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Crustashio
Jul 27, 2000

ruh roh

InitialDave posted:

That's a straight up 180kph, so maybe it's a legal thing in a market they sell them in, and it's easier to just have it on all vehicles. Anyone know if this is a Canadian thing?

All "american" rental cars I tried in canada would hit 180 and stop, at least from what I drove working for a rental company. Although when I had a grand prix GTP that it 120mph before I ran out of road.

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Crustashio
Jul 27, 2000

ruh roh

Hermansen posted:

New Merc C-class coupé spotted in Germany.
Covered up a bit, but I think it looks rather sweet.
I have no other info other than the pic..


Mercedes really has come a long way with their looks, considering the w203 sportcoupe.



That thing was ugly as sin and the interior is atrocious.

Crustashio
Jul 27, 2000

ruh roh

rscott posted:

$25 grand for a "spiritual" successor to the AE86? Toyota, much like BMW has completely lost the plot in regards to what actually made them successful in the first place.

I'm not up on US prices - how much would a WRX 265, or genesis 3.8 cost compared to that?

Crustashio
Jul 27, 2000

ruh roh

travisray2004 posted:

Wtf is it with so many in this thread not having reading comprehension?

He thinks it's ugly, that being said, if it was cheaper (assuming he's in Canada) then he would buy it sheerly from the performance aspect.

I'm in the same boat...I won't deny the performance, but jesus christ do I hate the looks. I like absolutely none of the retro american cars.

It IS super-affordable in canada though. according to ford.ca the MSRP is ~24k, which is about 6k cheaper than a genesis 3.8, mazdaspeed3, etc.

Crustashio
Jul 27, 2000

ruh roh

bull3964 posted:

It's not a turbod vehicle, so I don't think turbo lag is a problem.

How in the hell are you supposed to make that layout FWD?

You could probably turn the engine 90° and fit a transmission/halfshafts, but that would probably be a huge pain and why the hell would you do it in the first place.

Has toyota/subaru announced pricing on these yet? If I could get a 2 door liftback for less than the price (in CAD) of a WRX I'd be all over that.

200hp/???tq/2700lbs could be pretty great, considering the genesis 2.0t weighs as much (if not more) than a WRX.

Crustashio
Jul 27, 2000

ruh roh

I've been pondering the idea of the "20%" reduction in the STi weight - is there even another affordable sporty car that is under 3000lb? All I can come up with is miata and cooper S.

Crustashio
Jul 27, 2000

ruh roh

Couldn't you also get the Cobalt in the "SS" trim but with a lovely NA motor?

Crustashio
Jul 27, 2000

ruh roh

iwentdoodie posted:

But it looks awesome. And I would buy a Cruze SS hatch if it was priced correctly.

Seriously, that is an amazing looking car to me.

What the gently caress GM.





You finally make a genuinely good looking hatchback, and won't bring it here? You couldn't pay me to own a coblalt, but throw the SS performance into that wagon and I'd seriously consider it.

Crustashio
Jul 27, 2000

ruh roh

I knew it would never be like the concept, but it just looks like they put wheel arches and some new lights on the 2011.

Crustashio
Jul 27, 2000

ruh roh

poo poo, I didn't think Subaru could make the old hatch look good, there they go.

Crustashio
Jul 27, 2000

ruh roh

bull3964 posted:

I'm not really sure how you can say this redesign looks boring but the current model does not.

Take away the flared fenders of the WRX/STI, and the current Impreza has all the styling of a slightly used bar of soap.

I'll take a bar of soap over a mini-minivan though.

The blue car shots look quite different though. More chevy optra 5 than toyota matrix in those.

Crustashio
Jul 27, 2000

ruh roh

Wait, I thought the next-gen subaru boxers were going to have DI? Or is that just the toyobaru?

Crustashio
Jul 27, 2000

ruh roh

BoostCreep posted:

Coupe:
The 3.8L V6 will most likely be getting direct injection, taking the engine from the current 306hp and 266 ft lbs. to 333hp and 291 ft lbs, and the 2.0L turbo will be getting the engine from the 2011 Sonata, which has direct injection as well and pumps 274hp and 269 ft lbs through a twin scroll turbo compared to the '11 model's 210/233 rating. That is a significant bump for what appears to be no big difference in price range. I feel bad for the poor saps that just bought the '11 models. Very reminiscent of the 2008 to 2009 WRX "265" fiasco.

I've been hearing the "sonata engine in new genesis" for awhile now, but 274hp in the genesis would have me giving it serious consideration. That would put it way below the MS3, WRX, and GTI for pricing. You don't get an LSD, but here the base genesis starts at 5k cheaper than the other 3. If the ft-86 is the same price as the genesis I don't see it doing that well.

Crustashio fucked around with this message at May 7, 2011 around 17:30

Crustashio
Jul 27, 2000

ruh roh

PT6A posted:

Funny, the Canadian market gets all variants with all transmissions (except the 2.0T GT, which is only available with the 6-speed), but we have different variants to begin with (base 2.0T, premium 2.0T, 2.0T GT, V6, V6 GT). It seems everything you want would be available with the 2.0T GT.

Yeah, Our 2.0GT gets the premium + GT stuff from the states, and we don't seem to have a track model. Of course, by the time you do that you're almost into base WRX territory. While it doesn't have the leather/sunroof, it is a hell of a lot more enticing than a 200hp motor in a 3400lb car. If they throw in the sonata motor I'd seriously consider getting a base 2.0 since I can live without an LSD, but otherwise I'd spend my money on the WRX.

Crustashio
Jul 27, 2000

ruh roh

Are they actually going to bother with the base abarth here? Everything I've seen so far seems to indicate the SS model is what is coming. If they price it a few thousand less than the cooper S (29k CAD with garbage options) I'd be seriously considering it.

I can see it selling a lot by being unique, since you can't throw a rock without hitting a Cooper S anymore.

Crustashio fucked around with this message at May 13, 2011 around 21:12

Crustashio
Jul 27, 2000

ruh roh

Autoblog posted a few shots of what they call the FR-S, but the comments point out that those are subaru wheels on it.





http://www.autoblog.com/photos/scion-fr-s-spy-shots/

Crustashio
Jul 27, 2000

ruh roh

Oh well, either way it looks surprisingly good camoed. Not as over the top as the concept.

Crustashio
Jul 27, 2000

ruh roh

Does it come with whistle tips as well?

(As much as I love a good BMW I6 sound, turbo fours can sound fantastic as well.)

Crustashio
Jul 27, 2000

ruh roh

Juke-R sounds way funnier than it should be.

Crustashio
Jul 27, 2000

ruh roh

Wait, the FT-86 is really going to be under 2000lb? With 200hp? How the hell do you accomplish that today. If it is true, I might seriously consider buying a new car...

Edit: Wait, do they mean a new scirocco or an old one? New one is 1300kg, which would put the FT-86 at 2400lb which seems a little more achieveable.

Crustashio fucked around with this message at Oct 20, 2011 around 21:14

Crustashio
Jul 27, 2000

ruh roh

Rhyno posted:

I think I'm going to trade in my speed6 towards this when it hits stateside.

If they can price the ST competively in the same way they price the mustang V6, I would be very open to buying a FWD turbo 5-door.

Crustashio
Jul 27, 2000

ruh roh

Cream_Filling posted:

The S2k retailed for almost $10k more new than the FT. I know it was designed 10 years ago and it's a convertible, but somehow I doubt that, even as a coupe, Toyota of all people will have somehow dropped weight on a slightly larger car with a similarly sized engine. I think the chances of the FT weighing significantly less than the S2k are quite slim.

I mean look at this commparison:


Also, according to some random dude on the internet, the FT is much smaller than the Genesis Coupe, and comparing the two on anything other than price is difficult:


This really just makes me want the FRS even more as a summer/track car. The 2.0 GC is big and pretty bland to drive.

Crustashio
Jul 27, 2000

ruh roh

Muffinpox posted:

Porsche unveiled the most important part of the new 911:


I really want to try that out.

It's been known for awhile now. Autoblog talked about the details of how it will work today. 7th gear is locked out until you engage 5th or 6th, just so you don't accidently go from 4th to 7th.

Crustashio
Jul 27, 2000

ruh roh

http://www.autoblog.com/2011/11/14/...5-hp-turbo-four

Looks likr the genesis is getting the sonata 2.0t motor after all, and the v6 is getting a big jump in power to match. If they can keep the same price points (25k CAD for the base 2.0) it will help me forget about the ft-86 for a little while.

Crustashio fucked around with this message at Nov 14, 2011 around 14:59

Crustashio
Jul 27, 2000

ruh roh

Mr. Apollo posted:

It's an evolution of the Essence concept , but it's probably the narrower tail lights.


Yeah, it's a CAD rendering and they don't show perspective very well.

It looks like they have it set to show no perspective which is usually how you work because having it on in CAD programs while working is

Crustashio
Jul 27, 2000

ruh roh

skipdogg posted:

I'm almost positive the ST does NOT have it like the Euro RS Focus. I remember reading it somewhere on a different forum. There was also some bitching about it not having a true LSD maybe? It uses the brakes or something to compensate? I'll try to dig around and find the info.

edit: found an article

http://blogs.insideline.com/straigh...d-focus-st.html

Aren't true LSDs being dropped in favour of brake-based torque vectoring? I know the GTI uses that as opposed to a real LSD.

Crustashio
Jul 27, 2000

ruh roh

KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:

No.

Jalopnik can be less terrible but there's always a whole lot of whining about too heavy not diesel sport rwd wagon abloo abloo.

Jalopnik probably has the highest concentration of enthusiasts, but the signal to noise ratio is still pretty awful. Their comments section is like getting slapped across the face, whereas something like autoblog is a full on kick to the groin.

Crustashio
Jul 27, 2000

ruh roh

travisray2004 posted:

Apparently BMW is going to alter their model lineup to odd series signifying sedans and even series signifying coupe and verts. Talk about clusterfuck.

Haven't people been harping on about this for at least 10 years?

Crustashio
Jul 27, 2000

ruh roh

KozmoNaut posted:

6.5 seconds 0-60 is slow for a hot hatch?

The GTI falls into (or above) MS3/WRX pricing in canada so yeah, I'd consider it low on power. I really wasn't impressed when I drove the Mk6 GTI during one of those VW driving events.

Crustashio
Jul 27, 2000

ruh roh

loving squircle taillights. They just don't look good.

Crustashio
Jul 27, 2000

ruh roh

awesome-express posted:

Hmm, that droopy door sure does make it look like a Chinese knock off in those phone pics, but I doesn't look bad from these angles.





Makes it look organic/muscular. I remember reading an article written by Bangle where he emphasized the importance of defining certain animalistic physical resemblances on cars. That's why the 1 series had that funky rocker panel/side skirt thing. Man I feel like a Chrysler spokesperson right now

You just blew my mind, I finally understand where the saggy doors came from.

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Crustashio
Jul 27, 2000

ruh roh

DropShadow posted:

Except for $4-6k labor costs when your timing chain guides wear and require the engine to be pulled.



I've used that image to convince a few people a used V8 S4 is a terrible idea. It is mind boggling that they'd do that kind of design. That's 1st year rookie level bullshit.

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