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Finished the first law trilogy, great books, took me a while to get hooked but i think I went through argument of kings in 3 days or so.
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SammyWhereAreYou posted:In case anyone's interested, here's a panel from this past weekend with Joe Abercrombie, Brandon Sanderson, Jim Butcher, Peter V. Brett, Deborah Harkness, and Naomi Novik: Wow, Sanderson is a complete dork, and a microphone hog too. No one wants to hear you talk that long.
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Nov 16, 2010 03:45
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Heroes talk here I thought the book was OK, but it was very one dimensional and I got tired of hearing Craw talk about straight edge, and the Northmen playing the stereotypical part. As well as seeing more incompetence from the Union, both of which have already been done over and over again in the other books. Someone posted an amazon review earlier in this thread, and it kind of hits the nail on the head. I think Joe could have done more with this if it was a longer period than 3 days. 3 days is not enough time to give anyone character development, except maybe Calder, but he didn't change all that much, killing Tenways, and Reachey after the battle. Too bad about Bremer too, should of stayed in the North. I'm really more interested in the Prophet and Bayaz conflict, so far we don't know anything about the Prophet, so there is some unexplored ground yet for Joe to cover.
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Feb 9, 2011 08:52
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Bizob posted:all he did was get knocked out by Shivers in that whorehouse. then he got made a scapegoat for the entire fiasco. I think that he is actually just making an excuse to make himself feel better by saying that he was made a scapegoat. Finree says that he was drunk with a whore in Sipani, and that it had happened before. He also internally monologues that he would never let himself get weak again like he did in Sipani during one of his running sessions or something.
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Feb 9, 2011 18:46
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Yadoppsi posted:I must have missed that then. I don't remember reading about any mark. I remember reading it, but for some reason I had forgotten all about Kanedias, so it didn't make any sense to me at the time either.
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Feb 25, 2011 21:12
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Some hatin of Cosca going on here, he wasn't always jaded, if you remember in BSC he taught Monza and her brother how to read. So he hasn't always been a heartless person, but during the time frame of the stories we read he is. It would be interesting to read his story from the beginning I think.
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Jan 8, 2013 06:26
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Really wanted to read the Gorst short story, Yesterday, Near a Village Called Barden. A shame it was never released in anything but 5000 hardcover books sold in England. At least we'll get to see it next year. Just a whole book of Gorst plowing through people would be fine with me.
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Oct 21, 2015 00:54
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I really loving hope we get some First Law storyline continuation. It really seems like Abercrombie is trying to avoid tackling it by doing the standalones and the young adult series. The Juvens, Kanedias, Bayaz and magi mess was what was really interesting I was kind of expecting a First Law book before 6 unrelated books released.
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Jan 21, 2016 08:46
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They are good, but you just get snippets of plot thread compared to the first three. I'm just hoping he doesn't pull a GRRM somewhere along the line as 3 mostly and 3 entirely unrelated books makes it feel like he is avoiding tackling that plot. And I feel like the reason this thread has had so little activity is because his last three books especially were a little forgettable compared to his others. Destro fucked around with this message at 09:18 on Jan 21, 2016 |
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Jan 21, 2016 09:16
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I thought the comic was decent, there just wasn't enough interest to keep it going unfortunately.
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Feb 14, 2016 17:48
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FordPRefectLL posted:its funny bc bremer dan gorst and finree both hate everyone but gorst does it in the gooniest way possible so it's awful when he does it You take that blasphemy back, Gorst owns, I could read for days about him goonily crushing everyone under his boots.
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Feb 15, 2016 23:03
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Yeah that scene did own.
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Feb 24, 2016 07:20
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Khizan posted:One thing about Logen is that all through the original trilogy, he wasn't really actually angry. Oh I think Bethod might have something to say about that
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Feb 25, 2016 07:10
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25 bucks for the hardcover man are real books expensive now, poo poo isn't even that thick.
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Apr 26, 2016 18:06
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I wonder why they even have separate covers at all, at least at initial release I would guess it would be cheaper just to go with one cover and call it good.
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May 21, 2016 22:50
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Sjonkel posted:Finished Sharp Ends recently, and really enjoyed it. My favorite story was the one told from the view of random characters involved in some of the scenes from Best served cold. Probably not the first time someone has written from that point of view, but it was clever and pretty interesting. As a guy in his thirties who read them I thought they were definitely his weakest titles. Some cool stuff, but mostly it seemed he took alot of the character personalities he made in the First Law books and put them into some of the YA characters. It wasn't nearly as interesting either and I've forgotten most of what happened didn't feel emotionally invested in anything that happened. They aren't terrible books by any stretch, they just felt like 'filler' books someone who needed a break from what he was writing would write. That said I'm looking forward to him getting back to the First Law world now as I really did like those books and read them maybe 3-4 times.
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May 31, 2016 16:16
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Grand Prize Winner posted:When's the last time he put out a SoIaF book? When's he gonna put out the next one? I think his problem is that we've all read his stuff already. Also lemoncakes. wild cards and cons bro
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Jun 2, 2016 06:08
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Tree Dude posted:I just read that mild spoiler and don't remember really any of that apart from who the "she" refers to. I think that means I can read the series again and have it feel pretty fresh. Woo for my terrible memory. It was from BSC when Yoru comes to offer Monza the backing of the bank after she took over Talins. Shenkt then told him to gently caress off.
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Dec 12, 2016 02:00
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I'm kind of jealous I wish I was reading the books for the first time. I felt the same way in that it took me over half of the book to actually get into it. You're definitely in for a ride.
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Mar 10, 2017 21:36
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King of Foolians posted:I never thought that the relatively few sex scenes Abercrombie has were all that graphic, especially considering some of the other fantasy novels out there. They always seemed more humorous than anything
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Jun 12, 2017 23:43
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ZekeNY posted:I didn't see anything that made me take that sequence at anything other than, er, face value (sorry). Same I'd have to re-read that section to be sure but I thought there was still a bandit not dead that he forgot about when he was celebrating killing 2 of them.
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Jun 28, 2017 00:00
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Totally agree I abandoned it in the 90's when I was in love with trope fantasy, Just how much filler do you need to add to make something happen?
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Feb 15, 2018 10:22
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I thought BSC was a great fast paced and fun read. I imagined the scene where Faithful Carpi gets ridden down into the river, then shouts out how he was faithful to everyone he served before getting pulled into the water wheel so vividly that it's probably my favorite moment from the book. Can't wait for the next First Law book though, its been a long time, at least Abercrombie put 3 other books in another world out during that time, but overall they were pretty overage and just left me wanting him to go back and finish the First Law books more than anything. From what I understand there will be a cast of new characters but the old ones will still be around and I'm really interested in seeing what they've been up to and can't wait for Bayaz and the Prophet to go at it.
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Apr 11, 2018 08:15
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Notahippie posted:I just reread through the books in series, and one thing that stuck out to me in doing that was Javre. No spoiler tags because none of this seems spoilery to me, but be warned. There was also the Divider in the Maker's house with one blade in the real world and one in the other or whatever, been a while since I read it.
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May 24, 2018 13:20
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:The banking conspiracy and Islamic cannibal monsters are a bit suspect storytelling devices in my opinion. What are your thoughts on the books tie-ins to real life lizard people and the Zionist agenda?
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Jun 11, 2018 23:49
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Though this is the most posts I've seen for years in this thread, usually pretty dead so that's a positive. Also can't wait for the next Law trilogy
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Jun 14, 2018 02:26
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:Coincidentally, my first crush was a horse I feel bad for the horse
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Jul 16, 2018 07:02
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Ccs posted:He just wrote a big takedown of Abercrombie’s books in the Bonfire of the Genresthread if you guys wanna read that. Nah I'll pass
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Aug 17, 2018 03:17
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Someone should read those and tell me if any are good. Please? Also self published book covers are always the best.
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Oct 5, 2018 19:22
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Don't recall that glokta was snipped. Wouldn't make sense to marry and claim the kid if he had.
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Dec 5, 2018 19:23
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Everyone would probably know if he was snipped so he wouldn't have any explanation as to how he was able to have a kid so no one would believe him if he said Ardee and Jezal's kid was his.
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spandexcajun posted:Glokta dick chat:
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ZekeNY posted:That's interesting, though. If she's Jezal's kid, will she be as generally worthless as he is? Or if she's competent and ruthless, is that a tell that she's Glokta's kid? Probably she will turn out fine, is the kid a girl? She's only going to be Jezals kid by blood, but being raised by Glokta and Ardee probably will be competent and ruthless. It's definitely Jezal and Ardees kid though since Glokta never did anything but talk to her until she was pregnant.
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Dec 7, 2018 01:16
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Think I'd like to see Bayaz and Khalul go at it for a finale to either of them. I'd also like to know more about the lore in the past that he has intentionally left vague, the Tellers of Secrets and Glustrod and all that poo poo would probably make 3 more books.
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Jun 1, 2019 05:00
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cargo cult posted:bro I'm trying to power through Name of the Wind because my cousin insisted and the main character hasn't expressed a shred of self-doubt or faithlessness a single time in 600 pages Sounds like an unreliable character to me
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Chuck Buried Treasure posted:I didn’t like Glokta but I really can’t stand the “magnificent bastard” type character—he irritates me in the same way Tyrion does. But they always seem to be the most popular characters so maybe it’s just me. In Red Country Logen made it clear part of him enjoys being the Bloody Nine. IIRC he told shy he felt relief when they got to the farm and found her family hanged, because then he knew he could go back to being what he was. Still possible that he gets possessed, but he probably doesn't fight it too hard and then feels bad afterward, and that is the nasty side of Logen. Destro fucked around with this message at 17:07 on Aug 18, 2019 |
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Did I mention I'm really looking forward to another First Law book this year. I liked BSC, The Heroes and Red Country. The young adult trilogy he did was mediocre I thought, but it's been a long time since he's continued the main story of Bayaz vs Khalul, which I want to see.
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Aug 20, 2019 23:42
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But he also did in Ladisla so it all evens out right?
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loquacius posted:Agreed with everyone that Clover's climactic scene was really well-done; it shocked and surprised me while also leaving me feeling like I should have seen it coming. Kind of retroactively affected my opinion of the character too. Been a while since I re read but I kinda remember the fire spitting as him spitting a spirit of fire or something which goes with his talking to spirits. Abercrombie maybe chose to drop those elements since magic is leaking out of the world etc..., but it was also his first book ever and probably nothing was very concrete back then. Probably he just decided that being the Bloody Nine was enough supernatural elements for Logen to have.
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loquacius posted:here lies Gorst, he never scored In the scene where Gorst and Savine were sparring Abercrombie was passing Gorst off as being weak too, until he got let off the chain. Dude lives only for fighting hopefully we get to see him go back to it.
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