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So, Deadpool has a 4th series starting in April. And they're also changing Cables current series into Deadpool & Cable with it's final arc, starting soon. And he already has 3 ongoing series. I figure it's about time we had a thread about him, seeing as that's more books than even Spider-Man has had since Brand New Day started. And by "thread about him" I mean "thread where we all go 'what the gently caress are you doing, Marvel?'" of course. I love Deadpool, let me say that first off. But god drat, I thought two monthlies was pushing it, and that Deadpool team up reeked of a cash-in. But does he really need to be put back into Cable? Do we really need a Deadpool Corps. spin off from Merc With a Mouth? How long is it going to be before there's a backlash, all the books sales drop, and we end up not seeing Deadpool again for 10 years because everyone is so loving sick of him? At the rate this is going, by the time they make the movie (if they make the movie) he's not going to have a following left, cult or otherwise. I just don't think Deadpool can sustain a Wolverine-esque schedule like this. What do you guys all think about this?
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| # ¿ Jan 20, 2010 06:47 |
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| # ¿ May 23, 2013 12:08 |
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The Way series is great. It gets both the humor and the more serious aspects of the character both perfect. Merc With A Mouth is nothing but wacky fun time Deadpool. There's nothing wrong with that. But Deadpool Corps. is a spin off of it, that seems like the same thing from the concept (eXiles but with all Deadpool!), and you don't need two books like that. And then Deadpool Team Up is also nothing but the comedy. Keep the Way book, cancel Deadpool Corps. and either Team Up or Merc With A Mouth. That way you can have a semi-serious Deadpool book and a fluff comedy book. You don't need 3 fluff comedy books though. The thing that'll piss me off is if Way's series gets ended, because that's the one that I'd love to see go on indefinitely.
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| # ¿ Jan 20, 2010 10:15 |
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Affi posted:I think so? It's been hinted at maybe, but never anything like that. I always thought they were cute together, him sitting outside her window watching her sleep... In the first Deadpool ongoing they confirmed that they had been an item at one point, and it really heavily implied that Siryn was the only woman Deadpool knew who was able to get past his...physical shortcomings. So I think while they definitely didn't say "they hosed" in a panel, it was pretty heavily implied that they had been together in that way before. Todays Merc with a Mouth had some of the most inconsistent art I've ever seen. And the Leifeld sections were awful. I also find it hilarious that they've retroactively renamed Cable & Deadpool Deadpool & Cable. That's insane. I'll probably get the trade though, as I don't have any of those issues myself, and they'll look nice next to my Deadpool Classic trades. Speaking of those Deadpool Classic trades, why the hell do they cost $30 a pop?
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| # ¿ Jan 21, 2010 07:13 |
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I'm surprised at all the hate the Thunderbolts crossover is getting in here, by the way. I thought it was fun, and funny. Deadpool hitting on Black Widow was pretty god drat great.
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| # ¿ Jan 21, 2010 08:26 |
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Gaz-L posted:It's not just that one issue. They're rereleasing the C&D series in trades and they've swapped the names around for that too. That's the new 'official' title. Yeah this is what I'm talking about. The one issue of Cable thing as a flash back I can understand. But retroactively changing the name of a series that's been over for a few years for it's trade release is crazy.
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| # ¿ Jan 22, 2010 00:30 |
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notthegoatseguy posted:My problem with the Deadpool/Thunderbolts story was I saw it marketed as a real battle. I thought we'd get less humor deadpool and more, well, strategic badass out for revenge Deadpool. And it failed on that part. My only real problem from it was I hoped for more Ant-Man/Deadpool together time. I think those two fighting, or even just talking with each other, could lead to some pretty funny poo poo, but they were hardly even near each other in the crossover.
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| # ¿ Jan 22, 2010 00:38 |
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Deadpool posted:It was pretty much retconned by Nicieza in Cable & Deadpool. Not really retconned but more of a "who the gently caress cares what I was before I was this and you were that?" type of thing, if I'm remembering right. He thinks he's Wade Wilson, so he is Wade Wilson. And so is T-Ray. But it doesn't matter, because neither of them are that guy anymore, if they ever really were.
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| # ¿ Jan 30, 2010 06:33 |
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I'm wondering if they actually might start to play around with the numbering on these being backwards. Deadpool crashes in with no explanation at all, so I'm wondering if maybe in the next issue, it'll end with him getting thrown out of a plane or something, and we'll see what was "totally worth it."
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| # ¿ Feb 5, 2010 11:52 |
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Poolovision is one of those things that Way does well, and then the other writers tried to do and failed miserably at. It's the same thing with the dueling white and yellow text boxes. I get a sense in Ways series that the white box is Way talking directly to Deadpool, but in the others, who the gently caress knows what it's supposed to be. Also, I'll flip through the first issue of Deadpool Corps. in the store, but if those covers are any indication, gently caress that series.
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| # ¿ Feb 26, 2010 12:27 |
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Zerouac posted:This is me too. I love Deadpool, he's always been one of my favorites but I cannot keep up with everything they're putting out, especially since a majority of it is subpar. Deadpool #19 is the first one to even make me laugh in a while. I have a nice pile, including Deadpool #900, that I can't even get through because they're so bad/boring. Read the story in Deadpool #900 that has the quasi-realistic art. It's almost Maleevish in style. It starts with Deadpool washing his rear end in a hotel room bathroom. It's the only story from it worth reading.
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| # ¿ Mar 8, 2010 06:39 |
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Zerouac posted:Alright based on your recommendation I'll pull it out next weekend and skip to this story. I will in fact stake any rep I may have on this. And if I have no rep, I will look to establish one with it.
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| # ¿ Mar 8, 2010 09:29 |
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Deadpool posted:The shrink one was the best. Followed by the Kelly/Liefeld one. I couldn't get past the art on the one TheJoker138 is talking about. It was horrible. You could read a Liefeld story but the art in that one was too much for you? It wasn't great, and like I said, a Maleev knock off, but the story was fine.
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| # ¿ Mar 10, 2010 07:34 |
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The four issue mini also seems to be less Deadpool and more "here's a bunch of unanswered questions about what he was like before he was Deadpool, finally explained."
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| # ¿ Mar 23, 2010 07:05 |
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Myrddin Emrys posted:What issue/series/whatever did Loki curse Deadpool into knowing that he's a comic character? I'd actually really like to read that. I don't think this ever happened. The first real mention of him knowing he's a comic character was just in some random issue of his original ongoing series when Bullseye goes "Wade, good to see you. How long has it been?" and his reply is "Rome, issue 19."
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| # ¿ Mar 25, 2010 03:44 |
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Myrddin Emrys posted:Wow, I really loved that issue of Deadpool. Spider-Man calling him out at the end made me realy feel for Wade, which is unusual for Deadpool these days. I've said it before and I'll say it again: Way's series is the only one that's hitting every level of what Deadpool is about. It's got the wacky fun time comedy stuff, and the pathos. He's a clown, but he's also deeply hosed up in a lot of serious ways, and the driving force behind his character is that he wants more than anything for people to like him but, as this issue said, being a hero and being loved for being a hero aren't the same thing.
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| # ¿ Mar 26, 2010 10:53 |
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My guess is Deadpool himself will narrate and talk to himself as he narrates, but we won't see a second narrator unless the writers are staying super up to date with the comics, which I somehow doubt. And I'm fine with that, cause two narrators would confuse the gently caress out of the general audience who's only seeing this cause it has "the guy with the laser eyes and sword arms from that Wolverine movie." Hell, I think the movie in general is going to be a very "...wha?" experience for anyone who isn't familiar with the comics.
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| # ¿ May 19, 2010 09:21 |
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Well cause no one else has mentioned it, I will. Wade Wilson's War was 100% not what I was expecting at all. I was expecting some crazy fourth wall breaking retelling of his origin, full of the same dumb poo poo we've been getting in books like Deadpool Corps and Team Up. Instead it's a somewhat gritty and dark "real world" version of his origin, with "X" being the name of a merc team consisting of him, Bullseye, Domino, and Silver Sable. I quite liked it, really.
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| # ¿ Jun 17, 2010 21:30 |
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SpaceBees posted:I just started reading Deadpool. Picked some comics up from the comic book store today. The ones I got are Secret Invasion, Vengeance of the Moonkinght, Cable and Deadpool: If Looks Could Kill, and Merc with a Mouth issue 12. Any other ones I should check out? Stop reading Merc with a Mouth. It's only got one issue left. If you want some good, old school Deadpool, the Deadpool: Classics trades are a bit expensive but worth it (well, maybe not the first one so much, but it does have issue #1 of his first ongoing in it). And while opinion here seems mixed, I really enjoyed Wade Wilsons War, which is a new mini that just started.
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| # ¿ Jun 18, 2010 20:16 |
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redbackground posted:Are there any movies of him using the health gauge as a weapon? One of his supers is beating his opponent with their own health bar.
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| # ¿ Jun 21, 2010 03:20 |
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Gavok posted:Wade Wilson's War irks me. When your story is a big heaping of backstory, seeing nothing but continuity square pegs into round holes jabs you every time. It might be acceptable if there was any story to be told other than "Deadpool annoys a senator with a bunch of retcons." Bullseye, Silver Sable and Domino are all older than dirt (yet not as old as Spider-Man) and Bullseye's powers came from Weapon X. Sure, why not. Bullseye's Too Much Coffee Man appearance is also starting to grate. I'm 100% sure that this is either not in continuity, or it's going to end up that Deadpool was just making poo poo up to kill time for some reason or another.
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| # ¿ Jul 1, 2010 08:19 |
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Shiftypenguin posted:I thought Quesada said the Marvel Knights line was not in continuity. I think that's MAX you're thinking of. But maybe Marvel Knights isn't anymore either. It used to be though, for sure.
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| # ¿ Jul 2, 2010 01:32 |
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Millars Spider-Man was MK, and it was in continuity. But I guess it's like MAX and is a grab bag.
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| # ¿ Jul 2, 2010 02:56 |
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Happy Hippo posted:I don't understand this post. Yeah I don't get it either. Wade Wilsons War is a What If? like the current Marvel Universe vs The Punisher thing. It's not in continuity. Corps. is a Liefeld book, so I'm working under the assumption that it sucks balls and haven't touched it with a ten foot pole. The current Way series is in a slump, but I'll stick it out for at least one more arc to see if it comes back. I dropped Team Up after that trucker issue and haven't looked back. And Merc With A Mouth is done.
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| # ¿ Aug 16, 2010 22:14 |
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Myrddin Emrys posted:Are you sure about the What If thing? I mean, I don't care if it's not in continuity, but the last issue seemed to imply that literally everything Deadpool said was completely made up and basically pinpoints the moment where he goes insane, which I thought was really cool. Well by a What If? I just meant not in continuity. Because Deadpool was part of Weapon X in Canada, not in America, and a bunch of other stuff. I guess maybe "Elseworlds" would have been a better analogy.
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| # ¿ Aug 18, 2010 02:50 |
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I just finally got around to reading the last issue of Wade Wilson's War. I know reaction to it here was mixed, but I really like how it played with the idea of him thinking/knowing he's a comic book character.
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| # ¿ Sep 7, 2010 08:14 |
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So, the script for the Deadpool movie leaked. It's pretty good, but there is no chance in hell of it ever getting made in the form it's in unless whoever is in charge of green lighting projects at Fox has a psychotic break.
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| # ¿ Oct 13, 2010 20:52 |
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I'm not sure if it counts as files, so I'd like to get the ok from a mod before posting where I got it. Until then I can answer any questions about it you guys have. I'll start by saying that it is in no way a continuation of the character from Wolverine Origins. The only references made to it are you see an action figure of him from that movie that he throws away, and he at one point staples a picture of Hugh Jackmans face to his own face as a disguise.
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| # ¿ Oct 13, 2010 22:20 |
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IUG posted:Not to be one of those people, but if you do answer questions about it, could you put them in spoiler tags? I'd rather not know personally, in case this is the final-ish draft. As Gavok said, there's no god drat way this thing is getting made. I don't care if the writers were told to go for a hard R, there is no way Fox will let anything like this be associated with the X-Men franchise, especially when there's an X-Men character in the movie. I'll still throw stuff in spoiler tags, just in case, but it's not getting made. There's copious amounts of not only violence, and swearing, but there's sex everywhere too. It's like reading an issue of Deadpool's first ongoing series, updated to 2010 with the volume turned up to 11. It's insanity. I would also say that if they made this movie, as it is, it would bomb. Fans would loving LOVE it, but I seriously doubt anyone else would "get" it. For instance, there's a montage of pre-cancer Wade and Vanessa, who is a hooker in this, loving. They show the passage of time by having them dressed in seasonly appropriate outfits. So for Halloween they're wearing jack-o-lanterns, for Thanksgiving they're dressed as pilgrims, and for Christmas they're wearing X-Mas sweaters and no pants. This movie isn't getting made.
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| # ¿ Oct 14, 2010 00:10 |
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ChuckDHead posted:Even if it doesn't get made, they should take this thing and turn it into a MAX comic. I would literally kill for it to get made just to see the scene from The Proposal that they do in another flashback montage.
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| # ¿ Oct 14, 2010 00:32 |
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I'd also like to say that while the script is mostly great, there is some stuff that makes it seem dated already. Specifically a running gag about Amy Winehouse that gets called back to twice.
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| # ¿ Oct 14, 2010 00:38 |
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Codependent Poster posted:Fox doesn't seem to give a poo poo about the X-Men anyway, so I don't see why they wouldn't want to make this since they can push it as starring Reynolds, who will be even bigger after GL comes out, and by the Zombieland writers. Even if they didn't care about having something like this directly associated with a franchise that has thus far been PG-13 (even the Wolverine movie, which is about a guy who's powers are having 8 inch knives in his hands and killing dudes in berserker rages), there's the fact that the general public will not get this script. They just won't get the humor. Maybe I'm not giving the general public enough credit, but I just think a lot of the stuff in here will either go right over their heads or be considered stupid. Then again, I doubt they'd really need more than $20-$30 million to make this thing, depending on Reynolds salary and who they go for in the other roles, so maybe it could be something that they only need guys like us to go to for it to be successful.
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| # ¿ Oct 14, 2010 01:52 |
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Myrddin Emrys posted:I vote that instead of TheJoker138 releasing the script, he makes a video of himself acting out all the parts. As a film student, I COULD totally do this. I'm not going to, but I could.
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| # ¿ Oct 14, 2010 02:55 |
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Gavok posted:Having finished reading, the X-Men crossover character is the only thing that overly bugs me about the script. If they were to change it to Strong Guy, it would work a lot better. I don't think Strong Guy would work. The character is there trying to recruit Wade, and get him to turn his life around. When I think Strong Guy I don't think "this guy is working for the X-Men" like I do when they used the character in it.
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| # ¿ Oct 14, 2010 06:23 |
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Gavok posted:The X-Men isn't what's important. It's being a superhero who is very strong. Yeah we should just say it. It's Wild Child. But seriously though, there are a few lines in it that were great and wouldn't work if it wasn't a member of the X-Men, that I'd hate to lose.
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| # ¿ Oct 14, 2010 06:45 |
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lu_ducky posted:If Kick-rear end can get made and be a Hard R plus recoup all it's money and more and with a sequel on the way, this can too... Kick-rear end was a super straight forward comic book movie. It was about a superhero, it had a relateable everyman main character, and wasn't that far out there. This movie has an insane mercenary wearing an inside out Spider-Man mask singing Gwen Stefani songs before jumping off of a bridge. It has an entire page long discussion of Steven Segal movie titles. It has no less than three musical montages of CRAZY NONSENSICAL poo poo. This movie and Kick rear end are not comparable in any way, other than "they are both based on comics and both rated R."
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| # ¿ Oct 14, 2010 21:46 |
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Every non-comic fan I've tried to explain Deadpool to has either said they don't get it or they think it all sounds incredibly loving stupid. And while they don't read comics, these are all males between the ages of 21-25, who do watch comic book movies. Maybe my friends just hate fun, but I think it's a hard sell.
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| # ¿ Oct 14, 2010 22:40 |
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hermanos posted:"He's a ninja secret agent who cracks jokes and is insane." I also can't convince any of my friends to even watch Crank 2, which they also said looked retarded, so...yeah maybe it's just them. I tried explaining some of the gags in the script to one of them, and got nothing but "that's so stupid my brain hurts" in return.
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| # ¿ Oct 14, 2010 23:11 |
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Myrddin Emrys posted:I've found a lot of people don't know what the "fourth wall" is and don't understand why breaking it is funny, though. I explained it to a friend who for sure knows what it is, but then said he thought breaking it like Deadpool does was a stupid gimmick.
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| # ¿ Oct 14, 2010 23:30 |
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Kismet posted:P.S. I have not seen Crank or Crank 2, because I also believe they look retarded. The moral of this post is either that tastes differ, or that explaining films second-hand is a bad way to sell them. I guess the only way to find out is by watching them. (But they look retarded.) Just gotta say, skip Crank. The first one. It's not great. The second is so over the top and crazy that you need to see it at least once. He has to keep electrocuting himself to keep his robot heart going, for gods sake. At one point he throws himself into a power grid at an electrical substation, and it becomes a parody of godzilla movies, with a giant rubber Jason Statham fighting a giant rubber version of the films villain. And it has David Carradine as a thousand year old Chinese crime lord, Poon Dong.
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| # ¿ Oct 15, 2010 13:55 |
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| # ¿ May 23, 2013 12:08 |
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Myrddin Emrys posted:So it's sort of like if Tony Stark was not so smart and unable to plan for the future in any capacity? Not smart at all. And instead of becoming Iron Man cause of terrorists, he became Iron Man because Chinese gangsters were harvesting his organs while he was still alive.
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| # ¿ Oct 15, 2010 16:26 |
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