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Hoppin Tin posted:It would be unfair to compare the ps3 version with the ps2 version. Quite. It would also miss the point, which is to compare PCSX2’s emulation to the PS3’s emulation.
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| # ? Dec 31, 2010 22:02 |
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I imagine that he meant the re-release of God of War on the PS3 which as I recall was improved a bit graphically.
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| # ? Dec 31, 2010 22:20 |
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supervipping posted:I imagine that he meant the re-release of God of War on the PS3 which as I recall was improved a bit graphically.
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| # ? Dec 31, 2010 22:23 |
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I was so excited since I finally got this to work but the games run like poo poo on my PC
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| # ? Dec 31, 2010 22:33 |
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Too Poetic posted:Right, which again completely misses the point. It was a comparison of the original GoW emulated on pc vs ps3. Comparing it to the new version that they added better textures to and poo poo doesnt really showcase anything at all. Exactly.
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| # ? Dec 31, 2010 23:06 |
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Too Poetic posted:Right, which again completely misses the point. It was a comparison of the original GoW emulated on pc vs ps3. Comparing it to the new version that they added better textures to and poo poo doesnt really showcase anything at all. Honestly, that PCSX2 screenshot looks just as good as the PS3 remake, except the PCSX2 shot is higher rez (the PS3 remake is only 720p).
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| # ? Dec 31, 2010 23:13 |
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Mug posted:Honestly, that PCSX2 screenshot looks just as good as the PS3 remake, except the PCSX2 shot is higher rez (the PS3 remake is only 720p). The PCSX2 screenshot is in 720p.
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| # ? Dec 31, 2010 23:16 |
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bbcisdabomb posted:The PCSX2 screenshot is in 720p. Really? I'm an idiot.
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| # ? Jan 1, 2011 00:30 |
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Still the point stands. You can upscale it to 1080p with the click of a button in pcsx2.
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| # ? Jan 1, 2011 00:40 |
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Has anyone tried Fatal Frame 2? The list says it works but it crashes on the loading screen every time I try to start a new game. 1 and 3 work perfectly but 2 is the best
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| # ? Jan 1, 2011 04:08 |
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Industrial posted:Has anyone tried Fatal Frame 2? The list says it works but it crashes on the loading screen every time I try to start a new game. 1 and 3 work perfectly but 2 is the best Played it quite extensively a while ago (until my video card exploded and i had to finish the game on a real PS2), so i can attest to it working. Maybe one of the more recent updates broke it. Try the latest stable/beta release instead of the SVN releases Gyoru compiles for us in this thread. It's been quite a while (more than half a year) since i played it on PCSX2.
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| # ? Jan 1, 2011 04:22 |
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Ditto on 2 working fine for me some builds ago. 3 was also working for how much I played it. 1 last time I tried still had the camera aiming bug.
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| # ? Jan 1, 2011 04:23 |
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For the game this thing was mostly tested on FFX has a lot more glitches than say KH2, half of the battles in the game my middle character was standing backwards, and when he would go to attack he would run around the character on the right and and attack the dude. and the whole final battle was fought with Jecht facing away from me like he was Jim Morrison or something. Not a huge deal thought just kind of took away from the game since it was my first time playing it.
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| # ? Jan 1, 2011 04:43 |
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Is it possible to spend no more than $1000 on a new laptop and be able to get decent performance with PS2 emulation? If so, does anyone have any recommendations on what to look for? The PS2 games that I'd like to be able to play well are mostly JRPGs (FF, Persona, DW, etc.)
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| # ? Jan 2, 2011 12:21 |
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Diovanti posted:Is it possible to spend no more than $1000 on a new laptop and be able to get decent performance with PS2 emulation? If so, does anyone have any recommendations on what to look for? The PS2 games that I'd like to be able to play well are mostly JRPGs (FF, Persona, DW, etc.) I just picked this beast up -- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...N82E16834220827 I haven't tried PS2 emulation yet, but I am sure it'll be fine.
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| # ? Jan 2, 2011 16:06 |
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Ragequit posted:I just picked this beast up -- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...N82E16834220827 I don't know, the quad core isn't going to help and 1.73ghz is a pretty low speed. I have a dual core i3 laptop @ 2.13ghz and 2D games are fine, but 3D games get slow in certain areas (persona 3, kingdom hearts 2, etc). Still playable though.
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| # ? Jan 2, 2011 16:11 |
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Zo posted:I don't know, the quad core isn't going to help and 1.73ghz is a pretty low speed. I have a dual core i3 laptop @ 2.13ghz and 2D games are fine, but 3D games get slow in certain areas (persona 3, kingdom hearts 2, etc). Still playable though. i7s (and some i5s) have a dynamic clocking technology which underclocks some cores and overclocks others when only a few are being stressed. It is literally the best of both worlds. The speed is pretty low, but should still be enough at native PS2 resolutions.
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Kiggles posted:i7s (and some i5s) have a dynamic clocking technology which underclocks some cores and overclocks others when only a few are being stressed. It is literally the best of both worlds. I know, I have a desktop that does that, but it only autooverclocks about 10% max. So a base of 1.7 is still pretty low. I mean it'll be playable, just expect some slowdowns. Resolution doesn't affect it at all really, that part's handled by the GPU and it's never the bottleneck.
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Ragequit posted:I just picked this beast up -- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...N82E16834220827 I've got the G73JH, which is essentially the same computer with a better GPU. It won't run PCSX2 very well. 2D stuff is going to be okay, but don't get your hopes up for perfect 3D emulation.
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| # ? Jan 2, 2011 16:54 |
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Zo posted:I know, I have a desktop that does that, but it only autooverclocks about 10% max. So a base of 1.7 is still pretty low. The i7 740Q overclocks to 2.93 GHz. It does it instantly too (I can watch with the monitoring widget). The thing is rarely ever at 1.7 GHz. It screams. I'll test out some emulation shortly and see how it goes.
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Ragequit posted:The i7 740Q overclocks to 2.93 GHz. It does it instantly too (I can watch with the monitoring widget). The thing is rarely ever at 1.7 GHz. It screams. I'll test out some emulation shortly and see how it goes. Really? That's pretty crazy. It'll be more than enough then. On a game note, FFXII on 1080p really looks way too good for a PS2 game.
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| # ? Jan 2, 2011 17:02 |
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From my experience you need around 3ghz on a single core to get good speed on 3d games. Having Intel over AMD gives you a boost but mostly the emulator seems to use raw power and I've read about people overclocking from 3 to 3.2ghz and getting fairly big improvements.
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Zo posted:Really? That's pretty crazy. It'll be more than enough then. I just tested it out on Wild Arms 3 and FFXII:ZJ -- I remember Wild Arms 3 needed some custom settings, but FFXII ran fine (50-60 FPS) on the default settings. I could probably get a lot more out of it but I really suck as setting that stuff up, and I haven't done it in ages since they have overhauled the interface. However, I primarily play PC games, and haven't really jumped into the emulation scene headfirst. I just follow this thread to keep up on the latest news. My opinion may not be the bet to follow.
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| # ? Jan 2, 2011 17:23 |
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I'm running FFXII at 60+ fps at 1536 x 1536 (3.6 ghz E8400) and it looks great. Looked even better at 2048 x 2048 but then it slowed down too much, but only in the cut-scenes, not in the main game. Anyone know why? I got speed hacks disabled because it crashed (once) with them on.
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Throumbas posted:From my experience you need around 3ghz on a single core to get good speed on 3d games. Having Intel over AMD gives you a boost but mostly the emulator seems to use raw power and I've read about people overclocking from 3 to 3.2ghz and getting fairly big improvements. I've only tried Nocturne DX9 but it runs perfectly on this: http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=48496 Constant 60FPS, no dips at all.
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| # ? Jan 2, 2011 18:08 |
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...N82E16819103846 this'll do it guys i'm serious
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Diovanti posted:Is it possible to spend no more than $1000 on a new laptop and be able to get decent performance with PS2 emulation? If so, does anyone have any recommendations on what to look for? The PS2 games that I'd like to be able to play well are mostly JRPGs (FF, Persona, DW, etc.) Get Intel, not AMD. I think the emulator has a lot of code that takes advantage of intel tech and not so much with the AMD.
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redreader posted:Get Intel, not AMD. I think the emulator has a lot of code that takes advantage of intel tech and not so much with the AMD. AMD doesn't support later SSE instruction sets fully, so it's sub-optimal for PS2 emulation. But really, you shouldn't be basing your CPU purchases solely on PS2 emulation, and my Phenom II X4 works just fine with the majority of games on PCSX2. I think its large clock speed helps it out.
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:AMD doesn't support later SSE instruction sets fully, so it's sub-optimal for PS2 emulation. But really, you shouldn't be basing your CPU purchases solely on PS2 emulation, and my Phenom II X4 works just fine with the majority of games on PCSX2. I think its large clock speed helps it out. For purposes of this thread, performance in PCSX2 is all that matters for CPU recommendations.
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| # ? Jan 2, 2011 21:48 |
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I haven't used PCSX2 in about 6-9 months. Is the issue with SotC running really slowly been sorted or is it still around?
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| # ? Jan 2, 2011 22:30 |
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Ziggy Tsardust posted:I haven't used PCSX2 in about 6-9 months. Is the issue with SotC running really slowly been sorted or is it still around? That largely depends on you. This video is 10 months old already. SotC is one of the beefiest games on the PS2, naturally it's the one who'll demand some of the highest specs.
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| # ? Jan 3, 2011 00:24 |
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My core i5 750 handles everything fine with no overclocking.
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| # ? Jan 3, 2011 00:28 |
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AMD UPDATE: 3.4GHz is the magic line for Athlon II/Phenom II. That may change with Bulldozer, since that will have all of Intel's latest extensions, or it may not. (Okay, it may actually be WORSE given that the front-end and FPU are pair-shared.) Point is: if you already have an AMD chip and can get it to 3.4 you're probably fine, but if you're buying AMD for PCSX2 you're insane. Sir Unimaginative fucked around with this message at Jan 3, 2011 around 02:51 |
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I have a 3.4 Phenom II and yeah it just barely runs most stuff full speed. Hopefully they can optimise PCSX2 a little more though.
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| # ? Jan 3, 2011 02:41 |
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I've been running Okami, Warship Gunner 2, Radiata Stories, and a few others at a full 60FPS and good resolution just fine with my 3.3GHz Phenom II X4 345, (normally 3GHz, OCed 10%). Maybe I could OC it slightly higher but I'm running a stock heatsink/fan and I don't know much about about overclocking or proper cpu temperatures or anything like that, and all the games I've tried running work fine so I'm not concerned. And yeah, the emulator is only going to get better optimized from here. Any games that might run at just 90% speed will run at 100% speed a year from now. edit: Here's a question, since PAL games run at 50Hz instead of 60Hz, does that mean you need less cpu speed to emulate them, since you're emulating fewer frames? Dr. Video Games 0031 fucked around with this message at Jan 3, 2011 around 03:22 |
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Sir Unimaginative posted:AMD UPDATE: that's super funny because a phenom II X2 550 (3.1 ghz, stock) is playing god of war 2 at 720p literally right now and it costs $80
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:edit: Here's a question, since PAL games run at 50Hz instead of 60Hz, does that mean you need less cpu speed to emulate them, since you're emulating fewer frames? In my experience, it doesn't help. I think the reason is that many games are poorly/lazily ported to PAL. Ultimately, it will vary with some games running better, some the same, and some not run at all. If you decide to try it, keep in mind that you will have to change the region on your save files.
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| # ? Jan 3, 2011 07:28 |
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Dolphin is very impressive just by looking at the compatibility lists. Just about every game I have for the GameCube and the Wii right now has 4 stars or above. I brought a stack of games over from my girlfriend's place along with a wiimote to rip them to my PC for when my tools arrive this week!
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4000 Dollar Suit posted:For the game this thing was mostly tested on FFX has a lot more glitches than say KH2, half of the battles in the game my middle character was standing backwards, and when he would go to attack he would run around the character on the right and and attack the dude. and the whole final battle was fought with Jecht facing away from me like he was Jim Morrison or something. Not a huge deal thought just kind of took away from the game since it was my first time playing it. You can fix this by setting the number clamping and rounding settings to the highest precision levels. I don't have an install of pcsx available to look, but there are two sets of these settings; one under Emotion Engine and another under VPU settings. All four need to be changed. It also results in a slight performance decrease(about 1-2fps for me). (Names subject to faulty memory)
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It's a shame putting scaling at 6x brings the framerate down to an unplayable level, cause it looks so much better than with 4x (which is completely playable @ 40fps+) I've only tested out God Of War 2 though so maybe others will run better. Loving that for once I have a PC that can handle this kind of thing though.
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