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Casimir Radon posted:I'll bet The Turner Dairies is selling very well right now. Oh come on, you can have a perfectly fine American insurgency without rednecks seizing on an opportunity to turn it into a race war. Or maybe not.
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Which is the Jack Reacher book where a bullet literally bounces off his chest muscles? They all kind of blur into one, although they are all tremendous fun and very daft.
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Gambrinus posted:Which is the Jack Reacher book where a bullet literally bounces off his chest muscles? It doesn't bounce off it just doesn't penetrate.
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Nuclear Tourist posted:It's been maybe 5 years since I read it so the details are blurry but I'll go out on a slight limb and say yes, in any case I do remember that I really enjoyed it. His novels aren't so much military chest-pounding bravado and techno babble like Clancy is prone to but rather more subtle behind-the-scenes stuff often involving CIA, KGB and MI6. Ask your dad if you can read it! Sounds like the kind of spy fiction I want to read. I'll borrow it from him someday. 
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Phil Moscowitz posted:Not if they're insurging against a negro kenyan muslim usurper... I beg to differ... I honestly can't wait to read it.
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Soft Money 1M posted:I beg to differ...
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Casimir Radon posted:Oh boy, pundits trying their hands at writing novels again. G. Gordon Liddy's two novels, "Out of Control" and "The Monkey Handlers", are both pretty good. I liked "The Monkey Handlers" better of the two.
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Magnificent Quiver posted:On that note, are there any Red Dawn-style military novels? I feel like Tom Clancy never covered a good American insurgency. The afforementioned "Invasion" by Eric L. Harry is pretty close.
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Humbug Scoolbus posted:G. Gordon Liddy's two novels, "Out of Control" and "The Monkey Handlers", are both pretty good. I liked "The Monkey Handlers" better of the two.
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Casimir Radon posted:I turned on the tv last year and the man was trying to sell me loving gold. And his radio talk show is still full of  , but the books are still good...
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Payndz posted:So I wrote the biggest, most outrageous Indiana-Jones-meets-James Bond action-adventure I could think of, following basic Hollywood rules: There's always time for a wisecrack; The more important the villain, the nastier their demise; and Everything explodes. Everything. I'm reading "The Hunt for Atlantis" right now. So far, so good. Though, I really wish you would add <tired internet meme> into your books. Oh! And you should also <horrible nonsensical suggestion>. Dude, it's awesome we are on SA together cause I can totally feed you <yet another horrible idea> and you could, like, put it in your books and poo poo. gently caress yeah!
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Matthew Reilly's books read like something I would have concocted at age 10 given a typewriter, all the action flicks I could watch, and a never-ending supply of pixie sticks. That said, they are quite entertaining. Dale Brown is good stuff too, if only for the insane "1 bomber levels 9/10ths of some enemy military" stuff. Mindless but fun.
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CuddleChunks posted:Dude, it's awesome we are on SA together cause I can totally feed you <yet another horrible idea> and you could, like, put it in your books and poo poo. Jim Goose. *finger-gun, wink, tongue-click*
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this seems like the best place to ask this question has anyone read brad thor's "the last patriot"? if so, what is the terrible secret that militant muslims are trying to hide?
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Jan Guillou is always good. He wrote a series of ten spy novels, that are towards the beginning of the series based on things he discovered while doing research about the Swedish secret intelligence service. And he went to prison for espionage after revealing the existence of said agency. Ironically, his main source when he started writing in the eighties was former intelligence director Birger Elmér. He has also written Madame Terror, which is a techno-thriller revenge porn book about the Palestinian Navy renting a sub from the russians and destroying the Israeli navy to end the naval blockade on Gaza.
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Kemper Boyd posted:He has also written Madame Terror, which is a techno-thriller revenge porn book about the Palestinian Navy renting a sub from the russians and destroying the Israeli navy to end the naval blockade on Gaza.
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My god, Jan Guillou... that man is a piece of work. Not only was he thrown in jail for espionage, he apparently collaborated with the KGB back in the late 60's/early 70's. I honestly can't get a grasp on Guillou's political opinions, it's some sort of strange mashup of left-wing fringe lunacy and male chauvinist machismo.
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Payndz posted:Why do submarine thriller authors have such a hard-on for the Palestinians as bad guys? Patrick Robinson (ultra-right-wing British Clancy wannabe) did a whole series about HAMAS getting their hands on submarines and threatening the West, while in the real world they're armed with AKs and lovely rockets and stones, and probably couldn't give a crap about anything beyond the borders of Israel, never mind world domination. oh God, Patrick Robinson is terrible. Usually he just rages against the Chinese and Liberals. When I was 13 I thought he was awesome because submarines and Navy Seals were really neat to me back then. I tried rereading them recently and they were so bad.
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drat, where has this thread been and how didn't I see it? HUGE Cussler fan, right here. I got into his books when I was a LOT younger and have most all of them up to Valhalla Rising (though the first one I ever got was a hardcover Atlantis Found at a library sale). I'm not going to try and defend the science in them, because they're goddamned ridiculous, but every now and then I go through my collection again and it's always a treat to read. Dirk Pitt and the Oregon Files are great, sort of lukewarm on the Kurt Austin books. They're all right, but not quite as exciting--certainly not as cheesy, which is a good part of Cussler's literary charm. In fact, I think part of the problem is that despite having scenes involving motorcycle jousting in underwater laboratories, the Austin books actually take themselves more seriously. Cussler's books are best when they're halfway to self-parody. Redeye Flight fucked around with this message at 14:33 on May 10, 2010 |
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Payndz posted:Why do submarine thriller authors have such a hard-on for the Palestinians as bad guys? Patrick Robinson (ultra-right-wing British Clancy wannabe) did a whole series about HAMAS getting their hands on submarines and threatening the West, while in the real world they're armed with AKs and lovely rockets and stones, and probably couldn't give a crap about anything beyond the borders of Israel, never mind world domination. Actually, here the Palestians are the good guys. The bad guys in the novel are George W. Bush, Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld.
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Redeye Flight posted:drat, where has this thread been and how didn't I see it? Cussler is best when the  and moments start coming thick and fast and before you know it, Chinese nuclear sonic weapons are being used by the Lithuanian Nazis on Sarasota Florida to cause a rise in the price of frozen concentrated orange juice futures...
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Humbug Scoolbus posted:Cussler is best when the What book is that? I MUST HAVE IT
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IRQ posted:What book is that? I think he's still writing it otherwise I give anybody permission to use it in their next airport novel... I kinda want to read it too... 
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Humbug Scoolbus posted:I think he's still writing it otherwise I give anybody permission to use it in their next airport novel... That just looks like a mashup of Shock Wave, Flood Tide, Atlantis Found, and Valhalla Rising. Or was that the joke and my sense of humor is just thick-headed because it's late?
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Valhalla Rising, as in The New Movie by Nicholas Refn (Fear X, Pusher trilogy) about a one-eyed berzerker viking who finds and semi-conquers North America? Or just some airport techno thriller? Also, where was Jan Guillou when I was reading Clancy and hating him for the fascist, vengeful, torturing Übermensch crap when I could have been reading some good ol' leftist machismo? I can't believe I missed him until I needed to read something light in Swedish a few years ago 
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Angry Midwesterner posted:Is there any milporn fiction out there (besides in comic books) by and for liberals? The briefly mentioned Sam Bourne books could work for you. Sam Bourne is the pen-name of Guardian columnist Jonathan Freedland, i.e. he is a big lefty pinko commie cheese-eater. Or how about Stieg Larsson's Millennium trilogy? They're not quite milporn but they certainly work as airport books, albeit highly superior ones. I tore through the trilogy in a week recently; the film of Girl With A Dragon Tattoo was also very enjoyable. Larsson was a corruption-fighting journalist before his sad, untimely death (I want to read about the further adventures of Lisbeth and Mikael ) and it's fun wondering which bits of the books are written from experience. The books also pass most of my feminist tests, and Larsson makes sure his misogynist characters get their comeuppance. I'm surprised there hasn't been more about the Millennium books in TBB, to be honest...
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about. Is there any liberal-written milporn that would cater to dumb liberals and smart conservatives?
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Leovinus posted:The error that bothered me was in Die Trying, during the sniping competition. Reacher shows off by putting six bullets in a tree, and the six bullets spell out a head-sized capital B, for Beau Borken. Except that there's no way to arrange six dots into a readable approximation of the letter B, especially not the way it's described. Reacher would have to draw a line that curved in two places, with three bullets. It's not as bad as his fascination with the Steyr GB, a pistol that was never popular in the US, never used in any great numbers, yet shows up in 3 separate books including with matched silencers in one. That said, the Reacher books are pretty great. 61 Hours had a number of good twists to it, despite Child telegraphing the mystery hitman pretty badly.
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I heard someone mention Red Rabbit, and I have to say that was one of Clancy's worst books. No tension at all. Clear and Present Danger or Red Storm Rising was fantastic.
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If you want unadultered trash with lots of people getting poo poo chopped off or getting the poo poo kicked out of them by assassins and/or vikings, it's hard to beat David Gemmell Waylander is an rear end in a top hat assassin who becomes a hero and kills people with a hand cross-bow. Druss is an massive barbarian / viking that kills people with his magical axe. Skilgannon is a mix of the two who fights with twin magic swords. I can't stress how easy these are to read, how trashy they are, or how entertaining they are when you just want to sit on a plane and make time pass.
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After hearing the descriptions, I decided I couldn't resist and downloaded a sample of Andy McDermott's Hunt for Atlantis to my Kindle - but the ebook edition seems a little weird, the chapter divides are all just copies of the title page. Is it supposed to be like that, or is the full version different? Anyway, ridiculous book so far, I loved the intro blurb w/ Chase grabbing the gun and will probably pick up the full copy soon.
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Nerd Watch posted:After hearing the descriptions, I decided I couldn't resist and downloaded a sample of Andy McDermott's Hunt for Atlantis to my Kindle - but the ebook edition seems a little weird, the chapter divides are all just copies of the title page. Is it supposed to be like that, or is the full version different? From an author's point of view, that's actually one way in which ebooks will never supplant real ones. Getting a box of fresh-off-the-press hardbacks is always pretty exciting. Getting an email attachment... not so much.
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Nerd Watch posted:After hearing the descriptions, I decided I couldn't resist and downloaded a sample of Andy McDermott's Hunt for Atlantis to my Kindle - but the ebook edition seems a little weird, the chapter divides are all just copies of the title page. Is it supposed to be like that, or is the full version different? Now reading "The Tomb of Hercules".
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Payndz posted:Would it be poor form to plug my own books? Oops, too late. They definitely fall into the category of 'airport fiction', and unashamedly so. I am glad this thread was made. Yeah you will not get as much ego stroking from people for reading Tom Clancy as you would if you mentioned you were reading Faulkner, but at the end of the day the reader’s enjoyment is the only thing that should matter. And obviously you can read both. From where I am sitting I can grab a copy of either Patriot Games or Plato's Republic. And who knows, in a thousand years college students will be groaning about reading Drizzt books while their professor tells them how it is a metaphor for how society felt about racial and sexual tensions on Earth in the Pre Galactic cyborg conflict years
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Payndz posted:I'd like to say something reassuring, but as I've yet to see a Kindle version of any of my own drat books (they're not available in the UK) I can't really comment. Nobody's told me they've had any problems, though, so the full version is probably non-weird. Picked up a physical copy of your Hunt for Atlantis (original title!) from tesco the other day. #1: Awesome airport fiction. Me likey. Read it all through in one sitting because i didnt want to put it down. Girlfriend hates you because it meant I didn't sleep till 3.30 :\ #2: WHY DID YOU HAVE THE CHARACTERS SCREW AT THE END OF THE BOOK NOW IN ANY SEQUEL YOU DONT GET TO DO THE WILL THEY WONT THEY FRUSTRATED BLOKE THING I'm definitely on the lookout for the next couple though.
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Payndz book series is unironically awesome. I just started the third one and would love it if you could kill me (Adam) as a minor character in an incredibly painful and over the top way in a future volume!
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Oh, I also noticed that one of the characters (Harrison? the guy who dies horribly in the jungle is mentioned very specifically to be wearing a Red Shirt. In-crowd star trek reference?
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It looks like the post apocalyptic thread has fallen off the edge of the world, but these books are pulpy as hell and probably are available in airports, so I'll talk about them here: The newest book in Jeff Carlson's Plague series is out, and I didn't even know it was going to be a trilogy: Plague Zone  The premise of the first book, Plague Year, is that a nanotech bioweapon gets loose and kills any life except plants, bugs, and lizards all over the world. It can't survive at high altitudes, so only people who were living above x number of feet, on mountains in places like Colorado for example, are alive and struggling to survive with dwindling supplies. They can go down for short periods, but the nanotech starts to eat at them within a few hours and it makes going down for food and supplies or even crossing to other mountains very difficult. Later on the surviving governments get together and fight out a war over resources in the next book. The latest book features a new nanotech plague, that turns people into basically zombies, and so far it's pretty cool. Like I said, they are pulp, but in a good way, and quick reads. For post-apoc literature they're no Canticle for Leibowitz, Earth Abides, etc but still pretty drat good.
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