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Obviously Erratic posted:What's the performance like in general with this? I went from a 2.0GHz 1GB core duo box to a 512MB VM on a Core i7 (quad 2.6ghz with HT, 6GB ram total). All the drives in the WHS vm are native, so disk activity isn't affected by the other vms (3x Server 2k8 r2 and 2x linux). I haven't noticed any performance difference so far, but all I use it for is fileshares and backups - no torrenting or other processing. Even with only 512mb it still runs fine. I have an 80gb OS drive (on the IDE connector - haven't tried moving it to the SCSI connector and seeing if it still boots yet), data drives are 500gb, 1tb and 1.5tb (all on the SCSI connector). And the other VMs all run happily with the new addition also.
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Anjow posted:It's a pain in the arse logistical problem. Why not leave both 500gb drives in until you remove the 1TB?
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beuges posted:I went from a 2.0GHz 1GB core duo box to a 512MB VM on a Core i7 (quad 2.6ghz with HT, 6GB ram total). All the drives in the WHS vm are native, so disk activity isn't affected by the other vms (3x Server 2k8 r2 and 2x linux). I'm really wanting to do this, but I don't have the space to move stuff off of my WHS (or alternatively to use in the new virtualized WHS to move stuff onto). It's still quite expensive to buy 14 TB of storage. Though, now that I think about it after reading the previous several posts, I wonder if there's some method around this involving a server reinstallation...
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| # ? Jul 24, 2010 22:23 |
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A gotcha to watch out for when running WHS under Hyper-V is that if you have more than 2 storage drives, a server reinstallation would not be possible. This is because WHSv1 can only perform the tombstone import during the installation phase; however you can't load the integration components (and thus the SCSI driver) until windows is installed (so you can only use the IDE channels, of which 2/4 are taken up by the system disk and install CD).
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| # ? Jul 25, 2010 10:31 |
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What kind of UPS devices are y'all using? Now that hurricane season is here in southern LA, my power can blink in and out a couple of times a day. I want something that will be able to keep the power to it for blinks, but also automatically shut the server down after 10 minutes w/o power. I'm looking at this guy right now. Seems good?
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| # ? Jul 26, 2010 21:07 |
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EC posted:What kind of UPS devices are y'all using? Now that hurricane season is here in southern LA, my power can blink in and out a couple of times a day. I want something that will be able to keep the power to it for blinks, but also automatically shut the server down after 10 minutes w/o power. I have mine running on the 750 model of that, on west coast of Florida, dozens of power blinks a day. I have one for my WHS, game consoles and TV, and one for my real server & cable box then a 2000 watt for my desktop + 2 big rear end screens. Longest power outage was 15 minutes and it didn't drop anything during that time.
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| # ? Jul 26, 2010 21:28 |
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EC posted:What kind of UPS devices are y'all using? Now that hurricane season is here in southern LA, my power can blink in and out a couple of times a day. I want something that will be able to keep the power to it for blinks, but also automatically shut the server down after 10 minutes w/o power. Look at getting a UPS with AVR protection.
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| # ? Jul 26, 2010 23:51 |
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Cryptic Edge posted:I have mine running on the 750 model of that, on west coast of Florida, dozens of power blinks a day. I have one for my WHS, game consoles and TV, and one for my real server & cable box then a 2000 watt for my desktop + 2 big rear end screens. Longest power outage was 15 minutes and it didn't drop anything during that time. Good to know. I'm just getting one for my server now, but I'll probably get one for the HTPC, TV, receiver, and game consoles soon. Probably a much bigger one than that, which will only be supporting the server plus my router.
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Canned Insanity posted:A gotcha to watch out for when running WHS under Hyper-V is that if you have more than 2 storage drives, a server reinstallation would not be possible. You can n-lite the WHS install, just do it to the SVR2003 dir only. I just customized my WHS install DVD to include Intel ACHI drivers so I would have fast disk through the install. Also the Install CD can be copied to a USB stick for install. so that leaves another free port. Secret to the USB install is yank the USB stick out after the initial loading screen, when you see the graphical install screen first start, yank and reinsert usb drive. Presto fast install.
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I'm getting some file conflicts, for the first time since the early days of WHS. Looking at the MS page, it's telling me that the "group or resource is not in the correct state..." error means that the files no longer exist on the drive. Sure enough, if I attempt to open the files, I get errors. The files in question aren't extremely important, some random boxart for NES games, a couple of nfo files for movies, and one mp3. It's the mp3 I'm most worried about. I have duplication turned on for that share, but it doesn't look like that protects against these file conflicts. So my question: what does protect against them? For that matter, what causes them? Could it be the power outages I've experienced over the last few weeks? The boxart is part of a torrent set, so I guess it could have been writing to those files when the power kicked off. The other stuff never gets written to, though. I've deleted the files from the shared folders, and I can get everything back pretty easily, I just want to prevent it from happening again. Edit: Also, mapped network drives to WHS never seem to reconnect when the clients reboot. I always have to open them manually and then they stay fine to the next reboot. How can I get them to connect properly? EC fucked around with this message at Jul 27, 2010 around 17:01 |
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EC posted:Edit: Also, mapped network drives to WHS never seem to reconnect when the clients reboot. I always have to open them manually and then they stay fine to the next reboot. How can I get them to connect properly? I have that problem on one of my computers because (I think) for some reason the network takes a little too long on that machine to connect when it boots, so when Windows gets to the part of it's boot process where it maps network drives, it fails because there is no network. I'd look up the command line to map a network drive and set up a scheduled task to run like 1 minute after boot/login.
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Thermopyle posted:I have that problem on one of my computers because (I think) for some reason the network takes a little too long on that machine to connect when it boots, so when Windows gets to the part of it's boot process where it maps network drives, it fails because there is no network. The issue is that I'll have to delay XBMC opening up as well, which kind of kills my "press butan play movie" concept for the media center. I'll keep loving with it until I hack something together, I suppose.
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| # ? Jul 30, 2010 16:42 |
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I have an HP LX195 running the original version of WHS. How hard would it be to get Vail on there (I understand it'd have to be a clean install)? I'm looking to upgrade and start from scratch with everything new and clean, but don't necessarily know how to start with this machine.
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I'm trying to think about how I would approach setting up a Server 2008 Hyper-V install with a virtual WHS machine. I have a WHS now with 4 1.5TB drives. WHS is installed on the first 1.5TB drive (SATA-0), folder duplication is enabled for numerous shares so that data should be spread across all four drives (SATA-1 through 3). Could I disconnect drives on SATA-1 through 3, format and install Server 2008 on the drive under SATA-0, install a fresh, virtual WHS then somehow import those other three drives into the new WHS installation without losing the data? If that works, how would I then handle a situation where the install drive (SATA-0) happened to crash thereby losing the Server 2008 and WHS installations? I imagine the only backup strategy there is to export the WHS virtual machine or use an external drive? Or-- Format & install Server 2008 on SATA-0, setup a virtual WHS machine. Insert the other three drives, start the WHS virtual machine then do a Server Reinstall installation? PUBLIC TOILET fucked around with this message at Aug 5, 2010 around 19:56 |
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I have a 2TB Hitachi hard drive in my Windows Home Server that has a single bad sector. Googling didn't really help me figure out if its critical or not. Should I worry about it going bad real soon? I think it's been like that for a couple months and it shows that its reallocated. It's in an Acer Easystore with an empty HD tray not being used right now. If I do buy an extra HD can I just throw the one in the extra slot and yank out the one with the bad sector to get it RMA since its still under warranty? Would I have the option to transfer the data from bad to the new drive? RiceBurrito fucked around with this message at Aug 6, 2010 around 09:51 |
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RiceBurrito posted:I have a 2TB Hitachi hard drive in my Windows Home Server that has a single bad sector. Googling didn't really help me figure out if its critical or not. Should I worry about it going bad real soon? I think it's been like that for a couple months and it shows that its reallocated. You can probably safely ignore the bad sector but keep an eye on it and make sure it doesn't get worse. If you need to get a new drive, install it (attach it and add to pool), and then hit remove drive on the drive with the bad sector. Wait a few hours while it copies data off the HD into the pool and then remove the drive. No data loss necessary.
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Can you install software on the HP Mediasmart EX490 remotely? This is a stupid question, but I want uTorrent and SABnzbd. Can I do that easily, or does it require some finagling? Can I access them via another computer outside of the network?
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mrmonkeyman posted:Can you install software on the HP Mediasmart EX490 remotely? This is a stupid question, but I want uTorrent and SABnzbd. Can I do that easily, or does it require some finagling? Can I access them via another computer outside of the network? just remote desktop into the server and you get a full windows desktop
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| # ? Aug 14, 2010 20:07 |
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http://www.wegotserved.com/2010/08/...server-vail-rc0 This is looking great. OSX Support is something I can't wait for as every machine bar my WHS is OSX. Media streaming via Silverlight and Email alerts without addins are massive steps forward in my opinion.
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Holy poo poo media streaming via silverlight.
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Sweet baby jesus, OSX integration is a dream to me. My I have exactly 1 PC in the house and the other 3 are Macs, so having native time machine support would be a dream. I was still on the fence about upgrading to Vail but right now everything is coming up Milhouse!
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| # ? Aug 17, 2010 03:13 |
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Also looks like there's a "Drives" tab which more or less will replace the Disk Management add-in for WHSv1 Awesome.
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kri kri posted:Holy poo poo media streaming via silverlight. In my Utopia it would also be available via Flash or h264 so that I could watch all my stuff on my Android phone (Nexus One).
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What settings should I use to get it to auto-convert things to stream to my 360? All i have is full, 720 hd, iphone and mobile. Not sure what to do and don't want to waste hours doing this for nothing. This is on the ex490. Or does it just always use a format that's good? I don't care much about the size (IE: When I'm done with it i'll probably just delete 'em.)
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I've got a custom built WHS box, and I'm thinking about changing the CPU. Right now it's a Celeron 420 @ 1.6ghz. I'm thinking about moving up to something like this: Celeron E3400. Would this gently caress up my install or anything? Any better recommendations for a CPU? I'm looking to spend $50-75.
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| # ? Aug 19, 2010 13:37 |
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I am running the first "preview" of Vail. Is there anyway to back up the server to a network drive? When I try to setup the backup it will only do internal or external drives that are not in the storage pool. Does this change with the newer build?
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| # ? Aug 19, 2010 16:47 |
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ssspy007 posted:I am running the first "preview" of Vail. Is there anyway to back up the server to a network drive? When I try to setup the backup it will only do internal or external drives that are not in the storage pool. Does this change with the newer build? I setup mine but I didn't use the Backup on the Dashboard. I had to manually go to the backup in control panel and setup it up. For some reason the backup option in dashboard doesn't work.
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| # ? Aug 19, 2010 19:42 |
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So, is there any better automated video converter for the WHS? The EX490 doesn't support .mkv - which is annoying. I want my HD stuff to stream straight to my 360.
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So those fancy new Advanced Format drives are no good for your WHS now. Source quote:You will experience performance degradation when using Advanced Format disk in your Home Server v1 for Server Backup, Storage Pool, or System Disk because the disks are formatted and aligned in a way Windows Home Server is not compatible with. So, I guess I need to figure out something to replace the WDGreen drive I've got in my server. I've been experiencing some file conflicts and the like lately. What the hell am I going to do with the advanced format drive, I have no idea. I guess stick it into the HTPC, but I'll never need that much space.
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EC posted:So those fancy new Advanced Format drives are no good for your WHS now. 4k drives have never been intended for use in XP/Server 2003 systems.
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EC posted:So those fancy new Advanced Format drives are no good for your WHS now. Isn't there a jumper on the drive you can set so that it will still work on an older OS? It'll format with a different block size so that the alignment issues don't take place I thought.
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BorderPatrol posted:4k drives have never been intended for use in XP/Server 2003 systems. I know, but I bought one by accident not knowing the difference, and now that MS article has been released specifically calling them out, I figured it was worthy to post in the thread. qutius posted:Isn't there a jumper on the drive you can set so that it will still work on an older OS? It'll format with a different block size so that the alignment issues don't take place I thought. From the article: quote:This article describes the two scenarios that can affect your installation of Windows Home Server. Some manufacturers provide alignment tools for their products; however these tools are not always compatible with the platform and technologies upon which Windows Home Server is built therefore we cannot provide support. You may consult hard disk manufacturers for their recommended solutions on adapting Advanced Format disks with various environments. Apparently they don't all work, as my recent string of file conflicts can attest.
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EC posted:I know, but I bought one by accident not knowing the difference, and now that MS article has been released specifically calling them out, I figured it was worthy to post in the thread. Actually now that I think about it, the 4k drives should have no problems as an external or secondary drive, basically as storage use. It's only when the drive is used as an OS drive that the 4k sector issues crop up with legacy OSes. What Microsoft has confirmed is that, even though the drive is part of the storage pool and not a OS boot drive, it will still introduce 4k issues into the storage pool. That is pretty interesting and something I never though about before.
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qutius posted:Isn't there a jumper on the drive you can set so that it will still work on an older OS? It'll format with a different block size so that the alignment issues don't take place I thought. The KB article talks about the alignment tool, not the jumper. I'm not sure what the difference between the two techniques is. I know that the usual advice was that you had to use the alignment tool if you wanted to use the AF drive as your system drive and the jumper for pool drives.
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BorderPatrol posted:Actually now that I think about it, the 4k drives should have no problems as an external or secondary drive, basically as storage use. It's only when the drive is used as an OS drive that the 4k sector issues crop up with legacy OSes. So if you have a 4k drive in the storage pool, and you've set the jumper to support legacy OSes, you can still have issues, correct?
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EC posted:So if you have a 4k drive in the storage pool, and you've set the jumper to support legacy OSes, you can still have issues, correct? You cannot set the jumper after the OS has been installed, it won't do anything. The jumper is to tell WinXP/2003 to use 4k block sizes when formatting and partitioning the disk.  I have no idea if the jumper would work when adding to the storage pool or not. EDIT: This site says that if you put the jumper on prior to adding the drive to the pool, you should be fine. If you have issues with a 4k drive currently installed, you should be able to remove it from the pool, add the jumper, then re-add it and be OK. FCKGW fucked around with this message at Aug 26, 2010 around 17:22 |
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I have the WD15EARS drive. Originally installed the OS on it, but killed it when I realized it was an AD drive and used a different HD. Set the jumper and used it as a a storage pool drive, and was trying to blame it for my file conflict errors. Looks like I'll have to troubleshoot some more.
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BorderPatrol posted:EDIT: This site says that if you put the jumper on prior to adding the drive to the pool, you should be fine. If you have issues with a 4k drive currently installed, you should be able to remove it from the pool, add the jumper, then re-add it and be OK. Also you can only use the these drives as a drive pool drive. When you put multiple partitions on it starts messing up the later partitions by having earlier partitions possibly copy over it. So your main OS installation needs to be a normal non 4K drive but the storage pool drives can be the advanced drive as long as you have the jumper set. At least what I have read about it.
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Just a word of advice. The newer WD Green Power drives from 1.5 to 2TB are REALLY slow in WHS. To the point that I decided to sell off all mine and go Samsung F3 drives. The difference is like night and day. My WHS flys now where before it was lagging and doing weird poo poo waiting for those green power drives. The Green Power drives used to be faster a few years back.
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redeyes posted:Just a word of advice. The newer WD Green Power drives from 1.5 to 2TB are REALLY slow in WHS. To the point that I decided to sell off all mine and go Samsung F3 drives. The difference is like night and day. My WHS flys now where before it was lagging and doing weird poo poo waiting for those green power drives. The Green Power drives used to be faster a few years back. Did you set the jumper so that they format in 4k blocks? That's the whole conversation we're having here and if you didn't then that's why your drives were slower.
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