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gibsonisacripple posted:Site seems to be working ok and there's an ad for http://www.pfcfinancialservices.co.uk/creditcards/ Only the Glazer family, how else do you think they were able to buy Man Utd
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Iggy Pop Barker posted:you all seem to be astonishingly generous towards Redknapp's role in the financial ruin of every club he's ever managed. I'll try and keep this not too TL:DR because you'd all be better off reading the relevant sections of Broken Dreams by Tom Bower Are you Tom Bower because youve pretty much made me want to buy that book now.
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DickEmery posted:I'm always surprised nobody has bought them, 20-40 million would probably get you the lot and they've been close to the play-offs for a couple of years living off scraps. Ive always thought if Cardiff went up they'd be able to sustain it for a good few years, especially as theres no other football team anywhere near
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Mar 10, 2010 17:51
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Bhyo posted:They sell those Newton heath scarves in the club shop. I got one with that weeks game embroidered on it. They sell them in HMV in the Trafford Centre. Not even a joke.
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Mar 22, 2010 22:20
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Im pretty sure Bhyos joking.
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Mar 23, 2010 10:04
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ayb posted:Dunno if this was a joke or not but they most definitely do NOT sell anything green or gold in the shop. I was there this past weekend and got a scarf from a guy outside the store I drove past it a few times this week, there were at least 5-10 people selling scarves outside the ground, even when theres no games on.
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Mar 23, 2010 17:15
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http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/european/united-say-they-will-meet-new-uefa-spending-criteria-1983730.htmlquote:Manchester United insist they will pass Uefa's new "financial fair play" test, which is set to become part of European football's rules today. I havent looked a great deal into the new Financial fair play system though its obviously going to start getting more and more press over the next 12 months, does anyone have an idiots guide to it?
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May 27, 2010 10:46
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Ive looked up a bit bon it to find more The Guardian says quote:Uefa will also seek to prevent owners bypassing the rules by means such as sponsorship. All deals will be market-tested for fair value, a move that might be noted at City, who this week announced a deal with the Abu Dhabi Tourism Authority. Which would mean the suggestion of just getting owners to put money in through sponsorship wouldnt work. In a seperate article they also said quote:In 2008-09, the most recent year for which the Premier League's 20 clubs' accounts are published, 14 made substantial losses. One other, Blackburn Rovers, made a £3.6m profit but were subsidised with a £5m loan from the club's owners, which will no longer be permitted. But dont state which 14 clubs, but mention that Fulham, Villa, Sunderland and Liverpool all had big investment from their owners which wouldnt be covered in the financial fair play scheme. Heres a link to the Uefa sites financial fair play scheme on their website http://www.uefa.com/uefa/footballfirst/protectingthegame/financialfairplay/index.html
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May 27, 2010 11:22
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Dudley posted:Haha, so the FA are somehow going to rule on what they think an "Acceptable" commercial deal is? No, Uefa. And its measures in place to stop clubs circumventing the rules in order to make sure we dont have any more clubs overspending and driving themselves into financial hardships if they dont get the success on the pitch, its hardly the worse thing ever.
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May 27, 2010 11:32
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Just got an email from "Manchester United" entitled "Season Tickets & One United Membership 2010 / 2011". Thought I'd check it out to see how much One United would cost next year. Its from the Love United Hate Glazer group, theyve registered https://www.manuttd.com and are using it to send fake emails to put people off renewing their memberships. Comes off as a bit desperate, they are appealing not only for people not to renew, but not sign up, or upgrade to a season ticket if they havent got one. Theyve stopped talking so much about the Red Knights too, only one mention that they are the fans prefered buyers. Word on the streets is that theres not going to be a bid, and if there is it'll only be to save face and they dont expect it to be accepted. Also this pic 
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Jun 1, 2010 20:02
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partipo posted:Last I heard the Red Knights were backing down after seeing a closer look at United's books. Why would they have access to Uniteds books? Mickolution posted:What's desperate about that? Wasn't that the plan all along? The tone of the email seems desperate, I get the impression from the email that the campaign isnt working and this seems a desperate attempt to grab some more attention.
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Jun 1, 2010 20:50
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Shocking developments!quote:The Red Knights group of wealthy supporters mulling a takeover of Manchester United has shelved plans to make a bid for the club. Apparently they will make a bid at a later date when the price is right.
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FullLeatherJacket posted:To be honest, though, I don't know where Taff is getting his e-mails from, because I've had three e-mails from MUST recently, two of which were discussing the status of the Red Knights project, and one was flogging Green & Gold scarves. Nothing about renewals whatsoever. And manuttd.com doesn't redirect anywhere, as far as I can tell. I can post the emails if you dont believe me? Maybe its because when I signed up I put that I go to games and have been or are a one united member. When I signed up to the MUST campaign I also did one of those "send an email to your local counciller" things they were plugging at the time, which sent an email to all local candidates about bringing in measures for football teams. I sent this to see what I would get, and I got an email reply from Hazel Blears asking for my address. Saturday I recieved a letter from her, all about the investment the council had made in the regions local football teams, which was nothing to do with my letter about ownership of teams
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Jun 7, 2010 09:30
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Stim posted:For anybody who didn't watch Panorama almost everything was covered in the reports that came out over the past two weeks. Apparently the Glazers own £1.1bn in debt and almost everything they own seems unprofitable. I'd like to see their sources in detail first though.
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Jun 9, 2010 00:53
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Jollzwhin posted:Of course United only have Ferguson to blame for the entire mess, he let the Glazers in after all and has backed them to the hilt. Yeah, he should definately come out and publically criticise the people that pay his wages in a job he really enjoys that would result in him being sacked throwing the club into further turmoil and him living out the rest of his days bored shitless.
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Jun 9, 2010 11:15
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Jollzwhin posted:So instead he's a pawn of the regime, backing up their financial stupidity. Can you imagine the trouble the Glazers would be in if Ferguson had stood up to them? But I was also referring to the fact that he had a pathetic little fight with JP McManus resulting in him buggering off and bringing in the Glazers. The trouble in what way? Ferguson would be out of a job instantly. I understand your second part, but the Glazers already had 30% of the club at this point and were always looking to take over. While the Rock of Gibralter situation made it happen quicker, it was innevitable I believe.
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Jollzwhin posted:He's been bought off. It happens, but for a man who claims to be a socialist it's a bit hypocritical. So in his position you would have done what?
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Jun 9, 2010 14:46
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Jollzwhin posted:I'd like to say I would resign but I can't really tell unless I was in the same position. I mean I (currently) work for an American company so clearly my morals are a little loose anyway. Maybe if he was younger, he would have. But this is his final job in football, and its his team, his legacy. Whatever is happening behind the scenes its still going to be difficult for him to walk away. His argument over the horse didnt help, but John Magnier and J. P. McManus were never invested in football for the long term and were there partly because of their friendship with Ferguson and partly because of the opportunity to make some money. The Glazers were buying into the club from 2003, gradually increasing their stake till they were at 28% before they purchased from the Irish which took them over the 30% limit where they had to launch a takeover bid. They had actually started investigating a possible takeover of the club since early 2004. Dont forget when the fallout happened between them the Irish also started trying to force Ferguson out of the job, they refused to authorise anything other than a 12 month contract for him, and tried to start investigations into all the clubs transfer dealings since Fergie joined, until he agreed to drop his claim and accepted a payment from them.
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Mickolution posted:
Surely a 12 month contract leaves more speculation he's going to leave? He was asking for a 2 year deal and the Irish blocked it.
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A few weeks ago a list that was supposed to be the exec members list for Man Utd was printed on some website. Apparently it was to gain attention for these members to reconsider renewing until the Red Knights make a bid. I come into work this morning and the front of our building has been plastered with Love United Hate Glazer stickers. At least 20 of them. What a bunch of idiots, they have the full address listings there but rather than send a letter out to the company about it, they decide the best thing to do is paste stickers on the outside of the building. If anyone knows of the website where this is being organised please let me know so I can call them cunts.
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Jun 11, 2010 10:02
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Bacon of the Sea posted:Diego Maradona owes €40m debt now. He owed €36m in Jan. From being famous.
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I mentioned this at the time, but the company I work for had their name on the list. Load of United fans decided it was a great idea to plaster the front of our building with "Love United Hate Glazer" stickers. Removing them ended up damaging our sign as the paint got pulled off. My boss ended up kicking off with United over the data leak, and we put a sign in the window saying that we supported the campaign and had reduced the amount of tickets we bought.
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Mar 26, 2011 22:27
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Lyric Proof Vest posted:lol that's nearly as bad as all the fans you see wearing this years shirt with green and gold scarves Well it was a difficult one, as we were using them to take corporate clients to matches. The amount of seats we had taken had been reduced already, and we wont be renewing them at the end of this season. It just seems silly that the fans decided the best idea for the data leak was to vandalise properties .
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Mar 28, 2011 11:45
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BunnyX posted:Is the sign ok though? It must have been a waking nightmare seeing stickers on things. The stickers pulled paint off it and we had to have it touched up. All is well now.
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BunnyX posted:My dad almost died trying to get some stickers off a sign once so this is a subject very close to my heart. Do you have photos of the damage? Good news, I do indeed. Heres a small portion of the horrors that awaited me when I came to work that day 
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Mar 28, 2011 15:01
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Jollzwhin posted:We can't. Remember we have one of the largest stadiums and it's generally 95% or more filled so we get significantly more matchday revenue than Everton or even Liverpool. Pretty empty for cup matches tho?
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Mar 29, 2011 13:44
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ragle posted:Why would it shock you for a player to take home more than 180k week? because getting paid 180k a week and taking home 180k a week are two different things?
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Apr 23, 2011 21:37
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Reports say the Glazers are looking at floating the club on the Hong Kong Stock Exhange valuing the club at 1.7 billion
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Jun 13, 2011 09:51
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DHL arranged for a free scarf for every united fan at the match tonight
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Aug 22, 2011 21:09
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Der Shovel posted:I realize there's been a lot of restructuring and refinancing, but the actual net debt United have has gone down VERY little in the seven years those loving lawn ornaments have been in power. Could be some really rocky times ahead as United's squad needs more and more replacements and there's less and less money to go around. Its gone up hasnt it? From what I read earlier this is positive for the club as it will mean a guarenteed income of 100 million dollars (this is underwritten by Barclays) but could be as much as 500 million dollars
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Most local fans I know whove stopped going have used the Glazers + money being tight + the football not being as exciting as their big issues.
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Probably http://andersred.blogspot.co.uk/
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Just one of the perils of being The Biggest Club In England
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Pissflaps posted:It stopped years ago. I hope so, its helped my team become the best.
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quote:Sportswear giant Adidas has signed a £750m deal to make Manchester United's kit for 10 years from next season. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-28282444 Jesus christ, someone at Adidas is getting sacked right?
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Total Meatlove posted:A single owner with business experience and who can legally own the club? I'd let him play undertaker up front Why would you play Taker up front? I dont think he'd make my wrestling XI. Phwoar I'm imagining Dolph Ziggler going up the wing and crossing for John Cena to head into the net Do it Vince. Make my wrestling football dream a reality.
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This is the finance thread and I wasnt allowed to make a thread comparing wrestlers to footballers so I dont think this talk should continue
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TheGoatFeeder posted:When will the BBC realise that average season ticket price is a much more useful comparison than cheapest. City being listed lowest is because of there being a very small amount of disabled spaces at a really low price isnt it?
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Oct 15, 2014 11:57
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TheGoatFeeder posted:FWIW it's worth, I pay about £550 for my ticket this season and I think that's probably around the average for City. I pay £703  I'm very happy with my seat tbf.
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ephex posted:227 Handicapped spaces for 5€ entrance fee at the Allianz Arena and you can bring one more person in. Who do you take in with you? hahaha tbp
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