bit.ly/f3VAYg quote:All of this year’s top 20 clubs are from the ‘big five’ European leagues with England contributing seven, Germany and Italy four clubs each, Spain three clubs and France two. quote:Whilst Spanish clubs claim the top two positions in the Money League, England retains the largest representation from any single country, with seven clubs. Manchester United, Arsenal and Chelsea all retained their previous years’ positions of third, fifth and sixth, respectively. Liverpool slipped one place to eighth.
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# ¿ Feb 10, 2011 13:57 |
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this is a fantastic insight into manchester citys finances http://swissramble.blogspot.com/2010/10/how-manchester-city-could-break-even.html
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# ¿ Feb 10, 2011 15:18 |
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Just FYI: German second division football club TSV 1860 Munich is in desperate need of almost 9 million Euros until Friday or they'll face bankrupcy and relegation to the fourth (!!!) league. On the weekend there was a huge demo in Munich with around 100.000 participants. That was the one against nuclear power. A total of 150 fans of 1860 meanwhile stood on Munichs Marienplatz in dire desparation. The atmosphere supposedly was very aggravated and in the following night the FC Bayern HQ was vandalised with blue paint, being 1860s colour. Why would they attack Bayern now? Because they offered to "The Lions" from insolvency (again) by loaning them the money they need at a 4% interest rate (2% to the bank, 2% to Bayern). 1860 still ows Bayern around ? 2mio in rent for the Allianz Arena. 1860s president Schäfer was called a traitor on several banners while meeting with fans on the weekend because he talked to Bayern about the loan offer. In the end the deal was called off. The fans seem to agree that the death of their club is inevitable and somehow a good thing, a chance to start anew. They will be especially ecstatic about the prospect of not playing in the Allianz Arena anymore, since the contracts are only binding down to the third league. They will most probably play in the Grünwalder Stadion again if they get relegated, together with Bayern Munich II who will most probably get relegated to the fourth league as well (they suck poo poo). So there will be still a derby in Munich Well let's wait and see what the next five days bring, perhaps they somehow manage to postpone the inevitable again for a few months...
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2011 11:32 |
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Taff posted:Good news, I do indeed. Heres a small portion of the horrors that awaited me when I came to work that day Some men just want to watch the world burn.
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2011 16:00 |
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I am still very grateful for the introduction of the 50+1 rule in Germany.
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# ¿ Apr 12, 2011 17:24 |
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FC Bayern München AG group (consolidated accounts for FC Bayern München AG and Allianz Arena München Stadion GmbH) posted turnover of €328.5 million , down on the previous year (2009-10: €350.2 million), but still “the second-highest turnover figure we have ever been able to report,“ Hopfner observed. Operating profit (Ebitda) was €62.3 million (2009-10: €86.5 million), with profit after tax standing at €1.3 million (2009-10: €2.9 million). FC Bayern München AG, the joint stock company responsible for the club’s professional football operations, achieved similar results. Turnover of €290.9 million was some seven percent down on the previous year (2009-10: €312.0 million). The profit after tax was the same as for the group at €1.3 million (2009-10: €2.9 million). Operating profit (Ebitda) was €42.3 million (2009-10: €61.2 million). FC Bayern München AG boasts equity capital totalling €268.3 million (2009-10: €206.4 million). Record membership figure “I’m justified in describing the financial side of our club as exemplary,” commented chairman Karl-Heinz Rummenigge, expressing great satisfaction with the company’s business performance in the last fiscal year. Hopfner noted that FCB is “in excellent commercial shape” for the future, and declared himself “confident“ of another positive financial performance next year, provided the team performs successfully on the field of play. FC Bayern München e.V., the members’ club and ultimate parent of the professional football company, is also in rude good health, as senior vive-president Dr. Fritz Scherer reported. The club, which owns 81.8 percent of the joint stock AG, made a surplus of €900,000 in the last fiscal year, and boasts accumulated reserves of €52.5 million. “Commercially speaking, we’re a very healthy club,” commented Scherer. Club president Uli Hoeneß also announced further new records, as club membership has risen to 171,445 (up from 162,187 last year) with a total of 2,950 officially affiliated fan clubs (2009-10: 2,764) boasting 204,322 members (2009-10: 192,160). “These are unbelievable numbers, and we’re very proud of them,” the President said.
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# ¿ Nov 20, 2011 17:17 |
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the sex ghost posted:didn't dortmund use their champions league money to float themselves on the stock exchange a while back and it all went horribly wrong? or am I thinking of someone else Yeah, but their 'downfall' was mostly based on spending too much on new players and a stadium expansion, then missing the CL spots and in consequence the originally budgeted earnings.
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# ¿ Jul 4, 2012 10:25 |
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FC Bayern said on Wednesday they have sold every single ticket for the upcoming Bundesliga season 12/13 in their 69,000-capacity Allianz Arena, including almost 40,000 season tickets, and expected total attendance for the home league games to exceed 1.1 million fans. http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/bayerns-season-already-sell-103558981.html Bayern are also looking forward to at least 20m more in cash per year once their stadium has been paid off by 2020.
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# ¿ Jul 11, 2012 18:52 |
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Tal Ben Haim has agreed to leave Pompey - a deal that takes the club another step closer towards securing its future. Club administrator Trevor Birch announced that the former Chelsea man had now accepted a pay-off and Birch also revealed that Liam Lawrence’s future could soon be finalised. http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/pompey/pompey-past/ben-haim-agrees-to-leave-pompey-1-4142893 Now they only have three players left in their first team. http://www.portsmouthfc.co.uk/squad/first-team.aspx
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# ¿ Aug 9, 2012 15:44 |
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Now would you look at that
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# ¿ Sep 5, 2012 10:12 |
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TheGoatFeeder posted:So I know its London prices etc, but this is pretty mad: £13.80 for Fish & Chips
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# ¿ Nov 14, 2012 00:42 |
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Ninpo posted:Lol loving hell and I thought the Glazers were cunts. Reminder that the highest price at the Allianz Arena for the best regular seats at a Champions League match is €70. A place in the stands is €15.
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# ¿ Nov 14, 2012 08:50 |
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julian assflange posted:Anyone know how much corporate/private boxes are? (anywhere, just curious) Allianz Arena : The contract has to be signed for at least five years and each year a box costs between €90.000 and €240.000, depending on size (8-60 pax) and positioning.
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# ¿ Nov 14, 2012 21:55 |
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F C Bayern München AG group (consolidated accounts for FC Bayern München AG and Allianz Arena München Stadion GmbH) posted turnover of €373.4 million, significantly up compared to the previous year (€328.5 million) and comfortably “the biggest turnover we have ever reported,” said Hopfner. The operating profit (Ebitda) was €86.0 million, also considerably greater than last year (2010-11: €62.3 million), as was the profit after tax at €11.1 million (2010-11: €1.3 million). FC Bayern München AG, the joint stock company responsible for the club’s professional football operations, achieved similar results. Turnover was up just short of 14 percent at €332.2 million (2010-11: €290.9 million). The profit after tax was the same as for the group at €11.1 million (2010-11: €1.3 million). “This means we can pay a record dividend to our shareholders of €5.5 million,” Hopfner announced. Operating profit (Ebitda) was €69.3 million (2010-11: €42.3 million). FC Bayern München AG boasts equity capital totalling €278.3 million (2010-11: €268.3 million), “almost certainly a unique sum in world football,” commented Hopfner in the light of a capital ratio of 77.5 percent. “All’s very well indeed with the world of FC Bayern at the moment. The club is in rude good health,” chairman Karl-Heinz Rummenigge said earlier in the week prior to the announcement of the outstanding financial results. “Nowadays, FC Bayern boasts solid financial foundations like never before in the 112-year history of the club,” added Hopfner. FC Bayern München e.V., the members’ club and ultimate parent of the professional football company, is also in an extremely strong position, as senior vice-president Dr. Fritz Scherer reported. The club, which owns 81.8 percent of the joint stock AG, made a surplus of €1.6 million (2010/11: €900,000), and has amassed accumulated reserves of €54.23 million (2010/11: €52.5 million). “Commercially speaking, we are absoluely healthy and capable. We can be extremely satisfied,” commented Scherer. Club president Uli Hoeneß also announced further new records, as club membership has risen to 187,865 (up from 171,445 last year) with a total of 3,202 officially affiliated fan clubs (2010-11: 2,950) boasting 231,197 members (2010-11: 204,322). “These are unbelievable numbers, and we’re very proud of them,” the president said.
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# ¿ Nov 16, 2012 09:28 |
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Byolante posted:Does that disgusting profit go directly into buying players or is it split among shareholders? I think that most of it will be used to pay back the credit taken for the Allianz Arena, so that soon most of it will be available for buying all the players.
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# ¿ Nov 16, 2012 11:05 |
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Byolante posted:Between the new English tv deal and that it will be interesting to see if football changes dramatically. Things that are dead usually don't change.
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# ¿ Nov 16, 2012 11:40 |
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Lot 49 posted:€59.9m (£47.3m). Bayern made €60m from last years CL run so I guess Chelsea should have made a bit more. Not that they deserved it or anything.
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# ¿ Nov 20, 2012 18:57 |
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julian assflange posted:Old Trafford's pitch is in bits, how much does a new pitch cost these days? Few hundred k? A new lawn at the Allianz Arena (105*68m) costs €110.000.
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# ¿ Jan 27, 2013 22:57 |
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Tortuga posted:You would think the Ricoh arean people would do what they could to keep Coventry there. What else are they going to do with a football stadium in Coventry? Burn it down, then cash in on the insurance.
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# ¿ Mar 24, 2013 13:03 |
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Football is dead.
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# ¿ May 21, 2013 22:13 |
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FCB now is the most valuable brand in world football. "With a brand valuation of US $860 million (€669 million), Champions League winners Bayern Munich have overtaken Manchester United ($837 million) as the most valuable brand in world football. The Premier League champions were top of last year's list but have now swapped places with the Bundesliga giants. Real Madrid ($621 million) and Barcelona ($572 million) are third and fourth in the new ranking." http://www.fcbayern.telekom.de/en/news/news/2013/42822.php
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# ¿ May 29, 2013 17:00 |
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Pissflaps posted:What a load of crap. You are a resentful man, Pissflaps.
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# ¿ May 30, 2013 23:03 |
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Oh boy
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# ¿ Jul 19, 2013 09:24 |
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Scott Bakula posted:A new report on manager salaries has been published in Brazil. Its no wonder why Guardiola chose Bayern and Allardyce/Redknapp are getting paid huge amounts Guardialo would have earned the same or more at Chelsea/City/etc.
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# ¿ Dec 20, 2013 01:09 |
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pissy smelliott posted:327k euros a week It's gross.
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# ¿ Dec 20, 2013 01:17 |
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I like how nobody mentions Lippi makeing a shitload of soccerbux for managing a team of literal amateurs. And Moyes making more than Klopp lol.
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# ¿ Dec 20, 2013 01:34 |
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oh em gee bee ess posted:Seriously, what the hell is with Italy and not going to games? Do ultras really run off everyone? I heard a story that the san siro women's toilets are basically a de facto second men's toilet as so few women go to the games. Old stadiums that have been worn down, bad teams that play football in a bad league, owners like Berlusconi that alienate the fans, hooligans, lots of racism, high ticket prices and the economic recession....
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# ¿ Jan 23, 2014 17:41 |
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Aston Villa post £51.8m loss in latest financial accountsquote:The accounts for the year ending May 31, 2013 show that Villa have reduced their operating losses by £9.5 million to £42.6 million.
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# ¿ Mar 1, 2014 11:33 |
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Jesus tittyfucking Christ.
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# ¿ Mar 6, 2014 13:48 |
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# ¿ Mar 6, 2014 16:11 |
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 09:23 |
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Look in the BuLi thread.
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