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Oldstench
Jun 29, 2007

"Was there anything about the mission that hasn't gone as well as you hoped?"

"No."

HotCanadianChick posted:

I basically feel that if you can build (or are willing to pay someone to build for you) an X0X, there is no reason to own a real vintage 303. It's got more utility, the sequencer is streamlined, you can actually save/backup your patterns, and it's pretty much impossible to tell the difference in sound.

Agree 100%. Although you may lose "cool" points with the vinatge-or-die crowd, gently caress 'em. Laugh all the way to the bank. It sounds the same and is so much easier to program. AFAIK the kits aren't being sold right now, so you'll need to get a second-hand one.

Use the extra $1000-1500 you saved getting it to start a eurorack.

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Oldstench
Jun 29, 2007

"Was there anything about the mission that hasn't gone as well as you hoped?"

"No."

Limbertimbre posted:

Roland System 100 goodies

Scan and share?

Oldstench
Jun 29, 2007

"Was there anything about the mission that hasn't gone as well as you hoped?"

"No."

I was actually considering starting a modular madness megathread which answers all these questions. Euro is a great format to get into as there are just so many super creative module makers in that format. Makenoise, Malekko, TipTop Audio, etc. are all making awesome stuff right now. This isn't a slight against 5U or Serge or Frac - there are awesome, awesome things in all of those formats, I just can't afford it .

If you are interested in starting in Euro, here is a great flash app that will help you plan your synth: http://www.modularplanner.co.uk/

Also, head over to http://www.muffwiggler.com/ - they are one of the best modular synth user forum on the internet. Super nice, super helpful people. Developers hang out there so you'll get to here about new stuff coming out long before it's released.

Oldstench
Jun 29, 2007

"Was there anything about the mission that hasn't gone as well as you hoped?"

"No."

HotCanadianChick posted:

Ugh, that thing looks like such a waste. Take the nice, well-loved filter from the MS-20, and stick it in a nearly useless toy.

God I hate Roland and Korg so much these days

Seriously.

Korg business strategy if I ran things:

1) Re-release the MS-20 and Mono-Poly. No changes.
2) BAM - print money.

Roland business strategy if I ran things:
1) Re-release x0x series with updated programming capabilities.
2) BAM - print money.

Oldstench
Jun 29, 2007

"Was there anything about the mission that hasn't gone as well as you hoped?"

"No."

drat, sorry guys. I was making a joke.

Oldstench
Jun 29, 2007

"Was there anything about the mission that hasn't gone as well as you hoped?"

"No."

Yoozer posted:

Goddamn.



In action:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D26U26fFojw

Goddrat. Awesome.

I wish I could afford the entire Cwejman line.

Oldstench
Jun 29, 2007

"Was there anything about the mission that hasn't gone as well as you hoped?"

"No."

HotCanadianChick posted:

all the cool kids have eurorack these days

All the rich cool kids have Buchla 200e's also. I guess he makes bongo noises with it all night.

Oldstench
Jun 29, 2007

"Was there anything about the mission that hasn't gone as well as you hoped?"

"No."

I'm finally getting to spend some quality time with my Monomachine after having to deal with soundcard issues and work-related nonsense. What a fun little guy.

Edit: hurr i spell gud

Oldstench
Jun 29, 2007

"Was there anything about the mission that hasn't gone as well as you hoped?"

"No."

HotCanadianChick posted:

more correctly, a particular professor who was interested in the Musique Concrete movement pestered the guy he bought his theremin from into making him some kind of new electronic instrument capable of creating new sounds that hadn't been heard before. Fortunately, Bob Moog was agreeable to the idea and went to work, and the rest is history.

If there's any musical style that you should owe a real debt to for the creation of the synthesizer, it's Musique Concrete/Avant Garde/Industrial, since without all those crazy people making wacky noise, there may never have been a Minimooog.

Actually it's arguable that Buchla's instruments were designed prior to Moog's. At the very least they were contemporary to one another and completely independent designs (hence the east coast/west coast synthesis deviation).

Edit: Reaktor 5.5 is the poo poo.

Oldstench
Jun 29, 2007

"Was there anything about the mission that hasn't gone as well as you hoped?"

"No."

Trent Saburo posted:

Yes, the Maths is an AMAZING design.

Indeed, Maths loving rules. Eurorack Dual Universal Slope Generator? Yes please!

Oldstench
Jun 29, 2007

"Was there anything about the mission that hasn't gone as well as you hoped?"

"No."

archie posted:

fantastic pieces of kit. the kind of thing you can spend a year bent over and still find new things and ways of doing things every day. i love elektron it would be fair to say!

I do love this thing. Here's an unfinished ambient piece I did with it. Tones are 100% Monomachine.
http://soundcloud.com/balkan-retreat/false-dusk

Oldstench
Jun 29, 2007

"Was there anything about the mission that hasn't gone as well as you hoped?"

"No."

Wyatt posted:

Wooooo SoundCloud is sweet. I'll have to start using that. (Digging False Dusk by the way.) What software do you record with?

My main sequencer is Cubase, but that was recorded using Chainer - just recorded straight to .wav as it was a live jam.

Oldstench
Jun 29, 2007

"Was there anything about the mission that hasn't gone as well as you hoped?"

"No."

Run Dodo Run posted:

http://www.native-instruments.com/#...cer/komplete-7/

I just bought the Komplete 6 upgrade last month

Goddammit.

Oldstench
Jun 29, 2007

"Was there anything about the mission that hasn't gone as well as you hoped?"

"No."

Crosspostin' from the new gear thread cause all those guys like to talk about is their new guit-fiddles.

Yay - my Piston Honda came in today!. Can't wait to gently caress poo poo up with this!


Oldstench
Jun 29, 2007

"Was there anything about the mission that hasn't gone as well as you hoped?"

"No."

Das Butterbrot posted:

I know nothing about modular synthesizers. That is a wavetable oscillator, right?

Post a picture once it's in your modular system

Yeah - it's a loving badass wavetable oscillator. The two LCDs (which display in hex - what?) describe which wave is currently selected. Using standard synth architecture as an analogy Hither, on the left, is like the bank, and Yon, on the right, is like the program. So it's 256 waves per ROM. It comes with two ROMs by default and I got the expander daughterboard which comes with two more ROMs installed with room for 4 more. You can create a burn your own on fairly cheap EEPROMs, I just need to make the transfer board. The ROM select button on the bottom right chooses which bank is loaded. With the daughterboard installed you hold it down and then the Hither and Yon LCDs display bank letters and you can choose which bank is assigned to A & B. The ROM bank can be selected with gates. Pretty sure this can be done at audio rate. This poo poo is badass.

The wavetable index is CV controllable so you can sweep the table via LFO or envelope or whatever. The morph discontinuity knob determines the length of the smooth time. This is also cv controllable. There is a waveform discontinuity option (top left button) which out smooths out artifacts inherit in a digital wavetable.

You can also process external signals by patching the audio output of another source into the lower left jack.

As soon as my new rack comes in next week, I'll make a video (or at least audio) demo and post it here.

Oldstench
Jun 29, 2007

"Was there anything about the mission that hasn't gone as well as you hoped?"

"No."

DeathBySpoon posted:

Oldstench posted:

You can also process external signals by patching the audio output of another source into the lower left jack.

As soon as my new rack comes in next week, I'll make a video (or at least audio) demo and post it here.
Definitely looking forward to hearing this.

I haven't forgotten about this - my rack is slooooooowly making its way from China. As a bonus, in the interim I bought a Malekko/Wiard Noisering, so I'll be making a video demo of that as well.

Oldstench
Jun 29, 2007

"Was there anything about the mission that hasn't gone as well as you hoped?"

"No."

Jedrick posted:

I know next to nothing about synthesizers but I have one of these and I want to learn.

Click here for the full 903x314 image.

Any tips on getting into synthesizing?

What's you goal? Is there a sound or style you are interested in? The D-50 can make some incredible sounds. Read the manual, gently caress around with the presets and it'll start getting easier.

Ask a lot of questions.

Oldstench
Jun 29, 2007

"Was there anything about the mission that hasn't gone as well as you hoped?"

"No."

Computer Jones posted:

Oh jeez, really? How did I come up with that?
Is there some famous additive synth that I'm getting it confused with or something?

The K5000?

Oldstench
Jun 29, 2007

"Was there anything about the mission that hasn't gone as well as you hoped?"

"No."

Yay. My EcoRack came in today. Spent about 1.5 hours building it. Pretty good for the money - 9U + 1.5A PSU is only $400 (although I think I payed less - need to check Paypal).

Would definitely recommend it if you are thinking about getting into euro-crack.


Click here for the full 818x679 image.

Oldstench
Jun 29, 2007

"Was there anything about the mission that hasn't gone as well as you hoped?"

"No."

HotCanadianChick posted:

who makes it and where did you get it at? I've never heard of that before.

I've been looking at the Monorocket cases, since I need another rack for mine, since I already have more modules than room to install them right now.

http://mwmodularworld.blogspot.com/

Oldstench
Jun 29, 2007

"Was there anything about the mission that hasn't gone as well as you hoped?"

"No."

scradley posted:

Am i completely insane for wanting to build a modular system for my first hardware synth?

No. You can get a good amount of sound with very few modules nowadays, especially in the euro format as so many manufacturers are packing their new modules with lots of functionality.

There are a million ways you can sequence a modular. Expert Sleepers makes an awesome application called Silent Way. With a DC coupled interface (or an AC coupled interface and the ES-1 module), you can sequence with your DAW as well as use a MIDI keyboard to play your modular like a traditional sequencer - one channel for volt/oct tracking, others for gates and triggers for envelopes, etc.

RE: unsequenced noises and Piston Hondas, here's something I did just today with the Piston - not exactly noise.

http://soundcloud.com/balkan-retreat/i-love-my-synth-yo

Just ask questions, have a plan, and ask questions before you start buying things randomly. Also be aware there is a thriving used euro market. It is really easy to find modules you want for 70%-90% of retail and can easily sell them to somebody else if it doesn't work out and recoup your cost.

Oldstench
Jun 29, 2007

"Was there anything about the mission that hasn't gone as well as you hoped?"

"No."

Clockwork Sputnik posted:

So $400 for the empty racks and PSU, right? What's the breakdown on the modules?

Cost for each or what they are row by row?

Oldstench
Jun 29, 2007

"Was there anything about the mission that hasn't gone as well as you hoped?"

"No."

Clockwork Sputnik posted:

Sorry, I wasn't very clear. What're the modules row by row?

No problem.

Top row, left to right:

Tiptop Audio Z3000 MK2 Oscillator
The Harvestman Piston Honda
Malekko Wiard Anti-Oscillator
Malekko Wiard Envelator
(not pictured as I just got it)
Malekko Wiard Noisering

Middle row:

Doepfer A-138 Exponential (audio) Mixer
Tiptop Audio Z2040 Low pass filter
Fonitronik MH01 Attenuverting Mixer
Doepfer Mults
Doepfer A-132-3 Dual VCA

Bottom row:

(not pictured)
Expert Sleepers ES-1 Audio/CV Interface
Doepfer Mults
Doepfer A-138 Linear (CV) Mixer
Doepfer A-145 LFO
Doepfer A-156 Dual Quantizer
Make Noise Maths
Make Noise QMMG
Malekko Output

I've actually completely reorganized the rack so I can make room for a uStep and a Z8000.

Oldstench
Jun 29, 2007

"Was there anything about the mission that hasn't gone as well as you hoped?"

"No."

Well, the promised Piston Honda video isn't gonna be coming up anytime soon - too busy for that right now. Here are two audio examples of the Honda being a FSU machine as well as a very musical instrument.

These aren't songs, just little examples that I threw together tonight for those of you who are interested.

http://soundcloud.com/oldstench/sets/piston-honda-fun

Oldstench
Jun 29, 2007

"Was there anything about the mission that hasn't gone as well as you hoped?"

"No."

Made a vid mostly to test out video editing software. It's the Maths being used as an osc. It's pretty crappy quality.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyRlCb4s0xA

Oldstench
Jun 29, 2007

"Was there anything about the mission that hasn't gone as well as you hoped?"

"No."

I finally got around to making the Piston Honda demo video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NambjTF_Xk

Oldstench
Jun 29, 2007

"Was there anything about the mission that hasn't gone as well as you hoped?"

"No."

That LBB Standard is definitely the exception rather than the rule. Outside of DIY stuff, I can't think of too many manufacturers that don't at least put some symbol next to their jacks and knobs that represent their function.

Oldstench
Jun 29, 2007

"Was there anything about the mission that hasn't gone as well as you hoped?"

"No."

Yoozer posted:

pic of yet another Moog

poo poo, if I had $5000 to blow on a synth right now, I'd get an Animal/Animoo. I would let someone buy that for me though.

Oldstench
Jun 29, 2007

"Was there anything about the mission that hasn't gone as well as you hoped?"

"No."

One of the guys at Muffs is selling new ROMs for the Piston Honda expansion. I made a quick demo of all of the banks for those who are interested.

http://soundcloud.com/oldstench/bsm...-expansion-roms

I can't wait to really dig into them more. The allophones are especially cool. At a low pitch with subtle modulation it sounds like robots speaking Sumerian or something.

Oldstench
Jun 29, 2007

"Was there anything about the mission that hasn't gone as well as you hoped?"

"No."

FYI, Analogue Haven is having a 10% off sale until Sept. 29th.

Oldstench
Jun 29, 2007

"Was there anything about the mission that hasn't gone as well as you hoped?"

"No."



Cool little DIY bastard.

http://mutable-instruments.net/shruthi1

Oldstench
Jun 29, 2007

"Was there anything about the mission that hasn't gone as well as you hoped?"

"No."

renderful posted:

Oldstench, now I gotta go hide my wallet... THANKS!

I see you like sequencing without your computer. I guess, to save your wallet, I shouldn't show you this...

http://www.sequentix.com/cirklon.htm

Oldstench
Jun 29, 2007

"Was there anything about the mission that hasn't gone as well as you hoped?"

"No."

Don't think it was me. Can the SM9 do pendulum and ratchet sequencing as well?

Oldstench
Jun 29, 2007

"Was there anything about the mission that hasn't gone as well as you hoped?"

"No."

I have a QMMG - amazing filter/VCA. Each of the four channels can act as a VCA, LPF, lowpass gate, or a HPF. Channel 1 out is normaled to channel 2 in, and the ch.1 CV in is normaled to ch.2 CV in. This makes it really easy to make BPFs, bandpass gates, highpass gates, etc.

Such an awesome module. Add a Maths and you'll be pinging those vactrols like nobodies business.

RE: Buchla lust, you want a Buchla, you pretty much need to buy Buchla. If you like the cables (banana jacks) then you can also look at getting into Serge, which is loving awesome (and expensive) or Modcan A. Technically you can banana-fy pretty much any format, but it's a PITA unless you are really good at soldering/de-soldering.

Tiptop Audio makes Stackables which are banana-ish 3.5mm cables. Got a bunch and threw all my mults away the same day. I do still need some buffered mults though.

Oldstench
Jun 29, 2007

"Was there anything about the mission that hasn't gone as well as you hoped?"

"No."

Reality Is Digital posted:

Here's something I found comparing the Malekko Wiard modules to Buchla. Maybe it'll give you some ideas of modules to investigate.



Note that this is specifically an attempt to model the Music Easel, not the current Buchla panels.

Oldstench
Jun 29, 2007

"Was there anything about the mission that hasn't gone as well as you hoped?"

"No."

Yoozer posted:

Allow me to entertain you.

http://theheartcore.com/music/fm_noodle.mp3

If you've listened to it, let me know, and I'll let you know where it came from.

I'm going to guess Aalto?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9rJIilSBso

Oldstench
Jun 29, 2007

"Was there anything about the mission that hasn't gone as well as you hoped?"

"No."

Yoozer posted:





(choose preset nr. 96: "Alien", switch on the "digital synthesizer" section, move the attack and modulation sliders. Add some reverb. No circuit-bending has taken place.)

Well played.

Oldstench
Jun 29, 2007

"Was there anything about the mission that hasn't gone as well as you hoped?"

"No."

RD loving up the Moog SlimPhatty: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9z0F...player_embedded

Cool to hear non-Tangerine Dream synth demos on a Moog.

Oldstench
Jun 29, 2007

"Was there anything about the mission that hasn't gone as well as you hoped?"

"No."

Oh yeah that reminds me - my Hertz Donut came in. Made this demo for a friend. No 70s prog here:
http://soundcloud.com/oldstench/hertzdonut-in-the-hizzy

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Oldstench
Jun 29, 2007

"Was there anything about the mission that hasn't gone as well as you hoped?"

"No."

mrbradlymrmartin posted:

...and then there's Kraftwerk, Eno, and scads of other people putting 20 minutes of electronic farts on one side of each album they made.

Yeah, not so much.

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