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Also, dominance humping knows no gender. Even though she's female, she'll still do it if she feels her position is being threatened.
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Octofoot posted:Also, dominance humping knows no gender. Even though she's female, she'll still do it if she feels her position is being threatened. Also, just like boy dogs, girl dogs sometimes do it because feels good man
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My dog humps the poor cat every chance he gets. He's so much bigger the cat just has zero chance.
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Octofoot posted:Also, dominance humping knows no gender. Even though she's female, she'll still do it if she feels her position is being threatened. So her dominance is threatened by our legs every time my girlfriend and I are sitting on the couch watching TV?
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Laminator posted:So her dominance is threatened by our legs every time my girlfriend and I are sitting on the couch watching TV? Superconsndar posted:Also, just like boy dogs, girl dogs sometimes do it because feels good man Most humping has nothing to do with ~dominance~ and everything to do with "i am a dog and this feels good bark bark"
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DenialTwist posted:Never mind, anytime someone questions you; you turn into a condescending bitch. True facts ITT.
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Oh Em Gee posted:True facts ITT. "Bully Breed Thread 3.0: Bat Ears and Joker Smiles ITT - Now with Less Drama!" So shut the gently caress up, the issue isn't even being discussed any more.
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Laminator posted:So her dominance is threatened by our legs every time my girlfriend and I are sitting on the couch watching TV? I was talking about the situation you had outlined- the snarling and humping the other dog. That sounds like a definite dominance thing. The leg thing... is "feels good man" humping.
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It's nice to find a group of people who aren't afraid of pits, and love them like they deserve to be loved. They make great pets, although not for everyone. I had always heard all the nasty things about them and never thought of owning one, but around Christmas I purchased a dog from a friend who bought her for fighting. She was only about 6 mos but had already learned to be very aggressive, was not house trained, etc. My boyfriend and I fell in love with her and were determined to give her a better life than what she was destined for. Now she goes potty outside, is friendly with (most) other dogs and people (female people, male dogs) and has generally adjusted well to having a suburban family life. However, she still has some problems and I have questions. She is very smart and understands most basic commands (sit, stay, drop, fetch, come, no, good, food, etc) but will go absolutely apeshit if she can't have what she wants. If she is in a room and wants to leave, she will tear the frame off a door, rip the screen out of a window, or literally get a running start and bodyslam whatever the barrier is until it breaks. At night she is closed in the bedroom with me because she will poop in the house if I don't wake up early enough, but she will lie for hours by the door crying before she comes to bed. If the door is open, however, she will lie in the bed with me and go to sleep right away. Also she has been learning to do new awful things, like pull down baby gates and use doorknobs with her mouth. The worst thing is when she does what I can only describe as become insane. For example, she will see something she wants outside (person, cat, etc) and refuse to forget about it for anything, food, toys, attention, etc. She will whine and cry for HOURS, shred the door frame and wall, drool and cry. She almost never barks though, so I guess I'm lucky there. For the record, she gets a long walk every day and hours outside in a fenced yard, plus lots of playtime with several different people, so I don't think it is a boredom issue? She will choke down her food to the point of vomiting up piles of whole kibbles if she is fed at certain times of the day rather than having constant food (le bistro). I recently lost my apartment and won't be getting a new one for at least another month, so she is living with my boyfriend now. Since staying with him and not me, she has been (what I perceive as) "challenging" me frequently when I come over, like growling if she thinks I will take an important toy or touch her in a way she doesn't like. She has NEVER pulled that with me before, I could always carry her around like a baby, take anything from her mouth, and pretty much do anything I want with her. Why is she doing this and how do I show her that I'm still above her in the pack even though we don't share a home? tl;dr Dog was messed up when we got her and is improving, but continues to have serious issues. I have read a lot about the breed/training but don't know anyone else who has a "bully breed" and treats it right, so I am not sure where to go from here. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. I want to add pics but don't know how?  I didn't mention that she is the cutest dog in the world, to the point that people stop me in the street and ask to breed their dogs with her. (No dice, shes getting fixed June 1st) edit: maybe I can add pics
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Heading to work right now so I can't really make a longer post but for the house training and sleeping in the room with you at night stuff you should realyl look into crate training her. She is adorable though, and you guys are awesome for taking her out of that situation 
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rivals posted:Heading to work right now so I can't really make a longer post but for the house training and sleeping in the room with you at night stuff you should realyl look into crate training her. She is adorable though, and you guys are awesome for taking her out of that situation Thank you! I have thought about crate training, but the only times she goes in the house are when its early and she tries to wake me up but I refuse, so it's kind of my fault. However, being closed in the bedroom sort of acts as the crate, because she won't go to the bathroom there. Plus I would hate to give up sleeping with my doggy  . One of her major issues seems to be with confinement, and not having the option to leave if she chooses. I am wondering if a crate would make her realize that its tough poo poo and some times you simply don't get a choice. She never gets the door opened no matter how much she cries though, so I feel like its sort of the same lesson and isn't working, a crate might just show her that life could be worse and she had it good? I do know that it would make her miserable though, and she is very stubborn so I'm not sure how long it would take for her to accept it and not hate her life.
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Actually the whole point is that she should LOVE being in the crate. It's not a quick process but the end result is a dog that's content being in their crate and won't have the opportunity to be destructive while she's in there. Start off by feeding her in her crate. You need to switch her to a scheduled feeding time, she's puking because she's eating too fast, you can fix that by either getting her a special go slow bowl like one of these http://www.amazon.com/Hagen-Dogit-S...m/dp/B0038HLHJU or scattering her food on the bottom of the crate so she can't scarf it down. At first, don't even close the door on her! After she is used to eating in the crate you can close the door when she's eating and open it when she's done. She should NEVER be uncomfortable in the crate, that will make her hate it and you'll have to fight her to get her in there, which will not be fun for either one of you. Then give her things like bones or kongs stuffed with frozen wet food or pumpkin and such that will take her longer to eat in the crate so she's spending more time in there, gradually work up the time she spends there so she's not stressed out by the process. I'd look into doing something like weight pull with her, or at the very least build her a springpole. She has a LOT of energy and it doesn't sound like she's getting it all out in her daily walk.
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Supernaturalist posted:gradually work up the time she spends there so she's not stressed out by the process. Thank you, that sounds like a really good idea and I will look into getting a crate if I can make her like it. I don't know what weight pulling or a springole is though? Is it like, dog sports? Because she would love that, but I have no idea how it works. Do you set up something at home, or go to classes, or what?
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a springpole is a device you can build in your backyard. Does she like to play tug of war? 99.99% of Pits can't live without it. A springpole allows for your dogs to wear itself out playing tug without pulling your arms out of their sockets. This page has info about the springpole on the bottom, and flirtpole on the top, one of those would be worth the effort to make too. Weight pull is a dog sport that pits excel at. http://www.pulldoggies.com/ has lots of great photos and information. Keep in mind however that any sport for dogs, just like for people has to be started slow and your dog has to be brought into and kept at a good competitive weight and musculature. Since your dog was bought for the initial purpose of fighting, she's likely to be a very high energy and dog with a lot of gameness. It's really important that you channel her energy into something constructive. She'll be happy because she'll have something to do and you'll be happy because she won't be spending her energy destroying your house. It's also AMAZING to see just what your dog is actually capable of doing. We don't often think of our pets as little quadraped supermen but that's what they are, pound for pound they are the equivalent of human Olympic athletes and need outlets for that kind of mentality and capability. Think of it this way dogs are capable of speeds and feats of strength that few or even no humans are capable of. Would an olympic runner be happy with the walk you're giving your dog every day? because that's pretty much what you've got at the end of your leash. Since you aren't going to become an olympic runner to please your dog's need for activity, you need be creative in giving her things to do to wear her out. What's her name by the way? Supernaturalist fucked around with this message at May 23, 2010 around 19:09 |
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Also Ashes Halloway, have you thought about getting a doggy backpack for her and loading it up with some water bottles or baggies of sand for weight? It would wear her out on walks a lot more.
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Kerfuffle posted:Also Ashes Halloway, have you thought about getting a doggy backpack for her and loading it up with some water bottles or baggies of sand for weight? It would wear her out on walks a lot more. We do this with our pit mix and she loves it. Just be careful not to put too much weight while she's still young. Once we move into a more permanent place (in December, yay!) I'm going to build a springpole for her
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Her name is Cassidy. Saying that they are little olympic athletes is perfect, I could not have picked a better way to describe her endless energy. She loves tug of war so I think the springpole would be great, and anything that wears her out better is good for me. The weight pulling thing looks excellent, I think it would be perfect because she seems to like challenging her own upper body by lifting and carrying the biggest things that she can. She will stagger proudly around the yard with a huge log in her mouth, until it falls and she has to learn all over again that the only way to lift it is by grabbing the middle. I don't have a lot of money right now, but these will be the first things I invest in when I can get some. If shes getting tired enough she might be less destructive at night and just go to sleep rather than whine. I had heard of something like the springpole and about weighted harnesses, but I thought they were only something you had if you wanted your dog to fight, so I never considered doing it. Are the other things like the arm cover and bite pillows good? I am looking through a site that sells these things, and its also recommending break up sticks or something for emergencies and choke collars, what do you think of these things? Do they hurt them or is that just what you should have with a strong dog? And speaking of being young, she just turned a year old but is still pretty small. How long do they grow for? Thanks so much for all the advice and sites Ashes Halloway fucked around with this message at May 23, 2010 around 19:55 |
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Ashes Halloway posted:
Springpole and weightpull are great for pitbulls, but they're supposed to have very strong bite inhibition with humans which makes sports like Schtuzhund (which is what the bite pillows/arm covers are used for) unsuitable for them. Break sticks are good to have on hand and know how to use in case she gets in a fight with another dog, but it's better not to let her get in those situations in the first place if possible. Choke collars are dangerous; if she has issues with pulling instead try a prong collar, no pull harness, or head collar as part of training her not to pull. As for how long they grow: APBTs range hugely in size depending on the line, and she doesn't look that small to me. She probably won't get much bigger, but will continue to fill out until around her second birthday.
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Ashes Halloway posted:I had heard of something like the springpole and about weighted harnesses, but I thought they were only something you had if you wanted your dog to fight, so I never considered doing it. Entirely false. They are both really great things that mke the dog feel like they have a job so it provides both mental and physical stimulation. quote:Are the other things like the arm cover and bite pillows good? I'm not sure on this, but I'm going to say they are probably not a good idea. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong but I think it encourages things that shouldn't be encouraged. quote:I am looking through a site that sells these things, and its also recommending break up sticks or something for emergencies and choke collars, what do you think of these things? Do they hurt them or is that just what you should have with a strong dog? Break sticks are good to have to break up fights. Choke collars are awful, for leash training try a properly fitted prong if necessary. quote:And speaking of being young, she just turned a year old but is still pretty small. How long do they grow for? Thanks so much for all the advice and sites She probably won't get much bigger than that but she'll keep filling out until she's about 2. EDIT: Of course, efb by Superconsndar
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Thanks for all the advice, I can't wait to start doing some new fun activities with the dog
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Good luck! And post more pictures  It's so much fun seeing happy dogs on springpoles and stuff because they're just having so much fun.
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My neighbors just installed a blue pit bull on a chain in their yard. Fortunately they're pretty nice and like to chat, and are completely in love with my super-trained cattledog mix. Thanks to PI I can successfully gush about their dog and how awesome she(?) is, and hopefully elevate her status from yard ornament to beloved indoor pet. She's definitely got some staff and/or neo mastiff in there, she's big and blue, but with a nice athletic build. I have high hopes for the neighbors, I think the problem is a lack of education. My roommate chatted with them briefly after they got her, and said they rescued her from a dogfighter. I laughed. She's a pretty and well-built status-symbol bully, but she's so far from a game dog it's hilarious. Her chain is long enough to reach the 4' chain link fence between their driveway and my yard. My dogs really want to fence fight. They either shortened the chain today or she just got caught on something, because I just noticed she can't reach the fence anymore, but everyone still stands there and barks at each other. Solution: Take dogs out with cheese. Feed my dogs for ignoring neighbor dog. Toss cheese to neighbor dog. Result: Happy, quiet dogs. Next on the list: A collar. She just has the chain wrapped around her neck. I have a heavy duty nylon collar that is way overkill for my dog. It should fit her and be strong enough if they want to use it. I also have a prong I picked up at a garage sale a few years ago that is way too heavy for either of my dogs. Crate training! I hope they're interested in a way to keep their dog indoors with them. No suburban dog belongs in the yard unless their people are there too. I can see chaining her for potty breaks and outside time since they don't have a fence, but she really should be sleeping indoors with them. Gotta share the wonders of indoor dogs for security purposes, too. She also needs a springpole. Neither of my dogs is springpole material, so introducing the neighbors to the concept would kick rear end. I'm sure they'd love to make their awesome dog even more awesome. Pictures when it's daylight and she's out in the driveway hoping for more cheese.
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Scary Ned posted:Pictures when it's daylight and she's out in the driveway hoping for more cheese. What is it with dogs and American cheese? My childhood dog was spoiled rotten by my next-door neighbor, who would give Kelly bits of cheese whenever she (the neighbor) was doing yardwork or even passing by. Kelly would preform magic tricks for that stuff. She was some kind of lab/lurcher/pit mix, because drat that dog had legs on her. I miss her, she was perfect. Stop staring at me, Bindi.
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Our family got its first bully breed last week! My brother flew all the way out to Oklahoma (we're in Pittsburgh) to fly himself and the dog back. The dog is from here. Meet Elvis, the french bulldog! He has a cleft lip that I tried to get a picture of, but he absolutely refused to look at the camera, so this is all I could get on my phone. We're so excited, he's such an awesome dog.  Click here for the full 1600x1200 image.
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Airan posted:Meet Elvis, the french bulldog! He has a cleft lip that I tried to get a picture of, but he absolutely refused to look at the camera, so this is all I could get on my phone. We're so excited, he's such an awesome dog. What a cutie, I love brindle Frenchies! Have you considered doing Schutzhund? 
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demozthenes posted:What a cutie, I love brindle Frenchies!  That's right up my brother's alley too. Unfortunately the little guy is such a lover that I think his only drive would be to smother the bite glove in smooches. I was so surprised at how soft his fur is! Pits and bulldogs always looked so coarse to me, but then again I've only ever actually seen one pit bull in person before, so the surprises are probably going to be incoming aplenty.
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Since Summer's almost here (or if you live in Florida, is here already) it's time for.... BAYWATCH BULLIES! Angus got to go to the dog beach yesterday! On previous excursions it was discovered that he swims about as well as your average concrete block, so on this trip I got him a life jacket!   Angus investigates a bait bucket.  Angus harasses my best friend's Aussie.     Afterwards we chilled at the attached dog park. This is Angus' idea of "chilling"   
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Holy crap, you live in Florida, where is that beach? I have the day off tomorrow and would love to take Maverick out there!
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It's the Ft. DeSoto Paw Playground. http://www.fortdesoto.com/pawplayground.php to the south of St. Pete. Definitely the nicest park around and Angus had an absolute BLAST.
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There is no big enough for those pictures.
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Hahaha, your concrete block comment reminded me of how when I worked at Petco a couple of years back, a couple came in with their pitbull (biiiiig pitbull) and wanted to take him on their boat so they bought him a life vest. It was like putting floaties on a brick house
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Somebody fucked around with this message at Feb 10, 2011 around 08:39 |
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He looks way too skinny to me. I would be concerned.
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If he was whippet it would be different story ,but I would show those pictures to your breeder. He's very skinny for a six month old am staff ,IMO. Somebody fucked around with this message at Feb 10, 2011 around 08:39 |
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DenialTwist posted:If he was whippet it would be different story ,but I would show those pictures to your breeder. He's very skinny for a six month old am staff ,IMO. This. For his breed and age he seems too skinny. Maybe a bully expert here will disagree, I just think seeing all the ribs and hip bone like that is a bit disconcerting.
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I'm no expert by any means but I think that looks way too thin also. Also seconding bringing it up with your breeder somehow. Maybe even do it to get her opinion on it?
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| # ? Jun 14, 2010 01:57 |
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His muscles are well defined (meaning he isn't starving) and he would look amazing and well conditioned IF he were an adult dog. Puppies need higher body fat though than adult dogs, and while some people like conditioning puppies it is generally considered a bad idea developmentally- like you pointed out, his job is growing right now, not getting what he already has in working condition. I don't think it's cause for major concern if he's doing alright because again, that is not an underfed dog, just one that's been conditioned too early, but I would not *personally* do it myself on a dog that young. Conditioning a puppy is a common newb mistake, and I'd talk to her about it, personally. That puppy needs to eat more in the time being and then worry about looking like that about a year from now. Edit: Here are some conditioned adult APBTs just for the heck of it (not staffy bulls like that puppy, but still)     So, for an adult dog to look that way, fine. A puppy, no. That's one of the newbiest noob mistakes ever. Superconsndar fucked around with this message at Jun 14, 2010 around 03:26 |
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Somebody fucked around with this message at Feb 10, 2011 around 08:40 |
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drat, that kinda changes everything. I'd definitely do whatever possible to get that puppy away from her. 
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How did she managed to get approved by the breeder? I'm assuming they didn't know all of this at the time? Somebody fucked around with this message at Feb 10, 2011 around 08:40 |
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