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Van Dis posted:This forum has terrible taste but here goes nothing.
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post-feminist rimjob posted:This may not be exactly what you're looking for, but have you tried A Song of Fire and Ice by George R. R. Martin? Zoccoli posted:I can think of nothing more appropriate for a long bike trip than Up In The Air by Walter Kim.
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May 19, 2010 23:51
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Van Dis posted:This forum has terrible taste but here goes nothing. It's probably not a good idea to read a book (or for that matter, post on an internet forum) while cycling. Want a suggestion? How about you keep your eyes on the road.
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May 20, 2010 00:02
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Van Dis posted:This forum has terrible taste but here goes nothing. I think it only appears that way. What people are going to discuss on an internet forum they use for recreation is going to give a skewed impression, because who the hell wants to talk about the poo poo they read in lit class when they get home?
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May 20, 2010 07:27
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Van Dis posted:I'll pick that up and give it a shot. Thanks gentle goon. TBB is currently doing a re-read of all of GRRM's stuff. Check out the thread to read along with the forum goons!
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May 20, 2010 08:03
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Or don't. Either one.
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May 20, 2010 10:58
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Van Dis posted:This forum has terrible taste but here goes nothing. Jesus, talk about a way of alienating the very people from whom you are asking for suggestions. Let's all tar everyone with the same brush, shall we? Done being all venty-venty? Good. You're lucky I'm a forgiving man with a heart of gold etc etc. Mason & Dixon by Thomas Pynchon for your Pennsylvania portions. Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil. (author forgotten). I am sure that there are oodles of NYC books. I can't think of that many right now, though.
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May 20, 2010 11:24
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Van Dis posted:I am ... on my way through ... New York, ... A bit on the older side (1900), and it deals with many places you have not listed: you could try Sister Carrie by Theodore Dreiser. A sizable amount of the 'drama' happens in NY. It just popped into my mind, thought I'd suggest it if you haven't found anything else.
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May 20, 2010 12:53
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LooseChanj posted:I think it only appears that way. What people are going to discuss on an internet forum they use for recreation is going to give a skewed impression, because who the hell wants to talk about the poo poo they read in lit class when they get home? many readers of literature do so outside of an institutional setting in which they are forced to read good writing in exchange for a paper they believe will get them money and social standing. many of these readers have even graduated from college and are no longer in any sort of academic institution at all (I went to college.). (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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May 20, 2010 14:30
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maxnmona posted:many readers of literature do so outside of an institutional setting in which they are forced to read good writing in exchange for a paper they believe will get them money and social standing. many of these readers have even graduated from college and are no longer in any sort of academic institution at all (I went to college.). Actually, literally no one would read anything other than fantasy & sci-fi if given the choice.
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May 20, 2010 16:29
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LooseChanj posted:I think it only appears that way. What people are going to discuss on an internet forum they use for recreation is going to give a skewed impression, because who the hell wants to talk about the poo poo they read in lit class when they get home? I think probably for the same reason I don't base all my interactions with women around visualising our coitus.
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May 20, 2010 18:16
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therattle posted:Mason & Dixon by Thomas Pynchon for your Pennsylvania portions. Anamnesis posted:A bit on the older side (1900), and it deals with many places you have not listed: you could try Sister Carrie by Theodore Dreiser. A sizable amount of the 'drama' happens in NY. It just popped into my mind, thought I'd suggest it if you haven't found anything else. I think a requirement to be a mod of a book forum is to actually enjoy reading books that aren't directed solely at teenagers or assigned by a teacher, but maybe that's crazy!
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May 20, 2010 18:21
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Lolita is one of the classic American roadtrip novels. Since you like Bryson anyway, and you're passing through Des Moines, you might try his relatively recent memoir about his childhood there. It's not as funny as his travel stuff, but I liked it.
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Van Dis posted:This forum has terrible taste but here goes nothing. Why are you asking for recommendations in this forum if you hate it so much? I mean I don't like all of the same scifi stuff that most TBB folk do either, but really, there are plenty of other online communities where people talk about all kinds of other books... so what's the point of coming to whine with this exaggerated goony nonsense? Anyway here are some recommendations: Blue Highways by William Least-Heat Moon is a really good travel book covering several areas of the country, you might especially find the parts about the South and the Appalachian states good reading. For NYC: Paul Auster's New York Trilogy, Tom Folsom's The Mad Ones, John Wray's Lowboy, Richard Price's Bloodbrothers. Earwicker fucked around with this message at 19:04 on May 20, 2010 |
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Van Dis posted:This forum has terrible taste but here goes nothing. Try anything by Edmund White, Larry Kramer, Andrew Holleran, or David Leavitt to name just a few American authors.
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May 20, 2010 19:25
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LooseChanj posted:I think it only appears that way. What people are going to discuss on an internet forum they use for recreation is going to give a skewed impression, because who the hell wants to talk about the poo poo they read in lit class when they get home? Literally anyone who actually gives a poo poo about their area of interest?
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May 21, 2010 01:53
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LooseChanj posted:I think it only appears that way. What people are going to discuss on an internet forum they use for recreation is going to give a skewed impression, because who the hell wants to talk about the poo poo they read in lit class when they get home? It only appears that way.
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May 21, 2010 02:33
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Why in hell are there TWO (2) grrm threads on the first page.
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May 21, 2010 03:52
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One is the old thread full of jerks who love to spoil new readers. The other one is a spoiler-free thread to entice new readers to try out the books and for some of us to re-read. We're following a schedule so we can talk about the books as we read through them.
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To try and get people to read poo poo. poo poo shoveling if you will. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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jmaze posted:One is the old thread full of jerks who love to spoil new readers. The other one is a spoiler-free thread to entice new readers to try out the books and for some of us to re-read. We're following a schedule so we can talk about the books as we read through them. Its loving retarded to have two threads for the same series, both of which have multiple pages. This isn't games or something, christery. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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But, is two threads enough? Could I post another GRRM thread with a specific focus on linguistic analysis and hermeneutics? Or would it be gassed due to Superfluence? Thanks in advance.
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Dub Mapocho posted:But, is two threads enough? Could I post another GRRM thread with a specific focus on linguistic analysis and hermeneutics? Or would it be gassed due to Superfluence? Thanks in advance. Indeed, a multiplicity of threads is necessary for investigation of the ASOIAF sequence by George RR Martin in its aspect of text-as-intertext.
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What the hell? McMurphy has a pretty valid point - having two threads for one book series, one just to "entice people" to read it seems pretty ridiculous.
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Earwicker posted:What the hell? McMurphy has a pretty valid point - having two threads for one book series, one just to "entice people" to read it seems pretty ridiculous. The primary objective of this forum is actually GRRM evangelism. Please respect our cultural mores.
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Earwicker posted:What the hell? McMurphy has a pretty valid point - having two threads for one book series, one just to "entice people" to read it seems pretty ridiculous. Reported for mod-sass. *blows smoke off page-turning finger*
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BABY FlNLAND posted:The primary objective of this forum is actually GRRM evangelism. Please respect our cultural mores. Hey Fuckshit: please do NOT troll The Book Barn. THanks.
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post-feminist rimjob posted:Hey Fuckshit: please do NOT troll The Book Barn. THanks. *drops your books to the floor*
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May 21, 2010 17:01
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One is filled with spoilers, and one isn't. The one that isn't is for new readers so they can discuss the books while reading them instead of having to avoid the cesspit that is the old thread. I don't see why this is a problem.
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jmaze posted:One is filled with spoilers, and one isn't. The one that isn't is for new readers so they can discuss the books while reading them instead of having to avoid the cesspit that is the old thread. I don't see why this is a problem. But isn't that the very exact reason there's this stuff?
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barkingclam posted:But isn't that the very exact reason there's this stuff? The old thread is filled with people who intentionally spoil new readers. Changing that thread at this point would be impossible. A new one has been created that will ban people who post spoilers.
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May 21, 2010 17:34
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I'd dispute the idea that books can be 'spoiled'. The notion of 'spoiling' i a relic of the pre-post-modern age when texts where assumed to have a single 'meaning' imparted by 'the' Author. The Book Barn needs to develop new paradigms informed by current theory. imo
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Dub Mapocho posted:I'd dispute the idea that books can be 'spoiled'. The notion of 'spoiling' i a relic of the pre-post-modern age when texts where assumed to have a single 'meaning' imparted by 'the' Author. The Book Barn needs to develop new paradigms informed by current theory. imo "Spoiling" imposes a linear revelation sequence upon the narrative, intentionally restricting the freedom of the reader to consider the phenomena-qua-novel in alternative sequences, permitting a contrapuntal reading of the novel - indeed, mapping the novel to the psychogeography of the culture at large.
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Hey! Book Barn! Let's Develop a Rhizomatic Model Of Plotting And Narrative! Then nobody will have to worry about spoilers
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May 21, 2010 18:04
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Do you ever wish you could sleep on your stomach?
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Daniel J. Geduld posted:Do you ever wish you could sleep on your stomach? Yes, actually. Yes I do.
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Dub Mapocho posted:Hey! Book Barn! Let's Develop a Rhizomatic Model Of Plotting And Narrative! Then nobody will have to worry about spoilers In a Derridean reading of A Song of Fire and Ice, the primary objective of the reader (or "lecteur") of George R. R. Martin is to acknowledge the extent to which R. R. Martin's opus can be viewed a multitude of different ways, depending on how the "reader" ("lecteur") interprets the cultural signifiers evoked by the novel, as well as the subsequent assumptions within not only the mind of the novel's "author" ("auteur")("George R. R. Martin"), but also in the "reader" ("lecteur") themself[ves]. Contextually, none of these interpretations can be materially proven to be any more or less correct than any other. The only material fact that we can establish conclusively is that while George R. R. Martin's work purports to be "about" "a dynastic civil war for control of Westeros between several competing families," when properly read in the context of the deconstructive literary tradition spanning from the mid 20th century post-colonial scholarship to modern-day counterimperialistic/maoist third-worldist blogging, the novel can be best understood as being "about" the unknowing participation of bourgeois hierarchical assumptions which are complicit in the exploitation of the Third World.
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An interesting reading, but in my opinion an incomplete one. The 'dynastic war' narrative of A Song of Ice and Fire is a fairly obvious metaphor for an extended discussion of 'gender' dynamics in antecedent and contemporary societies and the evolution of normative gender traits, with subsequent 'novels' in the series taking in some elements of queer and trans theory. However, we must be careful to not fall to the fallacy of ascribing primacy to the 'Author'-imposed 'theological' tyranny. This masterwork is instead best understood as a turgid and uninspired narrative about a gay world that doesn't even exist.
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Dub Mapocho posted:...normative gender traits... Dub Mapocho posted:...queer and trans theory... Dub Mapocho posted:...gay... Dub Mapocho posted:...turgid... Case notes: Patient's language, as well as fixation on slides 17 and 32 ("nectarine cross-section," "rear trunk assembly") plainly evident -- powerful manifestations of erotic fantasies of an anal-sadistic type? Patient is noted to be parsimonious, obstinate, hoarding, and perfectionistic. Rec. further therapeutic monitoring.
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