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E.Nigma
Apr 25, 2008



E.Nigma fucked around with this message at May 4, 2013 around 03:24

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folgore
Jun 30, 2006

nice tut

I'm kind of wary about them adding stat tracking and a ranking system, but on the other hand I really like Tripwire and I'm glad they're trying something new. Have they hinted a release date yet?

Pr0phecy
Apr 3, 2006


gently caress. Yes.

E.Nigma
Apr 25, 2008



folgore posted:

Have they hinted a release date yet?

Not too soon, not too far. I would expect a release in October or November at the latest.

Also can a mod change the thread icon to "Games" please and correct the title because I am retarded.

E.Nigma fucked around with this message at Mar 19, 2010 around 03:58

Mr. Peepers
Mar 11, 2005

That noise?

...That's Coyote's laughter.


folgore posted:

I'm kind of wary about them adding stat tracking and a ranking system, but on the other hand I really like Tripwire and I'm glad they're trying something new. Have they hinted a release date yet?

Something new would be something not set in the WWII eastern front. Can we get an RO-style game in a new setting, please? Maybe next game?

Having said that, and after reading the article, I really, really like what they're saying. RO:OST and KF and shown me that Tripwire actually understands what makes multiplayer games fun to play. I like that they're thinking about realistic details such as peripheral vision, and I REALLY like that they're able and willing to take as much time as they need to make the best game they can.

Yeah, I'm a slobbering Tripwire fanboy, but they haven't steered me wrong yet.

Captain Beans
Aug 5, 2004

Whar be the beans?

Some of the things didn't sound like stuff I would want in my RO :oldman: but I really trust Tripwire to make a solid, fun, intense multiplayer game.

The hero ranking poo poo especially put me off. Maybe if they do it in a way where there are limits on these 'bad rear end' dudes instead of everyone just ranking up like in CoD:MW2 it would be pretty inspiring for your team to know you have some loving super gamer on your side. I'm sure it could work the other way around as well. Now that ROOST is old and the community is smaller, I've definitely looked at the scoreboard and seen a few names that make me think, "gently caress *name* is there sniper/tank".

The linked battles idea sounds pretty bad rear end, and I'm hoping the voice chat is improved in a squad type BF2 system. Have they said anything about the player size they are shooting for? I'd be a little disappointed if it was less than the current 50.

I'm just really glad Tripwire won that UT2004 contest to get their ball rolling. Even if Air Buccaneers was the best mod of all time.

GoldenNugget
Mar 27, 2008



I'm hoping for this to be good. I like the first person cover system and how they have freeaim with irons. And better setting of bipods on terrain geometry. Hopefully the hero system won't be stupid.

Det_no
Oct 24, 2003


Captain Beans posted:


The hero ranking poo poo especially put me off. Maybe if they do it in a way where there are limits on these 'bad rear end' dudes instead of everyone just ranking up like in CoD:MW2 it would be pretty inspiring for your team to know you have some loving super gamer on your side. I'm sure it could work the other way around as well. Now that ROOST is old and the community is smaller, I've definitely looked at the scoreboard and seen a few names that make me think, "gently caress *name* is there sniper/tank".


I'm thinking "Hero" will probably be a class of sorts limited to the first pick AND dudes with the highest ranking on the server or something. That seems like a pretty sensible way to implement it.

Roumba
Jun 29, 2005

by T. Finninho


I'd love it if they would just make the hero stuff something like: your guy gets an ear necklace or skulls/killscores on his helmet, or when in tanks, you get more bushes or cool poo poo on it. Better yet, make the "super-dude's" bullet ricochets and whizzes just slightly different than others so you know xX-Va$i1i Z4ie7ev-Xx is shooting at you. Asthetic things would be cool, everyone likes trench-coats.

Another cool aspect, perhaps your taunts and commands are voiced by Jürgen Prochnow, Putin himself or someone cool if you are the top bastard on the team, and by some pants-pissing schoolboy when you are a simple private.

Ape Agitator
Feb 19, 2004

Soylent Green is Monkeys

Captain Beans posted:

I'm just really glad Tripwire won that UT2004 contest to get their ball rolling. Even if Air Buccaneers was the best mod of all time.

Air Buccaneers started with Friendly Fire defaulted to ON and essentially ensured they were dead on arrival. It was a great and original game but it needed to thrive long enough for people to understand the cooperative nature of the gameplay. But they murdered it with one boneheaded default option.

I'm pretty excited for this namely because of the interface changes they've been working on. Direct environment interaction with weapons is really the great barrier to be crossed. Since Infiltration had their first foray into weapons being more than intangible sprites I've been dying to see a game well and truly make it work. I mean, one of the big reasons there's so much variation in weaponry is because of how and where you'd use it. People go room clearing carrying around sniper rifles and big old BARs because why not. It's not like you'd need a carbine or a pistol in tight corridors and spaces.

Really excited about this.

folgore
Jun 30, 2006

nice tut

Mr. Peepers posted:

Something new would be something not set in the WWII eastern front. Can we get an RO-style game in a new setting, please? Maybe next game?

Do you mean something that isn't WW2? It's an overdone setting and all, but it's sort of essential to the way RO plays. You can switch the thompson for an MP5 in Call of Duty or something but it's still the same poo poo. Transplant the base of RO to a modern scenario and it would be drastically different if they continued to account for realism and everything else.

Roumba
Jun 29, 2005

by T. Finninho


Maybe if you are top on the server, your name is on the plaques of statues on the maps. Maybe the name an objective after you next time the map is played.

Third World Reggin
May 19, 2008

drugs are bad tho


Here lies LORDDICKBUTZXXXXXXXXXXX Hero of Stalingrad.

Every rush [////]==========> objective next.

schizopol
Sep 11, 2007



those gamemodes look like worthwhile twists on tired fps staples. i can't think of any games with the countdown mode, not offhand. It sounds like it'll be a blast, as long as the system specs aren't too high.

Captain Beans
Aug 5, 2004

Whar be the beans?

You should definitely get more bushes and tracks and poo poo on your tank if you are some Hero tanker, tanks with bushes on them are awesome.

the night dad
Oct 23, 2006



I hope the Russian "Heroes" are these dudes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_...ry_%28Russia%29

Nothing more inspiring than guys in naval uniforms storming onto land.

Tim Pawlenty
Jun 3, 2006


I'm gonna get this game just based off the last one.

Aliginge
Dec 16, 2004

Ginger: The Dying Breed

Gay Black Fascist posted:

I'm gonna get this game just based off the last one.

Pretty much my sentiment exactly. Red Orchestra was just too awesome and everything I've heard so far fixes even the minor problems I had with the original.

I am going to be severely torn between this and BF:BC2 for my multiplayer gaming by the looks of things.

John Charity Spring
Nov 3, 2009

ACTIVATE THE QUEEN


Game looks amazing and I have faith that Tripwire can make something special again. Hell, the amount of love they poured into Killing Floor really elevated it above the generic shooter that it was on release.

Dominic White
Nov 1, 2005

We're marooned on a small island in an endless sea, confined to a tiny spit of sand, unable to escape.

But tonight, on this small planet, we're gonna rock civilization.

I really hole they steal their cover system wholesale from Call of Juarez 2. It was seriously clever there - no buttons involved. If you just aimed up while behind appropriate cover, you'd automatically crouch down. Lower your gun, and you'll slowly peek further and further up over the edge. It was a proper, clever, analogue cover system that worked on anything tall enough to crouch behind, and even corners.

dtkozl
Dec 17, 2001

ultima ratio regum

I just hope the tank maps are gone.

Mr. Peepers
Mar 11, 2005

That noise?

...That's Coyote's laughter.


folgore posted:

Do you mean something that isn't WW2? It's an overdone setting and all, but it's sort of essential to the way RO plays. You can switch the thompson for an MP5 in Call of Duty or something but it's still the same poo poo. Transplant the base of RO to a modern scenario and it would be drastically different if they continued to account for realism and everything else.

Warfare existed in the period between 1945 and 2010, you know. Even a game set in the Korean war in the early 50s would feature a radically different setting and just new enough technology to feel fresh again.

quote:

I just hope the tank maps are gone.

RO tank combat is unlike any other game available so while I didn't really enjoy tank-only maps, I'd hate to see the entire concept gone.

Dr. Video Games 0031
Jul 16, 2004



Mr. Peepers posted:

RO tank combat is unlike any other game available so while I didn't really enjoy tank-only maps, I'd hate to see the entire concept gone.

Yeah, there's no other game out there that really focuses on the realistic tanks where to be really effective, you need a full crew in each tank. Which is why tank maps sucked, because everyone ran off by themselves with their own tanks.

Captain Beans
Aug 5, 2004

Whar be the beans?

I'm not sure if tanks will be in the game at all, they havn't said anything about it. U3 is a monster of an engine so I don't know if they can get the player count high enough to make vehicles a possibility.

Gorilla Codpiece
Sep 13, 2007

Heidely-ho, neighbor!

Well if they have tanks they'd better have deformable terrain in too. Nothing more annoying than driving a heavy tank that gets stopped by the tiniest tree or bush like it's a brick wall.

Wipfmetz
Oct 12, 2007

Sitzen ein oder mehrere Wipfe in einer Lore, so kann man sie ueber den Rand der Lore hinausschauen sehen.

Mr. Peepers posted:

Warfare existed in the period between 1945 and 2010, you know. Even a game set in the Korean war in the early 50s would feature a radically different setting and just new enough technology to feel fresh again.
Has their actually been any FPS set in the korean war yet?

Oberleutnant
Apr 24, 2009
All you need is a good crew...


Yes. Been waiting for more news on this. Like some others I'm not too sure about the stat-tracking, leaderboards and hero development. I've played enough Battlefield to see that these features seem to draw hackers like nothing else.

E.Nigma
Apr 25, 2008



dtkozl posted:

I just hope the tank maps are gone.

If Tripwire takes their poll into account you might only see 1 tank map or maybe none. The most highly demanded maps are combined arms. 1 or 2 tanks with infantry.

http://forums.tripwireinteractive.c...&highlight=maps

E.Nigma fucked around with this message at Mar 19, 2010 around 18:38

Aliginge
Dec 16, 2004

Ginger: The Dying Breed

Captain Beans posted:

I'm not sure if tanks will be in the game at all, they havn't said anything about it. U3 is a monster of an engine so I don't know if they can get the player count high enough to make vehicles a possibility.

UE3 can support up to 64 players without breaking a sweat so I doubt that'd be a limiting factor.

Also RO without tanks would just be odd. Sure some maps were more suitable to not having vehicles but larger maps would just be odd without vehicles.

folgore
Jun 30, 2006

nice tut

Mr. Peepers posted:

Warfare existed in the period between 1945 and 2010, you know. Even a game set in the Korean war in the early 50s would feature a radically different setting and just new enough technology to feel fresh again.

no poo poo, i guess korea is about the only possible scenario that wouldn't be completely different but it's called the forgotten war for a reason

GoldenNugget
Mar 27, 2008



I hated levels with lots of tanks like Arad. The first reason was because I sucked at using tanks and the second was that tank focused maps were boring in gameplay and visuals (as in flat and open).

I do like the levels where there are a few tanks just as a support role. Infantry can take them out a lot easier but tanks can be nasty with the right amount of infantry support. Maps like these were about medium sized a felt pretty good.

folgore
Jun 30, 2006

nice tut

put in one tank map but have at least as many clown cars as tanks spawn. all is well

Gilmour73
Dec 31, 2005

I DICTATE my own dance steps!

I just heard about this game now. I played RO forever, still play it on occasion. The problem I had with the original was the AI. I usually just played offline, but the AI was so completely retarded. I hope the single player for this new game has better AI than the original.

Captain Beans
Aug 5, 2004

Whar be the beans?

^^I think they are making an actual single player campaign with story ect. The old single player was just playing the maps with (stupid)bots, I'm sure the AI will be much better.

Gorilla Codpiece posted:

Well if they have tanks they'd better have deformable terrain in too. Nothing more annoying than driving a heavy tank that gets stopped by the tiniest tree or bush like it's a brick wall.

I'm not sure that is a possibility in UE3, but the Darkest Hour mod for ROOST made a pretty good compromise. For wooden fences/some trees you could simply drive through them in a tank as if they were not there. For infantry they still would block progress. It was a little goofy but a nice improvement. I also really loved the way they made panzershrecks work, you only get 1 rocket and you load really slow by yourself. But if you have a buddy come and 'reload' you in the way you give ammo to an MG it puts the rocket in quick. It's really fun to have your little 2 man AT team sneaking around.

I never got U3, are there servers that run with 64 players?

I liked only a few of the big maps especially Berezina. It had a bunch of early war tanks so not everyone is sitting back sniping away, and plenty of halftracks. For the germans to win their plentiful armor actually has to charge forward because they can't shoot it out from long range with the russian armor. It is a big map but it has a good sense of progression as you battle your way across it. Many of the big tank maps are poo poo because all the points remain re capable which makes the map a huge merry-go-round. It is also the only map where I've seen pub server co-operation across multiple tanks and infantry.

Captain Beans fucked around with this message at Mar 19, 2010 around 22:09

John Charity Spring
Nov 3, 2009

ACTIVATE THE QUEEN


Berezina was an utterly glorious map. Easily my favourite of the community maps that got added into the game - such amazing long fields of fire for riflemen, nice combined arms stuff, the AT guns, trench clearing, all good.

Couldn't stand any of the tank-only maps though.

feraltennisprodigy
May 29, 2008

'sup


Have they mentioned anything about whether all the official MP maps will be Stalingrad only? I really hope not, since it would suck to not have any late war ones.

Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.


feraltennisprodigy posted:

Have they mentioned anything about whether all the official MP maps will be Stalingrad only? I really hope not, since it would suck to not have any late war ones.

It's better than 50 variations of Danzig and Aral.

E.Nigma
Apr 25, 2008



feraltennisprodigy posted:

Have they mentioned anything about whether all the official MP maps will be Stalingrad only? I really hope not, since it would suck to not have any late war ones.

http://www.heroesofstalingrad.com/about/

quote:

Focusing on the Battle of Stalingrad and the surrounding operations, both German and Russian, from July 1942 to February 1943

I'm sure late war weapons will be added or modded in eventually.

Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.


Radulf posted:

I'm sure late war weapons will be added or modded in eventually.

As long as we get to kill Nazis with a PPS-43 I will be happy.

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Captain Beans
Aug 5, 2004

Whar be the beans?

feraltennisprodigy posted:

Have they mentioned anything about whether all the official MP maps will be Stalingrad only? I really hope not, since it would suck to not have any late war ones.

I imagine it will cover stuff surrounding the southern armies on the eastern front because there is a huge variety of locations and types of battles that occurred. And I must be the only person who doesn't give a poo poo about having late war units, tanks especially, they are so over done. There's lots of cool goofy poo poo from the war besides loving Tigers, panthers, t34 and IS2s.

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