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snotball007 posted:
I'm assuming that the sights are dovetailed. I'm also assuming that you are using Loctite thread lock compound. I don't think it's going to help much in this application. Threadlock cures in the absence of air and generally under pressure (like you'd find on screw threads). It may gunk up a bit but I don't think it would really hold. Loctite does make a retaining compound for press fit bearings and stuff that may be better suited for your application. I haven't rwally messed around with it though.
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Eating the Pudding posted:I'm assuming that the sights are dovetailed. I'm also assuming that you are using Loctite thread lock compound. I don't think it's going to help much in this application. Threadlock cures in the absence of air and generally under pressure (like you'd find on screw threads). It may gunk up a bit but I don't think it would really hold. Loctite does make a retaining compound for press fit bearings and stuff that may be better suited for your application. I haven't rwally messed around with it though. Yes, stock p6 sights. I was considering rubber cement but unsure if it'd even be worth it. Right now I'm more worried about the wear that I posted a post or two back. Been wearing it the last few days and sights haven't budged. Probably going to hit the range on Sunday at the earliest and compare any more wear after another 150 rounds or so. Did rather well during 7yd self defense drill with my friend who is a self proclaimed "natural". 5/8 for me (rather disappointed myself, honestly) as opposed to his "Glockerific" 5/13. Thinking the spring/aftermarket grips might be a necessity after all. Did better later on, but that first shot kept me from anything above 7/8.
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| # ? Aug 1, 2012 02:27 |
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Apparently Sig is now selling a pistol to carbine conversion kit.  It's made of aluminum and is designed to fit any pistol with a rail. Standard versions come without a stock, but there is a version with one if you want to NFA it up. Edit: Apparently they also sell a 551 clone?  I kind of miss my 556, but mine had some weird bolt issue and wasn't very accurate. Did they ever fix that stuff? Are new ones better? I wish they didn't bother making AR's and put that time/money into the 556 instead. Factory SBR edit: 
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Ninja Rope posted:
Seriously? This isn't exactly news. We've got a thread on the drat things that's something like 10 pages deep and gets bumped to the front page maybe once every 2-3 weeks. edit: was your bolt peening in odd places? They fixed that, and I haven't heard any accuracy complaints outside of the first few months of 556 production. The 551A1s have all been pretty solid. I own one and it's one of my favorite guns to shoot.
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| # ? Aug 5, 2012 02:57 |
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Cyrano4747 posted:Seriously? Yeah if I was going the SBR route the 551-A1 SBR would be on my short list, and pretty high up on it too (along with maybe some sort of "Krinkov" sort of thing or a Draco). Hell, if I was to buy a 5.56mm rifle right now the regular 551-A1 would probably be the first thing I'd look into just because they're awesome and what I always wanted the 556 to be (but it wasn't).
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| # ? Aug 5, 2012 03:15 |
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Cyrano4747 posted:Seriously? Sorry, I guess I missed that thread, I was just looking around their site and it jumped out at me. I guess technically it was the carrier that was peening; it looked like it was hitting something about 3/4 of the way on the inside of the receiver. I bought the gun used and I don't remember the manufacture date, but I remember a thread on some sig forum at the time with other people reporting similar issues. Of the ones who sent it back to Sig it seemed like a 50/50 split of getting something replaced versus having Sig send it back with "that's normal". There were a handful of things I didn't love about the 556 so I sold it and bought an LWRC, but I did like the side/fixed charging handle setup on the 556 better.
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| # ? Aug 5, 2012 03:31 |
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So guys, any reason to replace the plastic guide rod with a metal one in my 226?
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| # ? Aug 5, 2012 04:25 |
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foundtomorrow posted:So guys, any reason to replace the plastic guide rod with a metal one in my 226? Nope. Some people like a heavy guide rod because it lowers recoil ever so slightly, but the plastic one will be just as reliable as a metal rod.
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| # ? Aug 5, 2012 04:31 |
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 So I picked up this P226 Elite Dark with threaded barrel the other day, finally giving me a suitable host for my Osprey 9. Sadly, the grips still have the white Sig Sauer logo on them, despite their web site stating for more than a year now that they would no longer ship this way. Not bad for being the only complaint about an otherwise great setup. coronary quips fucked around with this message at Aug 5, 2012 around 05:20 |
| # ? Aug 5, 2012 05:18 |
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I am seriously jealous right now. I would love an Osprey on my 226. If the grips bother you then you should call customer support and bitch. The worst they can do is say no.
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| # ? Aug 5, 2012 06:15 |
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coronary quips posted:
Also seriously jealous. 
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| # ? Aug 5, 2012 08:56 |
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foundtomorrow posted:So guys, any reason to replace the plastic guide rod with a metal one in my 226? 
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| # ? Aug 5, 2012 10:54 |
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Uncle Caveman posted:Sig is using plastic guide rods now? They'd better not be. It was bad enough when Beretta started doing it. But at least I had a bag of metal Beretta guide rods held in reserve so I wouldn't be caught with my guide rod showing. So to speak.
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| # ? Aug 5, 2012 10:56 |
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Uncle Caveman posted:Sig is using plastic guide rods now? Yes, I think they switched a while back (at least a year or two). My 226 Elite bought in late 2010 certainly is plastic.
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| # ? Aug 5, 2012 20:13 |
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Yeah, they've been that way for a few years if I recall. The guys at sigforum were pretty up in arms about it, but unlike so many things Sig has done lately there haven't been any problems (that I can recall).
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| # ? Aug 5, 2012 20:21 |
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A large store nearish me is advertising an "exclusive" version of the P238 with fiber optic front sight, night rear sights, and hogue rubber grips for $489.99 is that as crazy cheap as it sounds? Though I would want a P238 for carry and wouldnt fiber optic sights be a poor choice for that? Basticle fucked around with this message at Aug 5, 2012 around 21:35 |
| # ? Aug 5, 2012 21:32 |
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Basticle posted:A large store nearish me is advertising an "exclusive" version of the P238 with fiber optic front sight, night rear sights, and hogue rubber grips for $489.99 That is a very good price for a local find. Sights are always a matter of contention. A fiber-optic front with tritium rear will give you a good sight picture in any lighting condition brighter than pitch-black, in which case you won't be able to see your target anyway.
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| # ? Aug 5, 2012 21:39 |
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coronary quips posted:
How do you like the Osprey? Do you have another 9mm can to compare it to?
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| # ? Aug 5, 2012 22:12 |
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CmdrRat posted:How do you like the Osprey? Do you have another 9mm can to compare it to? I only had a chance to fire a few rounds today of 147 grain Federal P9HST2, but it sounded very nice and didn't sound very loud at all. The range I was planning on visiting was closed this weekend, so hopefully next Sunday I'll be able to provide a better impression, possibly some recordings. I don't have another 9mm suppressor to compare it to, but that's something I may look into now that I can hear first hand what this one sounds like. I only fired a few shots, but it sounded kind of like a loud pop or slap, maybe similar to an air gun or something of the sort. Are the E2 grips really that great? Despite the white logo on the grips, I really do find that this gun fits in my hand absolutely perfectly. I wasn't sure I'd like aluminum grips, either, but they also seem to be great. It's kind of silly but I almost feel like this gun was made to fit into my hand. I'm still trying to figure out what the best subsonic ball ammo would be to shoot through an Osprey 9, any suggestions? coronary quips fucked around with this message at Aug 6, 2012 around 04:18 |
| # ? Aug 6, 2012 04:15 |
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The dark grips are just aluminum versions of the standard sig grips, right? I prefer the E2 my P226 came with. Hell, go visit a gun store and feel the difference.
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| # ? Aug 6, 2012 06:29 |
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E2, E2 is the greatest.
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| # ? Aug 6, 2012 13:25 |
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Dont do the E2 until you have held it. If you have larger hands the E2 may not be comfortable
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| # ? Aug 7, 2012 00:46 |
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Tomcat1944 posted:Dont do the E2 until you have held it. If you have larger hands the E2 may not be comfortable I didn't like it on my P229. The texture was great, but it was a little too small and it really changed the way the gun pointed for me. And not for the better.
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| # ? Aug 7, 2012 01:02 |
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ilkhan posted:The dark grips are just aluminum versions of the standard sig grips, right? I prefer the E2 my P226 came with. Hell, go visit a gun store and feel the difference. Aluminum grips are slightly smaller than standard grips.
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| # ? Aug 7, 2012 01:06 |
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Ninja Rope posted:Apparently Sig is now selling a pistol to carbine conversion kit. This is retarded! I want it! Conceivably, could you put an M4 vertical foregrip on that front piece of rail?
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| # ? Aug 7, 2012 21:23 |
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:This is retarded! I want it! No you can't. If you did that you would create an AOW and the feds would be unhappy.
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| # ? Aug 7, 2012 21:38 |
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Ah.. having both front and rear pistol grips is a no-no, isn't it?
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| # ? Aug 7, 2012 21:43 |
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1833Marine posted:No you can't. If you did that you would create an AOW and the feds would be unhappy. But an AFG is fine and a VFG angled so that it isn't directly perpendicular to the ground e.g. some undetermined angle > or < 90 degrees is also ok according to the ATF depending on how they feel that day.  The whole AOW thing is retarded anyway because people have put loop straps on the front of their MAC-10s for years and the ATF never pitched a fit about it, so basically as long as it isn't a fixed 90 degrees the ATF doesn't seem to care. And they don't seem to care about bipods, though I'm not sure about monopods & grippods or if the grip sticks out to the side like a Sten or Sterling gun. Fat Ogre fucked around with this message at Aug 7, 2012 around 22:00 |
| # ? Aug 7, 2012 21:48 |
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I love how the majority of ATF restrictions are based on how cool the gun would look being fired by Arnold Schwarzenegger in black leather and sunglasses.
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| # ? Aug 7, 2012 22:09 |
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Sig friends: A buddy of mine recently bought a NIB 226. He's been slightly spoiled by the triggers on some of my guns, so I was doing some light research on some DIY things that might make a bit of a difference. In specific, have you guys swapped the hammer spring for something lighter? If so, did it make an appreciable difference on the DA pull (or SA, however slight), and has stepping down to something like a 17 or 18# wolff spring given you any problems in setting off primers reliably?
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| # ? Aug 7, 2012 22:29 |
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hangedman posted:1. have you guys swapped the hammer spring for something lighter? 2. DA=noticeably lighter; SA=negligible 3. Very rarely with notoriously hard primers like Magtech. Quality FMJ (Geco, Blazer) and all defensive JHPs (Gold dots, Rangers, etc) have had zero problems.
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| # ? Aug 8, 2012 00:28 |
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Cool. Do you remember how heavy of a spring you're running, Caveman?
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| # ? Aug 8, 2012 03:09 |
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I'm fairly sure it's 18 or 20lb (factory is 24lb for old-style 226)
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| # ? Aug 8, 2012 03:57 |
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Shot the P938 for the second time today, and am happy to report I was able to stop the extraction issues. I used 124 grain Winchester NATO rounds and made a point to grip the gun a little tighter than I usually do and didn't have one problem after 150 rounds. Its also worth mentioning I greased the gun, and left the magazines fully loaded for a few days to break in those incredibly stiff springs. Great gun, now I just need to find someone to trade me some rosewood grips for my current ones.
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| # ? Aug 9, 2012 05:51 |
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I can't imagine shooting 9mm ~+p out of a 16oz gun was very pleasant.. Glad to hear it's working correctly, though! And in the interest of squashing myths - you can't break in a magazine spring by leaving the mag loaded, spring steal doesn't work like that. televiper fucked around with this message at Aug 9, 2012 around 08:25 |
| # ? Aug 9, 2012 08:22 |
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televiper posted:I can't imagine shooting 9mm ~+p out of a 16oz gun was very pleasant.. Glad to hear it's working correctly, though! Its actually surprisingly pleasant considering the size ratio. If you get a chance try one out. Good to know about the mag springs, could of sworn they're easier to fully load than they were before but just getting used to it is probably why.
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| # ? Aug 9, 2012 08:41 |
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I decided to take my .40 P226 MSP, clean it, and put it in storage. It doesn't hold any sentimental value for me and it's not a gun I shoot a lot. It's kind of a collector's gun at this point. I want to hang on to it, but getting it out of my main gun safe will create room for other purchases. This thing is so worn out... I have no idea how many rounds were fired through it during its time in the Michigan State Police, but the "smilies" on the barrel are worn down so much, you can feel a step in the barrel metal where the wear starts. Despite that, it is still tight, mechanically accurate, and reliable. I have never had a single malfunction in the three years I've owned it, no matter what ammo I ran through it. It was surprisingly clean when I detail stripped it - just the usual gunk on the feed ramp. I cleaned it, lubed it, and put it away. I got to wondering how many rounds I'd fired through it since I bought it, knowing it couldn't be that much. I went back through my logs and added up the totals: 680 rounds; more than I thought, but not nearly as much as I've put through my trusty old 9mm P226. Though the 9mm was definitely used when I bought it, it didn't appear to have a half a million rounds down the tube. I like stories. 
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infrared35 posted:I decided to take my .40 P226 MSP, clean it, and put it in storage. It doesn't hold any sentimental value for me and it's not a gun I shoot a lot. It's kind of a collector's gun at this point. I want to hang on to it, but getting it out of my main gun safe will create room for other purchases. Wait, is this one of the commemorative MSP P226s? Or an actual surplus one? Totally owns if it's the latter
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| # ? Aug 10, 2012 00:53 |
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IuniusBrutus posted:Wait, is this one of the commemorative MSP P226s? Or an actual surplus one? Actual surplus, bought from Bruce Campbell*, whose son is a Trooper.  I forgot to mention that the right side of the frame is seriously worn down along the front edge of the grip, where the gun rubbed up against the seatbelt buckle as the wearer was getting in and out of the car over and over. Or maybe it was from pistol-whippings. Depends on who you ask. The grips are also worn nearly smooth on that side. Pictured with the holsters it came with:  And another view of the frame wear, with P229 for size comparison:  * Not the famous one.
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| # ? May 25, 2013 02:26 |
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Holy poo poo that frame wear. If that wasn't your gun with a very likely explanation and I just found it in a pawn shop I"d assume some idiot did a little DIY re-profiling with a dremel or something.
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