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DEAR RICHARD
Feb 5, 2009

IT'S TIME FOR MY TOOLS


First of all, watch this poo poo and take notes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrlNyhnw0Io

This thread is for things that get wet in water and stuff. No, don't post post pictures of your Miata driving through a 2 foot puddle. That is not manly. Post poo poo that is at home in the 7 seas or something.

I bet you're like "but The A-Team Van, this is my car forum, please stop talking about boats post haste." Well, guy, gently caress you. Here's a carboat...boatcar

DUKW

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DUKW

Happy now? That is badass. Let's talk about AI poo poo now. AQUATIC INSANITY poo poo SON

This right here is pretty much the SR-71 of the water world, because...just look at it

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_Shadow

For reference: 1 mph = 0.868976242 knots

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VikingSkull
Jul 23, 2008

A problem has been detected and windows has been shutdown to prevent damage to your computer.

is shaft horsepower different too

Preoptopus
Aug 25, 2008


If I ever have hundreds of millions of dollars to spend on a boat. It will be only on this.




Comes with a submarine.


Maltese Falcon

Two Finger
Aug 4, 2007


This is what I did my first seatime on:


And this is a camless diesel engine I was shown in class a few days ago:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4anPYRRHhY

Boats loving rule.

giundy
Dec 10, 2005


Can't stop me from going big baby!

Phy
Jun 27, 2008

ZWAP ZWAP ZWAP


Preoptopus posted:



Fuuuuuck

We liked a boat so much we put it on our money, all of our other coins have animals on 'em



This boat:


Bluenose

ab0z
Jun 28, 2008

by angerbotSD


Preoptopus posted:

If I ever have hundreds of millions of dollars to spend on a boat. It will be only on this.

Maltese Falcon

Seriously. That boat is completely amazing and I would easily give up a residence on land to live on it.

-Spiffy-
Jul 30, 2003

noice

Isn't it worth more than most small nations?

ab0z
Jun 28, 2008

by angerbotSD


-Spiffy- posted:

Isn't it worth more than most small nations?

Worth and cost are not the same thing. Both may be true though.

ApathyGifted
Aug 30, 2004
Tomorrow?

Anyone remember the Wallypower 118? It looked like a Bond villian's stealth yacht, and the 118 stood for the length... 118 feet.

Well, Wally's got a concept for the 85m Wallypower. m as in meters, of course.

Click here for the full 800x508 image.

-Spiffy-
Jul 30, 2003

noice

ab0z posted:

Worth and cost are not the same thing. Both may be true though.

I will concede that. It cost less than England but I'd take the boat.

Fayez Butts
Aug 24, 2006


I dunno, I'm a bit partial to this Wally yacht right now:




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bl4sbM_O_WA

Lord Yod
Jul 22, 2009



The America's Cup is back in America, and this is the boat that won it:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USA_17_(yacht)

quote:

very light for its size being constructed almost entirely out of carbon fiber and epoxy resin, and exhibits very high performance being able to sail at 2.0 to 2.5 times the true wind speed

quote:

On November 8, 2009, the team announced that a rigid sail wing had been built for the yacht.[12] The wing was initially 190 feet (58 m) tall and some 80 percent larger than the wing of a Boeing 747 airplane; it was later extended to 223 feet (68 m).[13] The wing has a very high aspect ratio, meaning that it is very tall and narrow. It can change camber to adjust lift in order to optimize performance. The wing consists of two main elements, separated by a vertical slot through which air can flow. The rear element is made up of several separate sections, whose angle can be adjusted separately, much like the flaps on an airplane's wing. Thus the lift of the sail can be controlled very finely, both overall, and for each section.






quote:

On February 14, 2010, USA also won the second race, and thus the America's Cup, again by a considerable margin. USA was ahead by 0:24 at the start, by 0:28 at the windward mark, by 2:44 at the gybe mark, and by over 4 minutes at the finish. Its official finish time was 5:26 ahead of the defender because Alinghi had to perform a penalty turn, having entered the pre-start area too soon.[19]
Winds were 6 to 9 knots. USA reached the windward mark in 59 minutes, so its velocity made good was about 13.2 knots, about 1.65 times wind speed. The course was a triangle, so the velocity made good downwind was only 11.5 knots, about 1.4 times wind speed. USA averaged 26.8 knots, about 3.35 times the wind speed, on the faster first triangular leg

I grew up racing sailboats and cannot seriously imagine going 26 knots in one.

bidikyoopi
Jan 2, 2008

poop ship
destroyer


Lord Yod posted:


I grew up racing sailboats and cannot seriously imagine going 26 knots in one.

Same. It's pretty ridiculous what the Oracle can do. I saw it in Gloucester MA last summer, it's ridiculously huge next to 100' masts of the other yachts in Glou Harbor.

My dream boat, the Dufour 405

Click here for the full 750x542 image.

If I ever become a millionaire, it'll be hard to choose between a Koenigsegg CCX and this. Maybe both...

TheFrailNinja
Jun 28, 2008


Wow, I had no idea we had such awesome sailboats. I did an 3-week Outward Bound sailing course in July 2008. I had no idea what I was missing, I always thought sailing was kind of silly, but boy was I wrong. The boats we used were comically slow, but still pretty awesome.






I have since only been sailing about two times. I want to go back up to Maine and work as a deckhand on some fine schooner...

Blackmage Yapo
Mar 27, 2008

Odin You Sad I Have
All The SPP


I learned to sail on one of these bad boys:

Hobie 16

We used to have a Catalina 25 too, but got rid of it. All I'm left with now is my poor AMF Minifish.

sharkytm
Oct 9, 2003

Gimme Gimme Swedish Fish...

Ooh, a thread I can get behind. I'm an oceanographer, which gives me the opportunity to go to sea on a bunch of different boats, most of them fishing vessels, ranging from 30' to 110'...
I'll gather some pictures and return.

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.


Jumping out of a perfectly good airplane is for sissies.



Driving a 28 ton armored personnel carrier off the back of a perfectly good ship?
That's hard Corps.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amphibious_Assault_Vehicle

joat mon fucked around with this message at Mar 12, 2010 around 17:54

skinner
Oct 22, 2003



Here are the two boats I work on, the Lionel Plante Sr. and the Ft. Gaines. We transport mostly commercial vehicles to various islands in southern Maine but occasionally to places farther north and south.


The LPS was designed and built specifically for our company and is ideal for what we do. There aren't many places we can't land this. It only needs about 3 feet of water to safely operate. It's about 80ft, powered by two Cat diesels and can squeeze a lot of trucks on its deck. We're able to fit 18-wheelers as well and do quite frequently.




We're taking junk cars off of an island here. We do this a few times a year and it always seems like we take off more cars than we've ever brought. It's fun though. If the car doesn't run you push it down the hill and hope the brakes don't give out. To get the cars off we either push a train of cars with one that runs or hook them to a wrecker.


The Ft. Gaines is a massive boat. It was originally a car ferry in the Outer Banks of North Carolina. Now it hauls dump trucks. A lot of them. It's powered by three Detroits and the steering and throttle are both pneumatic, which takes a bit of getting used to. The last picture in this post is from a trip down to the Isles of Shoals. They're about 50 miles from our base but it's an eight hour one way trip in this boat as its top speed is 5.5-6 knots.




sandoz
Jan 29, 2009


VikingSkull posted:

is shaft horsepower different too

SHP is the marine equivalent of WHP. Literally the power delivered to the propeller, or waterjet, or what have you.

Content:


Click here for the full 1500x1999 image.

sandoz fucked around with this message at Mar 12, 2010 around 19:33

sandoz
Jan 29, 2009


Lord Yod posted:

sail at 2.0 to 2.5 times the true wind speed

Eh.

not black enough
Oct 14, 2004



Lord Yod posted:

The America's Cup is back in America, and this is the boat that won it:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USA_17_(yacht)









I grew up racing sailboats and cannot seriously imagine going 26 knots in one.

How is it possible to sail faster than the wind?

sandoz
Jan 29, 2009


skinner posted:

It's powered by three Detroits

1271's? I'm curious about the drive arrangement on that boat. The car ferries we built for Shelter Island in the 70's have a single shaft running through the center of the boat, with a prop and rudder at each end. The engine sits on a floating tensioner next to the shaft, and turns it with some sort of belt drive system.



Good to see that bilge alarm panels haven't changed in the last 30 years!

sandoz
Jan 29, 2009


not black enough posted:

How is it possible to sail faster than the wind?

The magic of vectors.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apparent_wind

skinner
Oct 22, 2003



sandoz posted:

1271's? I'm curious about the drive arrangement on that boat. The car ferries we built for Shelter Island in the 70's have a single shaft running through the center of the boat, with a prop and rudder at each end. The engine sits on a floating tensioner next to the shaft, and turns it with some sort of belt drive system.



Good to see that bilge alarm panels haven't changed in the last 30 years!


Not sure of the engine model of these, but it's just one engine per shaft so there's three props at the stern. I haven't spent too much time in the engine room, though.

dev/null
Dec 7, 2004

This custom title is not tax-deductible

Lord Yod posted:

I grew up racing sailboats and cannot seriously imagine going 26 knots in one.

Well, try imagine sailing l'Hydroptère then.


quote:

In November 2009, Hydroptère broke the 50 knot barrier for a nautical mile with a speed of 50.17 kts at Hyeres, France.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%27Hydropt%C3%A8re

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFGS7YCDk3Y

drzrma
Dec 29, 2008


This is a Moth:



It's slowly evolved from a fairly conventional looking sailing dinghy to a minimalist speed machine. It's got only what it needs to have to be a boat, and absolutely nothing more.

They'll foil in about six knots of wind with if the driver is light and knows what they are doing, and I think the top recorded speed is in the 25 knot range. They're a little odd to be around because once they foil they're almost completely silent moving through the water, until the daggerboard hangs up on a big piece of kelp, then you get a lot of splashing and profanity.

Quite a few youtube videos, some of boats being passed like they aren't moving, and a number of demonstrations of their amazing lack of stability when standing still. Apparently they are somewhat tricky to learn to sail, and sadly there isn't really a used market for them in the US yet. Hopefully that will change soon and I'll be able to afford one, right now the cheapest new ones are in the $8-$10k range.

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007


The Riva Aquarama:



I don't care how big or expensive your yacht is. I don't care how fast your carbon-kevlar speedboat is. Somewhere in the Mediterranean, a man wearing Persol sunglasses is at the helm of one of these, and as long as that's true, you've lost.

Hermansen
Sep 2, 2006

Breaker, Breaker,
High Ball, Ten Ten,
Till We Do It Again,
Captain Slow.


InitialDave posted:

The Riva Aquarama:



I don't care how big or expensive your yacht is. I don't care how fast your carbon-kevlar speedboat is. Somewhere in the Mediterranean, a man wearing Persol sunglasses is at the helm of one of these, and as long as that's true, you've lost.

Most beautiful boat ever.. fun fact about the Aquarama, the president of Riva used to tell potential buyers that if they could tip it over, they could have it.. Never happened.

Oh, anyone have the link for the guy who built his own submarine?

Preoptopus
Aug 25, 2008


InitialDave posted:

The Riva Aquarama:



I don't care how big or expensive your yacht is. I don't care how fast your carbon-kevlar speedboat is. Somewhere in the Mediterranean, a man wearing Persol sunglasses is at the helm of one of these, and as long as that's true, you've lost.
you missed the part about the hot italian broad sitting topless to your right.

Content:
If were talking concepts, I always thought having this, in black, would just scare the hell out of everybody.



Edit: Woops!

Preoptopus fucked around with this message at Mar 13, 2010 around 00:10

sandoz
Jan 29, 2009


skinner posted:

Not sure of the engine model of these, but it's just one engine per shaft so there's three props at the stern. I haven't spent too much time in the engine room, though.

Ah the Shelter Island boats are double enders. How long is that run?

helno
Jun 19, 2003
hmm now were did I leave that plane

Why is it that all yachting magazines should just be renamed CGI boat magazine? Do any of these things ever get built?

sandoz
Jan 29, 2009


drzrma posted:

This is a Moth:



It's slowly evolved from a fairly conventional looking sailing dinghy to a minimalist speed machine. It's got only what it needs to have to be a boat, and absolutely nothing more.

They'll foil in about six knots of wind with if the driver is light and knows what they are doing, and I think the top recorded speed is in the 25 knot range. They're a little odd to be around because once they foil they're almost completely silent moving through the water, until the daggerboard hangs up on a big piece of kelp, then you get a lot of splashing and profanity.

Quite a few youtube videos, some of boats being passed like they aren't moving, and a number of demonstrations of their amazing lack of stability when standing still. Apparently they are somewhat tricky to learn to sail, and sadly there isn't really a used market for them in the US yet. Hopefully that will change soon and I'll be able to afford one, right now the cheapest new ones are in the $8-$10k range.

International Canoes are along the same lines, although instead of foil centerboards, they have jibs and gigantic asymmetrical spinnakers.

cubicle gangster
Jun 26, 2005

magda, make the tea


helno posted:

Why is it that all yachting magazines should just be renamed CGI boat magazine? Do any of these things ever get built?

This is kind of off topic, but I work in CG and I'm friends with a freelancer who went nautical about two years ago. From all accounts, theres so much loving work out there he cant cope with it and is having to turn down clients regularly.

sandoz
Jan 29, 2009


cubicle gangster posted:

This is kind of off topic, but I work in CG and I'm friends with a freelancer who went nautical about two years ago. From all accounts, theres so much loving work out there he cant cope with it and is having to turn down clients regularly.

I'm a little envious of the guys who get to make pretty renderings like that. All the modeling work I do just gets turned into construction drawings.

Hypnolobster
Apr 12, 2007

What this sausage party needs is a big dollop of ketchup! Too bad I didn't make any.


Alright, I've been spending a solid 15 minutes trying to understand the apparent windspeed/low drag boat exceeding the speed of the wind thing.

What I really need is a video of James May explaining it.

Niacin
Mar 8, 2005
not so much

Lord Yod posted:

The America's Cup is back in America, and this is the boat that won it:
[timg]http://img.waffleimages.com/

Not to be rude, but are you sure it was the boat and not the lawyers that won back the Cup?

Lt. Jebus
Sep 9, 2001

You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought...

ApathyGifted posted:

Anyone remember the Wallypower 118? It looked like a Bond villian's stealth yacht, and the 118 stood for the length... 118 feet.

The Wallypower 118 is probably my favorite currently existing Yacht. Its pretty much completely useless, as it costs as much as much larger Yachts, has very lovely endurance, is too small for long trips but too big to be practically used as a day boat, sucks down fuel like crazy, requires at least one if not two specially trained Marine Gas Turbine specialists on every trip, and loses a ton of interior space to the engine room. Wally has only made the one and in seven years on the market no one has bought it.

That said its absolutely gorgeous and looks like nothing else out there. If I won the lottery and then somehow won even more money it would be the Yacht I'd buy.






I'm also somewhat partial to this class since I'm an officer on them:

cubicle gangster
Jun 26, 2005

magda, make the tea


sandoz posted:

I'm a little envious of the guys who get to make pretty renderings like that. All the modeling work I do just gets turned into construction drawings.

You dont have pm's, but post in cc and start making pretty renderings.

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Advent Horizon
Jan 17, 2003

I love Alaska. The only people Natives beat are their wives.

You guys are all way over my league. Even if I won the lottery, I'd just want a 26 Tollycraft

As of right now, we're aspiring towards an Arima Sea Chaser 17 footer. Though, if my dad's best friend's widow ends up asking any sane number on his Striper, we'll probably jump on it.

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