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Scuttle_SE
Jun 2, 2005
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Hum, is it just me, or does the new striping filesystem worry anyone else?

With the current version of WHS, if a drive dies, the worst that happens is that all the files on that drive are lost. With the new version, theoretically, if one drive dies, you can loose pretty much everything.

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Scuttle_SE
Jun 2, 2005
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What's the easiest way to install WHSv1 and get your SATA-drives to use AHCI? Right now the installer won't detect any drives if I set them to AHCI. Do I have to use a floppy, or is there a way to inject drivers onto the cd?

Intel-chipped mobo...

Scuttle_SE
Jun 2, 2005
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redeyes posted:

I used Nlite and added the Intel RST drivers to the i386 folder of the WHS DVD. Worked great. You can also spend 15 bux and get a aftermarket SATA controller, use it to boot with and then flip the BIOS to ACHI and load the drivers as normal.

Alright, sounds easy enough... After writing that I came up with two more questions...

The first version o WHS used one disk as a "landing zone", meaning you had to periodically wait for the drives to balance themselves. Is that still the case? Or would I be better of using a smaller, faster disk for the system-drive?

I have today a bunch of 2TB-drives connected to a 2008-server. Some of them are WD-drives and I assume they use the new 4k sectors... will I have to reformat these drives if I connect them to WHS, or can I pull the information from them?

I was thinking of connecting maybe one or two empty drives, add those to the pool, connect a few of my full drives. Empty the full drives into the pool, then add those disk to the pool. Repeat until no more disks.

Scuttle_SE
Jun 2, 2005
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qutius posted:

As far as the whole DE fiasco, it really leaves me up in the air too. I plan on adding a video card to my box and adding a new 2 TB drive to the pool soon. At that point, I'll have the option to either continue using WHS v1 or more to a 2008 server build or something. I really like the idea of not having to manage disk space myself and having the flexibility of adding drives and sizes as I need to. Moving off of the Windows 2003 code would be great, tho.

That was my plan. I'm running on 2008 server now, but the amount of jury-rigging I have to do to merge all my disks is getting really tedious. I was planning on throwing Vail on the machine, but now that DE is gone, I guess I might as well go back to WHSv1..

Oh, does anyone have a really big WHSv1-build? Right now I have 22 drives in my 2008-server...:)

Scuttle_SE
Jun 2, 2005
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Is there any noticeable difference if I put a faster disk to use as a system disk? I was toying with the idea of gettin either a 10k rpm or SSD for the system, then fill the rest up with normal 2TB disks

Scuttle_SE
Jun 2, 2005
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(Not really sure if this is the appropriate thread, if not, mea culpa...)

I have been playing around with Greyhole for about two days now. It is bascally Drive Extender for Linux.

You set up your shares in samba, define your storage-pool with greyhole, and a daemon takes care of the rest. It does use a "landing zone" á la early WHS, but the rest seems almost identical to how WHS runs. The daemon moves the files to your pool and creates a symlink/tombstone in the shared folder.

I have so far only toyed with it small scale, but... it works. The installation was a bit finicky, and it may involving re-compiling some samba-stuff, so it's definitely not for someone who is not already fairly comfortable in Linux.

Scuttle_SE
Jun 2, 2005
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The Supermicro AOC-SASLP-MV8-card ia a PCI-e card that does more or less the same. I picked one up on ebay for about hundred bucks, and I'm planning on getting two more. Works perfectly.

You need to get two 8087-breakout-cables for it though

Scuttle_SE fucked around with this message at 13:57 on Apr 2, 2011

Scuttle_SE
Jun 2, 2005
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wolrah posted:

Anybody who has been considering other platforms should give a Linux box with Greyhole a try. In its default configuration it acts just like Windows Home Server v1's DE (and you can even use your DE drives with it untouched, though slowly through NTFS-3G) but the configuration options are immense.

It works through Samba, so just like WHS DE you have to mount the SMB share even to use it locally, but unlike WHS you can still use the disks for non-pool data and you can add data to the pool drives directly when migrating in to it (just fsck the pool after the files are copied).

I sat back and watched this project for quite some time and I'm glad I finally went for it.

I can attest for greyholes greatness. I'm running a 26 disk, 44TB pool setup with it, and it's been nothing but awesome

Scuttle_SE
Jun 2, 2005
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redeyes posted:

Holy moly that is a lot of disks. Can you give any more information about your setup, how it works, redundancy, etc?

Nothing complicated really. It started out as a WHSv1 server, but when bigger drives and newer controller cards came along and the 2003 Server base started to get really cumbersome to work with I started to look at Linux alternatives.

The motherboard is a Asus P5Q Premium with 4 gigs of ram
I have four extra controller-cards with 2, 4, 8 and 8 extra ports.
I don't do any raid, just using them as plain SATA-connectors. Any redundancy is taken care of in greyhole.

A greyhole --stats looks like this:

code:
root@server:~# greyhole --stats

Greyhole Statistics
===================

Storage Pool
                                   Total -   Used =   Free +  Trash = Possible
  /greyhole/pool/disk-01/gh-pool:  1834G -   843G =   898G +     0G =   898G
  /greyhole/pool/disk-02/gh-pool:  1834G -  1627G =   113G +     0G =   113G
  /greyhole/pool/disk-03/gh-pool:  1834G -  1630G =   110G +     0G =   110G
  /greyhole/pool/disk-04/gh-pool:  1834G -  1623G =   118G +     0G =   118G
  /greyhole/pool/disk-05/gh-pool:  1834G -  1621G =   120G +     0G =   120G
  /greyhole/pool/disk-06/gh-pool:  1375G -  1198G =   108G +     0G =   108G
  /greyhole/pool/disk-07/gh-pool:  1834G -  1625G =   115G +     0G =   115G
  /greyhole/pool/disk-08/gh-pool:  1375G -   592G =   714G +     0G =   714G
  /greyhole/pool/disk-10/gh-pool:  1375G -  1187G =   118G +     0G =   118G
  /greyhole/pool/disk-11/gh-pool:  1375G -  1197G =   108G +     0G =   108G
  /greyhole/pool/disk-12/gh-pool:  1375G -  1194G =   112G +     0G =   112G
  /greyhole/pool/disk-13/gh-pool:  1375G -  1189G =   117G +     0G =   117G
  /greyhole/pool/disk-14/gh-pool:  1834G -  1005G =   735G +     0G =   735G
  /greyhole/pool/disk-15/gh-pool:  1375G -  1187G =   119G +     0G =   119G
  /greyhole/pool/disk-16/gh-pool:  1834G -  1665G =    76G +     0G =    76G
  /greyhole/pool/disk-17/gh-pool:  1834G -  1606G =   135G +     0G =   135G
  /greyhole/pool/disk-18/gh-pool:  1834G -  1618G =   122G +     0G =   122G
  /greyhole/pool/disk-19/gh-pool:  1834G -  1009G =   732G +     0G =   732G
  /greyhole/pool/disk-20/gh-pool:  1375G -  1195G =   110G +     0G =   110G
  /greyhole/pool/disk-21/gh-pool:  1834G -   831G =   910G +     0G =   910G
  /greyhole/pool/disk-22/gh-pool:  1834G -  1665G =    75G +     0G =    75G
  /greyhole/pool/disk-23/gh-pool:  1834G -  1660G =    81G +     0G =    81G
  /greyhole/pool/disk-24/gh-pool:  1834G -  1664G =    77G +     0G =    77G
  /greyhole/pool/disk-25/gh-pool:  1375G -   735G =   571G +     0G =   571G
  /greyhole/pool/disk-26/gh-pool:  1834G -   831G =   910G +     0G =   910G
  /greyhole/pool/disk-27/gh-pool:  1834G -   831G =   910G +     0G =   910G
                                  ==========================================
  Total:                          43552G - 33027G =  8313G +     0G =  8313G
I then have a bunch of SMB-shares for video, pictures, music and whatever. If I want any of those shares duplicated, I just tell greyhole to put the files on two, or more different physical disks.

There is nothing really complicated about it. Sure, you have to know at least a little bit about Linux to get everything up and running smoothly, but once you do, there is nothing to it.

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Scuttle_SE
Jun 2, 2005
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If you need any help, pop into #greyhole on irc.freenode.net, the author, and other greyhole-users hang out there.

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