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Paragon8 posted:There again the children's adventure novels of the 50s and 60s were pretty awesome.
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Clive Cussler is no Victor Appleton II.
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Jul 20, 2010 10:46
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Come on guys, Cussler recreated The Dangerous Game with samurai robots. Cut him some slack! I sort of can't get over his ignorant racism. He's really not got the best views on Asians. I remember rereading one of the several books where the chinese or japanese are the villains and Dirk's inner monologue is annoyed at "whatever passed for music to the orientals"
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Jul 20, 2010 11:20
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Paragon8 posted:I sort of can't get over his ignorant racism. He's really not got the best views on Asians. I remember rereading one of the several books where the chinese or japanese are the villains and Dirk's inner monologue is annoyed at "whatever passed for music to the orientals"
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Jul 20, 2010 14:35
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To be fair that book was after 9/11 broke Clancy's brain.
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Jul 21, 2010 01:13
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IRQ posted:To be fair that book was after 9/11 broke Clancy's brain. What happened Sept 11, 1947? 
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Jul 21, 2010 10:55
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Think I'm going to grab a Clive Cussler book for a camping trip this weekend - is there any point in reading them in order, or does it matter at all?
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Jul 30, 2010 02:55
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Oodles of Wootles posted:Think I'm going to grab a Clive Cussler book for a camping trip this weekend - is there any point in reading them in order, or does it matter at all? The more recent ones are more ridiculous, I'd start with anything before Valhalla Rising to get a feel for the characters as something happens in Valhalla Rising that alters the balance of the books somewhat. I recommend Sahara, Treasure, Inca Gold Avoid Vixen 03, Mediterranean Caper, Cyclops, Pacific Vortex
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Jul 30, 2010 23:40
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I read through most of Inca Gold this weekend, and if they get more ridiculous from here, hoo boy The constant "3 meters (about 10 feet)" is pretty hilarious though. He should probably just include a table in the front of the book.
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Aug 2, 2010 16:07
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Oodles of Wootles posted:I read through most of Inca Gold this weekend, and if they get more ridiculous from here, hoo boy Inca Gold is the least ridiculous of the three I suggested. Night Probe! features Royal Marines fighting US Marines on American soil in defence of a treaty that legally transfers ownership of Canada to the United States.
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Aug 2, 2010 19:42
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Paragon8 posted:Inca Gold is the least ridiculous of the three I suggested.
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Aug 2, 2010 20:54
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Payndz posted:Wait, it actually has an exclamation mark in the title? Not even Reilly goes that far. Teehee. If you get a chance, there's three 'cussler-branded' books (The Chase, The Wrecker, The Spy). They read like the early Pitt stuff, mostly, and they don't seem to be as ridiculous as the latter stuff. Not too bad so long as you're not looking for anything which requires actual thought.
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Aug 2, 2010 21:22
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I have read every jack reacher novel and if you don't like him then you are obviously a weenie who wouldn't know "tough as nails hard rear end motherfucker" if the personification of such didn't walk up to you and forcefully use you as a department store bathroom, then put on his newly purchased clothes and throw away his dirty, bloody used clothes into your anus because jack reacher doesn't wash clothes for poo poo. Id like to add Stephen Hunter novels. He writes about Bob (the nailer) Lee and his father Earl loving Swagger. Start with "Hot Springs". If the name EARL SWAGGER doesn't convince you to at least pick the book up and read the back of it, then you're at least 37% gay. ASL NIGGA fucked around with this message at 06:41 on Aug 3, 2010 |
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Aug 3, 2010 06:37
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ASL NIGGA posted:Id like to add Stephen Hunter novels. He writes about Bob (the nailer) Lee and his father Earl loving Swagger. Start with "Hot Springs". If the name EARL SWAGGER doesn't convince you to at least pick the book up and read the back of it, then you're at least 37% gay. Yeah, but when Hunter goes downhill he falls off of a loving cliff. Compare Point of Impact with I, Sniper. 
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Smiling Jack posted:Yeah, but when Hunter goes downhill he falls off of a loving cliff. Compare Point of Impact with I, Sniper. Yeah, but the first few bob the nailer books, and ALL of the EARL GODDAMNED SWAGGER books rule. Plus "Dirty White Boys" owns too
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Aug 3, 2010 07:00
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jack reacher uppercuts a dude so hard that he completely dies instantly if for some reason you don't have two hours to spare to read a book like that I don't know how you worked out your time to be that valuable
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Aug 3, 2010 20:03
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LIKE TEN DICKS posted:jack reacher uppercuts a dude so hard that he completely dies instantly if for some reason you don't have two hours to spare to read a book like that I don't know how you worked out your time to be that valuable what book is that in?
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Aug 3, 2010 21:15
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LIKE TEN DICKS posted:jack reacher uppercuts a dude so hard that he completely dies instantly if for some reason you don't have two hours to spare to read a book like that I don't know how you worked out your time to be that valuable Think it's already been brought up here, but there is also the time where he gets shot in the chest but the bullet just gets lodged in his huge pecs and doesn't do much harm.
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Aug 3, 2010 21:20
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you guys make it sound much worse when you say it like that I always found it pretty believable until people start sperging it up
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Aug 3, 2010 22:19
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Killer uppercut is in sixty one hours and I don't know what planet you come from where jack reacher is a plausible dude but his only weaknesses are literally: can't drive well, runs slow
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Aug 4, 2010 01:01
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stop ruining my immersion!!
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Aug 4, 2010 02:01
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Smiling Jack posted:Yeah, but when Hunter goes downhill he falls off of a loving cliff. Compare Point of Impact with I, Sniper. I have to give I, Sniper a pass simply because it came after the 47th Samurai. I would rather be gang raped than read that again. Also Black Light probably has the greatest scene in the history of books. E-mail: admin@rakebackresource.com / Rakeback Resource / Casino Answers! | Affiliate Bible
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LIKE TEN DICKS posted:jack reacher uppercuts a dude so hard that he completely dies instantly if for some reason you don't have two hours to spare to read a book like that I don't know how you worked out your time to be that valuable The new one has him killing a dude by straight up punching him in the chest and stopping his heart.
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Oct 25, 2010 06:01
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Atlantis Found, Trojan Odyssey and that one about Vikings with the goddamn NAUTILUS and teleportation seemed to be where Cussler hit his stride in being crazy and over the top but still fresh and absurdly original.
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sky shark posted:The new one has him killing a dude by straight up punching him in the chest and stopping his heart. IT CAN ACTUALLY HAPPEN. I WIKIPEDIA'D IT. I love reading Jack Reacher, and will never stop. John Rain is great as well. Clive Cussler is okay, the best parts are where he inserts himself into his own book. One of my favourite Cussler endings was where Dirk drives some underwater-truck to safety (over around 3 months).
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Oct 25, 2010 13:15
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The only Clive Cussler book I ever really liked was the one where he explained how some ships sank, using semi-belieavable historical fiction. I really need to re-read those because they were actually pretty interesting. My first book by Dean Koontz was The Taking. I quit half-way through and I haven't been able to read any of his books after that because that single book managed to make such a negative impression on me.
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Oct 25, 2010 13:42
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My dad recently was at a used bookstore and he found like the first fifty Deathlands. He sent them to me beacuse of my killer commute. These books are loving insanity. Mutants, guns and a post-apocalyptic USA. So lovely, but awesome to read.
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Tekopo posted:The only Clive Cussler book I ever really liked was the one where he explained how some ships sank, using semi-belieavable historical fiction. I really need to re-read those because they were actually pretty interesting. The Taking is awful. Truly awful. Compounded by a terrible ending. The whole time it was some sort of rapture. The aliens were in fact demons in a heaven/hell sort of way. Only the good people and magical dogs were left on earth afterwards. Also for no reason he reverses the ol' science sufficiently advanced will look like magic, into magic will look like super science to an advanced enough society. This is all revealed in about 3 pages when the main character writes something backwards she heard several days ago on the radio. I kind of have an abusive relationship with Koontz with me as the victim, but this book made me realize how much a victim I was and severed
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Alberta Cross posted:My dad recently was at a used bookstore and he found like the first fifty Deathlands. He sent them to me beacuse of my killer commute. These books are loving insanity. Mutants, guns and a post-apocalyptic USA. So lovely, but awesome to read. Don't forget the ladieeeeeeeees  These books are wonderfully awful.
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Unfortunately, I seem to have less and less patience with airport novels. Recently I read a really terrible one called Spartan Gold, by Clive Cussler (and someone else?). Awful characterization, cartoonishly ridiculous villain, and it really wants to start a new series, but doesn't really justify the premise. Also it's about a husband and wife team, but the guy does 95% of the heavy thinking, fighting, and "witty" quipping. Bugged the hell out of me. I wonder if I'd like Clancy anymore. I loved The Hunt for the Red October, Patriot Games, Clear and Present Danger, and The Cardinal in the Kremlin when I was in middle school.
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Spatula City posted:Unfortunately, I seem to have less and less patience with airport novels. Recently I read a really terrible one called Spartan Gold, by Clive Cussler (and someone else?). Awful characterization, cartoonishly ridiculous villain, and it really wants to start a new series, but doesn't really justify the premise. Also it's about a husband and wife team, but the guy does 95% of the heavy thinking, fighting, and "witty" quipping. Bugged the hell out of me. It still amazes me how the same man who wrote incredibly tense and gripping novels like Red October and The Sum Of All Fears could produce something as terrible as The Bear And The Dragon. I guess after the first few million dollars you stop giving a poo poo.
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Payndz posted:It still amazes me how the same man who wrote incredibly tense and gripping novels like Red October and The Sum Of All Fears could produce something as terrible as The Bear And The Dragon. I guess after the first few million dollars you stop giving a poo poo. Not to mention all the books licensed under his name. I read the HAWX book and my god is a piece of utter trash that has nothing to do at all with the game it's trying to tie in with. It was pretty much them looking for some author that was writing some modern techno-thriller and telling him to add some details so they could just publish it as a Clancy book. I really won't be touching his other game tie-in novels for Splinter Cell and Ghost Recon.
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I've actually been enjoying Cussler Corp.'s Oregon Files series. They are still packed with fresh steaming stupid, but they are fun. Also Payndz, have you gotten around to plotting your new young adult series yet?
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I used to read Brad Thor's books. Why? First, ridiculously conservative, to the point of parody Second, it had none of the boring political bullshit that Clancy goes into. It was just one gunfight and explosion after another. Third, and most importantly, his name is really Thor. Thor. How awesome is that?
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Cooked Auto posted:Not to mention all the books licensed under his name. I read the HAWX book and my god is a piece of utter trash that has nothing to do at all with the game it's trying to tie in with. The Splinter Cell novels were actually really well done, at least the first three. The Net Force series was basically my favorite thing in junior high
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Humbug Scoolbus posted:Also Payndz, have you gotten around to plotting your new young adult series yet? By which I mean, er, everything I do is planned out to the minutest detail years in advance. Of course.
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Payndz posted:Wait, my what now? Christ, I'm still trying to finalise the plot of the eighth Wilde/Chase book at the moment. Anything after that, I haven't even started thinking about. Nukes, Barbarians, Pirate Ships and a Spaceship?!
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Payndz posted:It still amazes me how the same man who wrote incredibly tense and gripping novels like Red October and The Sum Of All Fears could produce something as terrible as The Bear And The Dragon. I guess after the first few million dollars you stop giving a poo poo. How did you hang on for so long? Clancy descended into fascism years before this and should be too hard to read. No Remorse was pro-torture, pro-vigilantism and with a giant hard-on for special ops troops and the special rules of conduct that surround them. Ditto this for Rainbow Six. Debt of Honor and Executive Orders makes the case for VERY strong leaderhship in wartime and harsh action and I should have left Clancy long before that. I was plagued for some time by nausea from actually reading something on the dark side of Il Duce.
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Dickeye posted:I used to read Brad Thor's books. Why? Wikipedia posted:The Last Patriot is a thriller written by American novelist Brad Thor. It tells the story of counter-terrorism agent Scot Harvath, who attempts to uncover a revelation that could damage the standing of radical Islam. In the book's plot, the Islamic prophet Muhammad is depicted as having been assassinated by his followers to conceal a damaging secret. Centuries later, Thomas Jefferson unearths the mystery and leaves clues for future searchers to follow. OH WHAT THE gently caress?  Glenn Beck calls him the new Salman Rushdie. The man was in hiding for a decade, I think he's suffered enough. Casimir Radon fucked around with this message at 22:13 on Nov 7, 2010 |
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Casimir Radon posted:OH WHAT THE gently caress? Isn't the secret supposed to be that Muhammed was taken bodily into heaven by God, who was pissed at Muhammed for how his message had been turned into a weapon of violence, and that his followers, who cared more about power than faith, murdered him to keep this revelation a secret? I only flipped through the book when I last saw a copy at B&N, so I really only have bits and pieces of the plot.
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