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resurgam40
Jul 22, 2007
Still dancing, still singing, and still surprised by joy.

protocultured posted:

I can't be the only one who thinks she's a little undeserving of a power up. "you eventually did the right thing, have some OP magic". Really hoping she doesn't get awarded S class status in addition to this.

I... have to agree with this. Her and her backstory are just so flagrantly stupid from my perspective. I'm sorry, maybe her entire situation makes more sense from a Japanese perspective, but good lord, from the amount of angsting she put in, I was thinking she was dying or something. That at least would partially justify leaving Lucy in the lurch. But she just repents her actions and gets a power-up? Come on.

I had thought that I had become immune to this, after so many years of reading shounen. If she at least gets taken to task for her actions, I suppose I can live with it.

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Ice Blue
Mar 20, 2002

Sorry, I get paid to shoot paintballs, honey, not the breeze.

Was she even aware of the poo poo going down? I thought she thought the test was still going as planned.

Meme Emulator
Oct 4, 2000



resurgam40 posted:

I... have to agree with this. Her and her backstory are just so flagrantly stupid from my perspective. I'm sorry, maybe her entire situation makes more sense from a Japanese perspective, but good lord, from the amount of angsting she put in, I was thinking she was dying or something. That at least would partially justify leaving Lucy in the lurch. But she just repents her actions and gets a power-up? Come on.

Im all for Kana getting a power up. I always liked the fast clip at which this story moved, so if giving Kana a power up for the dumbest reason is the reason why she gets The Ultimate Power, well, whatever. We will be in a new arc in like 10 chapters. Use your cards more next time arughghghgh

Serious Frolicking
Jul 1, 2007
Awkward phrasing, for the most part.


Ice Blue posted:

Was she even aware of the poo poo going down? I thought she thought the test was still going as planned.

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/fairy...v25/c225/3.html

She knew it was the 7 kin of purgatory. She knew they were after Zeref, who was on the island.

Really, the problem is that Kana has plot-mandated stupidity. Mashima couldn't figure out a way to get her to the grave alone without making her functionally retarded. During the Luxus arc, Kana needed to lose her fight off-panel because more important characters needed more time. I'm sort of curious why this arc is centered on Kana when Mashima doesn't appear to give two shits about her.

Stupid Boob
Feb 14, 2010


Serious Frolicking posted:

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/fairy...v25/c225/3.html

She knew it was the 7 kin of purgatory. She knew they were after Zeref, who was on the island.

Really, the problem is that Kana has plot-mandated stupidity. Mashima couldn't figure out a way to get her to the grave alone without making her functionally retarded. During the Luxus arc, Kana needed to lose her fight off-panel because more important characters needed more time. I'm sort of curious why this arc is centered on Kana when Mashima doesn't appear to give two shits about her.

Well, we have a redhead with big tits and a blonde with big tits. Kana fills a much needed role in the story.

tsob
Sep 26, 2006

Chalalala~


Meme Emulator posted:

I always wanted to like Cana because I like card stuff and card based stuff (Id like to see Basil Hawkins tarot in One Piece again for example) but dang if all they ever show is her getting drunk and crying.

I did like Cana. Until now. She was a cool background character with an interesting magic, at least on paper - since we never saw much of it in reality. And she got drunk and was fun. That's all I was really looking for, and she was good for that. I think this revelation may have ruined her a bit sadly.

Serious Frolicking posted:

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/fairy...v25/c225/3.html

She knew it was the 7 kin of purgatory. She knew they were after Zeref, who was on the island.

Really, the problem is that Kana has plot-mandated stupidity. Mashima couldn't figure out a way to get her to the grave alone without making her functionally retarded.

It's not just that though. Her reason for abondoning Lucy isn't the only stupid thing, her actual backstory makes her out to be a totally stupid person as well. And her reason for wanting to leave the guild. She's put up with being a passing acquaintance to her dad for 10 years or so - why would she abandon something she loves and all her friends now because of a self imposed restriction? Everything about her revealed this arc is just plain bad.

Ah well, as you say, it'll be done in a few weeks and nothing about her will probably ever come up again so I'll forget about it soon enough most likely. It's not like this is the first bad piece of writing in the manga or anything Gerard.

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

The Pink Warrior should just shut up!


Stupid Boob posted:

Well, we have a redhead with big tits and a blonde with big tits. Kana fills a much needed role in the story.

This is an excellent post/name combination!

Adding to the chorus of people who are generally disappointed with Kana. It's like if you took a minor background character who we have no attachment to and suddenly made her the focus of Big Serious Business. We have no investment in this situation at all. It's pretty terrible!

attackbunny
May 1, 2009


So what exactly does Gildartz think happened to his kid? Did he forget he had one?

Fuzzy Pipe Wrench
Nov 5, 2008

Remember me, Pilate? When Judas killed me?! I talked just...like...THIIIIIIIIIIISS!!

attackbunny posted:

So what exactly does Gildartz think happened to his kid? Did he forget he had one?

It's pretty obvious really.
vvvvv

Serious Frolicking posted:


I bet that Kana looks exactly like her mother, and Gildarts either already figured it out on his own or will do so by the end of the arc. Just look at Lucy- spitting image of her mother.

Serious Frolicking
Jul 1, 2007
Awkward phrasing, for the most part.


New chapter: http://mangastream.com/read/fairy_tail/64910954/1

Oh god, I'm dying here. After all that build up, Kana remains completely useless.

The Fresh Prince
Dec 9, 2009

#25 Barry Bongs


Serious Frolicking posted:

New chapter: http://mangastream.com/read/fairy_tail/64910954/1

Oh god, I'm dying here. After all that build up, Kana remains completely useless.

lmao

ChronoReverse
Oct 1, 2009


Yeah, I think LMAO is the only way to respond to this. I bet the author was perfectly aware of all our complaints and was just trolling us.

Anyway, someone I like better shows up

bondster
May 6, 2007

This "New Era" they talk about is shit. An age where pirates dream is over? Eh? PEOPLE'S DREAMS NEVER DIE!


THANK GOD, I was gonna be really angry if Cana went around with a powerful magic defeating people much stronger than her using plot magic

Centzon Totochtin
Jan 2, 2009


Better late than never I guess Guildarts

Nahxela
Oct 11, 2008

Execution


bondster posted:

THANK GOD, I was gonna be really angry if Cana went around with a powerful magic defeating people much stronger than her using plot magic

Yeah, likewise. In any case, we get to see him do something real
Can't wait to see him in action.

Nilbop
Jun 5, 2004

Looks like someone forgot his hardhat...


All I can think of is that scene from The Simpsons:

"Stop!! This scene has gone on just long enough!"

Although in his defence Gildarts looks like he just ran across half the planet to smack the poo poo out of whoever was threatening his daughter, so he's cool.

Sindai
Jan 24, 2007
i want to achieve immortality through not dying

FINA

loving

LY


Thoren
May 28, 2008


poo poo is about to go DOWN

Angry Grimace
Jul 29, 2010


So to summarize, Cana scales Mt. Ordeals and receives Meteo from the talking light thing, only to find she doesn't have enough MP to cast it

hog wizard
Feb 16, 2005

by angerbeet


Where did Gildartz go in the first place?

LightWarden
Mar 18, 2007


He headed back with some of the others who didn't make it through the first round, such as Fried.

LightWarden fucked around with this message at May 10, 2011 around 06:30

Nilbop
Jun 5, 2004

Looks like someone forgot his hardhat...


hog wizard posted:

Where did Gildartz go in the first place?

Away! Far from here, to another place! Where other things happen and live and grow old!

Some Numbers
Sep 28, 2006

When you're a priest, sometimes you've got to raise a little hell.

Oh good, that stupid subplot is over. Now the important characters can take the spotlight back.

Oh and Gildartz clearly already knows she's his kid.

ilifinicus
Mar 7, 2004



I am going to be very naive and not expect shounen to be shounen and hope Gildarts is jealous and mad because SHE got to have Fairy Glitter and not him and thus continue to rain on her parade even further

this will of course not be the case because this is shounen BUT I BELIEVE

alkanphel
Mar 24, 2004



Thoren posted:

poo poo is about to go DOWN
Hell yeah I've been waiting for this moment.Now we can finally get to see what Gildartz is capable of doing, besides the cute stuff he did to Natsu.

jaydee864
Aug 15, 2010

Life is such a drag when the whole world's falling apart


ilifin posted:

I am going to be very naive and not expect shounen to be shounen and hope Gildarts is jealous and mad because SHE got to have Fairy Glitter and not him and thus continue to rain on her parade even further

this will of course not be the case because this is shounen BUT I BELIEVE

Gildartz wasn't in the running for S-Class mage this time because he's been one for years. I'm pretty sure Mashima will let each of the S-Class mages retroactively possess the spell for Fairy Glitter, if not the ability to use it practically in a combat situation, since that seems to be the "reward" for becoming an S-Class.

Also, on a different note, this should always be what happens when a side character ignores their defining characteristic and tries to be plot-relevant. If Cana had been drunk and/or drinking this whole time, things might have turned out better for her.

Serious Frolicking
Jul 1, 2007
Awkward phrasing, for the most part.


Kana's defining trait isn't being a drunk, it is being a background character.

CORN NOG
Sep 25, 2003



While I am glad that Cana remains useless, I don't want to let myself get too excited to see Gildartz fight. There's still a good chance that we'll get about two panels of it before the chapter cuts away to some Lucy or Ezra fanservice and the battle goes down off-panel.

ChronoReverse
Oct 1, 2009


DontDateRobots! posted:

While I am glad that Cana remains useless, I don't want to let myself get too excited to see Gildartz fight. There's still a good chance that we'll get about two panels of it before the chapter cuts away to some Lucy or Ezra fanservice and the battle goes down off-panel.

That would kinda be awesome if it happened literally and there's a 2 page purely fanservice spread of Erza and Lucy in swimsuits before showing the end result the next page.

Ice Blue
Mar 20, 2002

Sorry, I get paid to shoot paintballs, honey, not the breeze.

http://somemanga.com/manga/Fairy_Tail/234/

Man I'm really annoyed at how stupid/douchey the Bluenote's face is. I don't know why. Also, I wish the manga wasn't so jumpy and disjointed. The Urtear poo poo is pretty interesting but we've not gotten word on it since the last cliffhanger with her and Gray. We keep expecting something to be resolved but then it happens off panel. Bullshit.

Ice Blue fucked around with this message at May 16, 2011 around 20:25

Nilbop
Jun 5, 2004

Looks like someone forgot his hardhat...


Bluenote is cool, you crazy. The worst of the badguy designs by far was the other guy this chapter, just because he's so dull and incredibly cliche. Mashima tried something new with Bluenote, I like that. I liked this chapter all around actually.


They named a dragon Belfast what the heck

Ice Blue
Mar 20, 2002

Sorry, I get paid to shoot paintballs, honey, not the breeze.

I find his ability to be the least interesting of the Seven Kin. Gravity control and basic telekinesis? Sorry Naruto already did that and Pain was much more interesting a character. It's so cliche at this point to make gravity control the MOST POWERFUL guy in the enemy's group.

Bluenote is just power hungry and has no personality and just has a douchey looking face.

Nilbop
Jun 5, 2004

Looks like someone forgot his hardhat...


You can't seriously be complaining about uninspired powers when one guy's is "fire" and another's is "better fire"? Bluenote didn't get his station due to his power, he got it through ruthlessness and being a motherfucker, Hades comes out and says this. Besides, Pain was a multi-arc main villain. Bluenote is just a side-boss.

But I mean anyway I'll not argue over it anymore, I just think it's a weird thing to throw out there.

Ice Blue
Mar 20, 2002

Sorry, I get paid to shoot paintballs, honey, not the breeze.

Yeah that guy's power is dumb, too. The other guys' are more interesting. One thing that was at least useful about the God Flame dude is it illustrated the difference between Grimoire Heart and Fairy Tail. They basically got insane power by selling their soul to the devil while Natsu's power is more natural. That's why I didn't mind that battle. Yeah it was just more powerful fire but Natsu used the power of friendship and anger to overcome it using his instincts. It's dumb but it serves the story well enough that I can look past it.

Gravity in general is just uninspired. It's not interesting to watch in battle and it's just overpowered, especially when all he has to do is push people away so they can't do anything. It's not interesting to watch.

Ice Blue fucked around with this message at May 16, 2011 around 22:14

Centzon Totochtin
Jan 2, 2009


I'm ok with dumb or uninspired powers/magic,but I'm more worried about all the simultaneous fights/subplots going on that are diluting the story's focus (3 fights, the Gray/Ultear business, the new child from the last page, Kana's daddy issues, and I guess maybe that guy from the council. I'm not saying have a layered or complicated story is bad, it's just not great for the narrative sometimes.

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

The Pink Warrior should just shut up!


Fried (or was it Bixlowe?? The magic writing guy) has an amazing looking outfit. He looks like an anime-ified Iron Man! So cool!!

Aside from that... yeah... pretty much Fairy Tail as usual.

DrSunshine fucked around with this message at May 16, 2011 around 23:46

Nilbop
Jun 5, 2004

Looks like someone forgot his hardhat...


Maybe spoiler that, but yeah it was Fried.

The Fresh Prince
Dec 9, 2009

#25 Barry Bongs


That kid at the end looked like zeref with natsu's clothes.

Serious Frolicking
Jul 1, 2007
Awkward phrasing, for the most part.


I can tell you exactly who that kid is. He is another one of Gildarts' illegitimate children.

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Pawl
Sep 9, 2006


It looked like a flashback to Gildarts' youth to me.

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