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kri kri posted:Link is in the OP hurf durf I saw the download Home Server Version 1 link at the bottom of that page in the OP and thought it was for the old version and not the new one. I will refrain from saying or asking anything dumb until at least 10AM from now on.
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| # ? Oct 11, 2010 16:12 |
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Just had my WHS burn out on me - flashing blue health light of "holy poo poo nobody knows how to fix this for sure." Pulled all the drives, running chkdsk /r on the main one; the other two are just a backup and a mirror, so I just need this ONE to run. I tried to do a Server Recovery, and it just crashes out on Step Four (There was an unidentified error. Thanks, Microsoft!).
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| # ? Oct 12, 2010 03:02 |
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I think I have answered my own question... So basically I'm supposed to use these shared folder concepts (videos/music/pictures) for my files and the files get automatically split across my drives and doubled with duplication... is it going to be plausible to remove the 1TB drives in the system at some point, replace with 2TB drives and not lose any data or at least be able to safely migrate existing to new drive and pop it in or is this going to just be a pain to deal with when I fill this thing up like any other RAID or RAID-like system? Telex fucked around with this message at Oct 12, 2010 around 05:23 |
| # ? Oct 12, 2010 05:17 |
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Telex posted:I think I have answered my own question... I just did exactly what you asked a few weeks ago with zero issues. Swapped out my old 1tb and 750gb drrives with 6 new 2tb drives. Replacing disks is easy as pie. Open up your console, hit "Remove drive from pool" and the wizard walks you through the process. WHS will simply move the data off the drive for you to the remaining disks in the pool. Add the new drive, choose to add it into the storage pool, and the data will fill up the remaining space on your new drive as need be. Replacing the OS drive is a bit more involved, but can be done with no loss of data. This is also why they recommend using the largest drive in your server as the OS drive.
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| # ? Oct 12, 2010 05:37 |
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Deathlove posted:Just had my WHS burn out on me - flashing blue health light of "holy poo poo nobody knows how to fix this for sure." What exactly are you looking to accomplish? All the drives in your WHS should read as straight NTFS and have relatively the same folder structure they had on the server. If there's some critical data you're trying to get back, keep plugging in drives from your WHS externally to another computer until you find the data you're looking for.
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| # ? Oct 12, 2010 06:15 |
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Telex posted:So, what if you're a loving retard who gets to the store and says OOH COLUMBUS DAY SALE WHEEEEEE and buys 4 of them since it's $100 bucks less than buying 4 other 2GB drives? You're not alone. I just bought four 2Tb WD EARS drives that were on sale for $35 less than normal each. Fair saving. In fact it prompted me to send on the order for my whole system. I don't think the transfer rate will be so bad.
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| # ? Oct 12, 2010 06:34 |
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Transfer rate on those drives is between 40-50MB/s at best. I have seen a lot lower too. Lowest around 15MB/s possibly. I don't really understand why there are areas that are so much slower.. possibly bad areas?
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| # ? Oct 12, 2010 14:10 |
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redeyes posted:Transfer rate on those drives is between 40-50MB/s at best. I have seen a lot lower too. Lowest around 15MB/s possibly. I don't really understand why there are areas that are so much slower.. possibly bad areas? For the record (at least right now) I'm getting a sustained 60MB/s on 4x of the EARS using Si3132 PCIE cards, going from single drives on the SATA system bus. It's not bad, it's definitely something I can live with and probably I'll end up replacing my 1TB drives with them at some point in the future.
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| # ? Oct 12, 2010 15:50 |
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They're not bad drives, just remember to set the 4k jumper correctly or else you'll get horrendous performance under a XP/2003/WHS environment.
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| # ? Oct 12, 2010 16:12 |
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BorderPatrol posted:They're not bad drives, just remember to set the 4k jumper correctly or else you'll get horrendous performance under a XP/2003/WHS environment. WHS2/Vail is a 2008 Server R2 environment so I don't think that applies. I'm not using WHS1, buying it now would be a waste since i'd have to buy again when WHS2 ships. If there's a free preview release, might as well right? I assume they won't do an in-place RTM update and I'll have to re-install again when it's retail but my understanding is that my drive pools will be intact when it happens.
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| # ? Oct 12, 2010 16:50 |
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Telex posted:I assume they won't do an in-place RTM update and I'll have to re-install again when it's retail but my understanding is that my drive pools will be intact when it happens. Can anyone confirm this? I dont want to start copying data over and then have to redo it when the final version is out.
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| # ? Oct 12, 2010 20:26 |
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modeski posted:Can anyone confirm this? I dont want to start copying data over and then have to redo it when the final version is out. They didn't allow in place beta to rtm updates for win 7, vista, or server 2008. Just history of MS tells us they likely won't again.
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| # ? Oct 13, 2010 00:13 |
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They also did not allow in-place upgrades with the WHS1 either. You can guarantee that you'll have to do a server re-install. It should be fine, and allow you to keep your drive pool intact, but there's always the chance of catastrophic failure. Personally, I would not build a fully loaded home server with an RTM OS right now.
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| # ? Oct 13, 2010 02:14 |
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BorderPatrol posted:They also did not allow in-place upgrades with the WHS1 either. You're probably right, it's not worth the risk. I mean, as it is I have all the data on my current computer anyway, so it's not as if I'm losing anything by waiting a while for the retail release.
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| # ? Oct 13, 2010 19:06 |
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modeski posted:You're probably right, it's not worth the risk. I mean, as it is I have all the data on my current computer anyway, so it's not as if I'm losing anything by waiting a while for the retail release. Setup WHS1 just for the backups but leave all your data on your machine. Unless you are backing up now then yes it doesn't matter too much
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| # ? Oct 13, 2010 19:31 |
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Anyone know how the hell to get graphics drivers to install on Vail? I know, I know, servers shouldn't have desktop graphics but I have a spare card I don't see why it functionally shouldn't be possible but my old ATI HD2900pro won't be recognized and I can't force it to use the Win7 or Vista x64 drivers. Really annoying as it doesn't detect the right resolution and I hate how things look all stretchy.
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| # ? Oct 15, 2010 02:40 |
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Looking for some suggestions as a replacement for my first gen HP home server. I'm starting to run out of space and am CPU bound not being able to run playon, airvideo, web server and squeezebox server software. I don't want to spend a ton and don't need a complete powerhouse. I also prefer the form factor of my HP versus some barebones tower.
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| # ? Oct 17, 2010 22:42 |
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calcio posted:Looking for some suggestions as a replacement for my first gen HP home server. I'm starting to run out of space and am CPU bound not being able to run playon, airvideo, web server and squeezebox server software. I don't want to spend a ton and don't need a complete powerhouse. I also prefer the form factor of my HP versus some barebones tower. I would wait until the Vail HP or whatever machines come out. I hope Vail gets a solid release date soon, I am waiting to upgrade my homebuilt soon.
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| # ? Oct 17, 2010 23:35 |
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calcio posted:Looking for some suggestions as a replacement for my first gen HP home server. I'm starting to run out of space and am CPU bound not being able to run playon, airvideo, web server and squeezebox server software. I don't want to spend a ton and don't need a complete powerhouse. I also prefer the form factor of my HP versus some barebones tower. The HP EX495 uses a better dual-core processor, so it should handle your needs. If you want to build a new system, Chenbro or Fractal make a pretty rad Mini-ITX cases specifically for home-built NAS boxes in almost the same form factor as the Mediasmart. Get a AMD MiniITX board, a Low Power X2, cheap controller card, some ram and your old drives and you've got a pretty bad rear end machine that will run Vail beautifully and can handle any transcoding you need. You're starting to get close the to price of a pre-built system, but you've got way more flexibly and longevity with a custom build.
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| # ? Oct 18, 2010 00:46 |
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Anyone have issues when installing the Home Connector software while having the .NET 4 Client Profile installed too? It always throws up an error at me and uninstalling the Client Profile allows it to go through. (This is on Windows 7 Pro x64 btw.)
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| # ? Oct 18, 2010 16:36 |
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Anyone have a clue to change the time of day WHS checks/installs Windows Updates? It seems to do it at midnight. I'm usually watching stuff that's getting streamed off of WHS at midnight. This makes me unhappy.
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| # ? Oct 18, 2010 17:14 |
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Thermopyle posted:Anyone have a clue to change the time of day WHS checks/installs Windows Updates? It runs a chkdsk on the data pool at midnight.
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| # ? Oct 18, 2010 18:57 |
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Anyone have any luck getting the newest version of Zune running on WHS? I followed the old instructions to try and get it running, but it looks like that method has not worked for a while now...
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| # ? Oct 18, 2010 21:23 |
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redeyes posted:It runs a chkdsk on the data pool at midnight. Well can you change the time of that?
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| # ? Oct 18, 2010 21:30 |
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Thermopyle posted:Well can you change the time of that? You should be able to in the task scheduler. I'll double check, but that would make sense to me. Edit: looks like no. It should be changeable somewhere though, maybe the registry? Cryptic Edge fucked around with this message at Oct 18, 2010 around 23:24 |
| # ? Oct 18, 2010 23:21 |
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BorderPatrol posted:The HP EX495 uses a better dual-core processor, so it should handle your needs. Why AMD ITX and not Intel? How do they compare in terms of power requirements, heat and performance?
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| # ? Oct 18, 2010 23:42 |
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calcio posted:Thanks for the information and links! Very helpful and starting to price out a replacement server. AMD are usually cheaper, but performance is usually lacking. Most people putting them together are trying to for price. Personally I'd go with a core i5 with this board and 8 gigs of ram using this case Thats what I'm planning to do to replace my current one at least, to prep for vail/be able to encode HD properly from the media server (atom processors just don't cut it)
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| # ? Oct 19, 2010 00:07 |
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Cryptic Edge posted:AMD are usually cheaper, but performance is usually lacking. Most people putting them together are trying to for price. Personally I'd go with a core i5 with this board and 8 gigs of ram using this case
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| # ? Oct 19, 2010 00:15 |
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calcio posted:Thanks for the alternate ideas. As for the case it'll be living in a closet so I care less about look and will probably go for the original cheaper one up above. I'll take a look more at that board but really don't need wifi on my home server so the added cost is just a waste. I don't need the wifi on it either, but the board at that site is cheaper than the no wifi version on newegg oddly enough. That site doesn't have the no wifi version either. The case has space for 6 drives as compared to the others 4, and you can also have an additional 2.5 in there near the fan mounting spot (giving you 7 internal, but you'd need an add in card for the extra drive with that board)
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| # ? Oct 19, 2010 00:42 |
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7 drives?! are you planning on downloading all of Netflix. I'm planning on starting with 2 x 2TB drives which should be plenty space for quite a while.
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| # ? Oct 19, 2010 00:54 |
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calcio posted:7 drives?! are you planning on downloading all of Netflix. I'm planning on starting with 2 x 2TB drives which should be plenty space for quite a while. My current has 5 2 tb drives, its over half full. I'm not going straight to 7 drives of course, but I'll eventually need it. My main concern is switching from an atom processor to a quad core i5 and migrating my movie collection so I can play the HD content without issue as the atom just cant keep up if demigratior starts during any point of it (and face it, its WHS, it starts all the time). Plus if vail works well in a VM, I can make it a VM host with 50% dedicated to vail (for HD streaming) and the rest as shareable resources under ESXI. Giving all but 1 drive to vail of course, so in the end its only a single drive increase over the current unless I use esata drives too.
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| # ? Oct 19, 2010 00:59 |
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calcio posted:7 drives?! are you planning on downloading all of Netflix. I'm planning on starting with 2 x 2TB drives which should be plenty space for quite a while. I have 9 drives and 5TB worth of data so far. My main problem is how the hell do I back the data up in case Vail makes me wipe everything going to the release version.
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| # ? Oct 19, 2010 01:17 |
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Telex posted:I have 9 drives and 5TB worth of data so far. Sad thing is, you likely don't. That's probably why I'll keep my acer, as a backup device for the vail one. Use something to image it onto there. I do have a copy of acronis server with all add ins, that should work for it to do snapshots.
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| # ? Oct 19, 2010 01:20 |
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I'm interested in getting into the WHS world soon. I've already bought my drives (2x 2TB Caviar Green, 2x 1.5TB Caviar Green) and RAM (2GB DDR-800). I'm interested in power savings as this thing will be running 24/7. Mostly I'm interested in backing up our families 2 desktops and 2 laptops, as well as streaming media to several devices (2 360s, PS3, XBMC, obviously not all at once). Does anyone have any experience running low-power option processor/mobo combos? Specifically I'm looking at this model of intel board with a d510 processor, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...N82E16813121399 Input would be great. I don't want to take the leap of purchasing and then regret it.
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| # ? Oct 19, 2010 01:49 |
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calcio posted:Why AMD ITX and not Intel? How do they compare in terms of power requirements, heat and performance?
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| # ? Oct 19, 2010 09:24 |
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Any recommendations for a good webserver to use on WHS? I tried installing XAMPP but it wouldn't let me change the port number apache is using so I couldn't get anything to work. I even edited the http.conf file manually and it still wouldn't work. I'm trying to get this working eventually, if it matters.
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| # ? Oct 19, 2010 15:48 |
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skattered posted:I'm interested in getting into the WHS world soon. I've already bought my drives (2x 2TB Caviar Green, 2x 1.5TB Caviar Green) and RAM (2GB DDR-800). I'm interested in power savings as this thing will be running 24/7. I wouldn't worry about it too much. My WHS is a Core 2 Quad, with 4GB and 10 hard drives (well, it's 14 hard drives now, but at the time I took measurements it was 10, IIRC) and according to my Kill-A-Watt It cost like $5/month to run. My electricity costs 8.5 cents/KWh.
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| # ? Oct 19, 2010 21:56 |
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EC posted:Any recommendations for a good webserver to use on WHS? I tried installing XAMPP but it wouldn't let me change the port number apache is using so I couldn't get anything to work. I even edited the http.conf file manually and it still wouldn't work. Vail comes with IIS. I don't know if it'll work properly with all the PHP you'll need for that but I'd guess it should if any old IIS works.
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| # ? Oct 20, 2010 00:16 |
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Telex posted:Vail comes with IIS. I don't know if it'll work properly with all the PHP you'll need for that but I'd guess it should if any old IIS works. Regular ole WHS comes with IIS as well.
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| # ? May 23, 2013 06:50 |
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I've just started looking in to running WHS at home, and have a question about the "duplication" feature. I don't want to start a RAID debate, I just have a simple query. At the moment I have Linux installed on my home server with a RAID5 array. 4x1TB drives gives me 3TB of usable space, and it can deal with 1 drive failure. Would I be correct in saying that if I use my current setup with WHS, duplicating all my data, I'd have only 2TB of "usable" storage?
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