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PhantomZero
Sep 7, 2007


I once played in a 29th realism battle, it was on that Day of Defeat knock off that one of the guys said "yeah our mapper made this!". Also, no ironsights, crouching or going prone, was allowed. I guess it was at the end and they were trying to blow off steam and have fun after all of their "realism".

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Alain Perdrix
Dec 19, 2007

Howdy!

A few nights ago I watched someone with a 29.FkR tag whine about the swearing rules until he got banned from the 29th server. It occurred to me then that it is actually possible to be more pathetic than the 29th themselves. I mean, goddamn, their swearing rules are retarded, but I'm not going to get myself banned from the game's only 70-player server just so I can crusade for my freedom of speech in a loving computer game.

folgore
Jun 30, 2006

nice tut

No swearing rules are stupid but they're completely tolerable unless you're a big insufferable baby. The 29th's server is fine to play on, excluding the lovely maps.

Pyrion Flax
Nov 30, 2002

^What you're talking to.^


Alain Perdrix posted:

A few nights ago I watched someone with a 29.FkR tag whine about the swearing rules until he got banned from the 29th server. It occurred to me then that it is actually possible to be more pathetic than the 29th themselves. I mean, goddamn, their swearing rules are retarded, but I'm not going to get myself banned from the game's only 70-player server just so I can crusade for my freedom of speech in a loving computer game.

Which is why they win.

Alain Perdrix
Dec 19, 2007

Howdy!

I can live with it, and I wonder about the sanity of those who truly can't.

TheSteelCurtain
Aug 4, 2011

"There's a big difference between being hurt and being injured. You get hurt, you shake it off and come back the next series or the next game. I try to hurt people."


It's their server, their rules.

Gordong Dongbay
Oct 18, 2007



folgore posted:

No swearing rules are stupid but they're completely tolerable unless you're a big insufferable baby. The 29th's server is fine to play on, excluding the lovely maps.

I've never run into any problems on their server. Had an enjoyable time there. You act like an rear end in a top hat, you get treated like one. Why do I get the feeling that the majority of the goons who are bitching about it went into the server and got pissed because they were asked to quit cussing or caused a big deal over a map?

Pyrion Flax
Nov 30, 2002

^What you're talking to.^


TheSteelCurtain posted:

It's their server, their rules.


LAWLandMine posted:

I've never run into any problems on their server. Had an enjoyable time there. You act like an rear end in a top hat, you get treated like one. Why do I get the feeling that the majority of the goons who are bitching about it went into the server and got pissed because they were asked to quit cussing or caused a big deal over a map?


Hey look, two people just outed themselves as total loving morons. Either that, or members of the 29th. OH WAIT, that's the same thing! Ha! That's nice and easy ain't it.

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

Flying the friendly skies in relative safet-oh god the engine fell off


The only thing more annoying than no swearing is no talking about anything but the game. It essentially makes the TWB servers completely silent if one of them is on or is in the Webadmin interface.

blablablabla
Jun 6, 2011


Uninstalled DH after playing on the 29th. Nothing to do with swearing its just terrible map after terrible map. Each one seemed to be impossible for one side.

MilitantBlackGuy
Mar 1, 2008

motherfucker lets play cluedo

I've had no problems with the 29th either, I was expecting hitlerclan after reading the posts in here but all I got was one of those "please don't swear even though I am shooting you in the face" clans.

Gordong Dongbay
Oct 18, 2007



ted_himself posted:

Hey look, two people just outed themselves as total loving morons. Either that, or members of the 29th. OH WAIT, that's the same thing! Ha! That's nice and easy ain't it.

Yeah because having a different opinion than you makes me an idiot am I right?

Mercrom
Jul 17, 2009


ted_himself posted:

Hey look, two people just outed themselves as total loving morons. Either that, or members of the 29th. OH WAIT, that's the same thing! Ha! That's nice and easy ain't it.
Those 29th guys seem extremely lame but neckbeards getting this mad about video games take the cake.

LogisticEarth
Mar 28, 2004

Yeah pal? Well, you don't have a tongue but that don't stop me having to SHUT YOU UP!

MilitantBlackGuy posted:

I've had no problems with the 29th either, I was expecting hitlerclan after reading the posts in here but all I got was one of those "please don't swear even though I am shooting you in the face" clans.

The 29th doesn't really bother the pubbies, but are totally insane inside their clan. They don't let clan members even pick up dropped weapons they're not "qualified on" in public matches, They're forced to address their "superiors" with military protocol, etc.

PhantomZero
Sep 7, 2007


The 29th also likes to switch maps if the map they voted for didn't win "Well who's paying for the server? "

TheSteelCurtain
Aug 4, 2011

"There's a big difference between being hurt and being injured. You get hurt, you shake it off and come back the next series or the next game. I try to hurt people."


LogisticEarth posted:

The 29th doesn't really bother the pubbies, but are totally insane inside their clan. They don't let clan members even pick up dropped weapons they're not "qualified on" in public matches, They're forced to address their "superiors" with military protocol, etc.

Well if that's what a person wants to be apart of then they can join, not sure what the big deal here is. It's a realism unit, people know what they are getting into.

Bensa
Aug 21, 2007

Loyal 'til the end.

Your experience will wary with your regular playing times and the server. The later I play the more weird the 29th get, as the Americans who make up the bulk of it start playing. During euro play hours and on the euro server I've had no one mention any of the rules, while I've chatted in foreign languages and mocked people for being poo poo at the game while attending "practice" sessions.

VarXX
Oct 31, 2009
Probation
Can't post for 13 days!


Anyone willing to bet August 23rd will be the beta start date?

TheSteelCurtain
Aug 4, 2011

"There's a big difference between being hurt and being injured. You get hurt, you shake it off and come back the next series or the next game. I try to hurt people."


VarXX posted:

Anyone willing to bet August 23rd will be the beta start date?

I hope so.

MilitantBlackGuy
Mar 1, 2008

motherfucker lets play cluedo

That would make sense, I hope it's true because I want to mow down some drat krauts already :ppsh:

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Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

Flying the friendly skies in relative safet-oh god the engine fell off


PhantomZero posted:

The 29th also likes to switch maps if the map they voted for didn't win "Well who's paying for the server? "

To be fair, I did this all the time when I was a UT2004 admin. Some maps are really, really, really bad but extremely popular.

Pyrion Flax
Nov 30, 2002

^What you're talking to.^


TheSteelCurtain posted:

Well if that's what a person wants to be apart of then they can join, not sure what the big deal here is. It's a realism unit, people know what they are getting into.

Riiight but that doesn't make it any less deserving of scorn.

VarXX
Oct 31, 2009
Probation
Can't post for 13 days!


ted_himself posted:

Riiight but that doesn't make it any less deserving of scorn.

Then don't play with them? I don't see what the big deal is either.

Rocketeer Korolev
Dec 22, 2008

Jealous? No? Go frak yourself, Smoothskin...


Party Plane Jones posted:

To be fair, I did this all the time when I was a UT2004 admin. Some maps are really, really, really bad but extremely popular.

Like all those orange maps for Source games like Counter-Strike: Source and those surf maps for the same type of games. Makes you pine for de_dust and cs_office, doesn't it?

Kinda Red Orchestra related: I went to the States on the weekend and entered a outdoors-themed store. They had a bunch of guns in one section, even a little museum with some rare ones like a Luger and a 1928 Tommy gun.

I got to handle a couple of rifles that will be in Heroes of Stalingrad. The first was a Kar98K, which I think was from World War 1 since the handle that cycles the bolt-action mechanism went straight out instead of curved. The second was a Mosin Nagant M91/30. Got to cycle it a few times, neat. If I had to choose, I'd go with the Mosin Nagant.

Too bad I'm Canadian, otherwise I would have gotten that Mosin Nagant for $150.

Also hoping the beta starts on August 23rd or 24th, since the 24th is my birthday.

Literal Nazi Furry
Jan 27, 2008

Comfort food,
mixed with pills and booze.
Anything to fight,
the permanent blues.
You're going to need it all
when I'm through with you.


it's still funny regardless

Bowrrl
Mar 12, 2011


VarXX posted:

Then don't play with them? I don't see what the big deal is either.

Well that's the problem. They can be pricks but they have, community aside, probably the best server on Darkest Hour.

For the record while their general douchebaggery annoys me a bit I don't have any problems with them until they really start throwing it out there.

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

Flying the friendly skies in relative safet-oh god the engine fell off


Rocketeer Korolev posted:

Too bad I'm Canadian, otherwise I would have gotten that Mosin Nagant for $150.

That's overpriced from their low a couple of years back, you used to be able to get decent ones for about 80/90. It depends on the country of origin and year of manufacture on how much they are.

Alain Perdrix
Dec 19, 2007

Howdy!

Rocketeer Korolev posted:

Too bad I'm Canadian, otherwise I would have gotten that Mosin Nagant for $150.

FYI, it is entirely possible to get a Mosin Nagant for that price or lower if you know where to look, and I am talking about here in Canada. I've got a bunch of old milsurp bolt rifles myself, and I love shooting them. They are really my favourite kind of firearms, though I own a couple of modern guns, too.


vvv I cannot imagine paying five times the going price for any Nagant. You poor Australian bastards.

Alain Perdrix fucked around with this message at Aug 22, 2011 around 00:42

rossmum
Dec 2, 2008

Cummander ross, reporting for duty!



<--- Should be getting a 91/30 sniper soon. Importing from Canada since they are like five times the price here When I move back home to Edmonton I am going to get an SVT-40 as well.

Zasze posted:

I think the point is organized matches with objectives could be fun if the 29th weren't just huge sperging asshats.
Realism matches were fun. I remember one time on Arad we actually figured out a viable strategy (well, at least for one round of it) - we pulled our Panthers into cover behind the houses in south village, then turtled up the infantry in houses overlooking both them and the road. We let the 181TB send their tanks and infantry right into the village, then ambushed the living poo poo out of them. It ruled.

gently caress having those 29th sperglords in charge, though. Not only are they egocentric power-tripping morons, but they are tactically loving retarded. They aren't worthy of leading their school's canteen line, much less anything else.

Party Plane Jones posted:

To be fair, I did this all the time when I was a UT2004 admin. Some maps are really, really, really bad but extremely popular.
Right, except the 29th will routinely change from some of the best maps in the game to their horribly lovely DoD maps. They do not ever change the server to good maps.

LogisticEarth
Mar 28, 2004

Yeah pal? Well, you don't have a tongue but that don't stop me having to SHUT YOU UP!

Party Plane Jones posted:

That's overpriced from their low a couple of years back, you used to be able to get decent ones for about 80/90. It depends on the country of origin and year of manufacture on how much they are.

I've had good experience with J&G sales, their prices always seem reasonable and they have some of the more interesting models rotate in now and again:

http://www.jgsales.com/index.php/ri...t/cPath/209_261

If you get a Mosin, I HIGHLY recommend looking for the pre-war hex receiver ones. My understanding is their manufacture was a lot better, as the round-receiver rifles were wartime panic production, and have a lot more problems like sticky bolts and other flaws. I picked up a beautiful hex-reciever from them that turned out to be an ex-dragoon rifle from 1927 for like $80. The thing is a tack driver also.

Never, ever pay more than $150 for a mosin, even the "sniper" ones. One of my dad's friend's got shafted and paid like $800 for a "sniper mosin". It was indeed one of the ones modified for sniper/sharpshooter duty, but as you can see on J&G those only go for over $100. They sell one on there for $450, but that comes with a reproduction scope, and that is a good deal of the price.

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

Flying the friendly skies in relative safet-oh god the engine fell off


rossmum posted:

Right, except the 29th will routinely change from some of the best maps in the game to their horribly lovely DoD maps. They do not ever change the server to good maps.

Oh, well, in that case they're just dicks.

Alain Perdrix
Dec 19, 2007

Howdy!

LogisticEarth posted:

If you get a Mosin, I HIGHLY recommend looking for the pre-war hex receiver ones. My understanding is their manufacture was a lot better, as the round-receiver rifles were wartime panic production, and have a lot more problems like sticky bolts and other flaws. I picked up a beautiful hex-reciever from them that turned out to be an ex-dragoon rifle from 1927 for like $80. The thing is a tack driver also.

Shoot enough heavy ball ammo in your hex receiver Mosin, and you'll eventually get the sticky bolt, too. It's less an issue of wartime vs. peacetime production, and more a case of people shooting 180gn rounds out of a rifle intended to fire 147gn. Polishing the chamber interior can help mitigate the effect when shooting heavier ammo.

e: also, if you want a truly nice, accurate Mosin, get one of the Finnish ones. The M28 and the M39 are about the pinnacle of the Mosin design, in my opinion. You will be paying more than $150 for one, though, unless the person selling it to you is retarded or the patron saint of generosity. They have an awesome history, and most will have seen combat against the Soviets and/or Nazis. I own an M39 and hope to get an M28, but have not yet had the desire to buy the M91/30.

Alain Perdrix fucked around with this message at Aug 22, 2011 around 01:15

Fraser CDN
May 16, 2009
MORON

Ive fired all the bolt action's in RO i real life( every version of the Mosin Nagant). I find RO gets them correct and make you feel like your are actually firing them.

Alain Perdrix posted:

Shoot enough heavy ball ammo in your hex receiver Mosin, and you'll eventually get the sticky bolt, too. It's less an issue of wartime vs. peacetime production, and more a case of people shooting 180gn rounds out of a rifle intended to fire 147gn. Polishing the chamber interior can help mitigate the effect when shooting heavier ammo.

gently caress heavy ball ammo. After like the 3rd heavy ball round I was like, yea im done. Its weird when you look at the round you just fired and its split in half or has a huge crack down the side.

Fraser CDN fucked around with this message at Aug 22, 2011 around 01:36

E.Nigma
Apr 25, 2008



Which one of you is this?

http://forums.tripwireinteractive.c...ead.php?t=56668

Tab8715
May 20, 2006


That would be so incredibly awesome if the beta starts tomorrow.

Fraser CDN
May 16, 2009
MORON

I think tomorrow we will get the 24 hour notice.

Alain Perdrix
Dec 19, 2007

Howdy!

Beta access is just for those who preordered the deluxe edition, and not all preorders, correct?

Fraser CDN
May 16, 2009
MORON

Alain Perdrix posted:

Beta access is just for those who preordered the deluxe edition, and not all preorders, correct?

Correct

Tab8715
May 20, 2006


Fraser CDN posted:

Correct

Source, if so I am totally pre-ordering right away.

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Eonwe
Aug 11, 2008

Disco Lovin' Barney


Tab8715 posted:

Source, if so I am totally pre-ordering right away.

Its on the Steam store page.

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